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skilz
Dark Cartel
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Posted - 2008.06.11 03:04:00 -
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Can't seem to find a realistic setup! Any ideas, and what rigs? --
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LeMoose
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.06.11 03:08:00 -
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not very viable for pvp thx to low str
if u insist , use eccm and maybe also an lowslot eccm
semicondoctor memory cells would be your best choice for pvp cause they make your cap huuuuuuge and allow for better cap injecting
Caldari ships | PVP | Success | Solo
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skilz
Dark Cartel
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Posted - 2008.06.11 03:14:00 -
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Originally by: LeMoose not very viable for pvp thx to low str
if u insist , use eccm and maybe also an lowslot eccm
semicondoctor memory cells would be your best choice for pvp cause they make your cap huuuuuuge and allow for better cap injecting
After I bought it I kinda realized it looks more like a npcing ship :s --
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.06.11 03:20:00 -
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yep, get a geddon or abaddon if you want some pvp  |

Admiral Brutii
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Posted - 2008.06.11 04:08:00 -
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Marauders arent very good more PvP, the 100% bonus to dmg only makes up for the lack of additional weapons. More of a PvE boat than a PvP. You can crank out the same DPS in regular BS's, maybe not as much tank but at the same time I would rather pay for a 150 mil ship than an 850 mil ship. PvP regardless you will lose it at some point.
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Erotic Irony
0bsession
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Posted - 2008.06.11 05:47:00 -
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It is a shame the web bonus on Paladin and Kronos won't see use if you fit MWD point injector and ECCM but otherwise all four ships are profoundly awesome.
Paladin looks like it has enough grid for either dual lars or lar + 2-3 1600s and very friendly CPU for Megapulse and heatsinks on top of everything else.
I wouldn't fly one unless you have thermodynamics, solid gunnery and, at minimum, synth boosters not to mention a cargo full of ~30 cap boosters. ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
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Kay Rissa
Russian Thunder Squad Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.06.11 07:42:00 -
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Edited by: Kay Rissa on 11/06/2008 07:45:54 why would you ever want to use a ship with such a low sensor strengh ? I does less damage then a geddon, costs 10 times more and you will always be primary for jamming ships !
Also you cant fit it well for pvp, because 2 LAR t2 dont fit well with mwd and heavy injector, you need implants or PG rig. You can fit plates, but again you have 7 low slots and it's not good, Geddon has 8 lows, and also with plates you will not be using "useless for pvp" armor rep bonus.
Proud member of RTSQ
ps: i dont like to kill innocent ppl, so if i killed u, u rnt innocent
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Noelle Fay
RIMTECH NOVA GOTISCHES IMPERIUM
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Posted - 2008.06.11 10:45:00 -
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so skilz with the highest bounty in eve (7bil on his pod) asks how to pvp in a marauder? |

achoura
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Posted - 2008.06.11 11:29:00 -
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Edited by: achoura on 11/06/2008 11:30:15 3 months ago i would have said it's superb for pos killing (which it still is if fitted well) but they buffed my apoc and here we are 
EDIT: you want an uber laser sniper buy the nightmare, more hp, mroe damage, more well, more everything exept web and tractors which tach dont need. ***The EVE servers and their patches*** |

Sergeant Spot
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.11 11:35:00 -
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While one can seriously question if Marauders are good enough in pvp to justify their cost, there is a key detail to remember with them.
Use overheating.
In your high slots, fit as follows --Gun --Off line module to absorb heat --Gun --Off line module to absorb heat --Gun --Off line module to absorb heat --Gun
Also be sure to have the skills to get the best use from overheating.
Play nice while you butcher each other.
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Admiral Steiner
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Posted - 2008.06.11 11:51:00 -
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surely those extra slots could be put to use? never actually flown one just experimenting in EFT
High: 4 x Mega Beam II, 2 x Heavy Nos, 1 x Improved Cloak Med: 2 x Cap Recharger II, Sensor Booster II, Tracking Computer II Low: 2 x 1600mm Steel Plate II, 3 x Heat Sink II, LAR, DC II
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Kay Rissa
Russian Thunder Squad Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.06.11 12:08:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Steiner surely those extra slots could be put to use? never actually flown one just experimenting in EFT
High: 4 x Mega Beam II, 2 x Heavy Nos, 1 x Improved Cloak Med: 2 x Cap Recharger II, Sensor Booster II, Tracking Computer II Low: 2 x 1600mm Steel Plate II, 3 x Heat Sink II, LAR, DC II
Rigs: 2 x Ancillary Current Router
please dont fly it or at least say where you are going to fly it.
pvp ship, no mwd, no injector...beams + noses...brrr...please go and read some guides how to fit pvp ships or join some alliance so someone can teach you. I hate whiners, nerf this, nerf that. This way one day all of us we will be flying ibis-es of doom
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Princess SinR
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Posted - 2008.06.11 12:38:00 -
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Kronos is prolly the best mission option for the gallante as it has good mission fits, and can out reasonable drone dps along with excellent rail dps.
for pvp, Trimark MegaT with faction :) |

