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Maitsu GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.11 23:47:00 - [1] I'm completely uncomfortable with the direction that Jade Constantine might take this game due to his past involvement in a roleplaying brothel chatroom inside EVE. http://web.archive.org/web/20040724180503/http://www.mordante.demon.co.uk/Maison.htm This is the original site for information on this. http://www.eve-chatsubo.com/viewtopic.php?t=2480&highlight=maison These are old posts showing he's clearly involved and it's not some goon conspiracy to tarnish his name. http://www.scrapheap-challenge.com/viewtopic.php?p=501920#501920 This is a post where he claims the whole thing is a goon conspiracy and denies all of it. This is not somebody I want to have represent us to CCP since he obviously is very different from your average player. On top of that he apparently likes to lie about things.
Maitsu GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.11 23:47:00 - [2] I'm completely uncomfortable with the direction that Jade Constantine might take this game due to his past involvement in a roleplaying brothel chatroom inside EVE. http://web.archive.org/web/20040724180503/http://www.mordante.demon.co.uk/Maison.htm This is the original site for information on this. http://www.eve-chatsubo.com/viewtopic.php?t=2480&highlight=maison These are old posts showing he's clearly involved and it's not some goon conspiracy to tarnish his name. http://www.scrapheap-challenge.com/viewtopic.php?p=501920#501920 This is a post where he claims the whole thing is a goon conspiracy and denies all of it. This is not somebody I want to have represent us to CCP since he obviously is very different from your average player. On top of that he apparently likes to lie about things.
Fallorn GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.11 23:50:00 - [3] Truth.
Fallorn GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.11 23:50:00 - [4] Truth.
Aprudena Gist GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.11 23:51:00 - [5] yupers.
Aprudena Gist GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.11 23:51:00 - [6] yupers.
Jade Constantine Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.06.11 23:57:00 - [7] If I had a million isk every time a goon called me a liar I'd be rich beyond the dreams of avarice. You REALLY are getting desperate.
Jade Constantine Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.06.11 23:57:00 - [8] If I had a million isk every time a goon called me a liar I'd be rich beyond the dreams of avarice. You REALLY are getting desperate.
Maitsu GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.11 23:59:00 - [9] Originally by: Jade Constantine If I had a million isk every time a goon called me a liar I'd be rich beyond the dreams of avarice. You REALLY are getting desperate. So is that not your site? Is being extremely misleading not considered a lie?
Maitsu GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.11 23:59:00 - [10] Originally by: Jade Constantine If I had a million isk every time a goon called me a liar I'd be rich beyond the dreams of avarice. You REALLY are getting desperate. So is that not your site? Is being extremely misleading not considered a lie?
Dannie Trejo	Posted - 2008.06.12 00:10:00 - [11] Originally by: Jade Constantine If I had a million isk every time a goon called me a liar I'd be rich beyond the dreams of avarice. You REALLY are getting desperate. mutes you
Anthony Pants	Posted - 2008.06.12 00:13:00 - [12] Originally by: Maitsu http://www.mordante.demon.co.uk/Maison.htm Sometimes this site advertises the e-bordello, sometimes it's that pen-and-paper RPG thing. The last time I heard of it, the Google cache (http://tinyurl.com/3zs6p4) still had the images, which meant it hadn't been fully removed I guess the site has changed recently, but it used to have Andrew's (Jade's) CV and other personal information on it. Definitely not a goon conspiracy.
Yorda Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.12 00:28:00 - [13] Can I bet isk that this will get more support than Jade's destructable outpost thread?
Fallorn GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.12 00:31:00 - [14] Originally by: Yorda Can I bet isk that this will get more support than Jade's destructable outpost thread? What doesn't.
Herschel Yamamoto Bloodmoney Incorporated	Posted - 2008.06.12 00:58:00 - [15] If I was going to complain about anybody's RP characters, I'd go after the guy who fights wars to protect and expand the territory of slavers. Fortunately, I'm not a moron. ------------------ Fix the forums!
Jade Constantine Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.06.12 01:15:00 - [16] Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto If I was going to complain about anybody's RP characters, I'd go after the guy who fights wars to protect and expand the territory of slavers. Fortunately, I'm not a moron. Should I be considering this goon threadnaught with all due respect Herschel? CSM Manifesto 2008 \| Destroy Outposts!
Herschel Yamamoto Bloodmoney Incorporated	Posted - 2008.06.12 01:17:00 - [17] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto If I was going to complain about anybody's RP characters, I'd go after the guy who fights wars to protect and expand the territory of slavers. Fortunately, I'm not a moron. Should I be considering this goon threadnaught with all due respect Herschel? I don't think I've ever advocated obvious parodies making it onto the agenda. Which of my comments are you referring to? ------------------ Fix the forums!
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.06.12 01:33:00 - [18] Scandalous!!! RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!
Aprudena Gist GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.12 01:57:00 - [19] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto If I was going to complain about anybody's RP characters, I'd go after the guy who fights wars to protect and expand the territory of slavers. Fortunately, I'm not a moron. Should I be considering this goon threadnaught with all due respect Herschel? If this was a threadnaught it would be huders nay thousands of post's long and the forums would be locked down. This is People's opinions of your life where in which they dont feel confided in your ability to make sound decisions.
Olga Mokroff	Posted - 2008.06.12 02:02:00 - [20] a space bordello. great
Pnuka GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.12 02:12:00 - [21] Is this even legal?
Martin VanBuren GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.12 02:22:00 - [22] It's actually kind of sad when you think about it :(
Kitoba Legion of Dynamic Discord	Posted - 2008.06.13 04:01:00 - [23] Guys, if you want to get rid of Jade, give CCP some information that results in a ban. Otherwise, STFU. If he's really such a Jerk he gets more attention than he deserves.
