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Belatu Cadro Kinda'Shujaa	Posted - 2008.06.16 08:50:00 - [1] Edited by: Belatu Cadro on 16/06/2008 08:53:34 Edited by: Belatu Cadro on 16/06/2008 08:50:52 At approximately 22:30 Eve standard time, a fleet of pilots on patrol in Tararan consisting of KindaÆShujaa Warriors, along with a small contingent of UshraÆKhan, and other allies in the Minmatar Militia received intelligence of a strong force of Amarr Military vessels in the Auga solar system. We immediately set out from our location and moved our fleet of 21 pilots to intercept the enemy; we arrived in Auga to find a vastly outnumbered squad of Tribal Liberation Force pilots bravely standing their ground fighting to the end, our well disciplined fleet waited on reports from our scouts and instructions from our fleet commander, within seconds we were ordered to engage the enemy, with tactical targets indicated and battle commands clear. We fell upon the enemy with the vengeance only a nation fighting for its very freedom could ever understand, within 30 minutes the tide of the battle changed and our still vastly outnumbered force started winning the battle. As quickly as the battle started it ended, with the remaining Amarr forces retreating from the Auga system jumping into Kourmonen, our force chose not to follow, we had won a decisive victory and we allowed a worthy enemy the respite to retreat to safety. Minmatar Liberation Forces started to leave the battlefield to re-supply when we were surprised by the return of the re-supplied Amarr force; they entered the Auga system again in full force outnumbering the force that had remained in the Auga attacking with the ferocity of an enemy with something to prove, once again outnumbered force stood our ground and proved for a second time that strong command and effective battlefield intelligence could turn the tables on a stronger force, for the second time we won the battle and again we chose to allow the enemy to retreat. It was at this point that we started to stand down, believing that the second decisive battle had pushed the Amarr back to their home systems, we started triage operations re-supply of the front lines and clearing the field of debris. But once again the Amarr fleet returned and fell upon the small Minmatar fleet that was still in the battlefield, the third and final battle was paced hard and fast, with ships and pods dying at a frightening pace on all sides, but again for the third time the outnumbered Minmatar force turned the battle and won the battle, after the third defeat the Amarr fleet retreated, having been completely decimated. Incomplete battle reports so far shows more than 120 enemy vessels destroyed, 65 of which KindaÆShujaa had direct involvement in, with the loss of approximately 40 vessels, 13 of which were KindaÆShujaa losses. Brothers & Sisters of the Minmatar, you fought bravely this night, and you showed the Amarr that we will not be defeated, we will not be suppressed, and we will NEVER again be enslaved. To the Amarr Forces. We Come For Our People !!!
Mori Felding Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.06.16 10:35:00 - [2] Well fought, I salute you! ___ Memento Mori
NereSky The Republican 1st Strike Force	Posted - 2008.06.16 11:36:00 - [3] A glorious battle indeed - the task of moving the Amarr one step closer to their God is made all the easier with Pilots who took part in that Victorious battle you describe. o7
Illuvian Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2008.06.16 11:38:00 - [4] We salute you Commander, may our forces continue to push back these Amarr cowards. We come for our people!! Metus improbos compescit, non clementia. It is fear, not kindness that restrains the wicked.
Daziel Iaar PIE Inc.	Posted - 2008.06.16 11:41:00 - [5] Edited by: Daziel Iaar on 16/06/2008 11:41:49 Maybe we should post after every major victory we achieve. Your propaganda is admirable, however it is clearly flawed as we all know there is a difference between mere militia and organised para-militaries. Templar Lieutenant of the 24th Crusade "His Will Be Done"
Illuvian Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2008.06.16 11:44:00 - [6] Originally by: Daziel Iaar Edited by: Daziel Iaar on 16/06/2008 11:41:49 Maybe we should post after every major victory we achieve. Your propaganda is admirable, however it is clearly flawed as we all know there is a difference between mere militia and organised para-militaries. The only difference Daziel is that our militia is destroying your slaver fleets. We are winning and you are crying. Metus improbos compescit, non clementia. It is fear, not kindness that restrains the wicked.
