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CCP Spitfire C C P C C P Alliance 1377	Posted - 2012.03.13 11:38:00 - [1] - Quote EVE Online: Crucible 1.5 has been deployed. This thread will be unlocked once the game is open to the players. Crucible 1.5 introduces the new launcher for EVE Online, new rookie ship models, several new DED complexes, as well as numerous watch list and UI improvements. Full patch notes are available here. We are changing the patching process with the introduction of the new launcher. For more information please refer to this EVElopedia article and this forum thread. General feedback about Crucible can be posted to the [url=https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=80363&find=unread[/url] thread. Please use this format for reporting any issues in this thread: GÇóDescription of problem, the more verbal the better GÇóHardware info (Mac model, GPU, CPU, RAM etc.) GÇóOS version GÇóStep by step guide to what causes the issue GÇóStep by step guide to any workaround that has resolved the issue for you CCP Spitfire \| Russian Community Coordinator @ccp_spitfire

LinaSlice KANGAHobothe1 Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2012.03.13 12:24:00 - [2] - Quote Patch just ganked my client. Model Name:iMac Model Identifier:iMac11,1 Processor Name:Intel Core i7 Processor Speed:2.8 GHz Number Of Processors:1 Total Number Of Cores:4 L2 Cache (per core):256 KB L3 Cache:8 MB Memory:8 GB Processor Interconnect Speed:4.8 GT/s Boot ROM Version:IM111.0034.B02 SMC Version (system):1.54f36 Logged on for first time since update. Asked if I wanted to download patch. Downloaded fine. Asked if I was ready to quit and install. Said yes. Went to "this may take a few minutes dialog" and froze. Tried to re-launch client and it said it was broken. Tried with client copy and same exact thing happened. How should I proceed?
MAnuOmNama The Restless Masquerade Hedonistic Imperative 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 12:32:00 - [3] - Quote Launcher works fine. Seems to have patched properly, however, when I click "play" I see the splash screen for a couple of seconds and then it closes. Not error message, pop up, just closes. Hardware info: Mac book pro 15" 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 2 GB 667 MHz SDRAM MacOSX 10.6.8
DalsieQ BulletProof Monks The G0dfathers 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 12:37:00 - [4] - Quote I have the same issue... new Launcher installation came up, hung, crashed... now entire client is screwed.. Can we get a fix for this please... ASAP!!... Support just tells me to run repair.exe... on MAC OSX???
Doc Deeb ANZAC ALLIANCE Executive Outcomes 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 12:40:00 - [5] - Quote Multi client gone? used normal process of tweaking bundle name etc. but the new launcher reverts to base install copy.
Aedeal Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 23	Posted - 2012.03.13 12:52:00 - [6] - Quote Potential permissions error: http://pastebin.com/8JsSQVFu
K Anasazi Murientor Tribe 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 12:58:00 - [7] - Quote Same issue as post #3 IMac Mac OS X (v10.5.8) cheers, K
LinaSlice KANGAHobothe1 Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2012.03.13 13:06:00 - [8] - Quote Another thread was started same issue as post #2.
Debir Achen EVE University Ivy League 18	Posted - 2012.03.13 13:07:00 - [9] - Quote Mac OS X: 10.6.8 Model Name:MacBook Pro Model Identifier:MacBookPro5,2 Processor Name:Intel Core 2 Duo Processor Speed:2.66 GHz Number Of Processors:1 Total Number Of Cores:2 L2 Cache:6 MB Memory:8 GB Bus Speed:1.07 GHz NVIdia 9600 GM processor Docked in Korama III-10, attempt to speak to R&D agent. 1st attempt: client freeze followed by exception when I said "request mission" Subsequent attempts: agent shows as "offered" in agent view, client freeze when I attempt to open agent conversation window. Background is drawn but window is not rendered. Have not yet tried with other agents (3 crashes is enough for one night). Space, inventory, industry, wallet, skill queue interfaces all seem to be working correctly.
DalsieQ BulletProof Monks The G0dfathers 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 13:17:00 - [10] - Quote I did a reinstall... still, Launcher install crashes on installation, mess's up entire client... so now I can't play eve till CCP decides to answer my petitions to which I have requested updates numerous times... no response. Pointless in paying for a game that doesn't work.
Tunk Rinah Mong's Marauders 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 13:19:00 - [11] - Quote When is starts to open the new patcher it crashes and destroys the client requiring me to redownload it. Really need this fixed fast... MacBook Pro 4GB RAM 2.4 GHz Intel Duo Core Mac OS 10.6.8 I open the client, it comes to the main menu, says the patcher is ready. Closes the client and beings to opent the patcher. The patcher beings to load but hasn't fully opened yet. It crashes and says its not responding.
LinaSlice KANGAHobothe1 Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2012.03.13 13:24:00 - [12] - Quote Doc Deeb wrote: Multi client gone? used normal process of tweaking bundle name etc. but the new launcher reverts to base install copy. Figure out workaround yet? This is a big problem.
Volstruis Mise en Abyme 5	Posted - 2012.03.13 13:25:00 - [13] - Quote you can't open the application because it may be damaged or incomplete ^^ 10.6.8
Trebor Daehdoow Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 1949	Posted - 2012.03.13 13:26:00 - [14] - Quote No problems but multiboxing instructions needed to be changed. I have updated the wiki page. The Polls are open! Click here to vote for Trebor -áMy Election Thread Voter's Guide
DalsieQ BulletProof Monks The G0dfathers 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 13:31:00 - [15] - Quote LinaSlice KANGAHobothe1 wrote: Doc Deeb wrote: Multi client gone? used normal process of tweaking bundle name etc. but the new launcher reverts to base install copy. Figure out workaround yet? This is a big problem. no fix yet for this disaster... most of my corpies are offline due to the Launcher installer crashing. CCP's not responding... that's customer service for you,...
MAnuOmNama The Restless Masquerade Hedonistic Imperative 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 13:41:00 - [16] - Quote Meh. Good enough reason to go and lie in the sun, but I would like this to be fixed by the time I come back.
SPACCO TUTTO DIMO-FAMO 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 13:52:00 - [17] - Quote At the first attempt on the client 1 I waited a while but after I forcibly closed and the client is broken, the second try with 2 client I left to run the installer and the end was able to update the client. Now I'm waiting to download the patch and I hope that works, but the first client is gone. now how do I reinstall multiple clients if I have no instructions on that?