Kai Zion The Zion Accounts	Posted - 2008.06.13 05:13:00 - [24] Originally by: Maitsu http://www.eve-chatsubo.com/viewtopic.php?t=2480&highlight=maison These are old posts showing he's clearly involved and it's not some goon conspiracy to tarnish his name. God I hope you didn't read that thread, lil' goonie. I'm afraid that, struggling as you are in this epic battle for justice, you actually did.
Herschel Yamamoto Bloodmoney Incorporated	Posted - 2008.06.13 06:19:00 - [25] Originally by: Pnuka Is this even legal? E-brothels? Yeah, I'd imagine so. I even remember an article a few years back where they started tracking down the person who ran the biggest e-brothel in some other MMO (I think it was The Sims Online, or some other one in that vein) and found out she was 12 years old IRL. I don't know what came of it, but I'd wager on a lot of free publicity and some very disturbing people getting subscriptions.
Euriti SniggWaffe	Posted - 2008.06.13 06:28:00 - [26] Originally by: Jade Constantine If I had a million isk every time a goon called me a liar I'd be rich beyond the dreams of avarice. You REALLY are getting desperate. No, you are.
Herschel Yamamoto Bloodmoney Incorporated	Posted - 2008.06.13 06:30:00 - [27] Originally by: Euriti Originally by: Jade Constantine If I had a million isk every time a goon called me a liar I'd be rich beyond the dreams of avarice. You REALLY are getting desperate. No, you are. But what am I? ------------------ Fix the forums!
Euriti SniggWaffe	Posted - 2008.06.13 06:41:00 - [28] Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto Originally by: Euriti Originally by: Jade Constantine If I had a million isk every time a goon called me a liar I'd be rich beyond the dreams of avarice. You REALLY are getting desperate. No, you are. But what am I? An achura?
Herschel Yamamoto Bloodmoney Incorporated	Posted - 2008.06.13 06:44:00 - [29] Originally by: Euriti An achura? Damn, you're good at this game. ------------------ Fix the forums!
Lonak Silu GeoCorp. Paxton Federation	Posted - 2008.06.13 07:11:00 - [30] I fully support of course. Get those weirdos out of our game !
Rakshasa Taisab Sane Industries Inc. Ursa Stellar Initiative	Posted - 2008.06.13 07:14:00 - [31] Voting in support of RP space brothels.
Pax Uranus Sofa.Kingdom	Posted - 2008.06.13 07:56:00 - [32] Edited by: Pax Uranus on 13/06/2008 07:56:27 Originally by: Jade Constantine If I had a million isk every time a goon called me a liar I'd be rich beyond the dreams of avarice. You REALLY are getting desperate. Classic Jade When it finds itself caught in a lie, it dodges the issue with much haste and conviction and prays that noone notices. The best part of it all is that the dapper sycophants who lap up all of it's dissembling and nonsense end up outing themselves so that the rest of us can point and laugh. Bravo
Stahlregen GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.13 09:20:00 - [33] Oh my god, This is horrifying. Horrifyingly hilarious.
Dumah Tace GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.13 11:37:00 - [34] This is awesome. You're awesome.
Swamp Ziro GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.13 11:41:00 - [35] all my fives
Wednesday Sheffield GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.13 12:00:00 - [36] Originally by: Jade Constantine If I had a million isk every time a goon called me a liar I'd be rich beyond the dreams of avarice. You REALLY are getting desperate. And if my cat had a million isk every time someone called him a cat he would be rich too.
Asuri Kinnes Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2008.06.13 12:28:00 - [37] Originally by: Maitsu Edited by: Maitsu on 12/06/2008 00:22:59 I'm completely uncomfortable with the direction that Jade Constantine might take this game due to his past involvement in a roleplaying brothel chatroom inside EVE. http://web.archive.org/web/20040724180503/http://www.mordante.demon.co.uk/Maison.htm This is the original site for information on this. http://www.eve-chatsubo.com/viewtopic.php?t=2480&highlight=maison These are old posts showing he's clearly involved and it's not some goon conspiracy to tarnish his name. http://www.scrapheap-challenge.com/viewtopic.php?p=501920#501920 This is a post where he claims the whole thing is a goon conspiracy and denies all of it. This is not somebody I want to have represent us to CCP since he obviously is very different from your average player. On top of that he apparently likes to lie about things. Well - its good for a laugh anyway..... While I'm not into this kind of online "RP" - I don't have any doubt that CCP will not allow "the game" to go that direction... American "Talk Radio" comes to Eve-Online (yes, I'm American. No, I don't pay any attention to that drivel). This is completely unimportant to his duties as the Chair or a CSM... AK
AltBier Blue. Blue Federation	Posted - 2008.06.13 15:25:00 - [38] Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto If I was going to complain about anybody's RP characters, I'd go after the guy who fights wars to protect and expand the territory of slavers. Fortunately, I'm not a moron.
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2008.06.13 16:02:00 - [39] I don't like Jade that much after his conduct, but come on.
Fabulous Shinigamy	Posted - 2008.06.13 21:37:00 - [40] Also supporting.
Si Senior Aliastra	Posted - 2008.06.13 21:46:00 - [41] Agreed.
Windjammer	Posted - 2008.06.13 23:08:00 - [42] Originally by: Maitsu Edited by: Maitsu on 12/06/2008 00:22:59 I'm completely uncomfortable with the direction that Jade Constantine might take this game due to his past involvement in a roleplaying brothel chatroom inside EVE. This is not somebody I want to have represent us to CCP since he obviously is very different from your average player. On top of that he apparently likes to lie about things. Sooo......I'm not quite clear on what you object to here. Are you worried because you think Jade might be homosexual? Are you concerned that he might have engaged in cybersex? Do you think it's wrong of him to have a female avatar? Please explain. In addition, I don't understand what direction you think Jade might take this game due to his alleged involvement in the chat room you mentioned. I mean, assuming he can override the CSM and CCP together. Are you worried he'll turn us all into homosexuals? I have it on good authority that sexual preferences are not a disease you can catch from the toilet seat.....especially a virtual toilet seat. I'm sure your post isn't just part of a smear campaign from goonswarm. Everyone knows that would be a conspiracy theory reminiscent of the X Files televisions series. Everyone knows goonswarm is above such things. Right? Windjammer
Hori To NorCorp Security eXceed.	Posted - 2008.06.13 23:47:00 - [43] what does RP brothels have to do with aptitude in politics?
