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Slanty McGarglefist
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.06.12 17:17:00 -
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Edited by: Slanty McGarglefist on 12/06/2008 17:20:47 Let's say for instance my opponent is ratting and/or AFK but he has drones out. If I come out of stealth, launch a volley at him, and then restealth right after, will his drones still be able to target me and chase me down? |

Ki Tarra
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.12 17:21:00 -
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If he is ratting, then his drones will remain focused on the rat he sent them after.
If he is AFK, his drones might counter attack if he has set them to aggressive.
However, unless he gets a lock on your or his drones get within 2500m, you can recloak as normal. |

Slanty McGarglefist
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.06.12 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Ki Tarra If he is ratting, then his drones will remain focused on the rat he sent them after.
If he is AFK, his drones might counter attack if he has set them to aggressive.
However, unless he gets a lock on your or his drones get within 2500m, you can recloak as normal.
Thank you kindly. |

Modrak Vseth
Veto.
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Posted - 2008.06.12 17:31:00 -
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If there are no rats attacking him then his drones will likely auto-aggress you. Remember that there's a locking delay after uncloaking, so you may have to be uncloaked much longer then you originally planned, depending on your cloaking skill and how long it naturally takes to lock him. If he's got a sensor booster and is paying attention, he could theoretically get a lock on you before you get a lock on him, which could be bad for you.
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Slanty McGarglefist
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.06.12 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Modrak Vseth If there are no rats attacking him then his drones will likely auto-aggress you. Remember that there's a locking delay after uncloaking, so you may have to be uncloaked much longer then you originally planned, depending on your cloaking skill and how long it naturally takes to lock him. If he's got a sensor booster and is paying attention, he could theoretically get a lock on you before you get a lock on him, which could be bad for you.
I'll most likely be running around in a Stealth Bomber which recevies a 99% reduction in targeting delay so maybe I won't run into that issue as much. Sadly I just realized that a SB can't fit the Cov Ops cloak so inevitably he will see me when I warp in. __________________________________________________
Originally by: CCP Wrangler No
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Billy Sastard
Life. Universe. Everything.
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Posted - 2008.06.12 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Slanty McGarglefist I'll most likely be running around in a Stealth Bomber which recevies a 99% reduction in targeting delay so maybe I won't run into that issue as much. Sadly I just realized that a SB can't fit the Cov Ops cloak so inevitably he will see me when I warp in.
You need to set up an ambush for ratters if you are trying to pop them with a suprise SB. You just need to warp to a belt where there are no ratters and then cloak. If you can find a belt with some rats up, all the better, as there will be some actual bait there. Then just sit cloaked and wait for the ratter to come into belt, let him start getting shot then uncloak and do your business. One thing to keep in mind is that if you recloak while your missiles are still in flight they will no hit, you have to stay uncloaked until your missiles do their damage then you can recloak. -=^=-
My views do not represent my alliance. TBH, my posts do not even represent my own views...I am posting while asleep. |

Slanty McGarglefist
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.06.12 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Billy Sastard You need to set up an ambush for ratters if you are trying to pop them with a suprise SB. You just need to warp to a belt where there are no ratters and then cloak. If you can find a belt with some rats up, all the better, as there will be some actual bait there. Then just sit cloaked and wait for the ratter to come into belt, let him start getting shot then uncloak and do your business. One thing to keep in mind is that if you recloak while your missiles are still in flight they will no hit, you have to stay uncloaked until your missiles do their damage then you can recloak.
Thanks for the heads up. I would assume then a necessary fitting would be a warp scram since the ship can just get away quite easily. But i have also noticed that every SB setup loads up on Damps and Sensor boosters in the mids rather than a Scram. |

Ki Tarra
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.12 18:08:00 -
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Originally by: Slanty McGarglefist But i have also noticed that every SB setup loads up on Damps and Sensor boosters in the mids rather than a Scram.
I don't know from experience, but I would guess the reasoning is that if you don't kill him before he has time to warp away, you aren't going to be able to kill him even if you could get a point on him.
Therefore it is better to make sure that he can't get a lock on you (damps) and that you hit him as fast as you can (boosters). |

Slanty McGarglefist
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.06.12 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Ki Tarra
Originally by: Slanty McGarglefist But i have also noticed that every SB setup loads up on Damps and Sensor boosters in the mids rather than a Scram.
I don't know from experience, but I would guess the reasoning is that if you don't kill him before he has time to warp away, you aren't going to be able to kill him even if you could get a point on him.
Therefore it is better to make sure that he can't get a lock on you (damps) and that you hit him as fast as you can (boosters).
Ahh okay, thank you for the clarification. __________________________________________________
Originally by: CCP Wrangler No
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SoleDeo Gloria
Mission Runners Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.06.12 21:08:00 -
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Slanty,
Check Battleclinic for some loadouts - not sure which SB you are flying - I fly a Hound. I use a Signal Amplifier, Sensor Booster (with Targeting Speed script) and Remote Sensor Dampener (with Targeting Range script) - this allows me to stand off, target fast, and dampen-tank (can't shoot me if you can't lock me - well - except for F.O.F. stuff), drop missiles and boom.
Hiding in a belt works well - especially if they get some stronger ratts on them to help you out.
Remember you cannot cloak with missiles in the air or they will lose their lock. Also - keep an eye out if your target appears to be a nano-fitted ship - dampening has limitations on range - if he gets close enough he will target you - and then you can't cloak. |
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Slanty McGarglefist
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.06.12 22:21:00 -
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Originally by: SoleDeo Gloria Slanty,
Check Battleclinic for some loadouts - not sure which SB you are flying - I fly a Hound. I use a Signal Amplifier, Sensor Booster (with Targeting Speed script) and Remote Sensor Dampener (with Targeting Range script) - this allows me to stand off, target fast, and dampen-tank (can't shoot me if you can't lock me - well - except for F.O.F. stuff), drop missiles and boom.
Hiding in a belt works well - especially if they get some stronger ratts on them to help you out.
Remember you cannot cloak with missiles in the air or they will lose their lock. Also - keep an eye out if your target appears to be a nano-fitted ship - dampening has limitations on range - if he gets close enough he will target you - and then you can't cloak.
Thanks for the link and input. I will be flying a Purifier to answer your question. |

Tkar vonBiggendorf
Snake Eyes Inc Friend or Enemy
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Posted - 2008.06.13 18:16:00 -
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You also need to be within 20-30km of your target when you decloak/lock/fire. If you're too far away, your missiles will lose the lock and not hit when you cloak. That seems to be about the range where they hit the target before the cloak fully engages and the lock is lost. |
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