Linneth Aele Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 15:19:00 - [18] - Quote Same problem as #2. Both of my clients are now broken. Do I really have to download the entire client again? I will be angry if that is so.
Enrick Frostbite Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 15:33:00 - [19] - Quote Post patch for me, its a massive performance drop. From smooth to slow and choppy. Ran my client on 1280x800 Med and High settings before, now even placing settings on Low, its still slow and choppy. Tried restarting the client, and restarting my computer to no effect. Macbook 2011 2.4Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo 2GB 1067 MHz DDR3 NVIDIA GeForce 320M 256MB 10.6.8
The Gonif Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 5	Posted - 2012.03.13 15:45:00 - [20] - Quote - Launcher crashed at end of download - Restarting shows "client is ready" and the thermometer progress bar all yellow - Pressing Play shows splash screen for 5 seconds then... nothing MacbookPro 17" 3.06Ghz Core 2 Duo 8GB RAM OS X 1.6.8
grim8634 Per.ly The 20 Minuters 1	Posted - 2012.03.13 16:05:00 - [21] - Quote LinaSlice KANGAHobothe1 wrote: Patch just ganked my client. Model Name:iMac Model Identifier:iMac11,1 Processor Name:Intel Core i7 Processor Speed:2.8 GHz Number Of Processors:1 Total Number Of Cores:4 L2 Cache (per core):256 KB L3 Cache:8 MB Memory:8 GB Processor Interconnect Speed:4.8 GT/s Boot ROM Version:IM111.0034.B02 SMC Version (system):1.54f36 Logged on for first time since update. Asked if I wanted to download patch. Downloaded fine. Asked if I was ready to quit and install. Said yes. Went to "this may take a few minutes dialog" and froze. Tried to re-launch client and it said it was broken. Tried with client copy and same exact thing happened. How should I proceed? Exactly the same for me. It appears to have moved the installation inside another package also call Eve Online/Resources. When you move that back to the applications directory, it asks you to patch again. Rinse and repeat.
Maktheros Vengance Inc. 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 17:21:00 - [22] - Quote Grim, can you please clarify more specifically. I've tried moving the tgApplyPatch.app file around and have had no success with it. Currently 10+ more hours to d/l the client .dmg. That's what I get for "cleaning" out my HD a couple weeks ago. Largely, I have not had as many problems with the mac client as I've read from others on here, so I consider myself lucky. But today I had the same problem as post #2 where the patch d/l'd fine, but it wouldn't install and now my client is broke. I knew I should have put a longer skill in the queue before bed last night.......
Xander Blackwell Blackwell Industries IMPERIAL LEGI0N 2	Posted - 2012.03.13 18:27:00 - [23] - Quote same problem as all the others. so reinstalled client and after 7 hours it STILL DOESNT WORK. Plus no response from CCP. THIS IS A JOKE. CCP SORT YOUR LIVES OUT. AT LEAST POST A MESSAGE ADMITTING YOU MESSED UP AND YOUR WORKING TO FIX IT. FOR ALL I KNOW YOUR ALL IN THE LOOS TAKING "sorry" AND LIVING THE ROCK AND ROLL LIFESTYLE OF A CCP DEV IN ICELAND. p.s please stop your 24/7 rave and fix this. EDIT- seriously a drug ref was edited.... is this game pg?
Rajji Jones Southern Cross Trilogy Flying Dangerous 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 18:50:00 - [24] - Quote I'm having the same issue as #19. 13" Macbook, 2.53 GHz Core 2 Duo Nvida GeForce 9400M Post patch my frame rate is down from 15-30 FPS to 4 FPS. Unusably slow. Everything is just clunky slow and horrible now.
Renix Xerar The Imperial Fedaykin 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 19:14:00 - [25] - Quote Rajji Jones wrote: I'm having the same issue as #19. 13" Macbook, 2.53 GHz Core 2 Duo Nvida GeForce 9400M Post patch my frame rate is down from 15-30 FPS to 4 FPS. Unusably slow. Everything is just clunky slow and horrible now. Same issue here as these two. Everything seems to respond at lot slower, graphics aren't rendering in a reasonable amount of time and my frame rate has gone down. It seems like it's drawing more memory than it needs to from the GPU. 2011 Mac Mini 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo NVIDIA GeForce 320M 256mb 4GB RAM
Nelyn Amarrian Retribution Amarr 7th Fleet 1	Posted - 2012.03.13 19:22:00 - [26] - Quote Rajji Jones wrote: I'm having the same issue as #19. 13" Macbook, 2.53 GHz Core 2 Duo Nvida GeForce 9400M Post patch my frame rate is down from 15-30 FPS to 4 FPS. Unusably slow. Everything is just clunky slow and horrible now. Same here, huge FPS drop, was about 50 in space and now it's like 20-25, 15 on an empty gateGÇª Thats in windowed mode, if I switch to fullscreen, it's even worse. MacBook Pro5,3 2.66Ghz, GeForce 9600M GT, 8GB Ram, OS X 10.7.3
Syla Quell Ostensibly Orthogonal 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 19:36:00 - [27] - Quote Launcher does not install. Various errors in system.log (will provide upon request, but this appears to be highly reproducible). MacBookPro6,2 (Core i7, Nvidia GT 330M, 4GB) OS X 10.7.3 What causes the issue: attempting to update to 1.5 Workaround: None edit: One of my alts' skill queues just stopped. Please fix ASAP! (Or give me some SP.)
Doc Deeb ANZAC ALLIANCE Executive Outcomes 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 19:43:00 - [28] - Quote Trebor Daehdoow wrote: No problems but multiboxing instructions needed to be changed. I have updated the wiki page. What was changed? I use the "Duplicating EVE Online.app" method. From what I can see there's a different set of references to the prefs folder (CFBundleDisplayName, CFBundleName etc) and the PrefsFolderName has been removed. I dont see anything like that on the wiki. Changing the CF related bundle names and readding the PrefsFolderName doesnt work. Both clients still point to the same prefs. I'm guessing this is fundamental to all 3 styles of running duplicate instances of Eve. Whether it be duplicating the client, running two via the command line or using the symbolic links all of them need separate prefs.