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.06.13 23:55:00 - [44] In a lot of the things the Goons do, I can at least laugh to some degree and say either "well played" or "this is funny". Sadly, this thread isn't one of those things. If you want to attack the person, at least do it about something we'd actually care about, like, say, the behaviour seen in the CSM chatlogs. _ Vote on issue of mineral and moon material balance !
Will Hunter GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.14 00:01:00 - [45] Edited by: Will Hunter on 14/06/2008 00:02:07 Originally by: Hori To what does RP brothels have to do with aptitude in politics? Ask jade, he makes a big issue out of this, telling we are the ones that made that site.
The Ubernomicon Eight year old girls	Posted - 2008.06.14 00:02:00 - [46] It has more to do with judgment. Jade has a long history of terrible judgment. This brothel being one of the more funny incidents. What makes it better is he/she continues to lie, denying he was involved. This was hosted on his server until a couple weeks ago.
Sabrina Al'Kian	Posted - 2008.06.14 00:16:00 - [47] Edited by: Sabrina Al''Kian on 14/06/2008 00:20:48 Dear lord. I'm shocked. And not in the way you'd imagine. Who gives a ***** ** about some person's RPing? And who cares if they profit from it, or make some people uncomfortable? If you don't like the content, don't go to the site. People RP all sorts of crap if given the opportunity; a ***** is probably better than a murderer (though I'm sure most RPing people in this game DO RP murderers). What's your point? Also, how does one rationalize that someone's RP can affect the way they'd take the game? Remember that he's just ONE GUY. There are nine total members. In order to do something weird to the game (like adding a space brothel?) a majority of the council members would have to agree, CCP would have to agree, AND a large proportion of the player base would have to agree. What the HELL are you afraid of?
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.06.14 00:21:00 - [48] Originally by: Sabrina Al'Kian What the HELL are you afraid of? My bet would be on cooties _ Vote on issue of mineral and moon material balance !
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2008.06.14 01:42:00 - [49] Originally by: Will Hunter Ask jade, he makes a big issue out of this, telling we are the ones that made that site. You did. You downloaded the files from my server - you registered a domain called jadeconstantine.web and rehosted my files there. You made that site at that url. That took some effort on the part of goonfleet. Maybe we should be asking why you bothered? I said on SHC it seemed like you were hosting some kind of creepy stalker tribute site since you you've used my character name to make a domain and seem to find it amazingly fascinating. And thats exactly what it is - its a celebrity stalker thing .. you must be proud Seriously. That old "la maison" site was there for what best part of 5 years? Characters listed there included Miso, DBPreacher, Lianhaun, Charity Regard, Josephine and others. They were damn famous players back in year on and the idea of a chat channel that was like the bar in Casablanca where different sides got to play ic politics while pouring drinks and flirting was always pretty big news. We used to recruit for events there, we arranged the elariel pleasure gardens security detail there - JF used to announce all its best wars there. I remember having virtual drinks with Robeyone and Halseth Durn on the eve of the GNW there and thats history. I mean not sure what I'm supposed to be embarrassed about really. Heh, I notice you goonfleet guys are completely up with a guy who likes to roleplay being a slave master of matari prisoners! Maybe its just GF are closet Goreans then? But what it really shows is just how sad goonfleet is to try to make an issue over something like this. Shows you don't have a clue about Eve history and you really don't know when your little campaigns of demonization are actually alienating you guys rather than your chosen target. Funny CSM Manifesto 2008 \| Destroy Outposts!
Lucias Trask Shadows of the Dead R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.06.14 02:15:00 - [50] Wow Goonies... just pathetic. Get back to Geminate and fight us instead of wasting time with this bull**. When I started EVE and was reading about the beginnings of the Goon/BoB war I ALMOST rooted for the Goons. After having to hear your so much for so long I obviously joined the GBC and proceeded to kill you. This is what your bull does. It alienates people who would have otherwise been sympathetic. Go back to Second Life and make it rain *s and get the hell out of EVE. JADE FOREVER!! DOWN WITH GOONIE ***ES!! [PANIC]
baalaagaa GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.14 02:42:00 - [51] With all this ducking & weaving you would have been an excellent boxer. Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Will Hunter Ask jade, he makes a big issue out of this, telling we are the ones that made that site. You did. You downloaded the files from my server - you registered a domain called jadeconstantine.web and rehosted my files there. You made that site at that url. That took some effort on the part of goonfleet. Maybe we should be asking why you bothered? I said on SHC it seemed like you were hosting some kind of creepy stalker tribute site since you you've used my character name to make a domain and seem to find it amazingly fascinating. And thats exactly what it is - its a celebrity stalker thing .. you must be proud Seriously. That old "la maison" site was there for what best part of 5 years? Characters listed there included Miso, DBPreacher, Lianhaun, Charity Regard, Josephine and others. They were damn famous players back in year on and the idea of a chat channel that was like the bar in Casablanca where different sides got to play ic politics while pouring drinks and flirting was always pretty big news. We used to recruit for events there, we arranged the elariel pleasure gardens security detail there - JF used to announce all its best wars there. I remember having virtual drinks with Robeyone and Halseth Durn on the eve of the GNW there and thats history. I mean not sure what I'm supposed to be embarrassed about really. Heh, I notice you goonfleet guys are completely up with a guy who likes to roleplay being a slave master of matari prisoners! Maybe its just GF are closet Goreans then? But what it really shows is just how sad goonfleet is to try to make an issue over something like this. Shows you don't have a clue about Eve history and you really don't know when your little campaigns of demonization are actually alienating you guys rather than your chosen target. Funny
itsan egro Nobody likes me	Posted - 2008.06.14 02:58:00 - [52] Originally by: Lucias Trask Wow Goonies... just pathetic. Get back to Geminate and fight us instead of wasting time with this bull**. When I started EVE and was reading about the beginnings of the Goon/BoB war I ALMOST rooted for the Goons. After having to hear your so much for so long I obviously joined the GBC and proceeded to kill you. This is what your bull does. It alienates people who would have otherwise been sympathetic. Go back to Second Life and make it rain *s and get the hell out of EVE. JADE FOREVER!! DOWN WITH GOONIE ***ES!! why are you so bitter?
