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Hakera
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Posted - 2004.05.11 19:57:00 -
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Edited by: Hakera on 12/05/2004 23:11:28
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Those of you who frequent the Intergalactic Summit section of GalNet will no doubt be aware of the continuing fundamentalist regieme the Curatores Veritatis Alliance (CVA).
Others may not yet of heard of this organisation.
It is of the UTMOST importance that Minmatar, Galante & Caldari everywhere take note of the existance of this alliance - it could eventually pose a threat to your very way of life...
Before you dismiss this, please let me provide you with some information, which you will not discover from 'official' CVA statements.
The CVA has continously supported acts of kidnap, terrorism, torture, genocide and wantum acts of terrorism in free space.
There are rumours that this Amarr coalition is making eyes at Jovian Space and are considering annexing this area from the Jove Empire. These are just unconfirmed rumours at this stage however!
What is known as a fact is that CVA fleets have been attacking ships from corporations who have not acknowledged their rights to enact their own law wherever it suits them.
According to intelligence reports that we have received the following corps are either members of the CVA or are connected to it.
(Disclaimer: Please bear in mind that intelligence reports cannot be 100% accurate, so no doubt there will be those who nitpick, however the list is 'generally' correct. We are aware that a few of the corps listed may not be members of the CVA and also that we have probably missed a few members!)
1. Pie Inc - radical Fundamentalists guilty of thousands of crimes in Matari and galactic law. 2. Dark Seraph - known pirates of helpless yachts commerical vessels on slaver raids 3. Imperial Dreams - help actively produce and develop the toxin Vitoc
As you can see this is a not insignificant gathering of Amarr oriented clans - all of whom are, if not directly involved in anti-Minmatar/Caldari/Gallante activities, then supportive of them.
CVA pilots have also been seen acting in concert and flying with other anti-Minmatar/Caldari/Gallante/Jovian corporations including:
1. Blacksheep Squadron
The purpose of this post is a WAKE UP call for Minmater/Caldari/Gallante/Jovian .
The FOM of Minmatar/Caldari/Gallante/Jovian Corps comprising numerous corps is already at war with many members of the CVA - and have indeed given them bloody noses on many occasions.
We are at war with the CVA as an organisation but reserve our right to launch combat operations into CVA space to punish those guilty of crimes against Minmatar/Caldari/Gallante/Jovian.
The time has now come for Minmatar/Caldari/Gallante/Jovian to join the FOM/PRM in their struggle against those who would interfere and meddle in Minmatar/Caldari/Gallante/Jovian affairs.
The CVA is a real and tangible enemy that can be found. It provides support and succour to the enemies of Minmatar/Caldari/Gallante/Jovian.
FOM/PRM calls on the CVA to turn themselves over to international authorities and give up their criminal ways.
FOM/PRM also calls upon Minmatar/Caldari/Gallante/Jovian loyalists to commit to the defence of the galaxy, its traditions and its way of life.
Act now before it's too late.
Contact FOM/PRM in game for more information...
Dumbledore - Eve-I.com |

Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.05.11 20:06:00 -
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Well Hakera, all I can say is that it's a good job there's not a death penalty for blatant plagiarism
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |

Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.05.11 20:30:00 -
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forgive Rodj; there's not much provision for parody or irony in an Empire...
You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike. |