Glarbl Blarbl Orion-Glarbl Mining Bureau 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 19:45:00 - [29] - Quote Character and Agent portraits still don't always display... imac 7,1 core 2 duo 2.4 GHz 1gb ram RadeonHD 2600 OSX 10.6.8
Trebor Daehdoow Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 1950	Posted - 2012.03.13 20:25:00 - [30] - Quote Doc Deeb wrote: Trebor Daehdoow wrote: No problems but multiboxing instructions needed to be changed. I have updated the wiki page. What was changed? I use the "Duplicating EVE Online.app" method. From what I can see there's a different set of references to the prefs folder (CFBundleDisplayName, CFBundleName etc) and the PrefsFolderName has been removed. I dont see anything like that on the wiki. Changing the CF related bundle names and readding the PrefsFolderName doesnt work. Both clients still point to the same prefs. I'm guessing this is fundamental to all 3 styles of running duplicate instances of Eve. Whether it be duplicating the client, running two via the command line or using the symbolic links all of them need separate prefs. Please re-read the instructions carefully, and follow them step-by-step. You are trying to edit the wrong info.plist -- the one you see first is the one for the launcher. You need to dig a little deeper to find the embedded EVE Online client app and edit the info.plist that is contained inside that. The Polls are open! Click here to vote for Trebor -áMy Election Thread Voter's Guide
Sellsoul Antixian WRATHCHILD. 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 20:41:00 - [31] - Quote 10 5 8 ran updater, when loading launcher, went unresponsive, forcequit, it killed client. on second client, ran updater, while loading launcher once again unresponsive, but i left it. the client just vanished like i quit it but upon reopening the launcher was there. it worked. so now i have a client.. i went in game and the graphical f u c k e r y commensed.. my ship is not visable, other ships look screwed.. go to photobucket and search for user name Antixian for screenshots. the stations have now started to appear but docked is a joke theres nothing there but a mess.. CCP i love this game.. but why do you release broken client updates do you not have people with macs in your staff that test these things before you release them? on the upside my FPS is up. downside its because the games screwed. anyone else having graphical problems? heres the photobucket account http://s1167.photobucket.com/profile/Antixian please let me know..
Vincent Athena V.I.C.E. Comic Mischief 548	Posted - 2012.03.13 21:06:00 - [32] - Quote The first attempt to run the launcher resulted in a crash part way through the launcher's update process. With hope in my heart I ran it again and it worked. The launcher updated, the game ran, worked fine, looks fine. Tried a mission: Zor once again died, no issues. I found the old clone maker did not work (I expected that), tossed it and got the new one. Made the clones and they all work. I am running for the CSM. Take a look at my ideas. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/
i-treq The Oasis Group Combat Mining and Logistics 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 21:19:00 - [33] - Quote Massive performance drop imac 2010. Something has changed.
Rajji Jones Southern Cross Trilogy Flying Dangerous 1	Posted - 2012.03.13 22:44:00 - [34] - Quote Graphics performance on my desktop machine has been annihilated by the update also. Mac Pro OS X 10.6.8 dual 2.8 GHz quad core xeon 14 Gb RAM ATI Radeon HD 5770 Used to get 60 FPS, now I get 5.3 Both my Macs are unplayable.
Don Temujin Mothers of EVE 0	Posted - 2012.03.13 22:52:00 - [35] - Quote Trebor Daehdoow wrote: Trebor Daehdoow wrote: No problems but multiboxing instructions needed to be changed. I have updated the wiki page. Please re-read the instructions carefully, and follow them step-by-step. You are trying to edit the wrong info.plist -- the one you see first is the one for the launcher. You need to dig a little deeper to find the embedded EVE Online client app and edit the info.plist that is contained inside that. Found it. I had the same problem, then out of curiosity I checked the main.scpt in Clonemaker, where it's (rightly) pointed: Quote: -- cider needs to be copied, not linked, otherwise the Finder gets confused I replaced the MacOS/ symlink to "/Applications/EVE\ Online.app/Contents/Resources/EVE\ Online.app/Contents/MacOS" in my "/Applications/EVE\ Clone.app/Contents/Resources/EVE\ Online.app/Contents" with a copy of the relevant MacOS folder, thus copying cider into my EVE Clone sub-path. It seems to work fine so far. Out of curiosity, I then tried to create another Clone using Transgaming's Clonemaker, and found it produces a significantly different result, compared to the Duplicating EVE Online.app with Symlinks instructions: GÇó Clonemaker will create a "shallow path" clone, with the Contents subdirectory you'd expect to find at: /Applications/EVE\ Online\ Clone.app/Contents/Resources/EVE\ Online.app/Contents instead lodged at: /Applications/EVE\ Online\ Clone.app/Contents Nested inside, Frameworks/, PkgInfo, Resources/ and Version.plist are indeed symlinks (and point where you'd expect them to), while Info.plist and MacOS/ (with cider inside) are actual copies. Not sure which option is the most efficient/foolproof, between the Clonemaker routine or a slightly modified version of the (manual) Duplicating EVE Online.app with Symlinks instructions present in the wiki, but it seems worth deciding, if only for consistency's sake, and to maybe avoid further confusion ? "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á [H.L. Mencken.]
Matavhe Rems Gun Runners Inc SOLAR WING 0	Posted - 2012.03.14 01:30:00 - [36] - Quote My client just disappeared and the "ganker" I mean "launcher" tried to dl the full client. Is this your idea of a "feature" ready to deploy? Fortunately I have full backups. CCP fix this! Mac Pro 2 x 2.66GHz 8GB RAM running 10.6.8
Even So NightFall Division 1	Posted - 2012.03.14 01:34:00 - [37] - Quote CCP Spitfire wrote: EVE Online: Crucible 1.5 has been successfully deployed. Not! Not sure how they go about testing the mac client but they need to do it differently as what they are doing is not working. On my 3 year old macbook pro with lion, which was working great last night, the launcher is broken and I can't even start the game. On my roommates 3 day old macbook pro, which was working great last night, now has a framerate of about 1-10 or so making it impossible to walk in stations. And when he tried to do a mission it froze twice in 5 min, basically making it unplayable. The only good thing is that my alienware gaming desktop seems to handle it just fine, but I still had the restart the client 3 times to do all the patches? So what is the point of the launcher again? At this point they need to rollback the client immediately and stop trying to fix what aint broken, especially for the mac. I don't care about all the technical reasons or excused, the result is failure.