Despina Lukas	Posted - 2008.06.14 03:48:00 - [53] I definitely agree with Jade, and that's why I voted for her! Goonies and the other big boys only play this game to grief others with combat and ruin everyone else's fun. They completely miss the finer points of EVE -- the excellent playground it is to RP our space-borne fantasies! People like me and Jade are lucky to have a game and an RP background that allows us to transcend the gender that a capricious god gave us at birth, to become the seductive, witty, politically-savvy space-temptresses that we really are on the inside! Personally I can't wait until AMBULATION, when I'll have not just a pretty portrait to go with my flirty, witty chat, but an entire (and entirely lovely!) body! Hopefully with customizable clothes (or not! ;-) ) and plenty of cute emotes. I plan to set myself up in a salon orbiting the Galente homeworld and sip space-wine while being courted by my noble suiters. What a joy it will be to play the game the way I want to play it, and not bother with all the ugly combat and rude griefers. And don't think I'm alone -- there is a reason that Jade got the most votes out of all the candidates, after all! I think that "ladies" like myself are a silent majority in EVE, and we definitely deserve to have our views represented on the council. We need a voice and a strong hand that will shape this game to meet its greatest potential for the kind of play that so many of us enjoy (need!) so much. So in conclusion, keep up the good work Jade! Shine on you crazy diamond!
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2008.06.14 04:03:00 - [54] Originally by: Despina Lukas I definitely agree with Jade, and that's why I voted for her! Goonies and the other big boys only play this game to grief others with combat and ruin everyone else's fun. They completely miss the finer points of EVE -- the excellent playground it is to RP our space-borne fantasies! People like me and Jade are lucky to have a game and an RP background that allows us to transcend the gender that a capricious god gave us at birth, to become the seductive, witty, politically-savvy space-temptresses that we really are on the inside! Personally I can't wait until AMBULATION, when I'll have not just a pretty portrait to go with my flirty, witty chat, but an entire (and entirely lovely!) body! Hopefully with customizable clothes (or not! ;-) ) and plenty of cute emotes. I plan to set myself up in a salon orbiting the Galente homeworld and sip space-wine while being courted by my noble suiters. What a joy it will be to play the game the way I want to play it, and not bother with all the ugly combat and rude griefers. And don't think I'm alone -- there is a reason that Jade got the most votes out of all the candidates, after all! I think that "ladies" like myself are a silent majority in EVE, and we definitely deserve to have our views represented on the council. We need a voice and a strong hand that will shape this game to meet its greatest potential for the kind of play that so many of us enjoy (need!) so much. So in conclusion, keep up the good work Jade! Shine on you crazy diamond! Hi Darius! CSM Manifesto 2008 \| Destroy Outposts!
Kuzya Morozov L8L8L8	Posted - 2008.06.14 04:22:00 - [55] I don't get it, there's proof but he's still saying it's false.
Darius JOHNSON	Posted - 2008.06.14 04:30:00 - [56] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Despina Lukas I definitely agree with Jade, and that's why I voted for her! Goonies and the other big boys only play this game to grief others with combat and ruin everyone else's fun. They completely miss the finer points of EVE -- the excellent playground it is to RP our space-borne fantasies! People like me and Jade are lucky to have a game and an RP background that allows us to transcend the gender that a capricious god gave us at birth, to become the seductive, witty, politically-savvy space-temptresses that we really are on the inside! Personally I can't wait until AMBULATION, when I'll have not just a pretty portrait to go with my flirty, witty chat, but an entire (and entirely lovely!) body! Hopefully with customizable clothes (or not! ;-) ) and plenty of cute emotes. I plan to set myself up in a salon orbiting the Galente homeworld and sip space-wine while being courted by my noble suiters. What a joy it will be to play the game the way I want to play it, and not bother with all the ugly combat and rude griefers. And don't think I'm alone -- there is a reason that Jade got the most votes out of all the candidates, after all! I think that "ladies" like myself are a silent majority in EVE, and we definitely deserve to have our views represented on the council. We need a voice and a strong hand that will shape this game to meet its greatest potential for the kind of play that so many of us enjoy (need!) so much. So in conclusion, keep up the good work Jade! Shine on you crazy diamond! Hi Darius! I don't use alts stupid. You obviously know nothing about my EVE HISTORY! Originally by: Jade Constantine You might be a big man on the internets Darius but prepare to be laughed at quite a lot in Europe.
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2008.06.14 04:33:00 - [57] Originally by: Darius JOHNSON I don't use alts stupid. You obviously know nothing about my EVE HISTORY! I'll give a free crow interceptor to the first person in this thread that posts why I think its your alt with relevant forum quotes CSM Manifesto 2008 \| Destroy Outposts!
OldPueblo DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.14 04:36:00 - [58] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Darius JOHNSON I don't use alts stupid. You obviously know nothing about my EVE HISTORY! I'll give a free crow interceptor to the first person in this thread that posts why I think its your alt with relevant forum quotes Step it up to a free cyber and I'll take you up on it.
Darius JOHNSON	Posted - 2008.06.14 04:39:00 - [59] Originally by: Jade Constantine I'll give a free crow interceptor to the first person in this thread that posts why I think its your alt with relevant forum quotes v0v Think all you want. It's your prerogative. I find it mildly amusing that you'd think for a second that I'd feel the need to hide behind an alt to mock you. Originally by: Jade Constantine You might be a big man on the internets Darius but prepare to be laughed at quite a lot in Europe.