Shamir Soza
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Posted - 2004.05.11 20:40:00 -
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Hakera,
The CVA Alliance defends the borders of the Amarr Empire against any one that would choose to threaten it. The majority of these groups just happen to be predominantly Minmatar terrorist organizations.
And how can Blacksheep Squadron be anti-Caldari and Gallente, when two of our primary members, not to mention, two very good friends of mine, just happen to be Caldari & Gallente? 
You want to explain?
What proof do you have to back up these accusations, or are these merely more rumors and propaganda manufactured to rally support for your cause without any basis of fact?
Sincerely,
Shamir
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Hardin
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Posted - 2004.05.11 20:55:00 -
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Shamir this thread is just a weak attempt at a satire of this thread 
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Pulgor
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Posted - 2004.05.11 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: Hakera Edited by: Hakera on 11/05/2004 21:00:18
Information
Those of you who frequent the Intergalactic Summit section of GalNet will no doubt be aware of the continuing fundlementalist regeime the Curatores Veritatis Alliance (CVA).
Others may not yet of heard of this organisation.
It is of the UTMOST importance that Minmatar, Galante & Caldari everywhere take note of the existance of this alliance - it could eventually pose a threat to your very way of life...
Before you dismiss this, please let me provide you with some information, which you will not discover from 'official' CVA statements.
The CVA has continously supported acts of kidnap, terrorism, torture, genocide and wantum acts of terrorism in free space.
There are rumours that this Amarr coalition is making eyes at Jovian Space and are considering annexing this area from the Jove Empire. These are just unconfirmed rumours at this stage however!
What is known as a fact is that CVA fleets have been attacking ships from corporations who have not acknowledged their rights to enact their own law wherever it suits them.
According to intelligence reports that we have received the following corps are either members of the CVA or are connected to it.
(Disclaimer: Please bear in mind that intelligence reports cannot be 100% accurate, so no doubt there will be those who nitpick, however the list is 'generally' correct. We are aware that a few of the corps listed may not be members of the CVA and also that we have probably missed a few members!)
1. Pie Inc - radical Fundlementalists guilty of thousands of crimes in Matari and galactic law. 2. Dark Seraph - known pirates of helpless yachts commerical vessels on slaver raids 3. Imperial Dreams - help actively produce and develop the toxin Vitoc
As you can see this is a not insignificant gathering of Amarr oriented clans - all of whom are, if not directly involved in anti-Minmater/Caldai/Gallante activities, then supportive of them.
CVA pilots have also been seen acting in concert and flying with other anti-Minmatar/Caldari/Gallante/Jovian corporations including:
1. Blacksheep Squadron
The purpose of this post is a WAKE UP call for Minmater/Caldari/Gallante/Jovian .
The FOM of Minmatar/Caldari/Gallante/Jovian Corps comprising numerous corps is already at war with many members of the CVA - and have indeed given them bloody noses on many occasions.
We are at war with the CVA as an organisation but reserve our right to launch combat operations into CVA space to punish those guilty of crimes against Minmatar/Caldari/Gallante/Jovian.
The time has now come for Minmatar/Caldari/Gallante/Jovian to join the FOM/PRM in their struggle against those who would interfere and meddle in Minmater/Caldai/Gallante/Jovian affairs.
The CVA is a real and tangible enemy that can be found. It provides support and succour to the enemies of Minmatar/Caldari/Gallante/Jovian.
FOM/PRM calls on the CVA to turn themselves over to international authorities and give up their criminal ways.
FOM/PRM also calls upon Minmatar/Caldari/Gallante/Jovian loyalists to commit to the defence of the galaxy, its traditions and its way of life.
Act now before it's too late.
Contact FOM/PRM in game for more information...
.... Says the face of Minmatar opression. You guys ***** me up sometimes. -----------------------------------
Pulgor --- In service to Saram. Visit the Ammatar channel ingame!
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Hakera
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Posted - 2004.05.11 21:42:00 -
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Edited by: Hakera on 12/05/2004 23:12:04
Originally by: Shamir Soza Hakera,
The CVA Alliance defends the borders of the Amarr Empire against any one that would choose to threaten it. The majority of these groups just happen to be predominantly Minmatar terrorist organizations.
as do we defend free space. Slavery is not soley the curse of the Minmatar, this effects all free people and I have liberated a great number of Caldari and Gallante in my time from the slavers you strive to die for and support in their ways. The very fact you make your bed with them condemns you from the true beliefs of your own people.
Originally by: Hardin Shamir this thread is just a weak attempt at a satire of this thread 
An attempt to shed some irony upon the Pie propanganda machine.
Originally by: Pulgor .... Says the face of Minmatar opression. You guys ***** me up sometimes.
Ah Pulgor, I have missed our little tit-a-tat. I see we are still running around the galaxy randomly broadcasting drunken ramblings from your pod. How is Nefanter space, I do not see you there much on my liberation ops?
Dumbledore - Eve-I.com |