Ricfire Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.03.14 01:46:00 - [38] - Quote Crucible 1.5 update dropped my frame rate to unplayable. OS X 10.6.7 Model Name:MacBook Pro Model Identifier:MacBookPro4,1 Processor Name:Intel Core 2 Duo Processor Speed:2.5 GHz Number Of Processors:1 Total Number Of Cores:2 L2 Cache:6 MB Memory:4 GB Bus Speed:800 MHz NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT: Chipset Model:GeForce 8600M GT Type:GPU Bus:PCIe PCIe Lane Width:x16 VRAM (Total):512 MB Vendor:NVIDIA (0x10de) Device ID:0x0407 Revision ID:0x00a1 ROM Revision:3212
Matavhe Rems Gun Runners Inc SOLAR WING 0	Posted - 2012.03.14 01:59:00 - [39] - Quote Even So wrote: CCP Spitfire wrote: EVE Online: Crucible 1.5 has been successfully deployed. Not! Not sure how they go about testing the mac client but they need to do it differently as what they are doing is not working. On my 3 year old macbook pro with lion, which was working great last night, the launcher is broken and I can't even start the game. On my roommates 3 day old macbook pro, which was working great last night, now has a framerate of about 1-10 or so making it impossible to walk in stations. And when he tried to do a mission it froze twice in 5 min, basically making it unplayable. The only good thing is that my alienware gaming desktop seems to handle it just fine, but I still had to restart the client 3 times to do all the patches? So what is the point of the launcher again? At this point they need to rollback the client immediately and stop trying to fix what aint broken, especially for the mac. I don't care about all the technical reasons or excuses, the result is failure. I agree. Total failure is not a "successful deployment" to anyone except morons. Roll it back. Yesterday's client worked.
Eleftheros State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.03.14 02:27:00 - [40] - Quote Matavhe Rems wrote: Even So wrote: CCP Spitfire wrote: EVE Online: Crucible 1.5 has been successfully deployed. Not! Not sure how they go about testing the mac client but they need to do it differently as what they are doing is not working. On my 3 year old macbook pro with lion, which was working great last night, the launcher is broken and I can't even start the game. On my roommates 3 day old macbook pro, which was working great last night, now has a framerate of about 1-10 or so making it impossible to walk in stations. And when he tried to do a mission it froze twice in 5 min, basically making it unplayable. The only good thing is that my alienware gaming desktop seems to handle it just fine, but I still had to restart the client 3 times to do all the patches? So what is the point of the launcher again? At this point they need to rollback the client immediately and stop trying to fix what aint broken, especially for the mac. I don't care about all the technical reasons or excuses, the result is failure. I agree. Total failure is not a "successful deployment" to anyone except morons. Roll it back. Yesterday's client worked. I would also say Total failure is an overstatement, since I for one am running two clients just fine. Either way, launching a second client now works via launching the EVE Online app again after loading the first client. It will bring you back to the launcher, if you hit Play again, it will launch a second instance of the game. Probably not as quick and smooth as the clone method, but it's finally a built in feature for the Mac. The Launcher is a bit slow, it could use some love to ensure it loads and gives you access to the game faster. I'm playing on a 2.93 GHz Quadcore i7 iMac and it just seems there is some wasted time querying the server for updates. Also, a possible crash, the game has hung for me twice when I've tried changing chat channels. I'll keep playing and hopefully the issue doesn't persist. Model Name:iMac Model Identifier:iMac11,3 Processor Name:Intel Core i7 Processor Speed:2.93 GHz Number of Processors:1 Total Number of Cores:4 L2 Cache (per Core):256 KB L3 Cache:8 MB Memory:12 GB Processor Interconnect Speed:4.8 GT/s Boot ROM Version:IM112.0057.B01 SMC Version (system):1.59f2 OS: 10.7.3
Even So NightFall Division 1	Posted - 2012.03.14 02:55:00 - [41] - Quote Quote: I would also say Total failure is an overstatement, since I for one am running two clients just fine. Either way, launching a second client now works via launching the EVE Online app again after loading the first client. It will bring you back to the launcher, if you hit Play again, it will launch a second instance of the game. Probably not as quick and smooth as the clone method, but it's finally a built in feature for the Mac. The Launcher is a bit slow, it could use some love to ensure it loads and gives you access to the game faster. I'm playing on a 2.93 GHz Quadcore i7 iMac and it just seems there is some wasted time querying the server for updates. Also, a possible crash, the game has hung for me twice when I've tried changing chat channels. I'll keep playing and hopefully the issue doesn't persist. That is nice, love your stats, glad you are able to play. You might be able to run 2 clients on one comp but here is what matters --->both me and my roommate can't run our single clients on our computers when yesterday eve worked fine on both computers. NOTHING ELSE MATTERS. We are not trying to be fancy, eve currently won't work on our Macbook Pros. If it were not for our alienware comp we would not be able to play eve at all. Edit: Just noticed on the windows version, you no longer can right click and set destination/warp to location in conversation with agent. Not sure if that was fail or deliberate action but I hate it
Matavhe Rems Gun Runners Inc SOLAR WING 0	Posted - 2012.03.14 02:58:00 - [42] - Quote Well, I got Eve, 1 client, running on my mac pro. But my 2007 iMac, 10.5.8, which ran just fine yesterday, will not run at all. The launcher starts up, I click play, I get the crucible splash screen, and after a few seconds it quits. Just gone. Will not run at all.
Aidan Padecain Almsivi Syndicate 0	Posted - 2012.03.14 03:15:00 - [43] - Quote Since newest update, frame-rate has been drawn and quartered - can't even break 12 fps even on lowest settings. Now it often drops to around 8 fps if there are any celestial objects on grid. Clouds seem to be the biggest drain (what is with that?) Before 1.5 frame-rate at 30 to 55 fps (depending on graphics settings). Model Name:iMac Model Identifier:iMac8,1 Processor Name:Intel Core 2 Duo Processor Speed:3.06 GHz Number Of Processors:1 Total Number Of Cores:2 L2 Cache:6 MB Memory:4 GB Bus Speed:1.07 GHz Chipset Model:NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GS (512 MB VRAM)
PainterJ The Flying Tigers Intrepid Crossing 0	Posted - 2012.03.14 03:48:00 - [44] - Quote Simply put- i have the same result as #42. (Matavhe Rems) I start the launcher. it says client is ready. The yellow loading bar is all the way to the right. I hit play. The EVE splash screen comes up, i hold my breath a few seconds, then the EVE client icon in the dock disappears. (the client/launcher shuts down) It's not like I'm missing massive invasion and station takeover with fantastically huge fleets or anything...(I am). Get this fixed (please). Version 10.6.8 2.4 GHz intel Core 2 Duo 4 GB Ram (yeah, it's an older machine. but I was flying fine in fleets yesterday... please fix it).