Daziel Iaar PIE Inc.	Posted - 2008.06.16 11:58:00 - [7] Edited by: Daziel Iaar on 16/06/2008 11:58:32 Edited by: Daziel Iaar on 16/06/2008 11:58:10 Originally by: Illuvian Originally by: Daziel Iaar Edited by: Daziel Iaar on 16/06/2008 11:41:49 Maybe we should post after every major victory we achieve. Your propaganda is admirable, however it is clearly flawed as we all know there is a difference between mere militia and organised para-militaries. The only difference Daziel is that our militia is destroying your slaver fleets. We are winning and you are crying. I take it you do not know the difference between militia and Para-militaries. KindaÆShujaa and UshraÆKhan are well organised para-militaries who have alot of experience within the field of battle, where as a simple militia is usually disorganised and inexperienced. Its clear to see a fleet lead by these para-militaries have a clear advantage over a fleet made up of disorganised, inexperienced pilots. I'm not saying all militia members are disorganised and inexperienced but its fair to say the majority are especially in large fleets. Your own militia is not winning anything, statistics have shown our militia are gaining a better pilot to victory point ratio compared to all other factions. So you see, you may of destroyed a single militia fleet with the aid of your own para-militaries, but we've done that a number of times ourselves and not only that but we are also doing better statistic wise. God will deliver our victory, so you may say as much as you want, but we all know how this will finish. Templar Lieutenant of the 24th Crusade "His Will Be Done"
Drakonus Laerdon PIE Inc.	Posted - 2008.06.16 12:21:00 - [8] It is obvious that the Tribals have no concept of what "war" is. War is not just random skirmishes and who can blow up the most ships. It involves the achievement of specific objectives, and it seems that this "skirmish" did not have any to begin with. It is also laughable that mere capsuleers believe that they are the only combatants in the War. Wars involve government action and officially sanctioned fleets. Neither the Republic Fleet nor the Imperial Navy have mobilized against each other yet. No formal "declaration" of war has been given to either side. This first week is merely capsuleers testing the waters. Yes, we shall be able to participate in the war and perhaps affect its outcome to some degree. But for sub-human trash to post every little "victory" they achieve in their insignificant skirmishes as if it was actually important to the outcome of the war is laughable. You are propagandists and terrorists. When the war truly begins, let us see if you have the same bravado when God's Wrath is unleashed upon your homeworlds. --------------- Non Nobis, Domine, Non Nobis, Sed nomini tuo da gloriam.
Tharrn Vigilia Valeria Expeditionary Forces	Posted - 2008.06.16 12:28:00 - [9] Originally by: Illuvian The only difference Daziel is that our militia is destroying your slaver fleets. We are winning and you are crying. Together with your post in the other thread I come to the conclusion that you are absolutely dellusional regarding how wars are won. If you believe those clashes in Kourmonen and surroundings will decide the war I'll leave you at that though. Oh, and K'S - we come for your people, too. Now recruiting!
Rodj Blake PIE Inc.	Posted - 2008.06.16 12:32:00 - [10] I'm looking forward to reading the report on the previous night's battle, that the terrorists will no doubt be posting soon. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Andreus Ixiris Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2008.06.16 12:33:00 - [11] Originally by: Daziel Iaar Maybe we should post after every major victory we achieve. Except you don't have any. ----- CEO, Mixed Metaphor Dance Commander Asuka Smith > not even goons can make 30m ISK this interesting.