Shamir Soza
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Posted - 2004.05.11 22:10:00 -
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Ah, understood.
Having been able to read both threads.
I see now
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2004.05.11 22:48:00 -
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Monkey see, monkey do. ----------------------------------------------
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Pulgor
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Posted - 2004.05.12 01:01:00 -
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I don't go to Nefentar space often. Only a fool goes to the place where his enemies are most likly to find him. -----------------------------------
Pulgor --- In service to Saram. Visit the Ammatar channel ingame!
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Kalast Raven
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Posted - 2004.05.12 02:18:00 -
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Clarify for me please. How does the CVA, which only combats Minmatar as I have heard, impact negatively on the Caldari?
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K. Raven
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Kular
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Posted - 2004.05.12 06:02:00 -
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OOC This has got to be the funniest thread I have EVER read on the summit. It took me over an hour to read the whole thing cause I would laugh at every single line!
IC While I do find this bit of information rather shaky I see it is an obvious dramatic reply to Hardins earlier announcment and made only in jest!
However I do believe this will rather missinform many of its viewers of the actual truth of what the CVA is! I espcially like the part where we and our friends in Black Sheep are great threats to all Gallente and Caldari, being as their entire corp is compossed of either Caldari or Gallente.
All in all I find this rather rediculus amd very suspcious as it reminds me too much of another corps press releases on its complete foolshness factor, can we say Jericho?
Home of Ubiqua Seraph Eve's only all Sarum loyal corporation. |

Wren
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Posted - 2004.05.12 06:12:00 -
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Disclaimer:
I had no hand in it. --------------------------------------------------
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Kular
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Posted - 2004.05.12 06:59:00 -
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Originally by: Wren Disclaimer:
I had no hand in it.
Wren you little flower of Martar couldn't stay away could you? Home of Ubiqua Seraph Eve's only all Sarum loyal corporation. |

Hakera
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Posted - 2004.05.12 07:36:00 -
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Edited by: Hakera on 12/05/2004 23:12:52 Edited by: Hakera on 12/05/2004 07:43:21 Edited by: Hakera on 12/05/2004 07:41:03
Originally by: Kalast Raven Clarify for me please. How does the CVA, which only combats Minmatar as I have heard, impact negatively on the Caldari?
it doesn't and the slaves it takes are not all Minmatar. There is no preference with slavery as long as they are not immune to vitoc or the new chips. It has long been known that Pie have been wanting revenge upon the Jovians and I still wonder what part they had to play in the recent tragic events regarding the Jovian Ambassaduer.
The CVA fights other Caldari daily, just ask the Admiral 
Originally by: Kular However I do believe this will rather missinform many of its viewers of the actual truth of what the CVA is! I espcially like the part where we and our friends in Black Sheep are great threats to all Gallente and Caldari, being as their entire corp is compossed of either Caldari or Gallente.
You are enemies of the race, not the person. People you can convince to take up arms and die for you like Blacksheep are just a band of terrorists. Just because you call a few of them friends does not make you a saint with the people.
However, I do not have the time or tenacity of Pie and Hardin for their 'spin' skills and I would waste every beat of my heart attempting to show people the truth behind the CVA only for it to be quickly played down and covered up by some new spin from the CVA.
My statement above, yes was made in jest to Hardin's spin to show captains listening out there that the web of deceit and lies quickly spun by the CVA around the truth can be broken. Ultimatly, it is up to the individual to convince themselves of what is right. We try daily to make the governments listen to almost no avail, but then we do not have vitoc to force people to listen like the CVA.
As long as a few people take this broadcast and look deeper into the CVA criminal activities and reign of terror over their people and all free people then my job here is done while I am drowned out by the CVA propaganda machine.
Dumbledore - Eve-I.com |