Deise Koraka Caldari Provisions Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.03.14 04:06:00 - [45] - Quote Rajji Jones wrote: I'm having the same issue as #19. 13" Macbook, 2.53 GHz Core 2 Duo Nvida GeForce 9400M Post patch my frame rate is down from 15-30 FPS to 4 FPS. Unusably slow. Everything is just clunky slow and horrible now. I'm getting this as well, I lost half my frames, Incursion fleets are running at 10fps....and drop to 4-5 if contested. Even with everything set to low, I still get worse performance post patch than high settings pre patch.
Even So NightFall Division 1	Posted - 2012.03.14 04:17:00 - [46] - Quote Ok, We managed to get eve working on my roommates computer in a stable fashion with all settings to minimum except resolution and then airdropped the client from his mac to mine so now both macs work and are playable with eve. The problem is that I had to copy the original client from within the patched copy and and make a backup copy so I could mess around with trying different workarounds. What I found what works......... having an unpatched copy and trying several times with a fresh unpatched copy until it patches correctly with the launcher. I did this unitll it worked the 4th time. The manual patch would not even load by the way. And no, it was not my connection since we tried first at the college internet, then later at home with our dsl. Fail update
Huri-Khan Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.03.14 05:40:00 - [47] - Quote I'll repost this from general issues and feedback thread. iMac 27" early 2011, Core i5 2.7GHz, 12GB RAM, Radeon HD6770 512 MB. FPS dropped quite noticeably. Can't tell exactly what the FPS was before the update (because I didn't care), but feels like it was 60-sh. I used a bit lower then the default graphic settings and never had problems. Even though I've set settings to a minimum, I got 25-30 FPS inside a station (hangar), near a station and in asteroid belt. It's 55-60 when in warp or there's nothing in view like a station or a planet. Cant even imagine how bad it will be in a battle with a few dozen ships. Changing Present Interval, resource cache enabled doesn't make any difference. There is even absolutely no difference between minimum 1024x768 and maximum 2560x1440. I got the same low FPS. Cache reset doesn't help either This is very sad and a potential deal breaker for me. And I hope this can be fixed.
Ryelek d'Entari University of Caille Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.03.14 05:56:00 - [48] - Quote FPS slowdown here as well, though not as drastic as some report Model Name:iMac Model Identifier:iMac10,1 Processor Name:Intel Core 2 Duo Processor Speed:3.06 GHz Number of Processors:1 Total Number of Cores:2 L2 Cache:3 MB Memory:8 GB Bus Speed:1.07 GHz Boot ROM Version:IM101.00CC.B00 SMC Version (system):1.53f13 ATI Radeon HD 4670 Chipset Model:ATI Radeon HD 467 Type:GPU Bus:PCIe PCIe Lane Width:x16 VRAM (Total):256 MB Vendor:ATI (0x1002) Device ID:0x9488 Revision ID:0x0000 ROM Revision:113-B8030F-260 EFI Driver Version:01.00.383 Native resolution: 2560 x 1440 Graphics settings: Display: 1920x1080 UI scaling: 100% Use Multithreaded OpenGL (true) Present Interval (Interval One) Effects: All ON Miscellaneous" Use LOD ON Sun Occlusion ON Advanced Camera Menu OFF Graphic Content Settings: Resource Cache Enabled (true) HDR enabled (false) Anti-Aliasing (low) Post Processing (high) Shader Quality (medium) Texture Quality (medium) LOD Quality (medium) Shadow Quality (high) These settings, prior to Crucible 1.5, produced consistent frame rate in the 25-40 range. Now post-1.5 it's in the 12-20 zone (fullscreen), but interestingly enough, gets much faster in windowed mode (holds steady @ 30 fps). Setting to 'interval immediate' seemed to help the FPS (~38) when in windowed mode only. As an experiment, I changed to native resolution (2560 x 1440) and turned off anti-aliasing. Fullscreen mode: 15 fps, windowed (which takes up the whole screen), 30fps. That's a bit befuddling. Looks like someone broke the fullscreen renderer. (also, the Reset Graphics Settings button really needs an "are you sure" prompt!)
Vermifuge Shot-To-Hel Dragoons. 0	Posted - 2012.03.14 06:56:00 - [49] - Quote I have a 2011 Macbook pro and prior to Crucible 1.5 I averaged a frame rate in the 55-60 range.. Now i'm getting about 40 FPS. A noticeable drop in performance and serious lag when loading UI elements. Captains Quarters has dropped from a tolerable 25 FPS to 7 FPS. 7 FPS!!!! Not that I used Captains Quarters... Hardware Overview: Model Name:MacBook Pro Model Identifier:MacBookPro8,2 Processor Name:Intel Core i7 Processor Speed:2.4 GHz Number of Processors:1 Total Number of Cores:4 L2 Cache (per Core):256 KB L3 Cache:6 MB Memory:16 GB AMD Radeon HD 6770M: Chipset Model:AMD Radeon HD 6770M Type:GPU Bus:PCIe PCIe Lane Width:x8 VRAM (Total):1024 MB Vendor:ATI (0x1002) Device ID:0x6740 Revision ID:0x0000 ROM Revision:113-C0170L-573 gMux Version:1.9.23 EFI Driver Version:01.00.573
ARCHTURU5 Irken Invader 0	Posted - 2012.03.14 07:51:00 - [50] - Quote Client installed and launched fine. Patches downloaded with no problems. Launch the client and find that my frame rate has bottomed out. 2010 mac mini 2.4 GHz Intel core 2 duo 8GB 1067 MHz DDR3 (2x4GB) 3 MB L2 cache 1.07 GHz bus speed NVIDIA GeForce 320M 256 MB Mac OS X 10.6.8 "Mac Increased stability of the MAC client at higher resolutions." ^^quote taken from the patch notes for crucible 1.5 funny, but despite the mac client being broken for the time being I still think I should take a second to compliment ccp on their stability and performance improvements for the mac client over the past six or eight months. The graphics have gone from mediocre to awesome while simultaneously the performance of the client has gotten noticeable better with the past several patches. when I started playing this game I was pretty skeptical about it but the past six months have made me fall in love. just do me a favor and polish up this current version so i can undock.