Zaran Darkstar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.06.14 04:39:00 - [60] I am against the purpose of this thread. I don't see what is the problem with something that after all promotes RP. RP which is a rarity anyway. I think some people are getting too puritans as of late. I don't see anything wrong of a RPing brothel in Eve. In fact such actions add some spice to the game. If you don't like it you may very well not partecipate. If you really need a holy purpose go after the macro farmers and let the very few RPers be!
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2008.06.14 04:47:00 - [61] Originally by: Zaran Darkstar I am against the purpose of this thread. I don't see what is the problem with something that after all promotes RP. RP which is a rarity anyway. I think some people are getting too puritans as of late. I don't see anything wrong of a RPing brothel in Eve. In fact such actions add some spice to the game. If you don't like it you may very well not partecipate. If you really need a holy purpose go after the macro farmers and let the very few RPers be! It wasn't actually a brothel you know ... But the thoughts appreciated nonetheless. CSM Manifesto 2008 \| Destroy Outposts!
Artemis Rose Eleckrostatik	Posted - 2008.06.14 05:21:00 - [62] Posting to become famous! I fully support RP brothels In all honesty, I don't think it matters what Jade or any CSM has done in Eve to this point, but what they will do as a CSM.
Tress Macneille Eight year old girls GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.14 05:29:00 - [63] Y'all had better not push Jade, it looks like he's getting pretty close to tha edge
Mana Knight	Posted - 2008.06.14 05:42:00 - [64] Edited by: Mana Knight on 14/06/2008 05:41:52 Originally by: Tress Macneille Y'all had better not push Jade, it looks like he's getting pretty close At this rate, he'll hit Super Saiyan before Iceland.
Tress Macneille Eight year old girls GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.14 05:49:00 - [65] HE'S GATHERING THE SPIRITS OF EVERY WHINY, PEDANTIC, PANSEXUAL NERD INTO HIMSELF HE IS FORMING A WHINING-BOMB!
Kinkie Yuuki	Posted - 2008.06.14 06:11:00 - [66] Jade is AWESOME, glad I voted for him and would do it again.
Wurgfer	Posted - 2008.06.14 11:48:00 - [67]
JafoPBCFR	Posted - 2008.06.14 13:13:00 - [68] Asmuch as i Think Jade should step down. I honestly dont think what he does in his RP matters. And if your so shocked by a Shim being a RP SM Bordello or whatever. You really need to open your eyes more. And if you that Uncomfortable with it. Ya better get out of MMO. Not suported as its to lame. However i still Support removal of Jane from the chair for past behavior in meeting that do affect the outcome of the CSM and my representation to CCP.
Siona Windweaver	Posted - 2008.06.14 13:43:00 - [69] I agree.
Allandra Stardream	Posted - 2008.06.14 13:45:00 - [70] oh noes, cybering in an online game, what is the internet coming to!....I mean, really, it's ok to consistently and happily pod other pretend human beings whilst feeling good about yourself, but not ok to engage in this ? - everyone calls this a sandbox....
Deldrac Bat Country Aegis Militia	Posted - 2008.06.14 14:27:00 - [71] Whilst the CSM, and Jade in particular, continues with its current antics - I don't think you have to worry about CCP taking it seriously.
Mara Rinn	Posted - 2008.06.16 03:38:00 - [72] Edited by: Mara Rinn on 16/06/2008 03:38:46 Obvious ad hominem is obvious.
Arkios Odymei Incarnation of Evil Nocturnal Legion	Posted - 2008.06.16 06:37:00 - [73] Edited by: Arkios Odymei on 16/06/2008 06:39:04 Oh man, this was a funny thread! Got some good lulz out of it... Anyways, As much as I dont like Jade's actions and (some) ideas, I cant say that this should be a reason to give him the boot. RP is fine and actualy fun at times. Some people like Jade just enjoy getting deeper into it than others, heheh, thats all! ------------------------------------------------------------------
AltBier Freelance Unincorporated	Posted - 2008.06.16 08:43:00 - [74] Originally by: Maitsu On top of that he apparently likes to lie about things. Something goonfleet members would never ever do.
Ethaet Aliastra	Posted - 2008.06.16 09:19:00 - [75] RPers should not be in the CSM unless they can stop RPing for it. -------------------------------------------------------------- Seriously, we need some kind of separation between the post and signature. There you go. Now that wasn't so hard
Zafriel Acidic Reign	Posted - 2008.06.19 13:58:00 - [76] la maison - Awsome times tbh Jades rping in game both past and present has absoloutly no bearing on his input into CSM. Goons you truely are pathetic to bring this up and it does show what depths you will go to in order to get someone you dislike out of the game. Neway Go Jade! /Tenacha Khan
Tecam Hund The Buggers	Posted - 2008.06.19 14:39:00 - [77] Please do tell what someone's involvement in RP channel in a Massive Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game have to do with their ability to act as a representative in CSM. CSM, which by the way does not take the game in one or other direction in the first place, and rather servers as a communication channel between the player base and CCP, who have full authority over what direction EVE goes. Not to mention that while you believe Jade is "very different from your average player", he got more votes than any other candidate. The OP makes no sense whatsoever. Please elaborate and try to explain it in more than a one-liner because it might just take a wall of text in explanations to get this nonsense across.
telxkiskisrowr The Greater Goon GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.19 15:11:00 - [78] cyber sex seems a lesser problems than outpost destruction. enough people already voted for him. I doubt he is re-elected so whatever. Why does it take so much training to melt ice?
