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Varsuuk
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Posted - 2003.06.14 08:51:00 -
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Are the new values, new values or a bug?
I mean, cruisers giving something like 0.0004 bonus to sec?
I really hope this is a bug. I read a poorly written comment about "attacking pirates" not giving as much "legal benefit" so I suspect this is it, but if this is the only way to raise sec in the game it seems extreme.
Or is there something else involved?
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Shock
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Posted - 2003.06.14 17:13:00 -
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No it's not. And it's meant to counter pirates keeping their sec level high by killing the pirates of thegates they are camping.
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Varsuuk
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Posted - 2003.06.14 20:07:00 -
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OK.
So do the math... for a guy (like me) that never shot a player but wants a goal of 10.0:
Mauraders sec bonus: 0.0004 (correct me if wrong, I will try to edit when I next kill one if today)
from 0.0 -> 5.0 (not a high sec, imo) = 12,500 mauraders
10.0 = 25,000 mauraders
Picture if you are just killing high end frigs or deps...
AND I may be wrong and its one more 0 in bonus ie, 0.00004 if so its: 250,000 / 500,000
Now, I assumed this was a stopgap till they fixed the way they were handling pirates.
If that is so, fine. Otherwise they really should have warned us - I wanted 10.0 and could have had it had I not been peacably taking a break doing agent missions cos they nerfed 'hard' pirates near me and before moving my entire operation and going far from my agents I decided to get some progress on em.
Of course... maybe I am not thinking, but doesn't it occur to anyone if they want to 'hurt' ppl shooting others that they can leave fire penalties as is and just up 1) ship destruction by the same horrendous multiple (using simple mathematical concepts shows that an increase in loss of sec is the same as the same decrease in ability to raise sec - IF you are a pirate, but it doesn't hurt those who are NOT pirates.
2) Increase podkilling to -10 immediately (it's what ****es off ppl the most I guess, not sure)
In addition, if Sec-Level affects any other game aspect and we are doing such a (half-assed) hack... then there should be a Sec-level wipe for ppl with positive (or all, if you want to give 'pirates' another chance) to 0.0 and let us start even. Otherwise those that just did the killing (and of course all of us, my 7.7 included who started early) have another unfair advantage.
Please post comments or ideas if you think this lowering of only bonuses is wrong - otherwise CCP will just continue with hacks.
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Sri
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Posted - 2003.06.14 20:14:00 -
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It's a practical difference. Currently what is the advantage of a 10.0 sec status over 0.0? You can kill a convoy or PC or two and not be universally hated. That of course is the point. From -10 to 0 should have a huge difference. And so the penalty for killing people, etc.. should be sufficiently high that it's not recoverable from in any reasonable fashion. Going from a 0.0 sec status to 10.0 is a nice goal, but it doesn't actually change anything for you unless you want to be a PC pirate later.
But those buggers who run around empire space with -10 sec status should not be able to recover from that in any short time frame.
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Varsuuk
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Posted - 2003.06.14 20:21:00 -
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Actually, I heard of something about sec 10.0 allowing you to do something or get missions or something like that from CONCORD in regards to HUNTING pc-pirates etc.
It may just be beta-period 'trash talk' that could not be implemented (was in the html info pages on EVE) or it may be something for the future to be done.
If, in fact, sec >0 means NOTHING then I don't care - other than it being a bit of a waste to bother with as implemented.
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Dethor Gory
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Posted - 2003.06.15 01:01:00 -
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I've been getting 0.0000 sec for killing NPC pirates today
Edited by: Dethor Gory on 15/06/2003 01:01:34
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Majin Buu
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Posted - 2003.06.15 04:55:00 -
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lol i got 9.9 sec rating when i noticed i was only getting 0.0005 sec increase for killing 50,000isk pirates, ah well i guess ill be able to afford my battleship when i hit 10.0 sec rating :)
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Rancid Mare
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Posted - 2003.06.15 11:41:00 -
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50k pirates ?
pretty please where are you finding them..
im traviling all over the shop and cannot find 30 or 50 k pirates.
getting bored of the 20k pirates.
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