Doc Deeb ANZAC ALLIANCE Executive Outcomes 0	Posted - 2012.03.14 09:40:00 - [51] - Quote Trebor Daehdoow wrote: Doc Deeb wrote: Trebor Daehdoow wrote: No problems but multiboxing instructions needed to be changed. I have updated the wiki page. What was changed? I use the "Duplicating EVE Online.app" method. From what I can see there's a different set of references to the prefs folder (CFBundleDisplayName, CFBundleName etc) and the PrefsFolderName has been removed. I dont see anything like that on the wiki. Changing the CF related bundle names and readding the PrefsFolderName doesnt work. Both clients still point to the same prefs. I'm guessing this is fundamental to all 3 styles of running duplicate instances of Eve. Whether it be duplicating the client, running two via the command line or using the symbolic links all of them need separate prefs. Please re-read the instructions carefully, and follow them step-by-step. You are trying to edit the wrong info.plist -- the one you see first is the one for the launcher. You need to dig a little deeper to find the embedded EVE Online client app and edit the info.plist that is contained inside that. Many thanks, 2 of my 3 accts running now. One has all the crashing symptoms being shown elsewhere in this thread. I noticed that if I create a new prefs folder it starts so right now I'm restoring the folder pre-patch to see if it works after another profile update.
C'alvez Toxic-Waste-Corporation 0	Posted - 2012.03.14 13:04:00 - [52] - Quote Basically the same problems as mentioned above - if not worse EVE refused to work after first update. OK, no big prob - try again. Tried again: same. argh Privat workaround: re-download complete client package. (Rationale: should be the new version/build). Alas, EVE-homepage was not reachable yesterday. argh-argh Tried today: yoohoo! Homepage online again. Started above-mentioned private workaround, i.e. complete client download. Started this at 11:00 GMT (which was dumb, see below). Download took 2+ hrs (my connection isn't the fastest), then started installation. Result? Client launcher doesn't start and tells me "No connection could be made to the content server. Please make sure your internet connection is up and restart the launcher." Tell you what? I checked: internet was up! (Of course it was, I downloaded the package minutes before). I restartet the launcher: response was: "No connection could be made to the content server. Please make sure your internet connection is up and restart the launcher. Just to be on the save side, I rechecked my connection (still up and running) and re-restarted the launcher. Response: "No connection could be made... Last ditch: try the windows machine. Doing so, I learned that a new build has been released. Unnecessary to mention it wasn't the one that took me more than 2 hours to download. ARE YOU KIDDING? A new build a day after a (then-already-not-so-new) new build had been released "Sloppy programming" would be the euphemism of the week /me is not amused Just for the records: brandnew MacBook Pro, i5, 4 GB RAM, Intel chipset, Lion -- (unnecessary to mention that everthing was fine before you guys messed it up)
Vincent Athena V.I.C.E. Comic Mischief 549	Posted - 2012.03.14 15:55:00 - [53] - Quote On the surface this seems to be a minor problem, but I think it indicates a memory leak which can cause all sorts of havoc. Go look at a CONCORD billboard from behind. I see colored static when on medium or high shader settings, and a rolling shadow of a female avatar when on low shader settings. The view from in front is fine, the Pax add. I am running for the CSM. Take a look at my ideas. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/
Lodurr The Dark Divinity 0	Posted - 2012.03.14 18:44:00 - [54] - Quote Tried to patch last night. Not sure what happened but I am now getting the following when trying to start the clie OS X 10.7. Well I guess I can post it here since it has XML tags with are mistaken for HTML Traceback (most recent call last): File "/Applications/EVE Online.app/Contents/Resources/launcher.py", line 36, in (module) File "lib/initialization.pyc", line 94, in StartLauncher File "localization/__init__.pyc", line 52, in LoadLocalizationData File "localization/localization.pyc", line 44, in __init__ File "localization/localization.pyc", line 70, in _LoadLanguageData File "xml/dom/minidom.pyc", line 1914, in parse File "xml/dom/expatbuilder.pyc", line 924, in parse File "xml/dom/expatbuilder.pyc", line 211, in parseFile Tried to download the installer and start over but the DMG is not valid
Stavos Kelley Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.03.14 20:54:00 - [55] - Quote Just started playing Eve for the first time 3 days ago with the 21day trial, just purchased the full version right now. The game ran great on my 2011 MacBook Pro with 4gb. Today I updated like everyone else and a popup on the login screen says "patched downloaded, click okay to install" I do so and the game quits and I see a brief file moving progress bar then nothing. Open the game again and it repeats. Re-downloaded the entire latest client of 5.2gb and now I get "exception" No connection could be made to the content server. Please maker sure that your internet connection is up and restart the launcher." and yes I have a connection to the internet. So thanks for this awesome update on my very first full game purchase. Now I regret spending $19 on this. Model Name:MacBook Pro Processor Name:Intel Core i7 Processor Speed:2.4 GHz Number of Processors:1 Total Number of Cores:4 L2 Cache (per Core):256 KB L3 Cache:6 MB Memory:4 GB OS: OSX 10.7.3 -Stavos
C'alvez Toxic-Waste-Corporation 0	Posted - 2012.03.14 21:10:00 - [56] - Quote Stavos Kelley wrote: Just started playing Eve for the first time 3 days ago with the 21day trial, just purchased the full version right now. The game ran great on my 2011 MacBook Pro with 4gb. Today I updated like everyone else and a popup on the login screen says "patched downloaded, click okay to install" I do so and the game quits and I see a brief file moving progress bar then nothing. Open the game again and it repeats. Re-downloaded the entire latest client of 5.2gb and now I get "exception" No connection could be made to the content server. Please maker sure that your internet connection is up and restart the launcher." and yes I have a connection to the internet. So thanks for this awesome update on my very first full game purchase. Now I regret spending $19 on this. Model Name:MacBook Pro Processor Name:Intel Core i7 Processor Speed:2.4 GHz Number of Processors:1 Total Number of Cores:4 L2 Cache (per Core):256 KB L3 Cache:6 MB Memory:4 GB OS: OSX 10.7.3 -Stavos Yep. Same here. Still not working despite the fact that I downloaded (again!!! - cf. my earlier post) the newest build. As a Mac user I'm used to easy installment of new programs, like download a dmg-file, unpack, drag into application folder and go. Not here, not with the oh-so-highly praised new launcher. What did you guy do? Certainly not a thorough testing before releasing this crap. Sort this out. STAT! Preferrably doing a complete roll-back. For the records: the crappy launcher thingy works on my windows machine ATM crosses fingers. NTL I wan't to have EVE running on my Mac.
