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Hoody	Posted - 2008.06.12 10:42:00 - [1] What with the addition of FW and this noob being very low skilled i'm looking for some cheap ship's/loadouts so i can learn the way of the Amarr, whilst i have checked the ship loadout section most of the post's there are 1-2 years old and a little out of date, so does anyone have any suggestions?
Mr Totalhelldeath	Posted - 2008.06.12 10:49:00 - [2] use the punisher: it's cheap and a very powerfull friggy fit: 1 small armor rep / 2capacitor power relay/ 1200 mm plate 1ab/1scram 3pulses/1nos (or neut - with a neut you won't be cap stable)
Kano Sekor modro CORPVS DELICTI	Posted - 2008.06.12 11:26:00 - [3] Frigs: Punisher 3 x Ion Blaster II 1 x Neut/Nos 1 x MWD 1 x Scrambler 1 x SAR II 2 x EANM 1 x MFS Executioner 2 x Guns 1 x MWD 1 x Scrambler 2 x OD Cruisers: Omen: 5 x FMP II 1 x MWD 1 x Disruptor 1 x Cap booster 2 x HSII 1 x MAR 2 x CPR:s Arbitrator 2 x Neuts 2 x guns of choice 1 x MWD 1 x Disruptor 2 x Tracking Disruptors T2 w/ tracking scripts 1 x 1600mm plate w/ stuff +****load of drones Maller 5 x Small guns 1 x Nos 1 x MWD 1 x Disruptor 1 x Webber 1 x MAR 1 x 1600mm plate 1 x DC II 3 x Active hardeners BTW im just pulling this setups out of my ass so if they dont fit or something dont whine i just put these out for inspiration ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hoody	Posted - 2008.06.12 11:27:00 - [4] Thnx, why the blasters instead of lasers though? (different damage types?)
Holy Lowlander Otaared Incorporated	Posted - 2008.06.12 11:41:00 - [5] Edited by: Holy Lowlander on 12/06/2008 11:41:39 Frigate : Punisher ! highs: 3x 200 mm AC's 1 x neut meds : small cap booster: warp scram lows : 1 dc 1 100 mm(or 200mm dnno anymore ..^^) plate 1gyrostab 1 small amor rep. note : AC's because they don't cost cap and have lower fitting regs. Punisher : 3 x medium pulses 1 x nothing meds : warp scram mwd lows : 1 x OD 1 x heatsink 1x cap power relay 1 x nano fiber note : this is evil when used in large groups ^^ (noob mercs ^^) Cruiser : Arbitrator: highs: 2x 700 mm howitsers (again no cap costs) 1x small missle bay 1x drone link meds: 1 x tracking disruptor 1 x warp disruptor 1 x small cap booster 1 x mwd lows : 1 x od 2 x nanofiber 1 x inerta note : this is awsome when the stuff in the lows is t2. (but its more expensive) Arbitrator : highs : 2x small guns of choice 1x misslebay 1x drone link meds : 1x large shield extender 1x mwd 1x warp disruptor 1x cap booster lows: 1 x od 2x nano 1 x inertia. Maller : (ok this is only when you have an active tanking ships with blasters or lasers as oponent and a small gang with damage dealers) highs : 6x medium neut meds : 1x AB 1x medium cap booster (charge 800) 1x cap recharger lows: 4x cap power relay 2x reactor controll unit. note : this is probably not the best setup for a maller, but when facing a Harbinger/Brutix/Thorax/Omen etc. and you have 2 damage ships as backup , you'll notice that they die verry fast (no tank and no damage from them ^^) . it perma runs until the cap booster charges are gone ^^. Gl with pvp . (another note : I tried all those setups myself , and they work ^^) edit : sorry for my bad english ... ^^ ------ >.>
Hoody	Posted - 2008.06.12 11:44:00 - [6] Thnx
Ciaphas Khaine Wreckless Abandon Un-Natural Selection	Posted - 2008.06.12 11:44:00 - [7] the reason people use autocannons and blasters on amarr ships is that at low skillpoint levels, and on ships that do not have a bonus to lazer damage, autocannons are the best choice because they dont use cap and have the best damage of all unbonused weapons BOOST EVERYTHING THAT I FLY! NERF EVERYTHING I DONT!