Belatu Cadro Kinda'Shujaa	Posted - 2008.06.16 12:38:00 - [12] Originally by: Drakonus Laerdon It is obvious that the Tribals have no concept of what "war" is. War is not just random skirmishes and who can blow up the most ships. It involves the achievement of specific objectives, and it seems that this "skirmish" did not have any to begin with. It is also laughable that mere capsuleers believe that they are the only combatants in the War. Wars involve government action and officially sanctioned fleets. Neither the Republic Fleet nor the Imperial Navy have mobilized against each other yet. No formal "declaration" of war has been given to either side. This first week is merely capsuleers testing the waters. Yes, we shall be able to participate in the war and perhaps affect its outcome to some degree. But for sub-human trash to post every little "victory" they achieve in their insignificant skirmishes as if it was actually important to the outcome of the war is laughable. You are propagandists and terrorists. When the war truly begins, let us see if you have the same bravado when God's Wrath is unleashed upon your homeworlds. Forcing an enemy fleet to flee from Minmatar space, and preventing them from achieving the objectives they set out to achieve on the day is hardly something that has no value to the war effort, the objective of this "skirmish" as you wish to call it was to defend our space, if that is not an objective of war then nothing is. The establishment of Militias, the assignment of missions and the advertisement of military objectives is hardly a call for peace, war has been declared, if not in words then most definitely in actions, Drakonus you know us and you should know by now. We come For Our People! Yes we are testing the waters, learning to know the battlefield, gathering intelligence, forming alliances, and learning to know our fellow pilots, the report of this victory serves as much purpose as any other preparation for war, it puts courage in the hearts of our kin, it inflames the passion in our pilots and makes the call to battle ever more clearer. You may call us terrorists, the knowledge that we bring terror to your hearts makes us even more assured that we are following the right path, but you as well as any other should know the truth by now.
Andreus Ixiris Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2008.06.16 13:00:00 - [13] Originally by: Drakonus Laerdon It is obvious that the Tribals have no concept of what "war" is. War is not just random skirmishes and who can blow up the most ships. It involves the achievement of specific objectives, and it seems that this "skirmish" did not have any to begin with. It is also laughable that mere capsuleers believe that they are the only combatants in the War. Wars involve government action and officially sanctioned fleets. Neither the Republic Fleet nor the Imperial Navy have mobilized against each other yet. No formal "declaration" of war has been given to either side. This first week is merely capsuleers testing the waters. Yes, we shall be able to participate in the war and perhaps affect its outcome to some degree. But for sub-human trash to post every little "victory" they achieve in their insignificant skirmishes as if it was actually important to the outcome of the war is laughable. You are propagandists and terrorists. When the war truly begins, let us see if you have the same bravado when God's Wrath is unleashed upon your homeworlds. Any excuse to account for Amarr's inexcusable failures. ----- CEO, Mixed Metaphor Dance Commander Asuka Smith > not even goons can make 30m ISK this interesting.
Sapphrine Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.06.16 13:09:00 - [14] As a word of note, a minority of pilots within K'S may have ties to kin within ushra'khan but the vast majority of the militia group is not as closely tied to them. With regard to how wars are won, we come for our people however I don't think any of us are going to object to killing some of you murdering slaver *******s along the way. The amarrian militia fought hard but they fought with poor organisation, the amarrian paramilitary groups could do well to lend experience to their new found supporters or they risk watching whole segments of the empire be recovered by the minmatar people :)
Drakonus Laerdon PIE Inc.	Posted - 2008.06.16 13:17:00 - [15] Originally by: Belatu Cadro Forcing an enemy fleet to flee from Minmatar space, and preventing them from achieving the objectives they set out to achieve on the day is hardly something that has no value to the war effort, the objective of this "skirmish" as you wish to call it was to defend our space, if that is not an objective of war then nothing is. The establishment of Militias, the assignment of missions and the advertisement of military objectives is hardly a call for peace, war has been declared, if not in words then most definitely in actions, Drakonus you know us and you should know by now. We come For Our People! Yes we are testing the waters, learning to know the battlefield, gathering intelligence, forming alliances, and learning to know our fellow pilots, the report of this victory serves as much purpose as any other preparation for war, it puts courage in the hearts of our kin, it inflames the passion in our pilots and makes the call to battle ever more clearer. You may call us terrorists, the knowledge that we bring terror to your hearts makes us even more assured that we are following the right path, but you as well as any other should know the truth by now. Once again you show your ignorance, ape-man. Let me speak slowly so you may understand. My point was not the fact that you have "won" a fight. Both sides have done so in the week that has passed since the militias have formed. My "point" was your boasting of your little victory on IGS as if it were some sort of Huge Victory over the Empire, which it clearly was not. It was hardly newsworthy, yet in order to boost the morale of your allies you put forth this blatant propaganda. I understand your need to boost the morale of your fellow sub-humans: your inevitable defeat draws nearer with each passing day. Attempt to improve your morale all you wish: in the end, the result is what matters and God will see us emerge as the victors, as has been for the last 10,000 years. --------------- Non Nobis, Domine, Non Nobis, Sed nomini tuo da gloriam.