Glarbl Blarbl Orion-Glarbl Mining Bureau 1	Posted - 2012.03.14 21:11:00 - [57] - Quote Ok, so yesterday eve ran on my borrowed iMac albeit a bit slowly -- was able to get two clients running together but not without lag to the point of unusability. My macbook would download the patch happily but never install it. or something. I have posted the specs for both in earlier/other threads. I tried reinstalling the entire client like 3 or 4 times on the macbook yesterday, deleting my eve library directories each time (wth, gonna have to redo settings anyway)... No joy. tried deleting common.ini buried deep in the app tree.. Got up today and tried updating the client again on the macbook and it didn't work. So another round of deleting and re-copying had me downloading 344784-350962.. Which failed. "Client update was unsuccessful" Which is the same thing it said on the iMac a minute ago. So I have 3 accounts i pay for that I can't play on any of the computers here. I'd be really sad if I couldn't play anymore because I can't mine enough to manufacture my way to 3 plexes... I see in the general thread (god how i hate scouring webforums, hate it SO MUCH) that there is supposed to be a 1.06 version of the launcher. Both macs say they're running 1.04. Is that the problem? Cyrillic users and windows users got a frontpage post and/or a tweet for their workarounds, is there one for the mac that I missed in the eight million posts in the main crucible 1.5 feedback thread? http://pastebin.com/1QqAUvJQ has the launcher log from the macbook, and http://pastebin.com/6XBZ0Z8v has some errors found in the syslog. I'd really like to be reassured that the mac community here hasn't been forgotten... In the meantime I'm really glad I picked up mass effect 3 the other day.
Vincent Athena V.I.C.E. Comic Mischief 551	Posted - 2012.03.14 21:45:00 - [58] - Quote Stavos Kelley wrote: ............. I get "exception" No connection could be made to the content server. Please maker sure that your internet connection is up and restart the launcher." and yes I have a connection to the internet................. -Stavos I got that once and just re-booted the computer. That made the issue go away. I am running for the CSM. Take a look at my ideas. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/
Glarbl Blarbl Orion-Glarbl Mining Bureau 1	Posted - 2012.03.14 21:54:00 - [59] - Quote I just tried it again after rebooting and making sure no browsers were open. No dice. Still showing the launcher as v. 1.04 front page says it's supposed to be 1.09. It also mentions a repair tool which apparently wasn't bothered with for the mac port either. This time the patch number was slightly higher, but it didn't download it. I'd post more logs but it seems like no one is reading them. By which I mean to say, with apologies to Roger Waters: Hello? Is there anybody in there? Just nod if you can hear me... Is there anyone home?
Alisyana 0ne Percent. Transmission Lost 72	Posted - 2012.03.14 22:15:00 - [60] - Quote from syslog, startup: http://pastebin.com/TpPq0bg8 Did someone leave "debug" on??? *-¬ 2011 Facepalm Ops* "No, you really don't wanna know."
C'alvez Toxic-Waste-Corporation 0	Posted - 2012.03.14 22:26:00 - [61] - Quote Vincent Athena wrote: Stavos Kelley wrote: ............. I get "exception" No connection could be made to the content server. Please maker sure that your internet connection is up and restart the launcher." and yes I have a connection to the internet................. -Stavos I got that once and just re-booted the computer. That made the issue go away. Lucky you! Congrats. Of course I tried that. Mind you: TRIED that. Issue persisted.
chbm Labyrinth Industries Shadow of xXDEATHXx 0	Posted - 2012.03.14 22:45:00 - [62] - Quote I have the same problem. The updater fails with Exception in thread UpdaterProcessThread: Traceback (most recent call last): File "threading.pyc", line 552, in __bootstrap_inner File "threading.pyc", line 505, in run File "lib/update.pyc", line 532, in Update File "core_utils.pyc", line 191, in exc_plus AttributeError: 'Thread' object has no attribute '__bootstrap' Why oh Why did CCP decide to ship a python with the client ? Glarbl Blarbl wrote: http://pastebin.com/1QqAUvJQ has the launcher log from the macbook, and http://pastebin.com/6XBZ0Z8v has some errors found in the syslog. I'd really like to be reassured that the mac community here hasn't been forgotten... In the meantime I'm really glad I picked up mass effect 3 the other day.
Pila Ferant Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2012.03.15 00:11:00 - [63] - Quote Created more than one message exactly like this and every time it ends up being deleted. Dunno why... Currently running MacOSX version 10.7 I cannot even open the Eve client. I've deleted EVEOnline from my computer in its entirety, I've re-downloaded the client, and upon installation I double click the EVE Icon and receive "EVE Online Error" with two buttons "Open Console" and "Terminate" Upon closer inspection into the syslogs it running into a python error: The traceback can be found at the following address: http://pastebin.com/uApmgeLX
Raiz Nhell DEEP CORPS 47	Posted - 2012.03.15 01:41:00 - [64] - Quote I managed to avoid the launcher problems, mainly by wandering off and doing something else while it looked like it hung.... And apart from getting frame rate that I could count on one hand on my MacPro (which apparently there is a fix for) nothing seems to be wrong... On noticeable positive is that my MacBookPro no longer gets red hot... and the MacPro at home no longer sounds like a jet spinning up as the exhaust fans panic. I'm so carebear my Pod bleeds rainbow... Beers + nullsec + dodgy fit = Loss mail
Glarbl Blarbl Orion-Glarbl Mining Bureau 1	Posted - 2012.03.15 03:06:00 - [65] - Quote Pila Ferant wrote: Created more than one message exactly like this and every time it ends up being deleted. Dunno why... Currently running MacOSX version 10.7 I cannot even open the Eve client. I've deleted EVEOnline from my computer in its entirety, I've re-downloaded the client, and upon installation I double click the EVE Icon and receive "EVE Online Error" with two buttons "Open Console" and "Terminate" ON A HAPPY NOTE: I am able to get into the game and bypass the stupid launcher entirely by doing the following at a terminal /Applications/EVE\ Online.app/Contents/Resources/EVE\ Online.app/Contents/MacOS/cider -debugmsg +seh,+tid,+module,+debugstr That worked on my iMac, I ran from the cli and it applied an update then the launcher worked. So I can play on one box now :-/ But on the macbook I get spit out with: sh: /Applications/EVE Online.app/Contents/Resources/tgApplyPatch.app/Contents/MacOS/tgApplyPatch: No such file or directory I tried copying the tgApplyPatch.app from a couple branches down the filetree to where it seemed to expect it but that didn't work... At least now I know that it doesn't matter if the mac launcher says it's 1.04 and not 1.09.. Would have been nice to hear that from someone who works at CCP instead of having to hack it out. OFFTOPIC: Anybody ever notice how it's nearly impossible to read those orange links against the nebula (under the bannerhead) where it says which forum you're in? Yeah, that's annoying.