Wren
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Posted - 2004.05.12 08:01:00 -
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Hakara, that machine is greased by the sweat, tears, and blood of our people, and the unfortunate Gallente, Caldari or Amarrian who happens to fall too far.
Never give up hope. Never let your chin drop.
Every day, new pilots are trained in the Republic. Without the fight, how will they know that they too can make a stand?
The dissatisfied minority in the Empire grows. How long before some are allowed to speak and then by speaking set in motion a small pebble which might jam up those gears and bring the machine to a grinding stop?
Ideas and dreams are powerful. --------------------------------------------------
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Randuin MaraL
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Posted - 2004.05.12 08:20:00 -
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Originally by: Shamir Soza
The CVA Alliance defends the borders of the Amarr Empire against any one that would choose to threaten it.
Randuin Maral notes: "As we all know, this alliance of amarr and their lapdogs is not defending the actual borders of the amarr empire - CVA attacks minmatar in Molden Heath or Heimatar." ____________________________________________________
Never be in the company of anyone with whom you would not want to die.
MEDUSA veteran, Khumaak Award winner |

Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.05.12 08:33:00 -
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Originally by: Randuin MaraL
Originally by: Shamir Soza
The CVA Alliance defends the borders of the Amarr Empire against any one that would choose to threaten it.
Randuin Maral notes: "As we all know, this alliance of amarr and their lapdogs is not defending the actual borders of the amarr empire - CVA attacks minmatar in Molden Heath or Heimatar."
Clearly, it is possible to defend the borders of a region from outside that region.
Also we do not attack Minmatar as such, merely terrorists and their supporters. If you do not support terrorism, you have nothing to fear.
Do you support terrorism?
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |

Garreck
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Posted - 2004.05.12 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: Hakera People you can convince to take up arms and die for you like Blacksheep are just a band of terrorists.
Either a complete misunderstanding of the situation, or more blatant propeganda.
When it comes down to it, Blacksheep fight for political stability. Amarrian traders, participating in the legal activity of slave trading within Amarr space, should not be subject to the illegal activities of Minmatar freedom fighters bringing terror to the space lanes.
It's ironic, really. These terrorist, supposedly fighting against slavery, have enslaved an entire economic class of Amarrians with random acts of senseless violence. Perhaps this hypocracy is something you should look into before pointing fingers at a legally recognized state partaking in legal trade activities.
The fact that many Blacksheep pilots have recieved true enlightenment since being embraced by our Amarrian friends does not change our original intentions. It merely fires us with the zeal to accomplish the mission all the more effectively. The Amarr are a proud people, but they are quite warm to those "outsiders" that do not presume to judge their way of life and attempt to restrict their right to self-determination.
Garreck Aeternus Crusade
Aku. Soku. Zan. |

Wren
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Posted - 2004.05.12 10:42:00 -
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Ha.
Ha.
Ha.
I hope you remember those words the next time someone drops off Caldari ex-slaves at one of your state facilities. I bet those people don't appreciate the 'legal' trade. --------------------------------------------------
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Garreck
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Posted - 2004.05.12 10:54:00 -
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I am a Gallente, Wren.
I am well aware of the trade of my people and the Caldari, right along side the Minmatar. I have no easy answers for those slaves or their families, especially considering most non-Amarr do not share the Amarrian religious beliefs. But it stands to reason that terrorism in response to slavery is not the best way to handle the situation. Hence, Blacksheep have made their stand.
Garreck Aeternus Crusade
Aku. Soku. Zan. |

AsheRaven
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Posted - 2004.05.12 11:06:00 -
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so your answer is to support it?
Ahem.. I thought the slave trade was illegal in Gallante and frowned upon.
I'll inform the Gallantee authoritties of your treachory forthwith ---------------------------------
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Garreck
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Posted - 2004.05.12 11:23:00 -
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Edited by: Garreck on 12/05/2004 11:24:18 You are quite right, Ashe. However, my rejection of my own people goes into a whole other discussion. I have not come within a few lightyears of Gallente space in quite some time, but if the Federation has the audacity to send a task force into Amarr to come and get me, then I say let them try.
Garreck Aeternus Crusade
Aku. Soku. Zan. |