Princess Gally	Posted - 2008.06.19 15:14:00 - [79] Any Goon older than 12 on this topic? hum... on the whole forum then? There must be, two of them on CSM... I'll keep searching... -------------ONCOMING REVOLUTION------------ Miners united. Set your Trit prices to 8.00! --------------------------------------------
telxkiskisrowr The Greater Goon GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.19 15:21:00 - [80] Originally by: Princess Gally Any Goon older than 12 on this topic? hum... on the whole forum then? There must be, two of them on CSM... I'll keep searching... <------- Why does it take so much training to melt ice?
Nachshon 17th Minmatar Tactical Wing	Posted - 2008.06.20 06:47:00 - [81] Please. This is stupid. Since when does being part of an RP brothel disqualify Jade from leading the CSM? ____________________________________ Caldari by birth, Minmatar by citizenship. The True Meaning of Freedom My v
Dr Paithos Republic Deep Space Institute	Posted - 2008.06.20 19:56:00 - [82] As a fat, balding 28 year old man I feel I speak for all of EVE's core demographic here. Roleplaying brothels are strange and not a little disturbing to me, and I feel it would be but a short step towards that terrible vision that haunts all of us: being forced to don a fursuit and serve scantily clad transvestites hand and foot. We would be forced to cater to their every desire, no matter how degrading. I cannot bear to think of it! Even at night it haunts my dreams. And now the nights are drawing in. Please don't leave me alone here with my dreams.
Bad Harlequin Chiroptera Factor	Posted - 2008.06.21 01:37:00 - [83] Originally by: Tress Macneille Y'all had better not push Jade, it looks like he's getting pretty close to tha edge as much as you'd like to think you're that powerful, influential, or possessing uber mind-breaking powers... i don't see any change in Jade's posting or tone. If anything, he's been rather brief Quick question: the bit about you yoinking the files, registering the domain name, and hosting it yourself: true or false? One word answer, please. Since you hate walls of text so much, I know you can do it. ----- -- we all live in a yellow subroutine --
Veronique deEstelle Temporal Logistics	Posted - 2008.06.22 15:57:00 - [84] Originally by: Maitsu Edited by: Maitsu on 12/06/2008 00:22:59 I'm completely uncomfortable with the direction that Jade Constantine might take this game due to his past involvement in a roleplaying brothel chatroom inside EVE. http://web.archive.org/web/20040724180503/http://www.mordante.demon.co.uk/Maison.htm This is the original site for information on this. http://www.eve-chatsubo.com/viewtopic.php?t=2480&highlight=maison These are old posts showing he's clearly involved and it's not some goon conspiracy to tarnish his name. http://www.scrapheap-challenge.com/viewtopic.php?p=501920#501920 This is a post where he claims the whole thing is a goon conspiracy and denies all of it. This is not somebody I want to have represent us to CCP since he obviously is very different from your average player. On top of that he apparently likes to lie about things. Maybe I missed some relevant post but it seems to me that Jade claims on Scrapheap just that the site is no longer hosted by him. And while there might be some issues with his performance as chairman I don't feel that former RPing is a valid reason to demand his head on a plate.
Irongut M'8'S Frontal Impact	Posted - 2008.06.23 06:40:00 - [85] What Jade gets up to in game has no bearing on whether he's fit to be on the CSM. Lots of people voted for him because they wanted him there. Some (most?) of them knew who he is and what he does in game. If you wanted Darius to be chairman of the CSM you should have got your alliance off their fat arses and voted for him in the first place. - Join Frontal Impact Racing Team & feel the speed!
Setana Manoro Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2008.06.24 15:17:00 - [86] Originally by: Maitsu Edited by: Maitsu on 12/06/2008 00:22:59 I'm completely uncomfortable with the direction that Jade Constantine might take this game due to his past involvement in a roleplaying brothel chatroom inside EVE. http://web.archive.org/web/20040724180503/http://www.mordante.demon.co.uk/Maison.htm This is the original site for information on this. http://www.eve-chatsubo.com/viewtopic.php?t=2480&highlight=maison These are old posts showing he's clearly involved and it's not some goon conspiracy to tarnish his name. http://www.scrapheap-challenge.com/viewtopic.php?p=501920#501920 This is a post where he claims the whole thing is a goon conspiracy and denies all of it. This is not somebody I want to have represent us to CCP since he obviously is very different from your average player. On top of that he apparently likes to lie about things. When a goon is not spouting puss at you, he is either lying or very very sick. Have you seen a doctor lately ? Deffinitely not voting for this.
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2008.06.24 16:50:00 - [87] I can announce that CCP actually liked my idea for space-prostitutes to become a new upkeep requirement for deep space POS towers. CSM Manifesto 2008 \| Destroy Outposts!
ellie mayer	Posted - 2008.06.24 17:07:00 - [88] Originally by: Jade Constantine I can announce that CCP actually liked my idea for space-prostitutes to become a new upkeep requirement for deep space POS towers. Obvious troll is obvious !
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2008.06.24 17:17:00 - [89] Originally by: ellie mayer Originally by: Jade Constantine I can announce that CCP actually liked my idea for space-prostitutes to become a new upkeep requirement for deep space POS towers. Obvious troll is obvious ! Not a troll, think it through. Those poor blue collar workers on all the alliance towers need some entertainment right? How about they have a morale counter alongside their fuel counter and it begins to slip down when they don't have enough luxuries, drink, ciggies, drugs and hookers to keep them comfortable in the downtime between their shifts maintaining all the hangers and moon mining? Rather than forcing alliances to shift boring rubbish like robotics and mechanical parts lets have supply convoys of luxuries needed to keep POS grinding away at their optimum levels. It'd be great! You need to watch outland and see that deep-space stations are gritty places with hard-bitten riggers that need the comfort of professionals from time to time. CSM Manifesto 2008 \| Destroy Outposts!
ellie mayer	Posted - 2008.06.24 17:32:00 - [90] Well thought it through and...... Originally by: ellie mayer Obvious troll is obvious !