Templar Dane Amarrian Retribution	Posted - 2008.06.12 11:47:00 - [8] Punisher is usually the best bet in your situation. Fittings for your punisher are going to vary widely, depending on what you can use, and your fitting skills. You aren't going to be much of a damage dealer though, and with only 2 mid slots you won't have "full tackle". If you have a little more isk and the ability to pilot cruisers, however, things are a bit different. I was once in a situation where I couldn't afford to keep pvping in battlecruisers and tech 2 ships(was back before invention, so tech 2 ships/mods were much more expensive). I had thought about jumping back into punishers, but my contribution to the gang wouldn't be as much as another frigate with 3+ mids would be. I turned to the second-cheapest alternative...... Arbitrator Empty highs except for s and giggles couple of guns/laucher/cloak if you want 4 mids, so you have some options 10mn mwd 2x tracking disrupter last one can be sensor booster/warp scram/another tracking disrupter Lows fit for speed or a plated tank I recommend speed, because no matter what you do it'll only tank a bit better than a dry paper bag. Tech 1 non-named mods and carry a full load of Hammerhead Is This ship after insurance probably costs about the same as a tech 2 fitted frigate. You'll want to fly this thing like what it is, an electronic warfare support ship. Sick your drones(or have them assist someone you know is going to be shooting primaries) and fly around the outer edges of fights. Use your craptacular speed to evade fire, and when you start taking hits, to get out of dodge. Be flexible with your tracking disrupter scripts depending on the situation and you can be a big asset. I am not a templar, a fighter drone used by carriers.
Inertial The Python Cartel	Posted - 2008.06.12 11:55:00 - [9] [Punisher, New Setup 1] Small Armor Repairer II N-Type Adaptive Nano Membrane I Type-D Power Core Modification: Capacitor Power Relay Type-D Power Core Modification: Capacitor Power Relay 1MN Afterburner II Warp Scrambler II Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency S Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency S Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency S Small Diminishing Power System Drain I [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Farily cheap, does good dps, goodish range, tanks nicely. Don't let people fool you with AC fittings etc, you'll do more DPS with lasers, and cap isn't a problem either. we are recruiting!
Kano Sekor modro CORPVS DELICTI	Posted - 2008.06.12 12:03:00 - [10] Originally by: Inertial [Punisher, New Setup 1] Farily cheap, does good dps, goodish range, tanks nicely. Don't let people fool you with AC fittings etc, you'll do more DPS with lasers, and cap isn't a problem either. O RLY?
Jill Antaris Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.06.12 20:53:00 - [11] Omen: 5x FMP II Distrutor II, Small Cap Booster, MWD SAR, DC II, ANP, 400mm RT, Heat Sink ---------------------- Nerf Lasers! Thay need far to less CPU and Grid to Fit. Still using not enught Cap and do far to mutch Damage. O wait... they allready did... =(
AstroPhobic	Posted - 2008.06.12 21:18:00 - [12] Originally by: Jill Antaris Omen: 5x FMP II Distrutor II, Small Cap Booster, MWD SAR, DC II, ANP, 400mm RT, Heat Sink 400 plate seems to me like a waste in a cruiser. Wouldn't switching for a CPR/HS and upgrading the SAR to a MAR be more effective?
Kano Sekor Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2008.07.16 07:08:00 - [13] Sitting at work so i cant confirm with EFT but is this fit any good at all? Punisher Highs: 3 x 150mm Prototype gauss guns Meds: 1 x MWD II 1 x Warp Disruptor I Lows: 2 x OD II 2 x CPR II What i was thinking was orbitting outside of web range and shooting some. Was thinking of a Remote Repper in last high slot for gangmates after the fight, but i guess it wont fit. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Desu Sigs
Admiral Pelleon Caldari White Shadow Imperium	Posted - 2008.07.16 07:10:00 - [14] [Arbitrator, PvP] Overdrive Injector System II Overdrive Injector System II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Large Capacitor Battery II Large Shield Extender II Warp Disruptor II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II 280mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet EMP S 280mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet EMP S 'Arbalest' Assault Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Sabretooth Light Missile Prototype Cloaking Device I [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Hammerhead II x5 Hammerhead II x5 Warrior II x5 Light Armor Maintenance Bot I x5 Replace with T1 where you want, swap cloak for another launcher in low-sec. 2.5km/s, 250dps. ________ Originally by: Tarminic I believe your mother should have re-rolled her birth control.