Tharrn Vigilia Valeria Expeditionary Forces	Posted - 2008.06.16 13:22:00 - [16] Edited by: Tharrn on 16/06/2008 13:22:36 Originally by: Sapphrine The amarrian militia fought hard but they fought with poor organisation, the amarrian paramilitary groups could do well to lend experience to their new found supporters or they risk watching whole segments of the empire be recovered by the minmatar people :) Being part of an eternal Empire we try to get things done properly and sometimes that takes a bit more time. Fast just isn't Amarrian. In the end it usually pays though - time will tell. Now recruiting!
Xennith Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.06.16 13:38:00 - [17] Originally by: Drakonus Laerdon My "point" was your boasting of your little victory on IGS as if it were some sort of Huge Victory over the Empire, which it clearly was not. It was hardly newsworthy nearly as newsworthy as "PIE fleet heads to Pator and comes away bloody after fight with EM" and yet we hear about that. Should we refrain from talking about anything that doesnt pass some threshold of "important" as defined by PIE? If you dont want to read the battlereport nobody is forcing you to do so. yet. We come for our people
Sapphrine Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.06.16 13:44:00 - [18] Originally by: Drakonus Laerdon I understand your need to boost the morale of your fellow sub-humans: your inevitable defeat draws nearer with each passing day. Attempt to improve your morale all you wish: in the end, the result is what matters and God will see us emerge as the victors, as has been for the last 10,000 years. Let me put it to you slowly you hooded fool of a man (and yes thats a metaphor as well as an actual statement). Given the amarrian paramilitaries track record of spin, deceit and lies I think you'd do well not to even try and claim that this was a mere morale booster. Sure the amarrians have won a couple battles, yet every time they've hit the TLF, they've been hit back harder still. Any day now the Amarrians will lose their first system to the minmatar forces and on that day we will celebrate the recovery of still more of our people, following the example led by the Elder fleets. Remember your statement about having led for 10,000 years in the coming months. The winds have changed, your fleets are ineffective and we fight for a just cause not for religious zealotry. We come for our people, we soar on the wings of freedom and you will feel our wrath. Some of my Minmatar brothers may not share my blood lust but i assure you, should the opportunity arise to bleed your fleets as we recover our people I will attack every time with added zeal. Ushra'Khan stand proud beside our brothers in arms in the TLF. Let me put it a way you Amarrians might understand, Aut Vincere, Aut Mori.
Rodj Blake PIE Inc.	Posted - 2008.06.16 13:57:00 - [19] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 16/06/2008 13:57:04 Originally by: Xennith Originally by: Drakonus Laerdon My "point" was your boasting of your little victory on IGS as if it were some sort of Huge Victory over the Empire, which it clearly was not. It was hardly newsworthy nearly as newsworthy as "PIE fleet heads to Pator and comes away bloody after fight with EM" and yet we hear about that. Should we refrain from talking about anything that doesnt pass some threshold of "important" as defined by PIE? If you dont want to read the battlereport nobody is forcing you to do so. yet. Actually, if you read our reports on the events of that evening, you'll see that the emphasis was on the fact that we travelled to Pator to urge the Minmatar leadership to take the path of peace, not that EM later attacked us and were defeated. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Xennith Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.06.16 14:03:00 - [20] Well Rodj, I have no desire to derail this thread talking about that fight, but I will quickly say that invading someones home system with a hostile fleet to seek "peace" is quite possibly one of the most entertaining bits of spin I have ever witnessed. We come for our people
Gaius Kador PIE Inc.	Posted - 2008.06.16 14:17:00 - [21] I suppose a congratulation on behalf of your newfound optimism is in order. ----------------------------------------------
Gankslave	Posted - 2008.06.16 14:29:00 - [22] Its a shame your CVA overlords couldnt lend a bigger fleet to help you, but then again there to busy in null sec getting fat and rich to help your 'cause'.