Zaran Darkstar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.06.24 18:19:00 - [91] Edited by: Zaran Darkstar on 24/06/2008 18:19:44 Originally by: Jade Constantine Not a troll, think it through. Those poor blue collar workers on all the alliance towers need some entertainment right? How about they have a morale counter alongside their fuel counter and it begins to slip down when they don't have enough luxuries, drink, ciggies, drugs and hookers to keep them comfortable in the downtime between their shifts maintaining all the hangers and moon mining? Rather than forcing alliances to shift boring rubbish like robotics and mechanical parts lets have supply convoys of luxuries needed to keep POS grinding away at their optimum levels. It'd be great! You need to watch outland and see that deep-space stations are gritty places with hard-bitten riggers that need the comfort of professionals from time to time. Post it as an idea and i will approve it! GREAT IDEA!
Kame Malice Mitsukashi Holdings Limited	Posted - 2008.06.24 18:29:00 - [92] sorry jade... but there's too much about yourself that you didn't tell us. How can we at all trust you?
Bad Harlequin Chiroptera Factor	Posted - 2008.06.24 18:57:00 - [93] Originally by: Kame Malice sorry jade... but there's too much about yourself that you didn't tell us. How can we at all trust you? your drugs, can i have 'em? ----- -- we all live in a yellow subroutine --
Bad Harlequin Chiroptera Factor	Posted - 2008.06.24 19:22:00 - [94] Edited by: Bad Harlequin on 24/06/2008 19:23:28 oops ----- -- we all live in a yellow subroutine --
Bad Harlequin Chiroptera Factor	Posted - 2008.06.24 19:22:00 - [95] Edited by: Bad Harlequin on 24/06/2008 19:22:51 ARGH
Arkanjuca R.U.S.T.	Posted - 2008.06.24 19:49:00 - [96] Im lost here, let me see if i get it: Jade creates la maison. Goon copy all and rehost when jade offline it. Jade claims that it was all invented by goons. Is that right? Anyway, it doesnt matter to the CSM business, judge jade by his chatlogs at CSM, thats all. -- AF should be like HACs
Nuri Aderynn Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.06.25 09:33:00 - [97] So wait. Players who were recruited from the Something Awful forums are complaining that someone once ran a vaguely smutty website?
Evanda Char Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.06.25 21:37:00 - [98] The thing is, the vast majority of people who voted for Jade, already knew full well about the existence of La Maison and they still felt they wanted him to represent them. However much you may or may not like it, he is there to represent the x many people who voted for him. You can't overturn their votes. -Eva- Electus Matari - taking it one bad guy at a time
chanchinpin gaijai	Posted - 2008.06.26 07:34:00 - [99] Not only should Jade be banned from the game -- but the Internet and children's areas of major theme parks as well.
Asuri Kinnes Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2008.06.26 11:08:00 - [100] Originally by: chanchinpin gaijai Not only should Jade be banned from the game -- but the Internet and children's areas of major theme parks as well. ???? This statement is so full of fail, its not even funny . . . He is "role playing". Something we all do everyday... Not only that, he's an adult. This thread needs to be locked/deleted... AK Honor is that which you do when no one else is looking. Ethics, Honor and Respect. Without the first two, you can't buy the last one...
NanDe YaNen The Funkalistic	Posted - 2008.07.27 17:50:00 - [101] Support space whales
Sebastien Starstrider Minmatar Ship Construction Services	Posted - 2008.07.27 18:40:00 - [102] Hurray for Gallentean Civil Rights! Jade is a boon to Democracy and should be recognized as an avatar of personal and political freedoms that we Gallenteans hold so dear.
Tzujeih GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.07.27 19:28:00 - [103] Originally by: Despina Lukas I definitely agree with Jade, and that's why I voted for her! Goonies and the other big boys only play this game to grief others with combat and ruin everyone else's fun. They completely miss the finer points of EVE -- the excellent playground it is to RP our space-borne fantasies! People like me and Jade are lucky to have a game and an RP background that allows us to transcend the gender that a capricious god gave us at birth, to become the seductive, witty, politically-savvy space-temptresses that we really are on the inside! Personally I can't wait until AMBULATION, when I'll have not just a pretty portrait to go with my flirty, witty chat, but an entire (and entirely lovely!) body! Hopefully with customizable clothes (or not! ;-) ) and plenty of cute emotes. I plan to set myself up in a salon orbiting the Galente homeworld and sip space-wine while being courted by my noble suiters. What a joy it will be to play the game the way I want to play it, and not bother with all the ugly combat and rude griefers. And don't think I'm alone -- there is a reason that Jade got the most votes out of all the candidates, after all! I think that "ladies" like myself are a silent majority in EVE, and we definitely deserve to have our views represented on the council. We need a voice and a strong hand that will shape this game to meet its greatest potential for the kind of play that so many of us enjoy (need!) so much. So in conclusion, keep up the good work Jade! Shine on you crazy diamond! Z
NanDe YaNen The Funkalistic	Posted - 2008.07.27 20:23:00 - [104] Space Circus for the win. I wholeheartedly support carnies and the entertainment they provide. TBH you have to give Jade's RL avatar guy a break. He does stupid shit on the internet for entertainment, and then has the bad fortune to be required to tie his RL existence to his avatar through the CSM nomination process. Would you not lie like hell about some stupid shit like that? Eve is a game. Real life is real life. I bet the guy has a job and has every reason to not stand behind any of the stupid crap he does and should fully be expected to claim it's all a huge goon smear campaign. Anyone who thinks this behavior should be condemned because it's dishonest is ignoring the guy's right to not tie his eve ridiculousness to his RL. Space hookers and Space whale watchers UNITE!
Garion Avarr Amarr Zero Zero Traders YTMND.	Posted - 2008.07.27 20:25:00 - [105] Originally by: Maitsu This is not somebody I want to have represent us to CCP since he obviously is very different from your average player. And I don't want non-RPers to represent us, because this is a ROLE-PLAYING game, but hey. But if this topic is actually serious -- I can't quite make up my mind -- what does it matter? What someone does on their own time in their personal lives just doesn't seem very relevent to one's professional/political/public life. In other words -- so what? ________________________________ This is not a signature.