Kano Sekor Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2008.07.16 07:17:00 - [15] Originally by: Admiral Pelleon [Arbitrator, PvP] Overdrive Injector System II Overdrive Injector System II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Large Capacitor Battery II Large Shield Extender II Warp Disruptor II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II 280mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet EMP S 280mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet EMP S 'Arbalest' Assault Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Sabretooth Light Missile Prototype Cloaking Device I [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Hammerhead II x5 Hammerhead II x5 Warrior II x5 Light Armor Maintenance Bot I x5 Replace with T1 where you want, swap cloak for another launcher in low-sec. 2.5km/s, 250dps. Me misses usage of tracking disruptors for automatic win against turretusing ships. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Desu Sigs
Admiral Pelleon Caldari White Shadow Imperium	Posted - 2008.07.16 07:23:00 - [16] Edited by: Admiral Pelleon on 16/07/2008 07:22:53 Originally by: Kano Sekor Originally by: Admiral Pelleon [Arbitrator, PvP] Overdrive Injector System II Overdrive Injector System II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Large Capacitor Battery II Large Shield Extender II Warp Disruptor II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II 280mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet EMP S 280mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet EMP S 'Arbalest' Assault Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Sabretooth Light Missile Prototype Cloaking Device I [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Hammerhead II x5 Hammerhead II x5 Warrior II x5 Light Armor Maintenance Bot I x5 Replace with T1 where you want, swap cloak for another launcher in low-sec. 2.5km/s, 250dps. Me misses usage of tracking disruptors for automatic win against turretusing ships. Me missed a curse's midslot layout. Suppose you could drop the extender, but then missiles are really going to ruin your day. Battery helps permarun mwd so you should be able to outtrack and outrange most things anyways. ________ Originally by: Tarminic I believe your mother should have re-rolled her birth control.
Kano Sekor Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2008.07.16 07:29:00 - [17] Edited by: Kano Sekor on 16/07/2008 07:35:11 Originally by: Admiral Pelleon Edited by: Admiral Pelleon on 16/07/2008 07:22:53 Originally by: Kano Sekor Originally by: Admiral Pelleon [Arbitrator, PvP] Overdrive Injector System II Overdrive Injector System II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Large Capacitor Battery II Large Shield Extender II Warp Disruptor II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II 280mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet EMP S 280mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet EMP S 'Arbalest' Assault Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Sabretooth Light Missile Prototype Cloaking Device I [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Hammerhead II x5 Hammerhead II x5 Warrior II x5 Light Armor Maintenance Bot I x5 Replace with T1 where you want, swap cloak for another launcher in low-sec. 2.5km/s, 250dps. Me misses usage of tracking disruptors for automatic win against turretusing ships. Me missed a curse's midslot layout. Suppose you could drop the extender, but then missiles are really going to ruin your day. Battery helps permarun mwd so you should be able to outtrack and outrange most things anyways. Shield extender or not i think youre going to have a bad day against missile ships anyways, hence pick your fights in the arbi and go for those turret ships i.e. "Oh hai Mr. Thorax i has tracking disruptors and speed". btw. quote chatting ftw. And i whould like to retract my punisher fit it just gets far to pathetic dps, a whopping 57 dps. plx note that earlier in this thread was full of fail and posted the 1600mm plated arbi w/ tracking disruptors. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Desu Sigs
Kazuma Saruwatari Caldari	Posted - 2008.07.16 08:06:00 - [18] You lot have to get the 1600mm plated ideas out of your head. You're just basically crippling already crippled ships. -
Kano Sekor Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2008.07.16 08:10:00 - [19] Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari You lot have to get the 1600mm plated ideas out of your head. You're just basically crippling already crippled ships. What whould your ideas for the Maller be then? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Desu Sigs
To mare	Posted - 2008.07.16 08:31:00 - [20] Originally by: Ciaphas Khaine the reason people use autocannons and blasters on amarr ships is that at low skillpoint levels, and on ships that do not have a bonus to lazer damage, autocannons are the best choice because they dont use cap and have the best damage of all unbonused weapons indeed they have they have the worst dmg mod unbonused of all the weapon
Kazuma Saruwatari Caldari	Posted - 2008.07.16 09:57:00 - [21] Originally by: Kano Sekor Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari You lot have to get the 1600mm plated ideas out of your head. You're just basically crippling already crippled ships. What whould your ideas for the Maller be then? 'cept the maller. I mean, I'm seeing setups that 1600mm-plate a Arbi?! An Arbi does way better nano'ed up. -
Daftex Muleson Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.07.16 10:11:00 - [22] If you're gonna fly an Arbitrator, train for a Drone Link Augmentor....one of the few useful things the ship can have in it's high slots.