Vladimir Titov Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2008.06.16 14:30:00 - [23] I love the way the Amarr keep relentlessly quoting the "victory point to pilot ratio". The Minmatar have 42 systems in the theatre, and the Amarr have roughly half that. there are only so many dead space areas the tribals can capture, and that is the reason for your statistic. But please, feel free to calculate whatever propaganda ratios are needed to keep your people motivated. The last thing I want is for the amarr to hug the stations.
Rodj Blake PIE Inc.	Posted - 2008.06.16 14:30:00 - [24] Originally by: Vladimir Titov The Minmatar have 42 systems in the theatre, and the Amarr have roughly half that. It's more like two thirds. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Vladimir Titov Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2008.06.16 14:32:00 - [25] Originally by: Gankslave Its a shame your CVA overlords couldnt lend a bigger fleet to help you, but then again there to busy in null sec getting fat and rich to help your 'cause'. Oh no I did see a CVA rifter yesterday who spied on us, hiding behind Concord regulations.
Sapphrine Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.06.16 14:38:00 - [26] Edited by: Sapphrine on 16/06/2008 14:38:38 CVA aren't hiding behind regulations, if they chose to engage they could as Ushra'Khan have. Meanwhile, CVA are largely busy in Providence or repaying debts to their allies in IAC. That CVA's self proclaimed region of empire is more important to them compared to the empire losing actual systems to the Minmatar has be the topic of much amusement in the bars of NKB :) ((edit for logic))
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.16 14:40:00 - [27] Originally by: Vladimir Titov Originally by: Gankslave Its a shame your CVA overlords couldnt lend a bigger fleet to help you, but then again there to busy in null sec getting fat and rich to help your 'cause'. Oh no I did see a CVA rifter yesterday who spied on us, hiding behind Concord regulations. Wrong on both counts, but I'm sure you'll be introduced to one of our strike teams soon enough.
Xennith Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.06.16 14:45:00 - [28] Originally by: Garreck Wrong on both counts, but I'm sure you'll be introduced to one of our strike teams soon enough. i look forward to seeing your capital fleet in action again. We come for our people
Vladimir Titov Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2008.06.16 15:06:00 - [29] Originally by: Sapphrine Edited by: Sapphrine on 16/06/2008 14:38:38 CVA aren't hiding behind regulations, if they chose to engage they could as Ushra'Khan have. Meanwhile, CVA are largely busy in Providence or repaying debts to their allies in IAC. That CVA's self proclaimed region of empire is more important to them compared to the empire losing actual systems to the Minmatar has be the topic of much amusement in the bars of NKB :) ((edit for logic)) When someone shows up in a frigate, sticks to your fleet like rust on a Tempest, and then relays all your movements to the 24th, it is clear it is spying and it is enabled by Concord regulations that would punish us for removing him. I finally stepped up to the task when his presence became unbearable. If this person was not hiding behind regulations he would have used his associate in the 24th to do the spying.
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.16 15:09:00 - [30] Edited by: Garreck on 16/06/2008 15:15:00 Originally by: Vladimir Titov When someone shows up in a frigate, sticks to your fleet like rust on a Tempest, and then relays all your movements to the 24th, it is clear it is spying and it is enabled by Concord regulations that would punish us for removing him. I finally stepped up to the task when his presence became unbearable. If this person was not hiding behind regulations he would have used his associate in the 24th to do the spying. I would expect the "warriors" of the Liberation Forces would not flinch at taking necessary steps to cause harm to their enemy and remove such a threat. The CVA has been flouting Concord protocol for several days now to inflict maximum damage on the Liberation Forces.

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