Maidel
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Posted - 2004.05.12 11:24:00 -
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Edited by: Maidel on 12/05/2004 11:25:12
Originally by: Hakera
3. Imperial Dreams - help actively produce and develop the toxin Vitoc
As a proud member of Imperial Dreams I can firmly deny this baseless accusation!
Imperial Dreams is a proud member of the CVA but it does not produce anything other than high quality ships and equpment for its self and other loyal Ammarians.
In future please replace 'help actively produce and develop the toxin Vitoc' with something more suitable suchs as
Imperial Dreams - help actively produce and develop high quality ships and equipment used in the purging of minmitar scum from the universe.
'Your Tachyon Beam Laser I perfectly strikes Sansha's Ravager, wrecking for 554.6 damage. - they do work occationally' |

AsheRaven
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Posted - 2004.05.12 11:50:00 -
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Edited by: AsheRaven on 12/05/2004 11:51:11
Originally by: Maidel
Imperial Dreams - help actively produce and develop high quality ships and equipment used in the purging of minmitar scum from the universe.
And thank you for confirming your support of Genocide that CVA has long denied. I'm sure Hakera will correct the statement in his own way. ---------------------------------
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Maidel
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Posted - 2004.05.12 12:13:00 -
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hmmm i see no menion of genocide - i said 'minmitar scum' - now if u take that to mean the entire of the minmitar race - then u are more guilty of being racist than any member of the CVA.
Minmitar scum merely refers to the pirates that shot down my lovely omen months ago, the pirates that invaded my corps home systems and systematically attack our loyal members.
Not all members of the minmitar race are scum - merely the minority that continue this pointless war again our glorous empire.
'Your Tachyon Beam Laser I perfectly strikes Sansha's Ravager, wrecking for 554.6 damage. - they do work occationally' |

Jim Hawkins
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Posted - 2004.05.12 14:59:00 -
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Just for the record - and we'll deal with the facts here, just in case anyone gets confused and starts to question the truth - the CVA Alliance exists to defend the Empire and its citizens from the unwelcome attention of those that would do them harm.
In practical terms, this means shooting at members of those corporations (principally Minmatar), which have attacked and killed, or declared an intent to attack and kill, Amarrian traders involved in the transport of slaves - a perfectly legitimate business practise in the Amarr Empire.
This 'shooting' often takes place within the borders of the so-called Minmatar Republic, where these corporations cower and hide.
Apologists for these 'terrorists' then accuse the CVA Alliance of aggressive action and announce their jaundiced views to the world that the Amarr are a threat to the safety and well-being of all races.
Clearly this is propostrous. It is no more than a weak attempt to rally support for a vile and villainous cause.
All this Minmatar propogandist has done is show himself up for the manipulative war-monger that he is.
Long live the Empire.
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Intergral Carla
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Posted - 2004.05.12 15:22:00 -
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Nahh, he's just better at it than you are
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Ph0enix
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Posted - 2004.05.12 15:33:00 -
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I do not deny i am a terrorist.
I do not deny that i shoot so called "inocent" Amarrian traders.
What i will NOT accept is the idea that somehow the CVA are in the right for protecting the slave trade. The fact that they can stand up and proclaim that the mighty creator God himself condones such a disregard for fellow humans is nothing less than disgusting. If any of you took a second to study the long-ago written text of Earth, the Bible, which has for centuries been considered the word of God (until the Amarr took it upon themselves to re-write it), you will see that God in no way condones treating other humans in such a way. When you die at the hands of a vengeful Matari such as myself, be assured that nothing but hellfire awaits you.
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Gaven Lok'ri
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Posted - 2004.05.12 15:59:00 -
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Edited by: Gaven Lok'ri on 12/05/2004 16:03:21 Since you seem to think you have studied the pre-Amarr scriptures...
Why dont you reread the first few books.
They just happen to include rules for treatment and control of slaves. In fact they go farther and actually condone killings of evil men and groups, and talk of owning slaves in a casual manner.
So as this was a facet of scripture long before the god inspired changes... your point is void.
Nobiscum Deus! Ave Doriam II! |
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