Lord WarATron
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.11 12:45:00 -
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Issue in pvp is low ecm streangth. A set of light ecm drones causes problems for a maurader and if you fit enough ECCM to avoid this, then you have lost enough slots to remove justification of using a maurader in the first place.
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Darahk J'olonar
Trans Eve Organization
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Posted - 2008.06.11 13:35:00 -
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If you want to PvP in a Paladin you can but you would be far better off with a Geddon or Abaddon. The other problem is that because the Paladin has damned near NIL for sensor strength a 1 week old nub in a griffin can perma jam you. Nifty ship but keep it running missions. |

Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.06.11 13:42:00 -
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I don't know why people bring up the low sensor strength as a major weakness. Any PVP ship, marauder or not, with ECM pointed at it will be ineffective. ECM is powerful, and PVP marauders are fun.
Paladin has other strengths that can come in handy in PVP... it's extremely resistant to cap warfare, as it can carry a crapton of cap 800s, and its dps is nice with 3 heatsinks. It's easy to make cap-sustainable, and is the easiest of the marauders to fit, gridwise. Sure, it'll get primaried, so bring lots of Paladins or other tempting targets, or just use it in a smart gang :p |

Darahk J'olonar
Trans Eve Organization
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Posted - 2008.06.11 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu I don't know why people bring up the low sensor strength as a major weakness. Any PVP ship, marauder or not, with ECM pointed at it will be ineffective. ECM is powerful, and PVP marauders are fun.
Paladin has other strengths that can come in handy in PVP... it's extremely resistant to cap warfare, as it can carry a crapton of cap 800s, and its dps is nice with 3 heatsinks. It's easy to make cap-sustainable, and is the easiest of the marauders to fit, gridwise. Sure, it'll get primaried, so bring lots of Paladins or other tempting targets, or just use it in a smart gang :p
Agreed any ship with ECM pointed at it is ineffective. My point is that the marauders sheer LACK of sensor strength makes it far more vulnerable to ANYONE who decides to jam that ship. Be it the ECM specialist in a Falcon or the guy who has been in game for one week with a griffin, that's all.
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Kay Rissa
Russian Thunder Squad Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.06.11 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu I don't know why people bring up the low sensor strength as a major weakness. Any PVP ship, marauder or not, with ECM pointed at it will be ineffective. ECM is powerful, and PVP marauders are fun.
Paladin has other strengths that can come in handy in PVP... it's extremely resistant to cap warfare, as it can carry a crapton of cap 800s, and its dps is nice with 3 heatsinks. It's easy to make cap-sustainable, and is the easiest of the marauders to fit, gridwise. Sure, it'll get primaried, so bring lots of Paladins or other tempting targets, or just use it in a smart gang :p
you are saying it is a good ship for pvp, nice damage with 3 HS and etc. Show us a nice setup, wich is better then a plated geddon with 7 Megapulses t2 !
P.S. I would like to remind you, that solo pvp in a bs sized ship is almost dead and tbh it is quite useless to rely on dual rep tank, when someone tries to blob you with 2-4k dps I hate whiners, nerf this, nerf that. This way one day all of us we will be flying ibis-es of doom
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.06.11 14:11:00 -
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I never said it was cost effective. The guy wants to PVP in a Pally though, not a boring plate Geddon, because it's fun to fly expensive things sometimes. If I were setting it up for PVP I'd go for cap rigs, 3 sinks, a single rep EANM/DCU tank, mega pulse IIs and a smartie (to beat off ecm drones) in highs, and MWD/injector/web/whatever in mids. |

Crellion
Art of War Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.06.11 14:44:00 -
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The only problem with sensor strength is if you want to use it as a solopownmobile like the faction pimp BSs were once upon a time. In a gang set up it is not half bad.
4xMega puls shooting for 8 and 4xLarge neuts with a huge cargo hold of 800s and 2xL injectors > many other set ups in pvp.
The only problem is that you can lose it and lose a lot of money but that hasnt stopped, for example, Gallente pilots upgrading from Thorax to Deimos. Yes +20% sexiness for 6x the price sounds like a raw deal but hey this is the tosser .... er player driven economy of eve. Enjoy. :) Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim. |
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