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Buzzy Warstl
Huron Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.03.12 14:04:00 -
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Code would require that this exist in a version named and skinned for each race, but the stats would all be the same:
No hull bonuses.
3 Rig Slots
4 Low slots
4 Mid slots
4 High Slots
4 turret hardpoints
4 missile hardpoints
300 Hull
300 Armor
300 Shield
Base speed 290 m/s
Inertia Modifier 4.0
Warp 6.0 AU/s
Cargo 150m^3
5m^3 drone bay
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Velicitia
Open Designs
764
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Posted - 2012.03.12 14:07:00 -
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Why? |
Buzzy Warstl
Huron Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.03.12 14:10:00 -
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Why not? |
Velicitia
Open Designs
764
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Posted - 2012.03.12 14:17:00 -
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This is a terrible reason for having anything (see: Supercapitals).
(ha! beat you to this one mx!  ) |
mxzf
Shovel Bros
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Posted - 2012.03.12 17:58:00 -
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Velicitia wrote:This is a terrible reason for having anything (see: Supercapitals). (ha! beat you to this one mx! )
lol, yeah. I was out of town last week and I'm still working on getting caught up.
As Velicitia said, there's no reason for this to be in the game (and, if anything, "Why not?" is a reason not to put it in the game). There are already frigs that can fill many roles, having a hull with the intent of having no purpose for it (see your completely even fitting stats and lack of any role bonuses) is just plain pointless. |
Buzzy Warstl
Huron Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.03.12 18:21:00 -
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It has a purpose:
It is a baseline design that you add to and take away from to make specialized designs.
Drop slots, add bonuses. Drop hardpoints, add sensor strength (yeah, I forgot to put sensors on there).
Add HP, drop agility (or vice-versa).
The raw version I posted above is dull and flavorless, but is it the *correct* dull flavorlessness for a baseline? |
mxzf
Shovel Bros
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Posted - 2012.03.12 18:53:00 -
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... we can't drop slots, add bonuses, or any of that other stuff. |
Buzzy Warstl
Huron Syndicate
53
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Posted - 2012.03.12 18:57:00 -
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You can, here. I give you permission. |
Nalha Saldana
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
163
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Posted - 2012.03.12 19:36:00 -
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I bet ccp already have this internally and its currently divided into tiers, doubt they need you to make a new one ;) |
Velicitia
Open Designs
772
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Posted - 2012.03.12 19:38:00 -
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If you're looking for a REALLY generic ship, how about this (useless internet points for anyone who knows what it is):
Fitting
CPU : 80
Powergrid : 11
Calibration : 0
Low slots : 1
Med slots : 1
High slots : 2
Launcher hardpoints : 0
Turret hardpoints : 2
Rig Slots : 0
Structure
Structure hit points : 149
Capacity : 120 m3
Drone Capacity : 10 m3
Drone bandwidth : 10 Mbit/sec
Mass : 1.148.000 kg
Volume : 24.500,0 m3 (2.500,0 m3 packaged)
Inertia Multiplier : 4,04
EM Damage Resistance : 0%
Explosive Damage Resistance : 0%
Kinetic Damage Resistance : 0%
Thermal Damage Resistance : 0%
Armor
Armor hit points : 188
Armor EM Damage Resistance : 60%
Armor Explosive Damage Resistance : 10%
Armor Kinetic Damage Resistance : 35%
Armor Thermal Damage Resistance : 35%
Shield
Shield hit points : 79
Shield recharge time : 625 seconds
Shield EM Damage Resistance : 0%
Shield Explosive Damage Resistance : 50%
Shield Kinetic Damage Resistance : 40%
Shield Thermal Damage Resistance : 20%
Capacitor
Capacity : 125
Recharge time : 93,75 seconds
Targeting
Maximum targeting range : 25
Maximum locked targets : 2
Scan resolution : 475
Magnetometric sensor strength : 4 points
Signature radius : 45
Other
Max velocity : 296 m/sec
Ship warp speed : 3 AU/S
alternatively, we have enough frigs as it stands:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Ships:Frigates:Standard_Frigates:Amarr
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Ships:Frigates:Standard_Frigates:Caldari
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Ships:Frigates:Standard_Frigates:Gallente
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Ships:Frigates:Standard_Frigates:Minmatar |
Buzzy Warstl
Huron Syndicate
53
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Posted - 2012.03.12 19:45:00 -
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Pff. If we can't play amateur game designer with ship concepts here, what is this forum for? |
Kid Chaos
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.12 19:59:00 -
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Actually the part I love about this game is customization, so a super generic ship that can be anything I want kind of appeals to me.
That said, the ship specs you posted are far too good. It doesn't NEED a bonus having 4 turret slots on a gun boat is strictly superior to having 3 turret slots each with a 25% damage bonus that you had to skill up for. AND You want to give the boat 4 mids, 4 lows, and a single drone? It's too powerful, and your enemies can't even speculate what type of fit you have on it because it's infinitely variable.
While this is a silly threat because a ship like this would never make it into the game, I personally would approve of the concept if it was a
4 [Low Slots]
3 [Mid Slots]
4 [High Slots]
Ship with no bonuses, no drone bay, and only 3 Turret and 3 Missile hard points so that you'd have to split weapon systems or use a utility high slot, thus not stealing the damage role from ships that actually have damage bonuses. On the plus side, you have one more lowslot then a Rifter, for example, so if you wanted to alter this to make it a DPS frig you simply add a Gyro Stab to that slot.
To sum it up: I'm okay with the idea, your idea of balance is borked, it will never happen. |
Ines Tegator
Towels R Us
152
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Posted - 2012.03.12 22:24:00 -
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So it's really just a dev tool to use as a comparison point for the other frigates as the yget rebalanced, and should never actually be put into the game? Ok then. Good idea. If I was a dev, I'd probly do just that. We are not devs. Why's it matter to us? |
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