Kano Sekor Amarr The Movement	Posted - 2008.07.17 06:51:00 - [23] Edited by: Kano Sekor on 17/07/2008 06:55:04 Edited by: Kano Sekor on 17/07/2008 06:51:55 Blaster Punisher w/ buffer for small frig gang Highs: 3 x Light Neutron Blaster II w/ Void S 1 x Small 'Solace' Remote Repper Med: 1 x 1MN MWD I 1 x Warp Scrambler I Lows: 2 x Adaptive Nano Plating II 1 x DCU II 1 x 200mm Rolled Tungsten Rigs:none its a frig Does around 100 dps with around 6100 ehp Remote repper fitted for after fights repair your buddies and they will repair you. Medium gun maller w/ remote reppers Highs: 4 x Quad Beam Laser II w/Gleam M or Aurora M 2 x Medium 'Solace' remote Repper Meds: 1 x Warp Disruptor 1 x Stasis Webifier 1 x Medium cap booster w/ 800's Lows: 1 x 800 mm Rolled Tungsten 1 x DCU II 2 x EANM II 1 x Magnetic plating 1 x Reactive Plating Rigs:none but i guess trimarks whould be good Around 150 dps and 29 k EHP and can remote rep 384 each 5 sec thats a total of 76.8 raw DPS repped and with resist all over 80%. And can also hit out to over 22+ km with those beams. What im thinking about is: should i put an afterburner on the Punisher to be able to keep a faster thight orbit? And yeah for solo (DONT DO IT) i whould put more beams on the maller and a nosferatu (yes it might still work) on the punisher. p.s. wtf a null? p.p.s. added some numbers. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Desu Sigs
GIC0 Minmatar Understandable Solutions	Posted - 2008.07.17 10:50:00 - [24] Quote: I'm seeing setups that 1600mm-plate a Arbi?! An Arbi does way better nano'ed up. I see nothing wrong with slapping a plate on the arbi. It might do better nano'ed (wouldn't know, never tested), but not all people like to fly nano ships. I'd rather get in close and take a beating. I enjoy ham.
Galia Bonaventure	Posted - 2008.07.17 20:42:00 - [25] Originally by: To mare Originally by: Ciaphas Khaine the reason people use autocannons and blasters on amarr ships is that at low skillpoint levels, and on ships that do not have a bonus to lazer damage, autocannons are the best choice because they dont use cap and have the best damage of all unbonused weapons indeed they have they have the worst dmg mod unbonused of all the weapon To mare speaks truth. DPS max skills, highest damage ammo, no ship bonuses Light Electron Blaster II - 32.28 Light Ion Blaster II - 34.59 Light Neutron Blaster II - 36.90 Gatling Pulse Laser II - 26.35 Dual Light Pulse Laser II - 27.33 Medium Pulse Laser II - 31.63 125mm Gatling Autocannon II - 25.37 150mm Light Autocannon II - 27.02 200mm Autocannon II - 28.41 Autocannons = worst DPS. Same trend for medium and large guns, only the disparity gets worse.
Anubis Xian Reavers	Posted - 2008.07.18 09:44:00 - [26] Armageddon is a pretty good bet. Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal. I'm the Juggernaut, *****!

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