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.07.27 20:40:00 - [106] Originally by: Maitsu This is not somebody I want to have represent us to CCP since he obviously is very different from your average player. On top of that he apparently likes to lie about things. Well, suck for you then that democracy means you personaly don't get the final say. Or are you anti-democracy too? What is it that you have in your closet that you are too afraid to face? I mean, that's what this is all about, isn't it? Your repressed feelings? Come on, tell us. Share with us. It will help you. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Marcus Gideon Gallente Excessive Force	Posted - 2008.07.27 22:54:00 - [107] Originally by: Garion Avarr Originally by: Maitsu This is not somebody I want to have represent us to CCP since he obviously is very different from your average player. And I don't want non-RPers to represent us, because this is a ROLE-PLAYING game, but hey. But if this topic is actually serious -- I can't quite make up my mind -- what does it matter? What someone does on their own time in their personal lives just doesn't seem very relevent to one's professional/political/public life. In other words -- so what? This whole thread is awesome... it's like a presidential smear campaign. "Bob Dole eats babies. Do you want your next president to be a baby eater?" "Jade Constantine likes to roleplay. Do you want your PvP and Gankfest, bloodbath mockery of an MMO... tainted with a roleplayer? Vote NO to Eve storyline, and vote YES for more ways to screw each other over while paying $15/month." This thread is full of fail. --- Don't take my rantings personally. I may just be arguing the topic, unless you're saying something stupid, and then I mean every word. "People don't want Variety. They want THE BEST"
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.07.27 23:48:00 - [108] This is fracking hilarious. I mean, EvE is a general microcosm of real life, a prime example of the inherited cruelty and selfishness that is prevalent in every humans nature, where goodness and sensibilities are the exception, not the rule. But this? This is a perfect example of a smear campaign. Since we have nothing to blast the candidate for, lets attack his wife! And his preacher! Or the guys military record, because obviously, if he was in the military, he will be a war monger! Obviously, since this guy had fun roleplaying as a female in a brothel, he's GOT to be some sick, twisted individual. Along those same lines of logic, anyone who's gotten a thrill for killing another player in game, that perfect trap or trick? You should probably see a psychologist, because deep down, your the kind of person who ****s dogs and kicks women, a pillager and plundering psychopath. I don't know Jade, and I need to figure out what his apparent bad comments have been. But if I was asked to vote today, I'd vote for him, and wouldn't vote for goonswarm. And I'm not your typical 'goonswarm' hater. I don't know them. But their forum representatives are simply AWFUL! Hahahahaha!!! Genesis Project
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.07.27 23:49:00 - [109] My wife laughs at this whole thread! Genesis Project
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.07.27 23:50:00 - [110] Only if you barred all the goons from ever being on the CSM for their blatant racism and scamming ways. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Fahtim Meidires Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.07.27 23:57:00 - [111] Originally by: Danton Marcellus Only if you barred all the goons from ever being on the CSM for their blatant racism and scamming ways. Scamming is not prohibited in EVE. Nor is racism, as long as I'm roleplaying, you minmatar #!&&@%$
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.07.28 00:02:00 - [112] Originally by: Fahtim Meidires Originally by: Danton Marcellus Only if you barred all the goons from ever being on the CSM for their blatant racism and scamming ways. Scamming is not prohibited in EVE. Nor is racism, as long as I'm roleplaying, you minmatar #!&&@%$ Where is being a **** frowned upon? You really need to look into your connection, you've got glitches. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Marlona Sky Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.07.28 01:16:00 - [113] OP is a goon. Who in their right mind would believe anything that comes out of his mouth. On the other hand there is tons of "Remove Jade" threads all the time. If he is supposed to represent the EVE community then why do so many people want him out of the CSM?
Windjammer Gallente	Posted - 2008.07.28 01:45:00 - [114] Originally by: Fahtim Meidires Originally by: Danton Marcellus Only if you barred all the goons from ever being on the CSM for their blatant racism and scamming ways. Scamming is not prohibited in EVE. Nor is racism, as long as I'm roleplaying, you minmatar #!&&@%$ Wow. I see what you mean. You really DO post in a way that makes people take you seriously. And may I say, it's what I've come to expect from the majority of goonswarm. Windjammer
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2008.07.28 03:40:00 - [115] Originally by: Marlona Sky On the other hand there is tons of "Remove Jade" threads all the time. If he is supposed to represent the EVE community then why do so many people want him out of the CSM? Never underestimate the power of idiocy + Internet anonymity. Whoever was elected who wasn't the tool of x,y,z faction was going to get flamed by x,y,z faction in something akin to autonomous reflex. Anyway this thread needs a lock. It was joke/parody thats passed its sell by date and has no relevance to the CSM. Star Fraction \| Dare to Dream!
Mara Rinn Minmatar	Posted - 2008.07.28 04:58:00 - [116] Originally by: Jade Constantine Anyway this thread needs a lock. It was joke/parody thats passed its sell by date and has no relevance to the CSM. No no, it has relevance in the "pot calling the kettle black" sense. They wouldn't be Goonswarm if they weren't trying to ruin someone else's fun.
Kazuma Saruwatari Caldari	Posted - 2008.07.28 10:31:00 - [117] /me golfclaps great attempt at a smear campaign. I mean, what the ** does it matter what a candidate does in his/her personal time/s in/out of the game? What, we're going to go dig a whole lot deeper and go say the player likes to have his peanut-butter-and-jelly sandwich with the PB&J on top of the bread like a "sick sick **"? Is he/she not doing his job? Is he/she nothing but false hope and lack of action? Jade has been neither as far as I've seen, though I wouldnt have voted him as first. In that respect, I wouldnt have voted for any goon to be on the CSM either. I'd rather had a BoD member on the CSM if given a choice. -

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