Caxie Image Reality 0	Posted - 2012.03.15 04:18:00 - [66] - Quote The directions are a bit confusing for multiple clients. You will need to use the bottom explanation for it to work if you are using symbolic links. It appears because they are using the launcher there are two EVE Online.app files. The original which is used to open the launcher and the second one to actually start the client. You will need to edit the Info.plist file int he second EVE Online.app package. This is also where you make the symbolic links.
Glarbl Blarbl Orion-Glarbl Mining Bureau 3	Posted - 2012.03.15 16:38:00 - [67] - Quote I tried running the client on my macbook again this morning. Same issue. What the ** CCP? Are you ever going to respond to this official thread you made? Was there any point in making this thread if you were not planning to use it? At this point i'm feeling chagrined that I was happy enough w Crucible 1.1 that I spent actual dollars to buy some PLEX, you can bet your sweet ass I'm never giving this company money again. You won't even let me get the time I paid for. All in all, very disappointed in the lack of communication from CCP's end on this patch week. What the ** were you peeople thinking trying to roll out a big point release at the same time you're partying in Iceland? Exasperated, GB
Glarbl Blarbl Orion-Glarbl Mining Bureau 3	Posted - 2012.03.15 17:08:00 - [68] - Quote This whole thing has gone pear-shaped. My android device told me my queue was getting low (thought I had set it for a long train, whatever).. So I tried to hop back in on my imac -- which was running the client last night. Now your idiotic launcher wants to download the ENTIRE ***** CLIENT. After it downloads it'll probably say "Client update unsuccessful", but I won't be here to see it. So my queue is going to run out later today and I can't do about it. Still waiting to hear something in this thread from CCP. Please stop ignoring us, it's starting to really ** me off.
C'alvez Toxic-Waste-Corporation 0	Posted - 2012.03.15 17:39:00 - [69] - Quote Miracle! Minutes ago I tried to start EVE (without expecting anything else but utter failure) but believe it or not the launcher came up. A patch was downloaded and I could log in. On the down side: the launcher preferences did not offer the option to bypass the launcher if no patches/updates/whatever have to be downloaded as it does on my windows machine. meh Even more on the down side: Where are CCP's officials in this thread? Except for Spitfire's opening post which - as we here all know - is nothing but mere advertisement rubbish, no CCP dev has bothered to show up and give us any info worth reading. Or don't they dare for fearing to be torn into pieces?
Terry Cheng The Volition Project 0	Posted - 2012.03.15 18:49:00 - [70] - Quote GÇóDescription of problem, the more verbal the better Framerate in Space is somewhat lower than before (down from average of 60 FPS to 45 FPS) running at maxed settings. Framerate in Captains Quarters now ROYALLY BLOWS (down from 20-30 FPS to a stunning 5 FPS)!!! GÇóHardware info (Mac model, GPU, CPU, RAM etc.) iMac 27'' mid 2011 Intel i7 @ 3.2 GHz ATI Radeon 6970M with 2GB VRAM 16 GB RAM GÇóOS version Lion 10.7.3 latest patch level GÇóStep by step guide to what causes the issue Just go from ship hangar to Captains Quarter and FPS sink to bottom
Anaxis Muntaine Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 0	Posted - 2012.03.15 19:43:00 - [71] - Quote Clicking on the old EVE icon... says I need to download the patch... so I OK that, and it says it is installing the Launcher - this was 2 hours ago... does it take that long to patch?
Kharo Khann Cosmology Deadly Unknown 0	Posted - 2012.03.15 21:44:00 - [72] - Quote it's the worst patch i've ever encountered in eve. Not being tested well enough, never asked the question why this update ? etcetc. pure crap
Aviaden Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation 0	Posted - 2012.03.16 15:38:00 - [73] - Quote Yesterday I tried to create a contract with corp member. Not possible after several attempts. Even inserting a decimal point into the " I will Pay " field was beyond the scope of our new client. Logged off. Mac OS X v. 10.6.8 Model Name:iMac Model Identifier:iMac9,1 Processor Name:Intel Core 2 Duo Processor Speed:3.06 GHz Number Of Processors:1 Total Number Of Cores:2 L2 Cache:6 MB Memory:4 GB Bus Speed:1.07 GHz Boot ROM Version:IM91.008D.B08 SMC Version (system):1.45f0 I feel for you Devs; EVE is a beautiful, monstrously complicated program. Glad its not my job to fix it.
Glarbl Blarbl Orion-Glarbl Mining Bureau 3	Posted - 2012.03.16 18:23:00 - [74] - Quote Well, nice to hear that there might be a fix for the Mac... next week. Too bad you guys can't be bothered to let us know here, directly. I'm really confused as to why this thread exists, it was obviously never intended to be used to help Mac customers.
Nicol Nicculon Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.03.16 19:28:00 - [75] - Quote I am astonished as well how CCP handles this issue. Wasn't there a blog of the CEO a couple of months ago or so where he said that they will start to listen to CCP's customers again and don't do and promise things anymore that are too much to actually deliver? This major update was overfeatured, undertested and the problems are now reduced to affect "a small number of our customers" (https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=82013&p=1). According to all sorts of posts, not only here in the Mac forum, but also on the other fora is indicating that if it is a small number, it's still a very huge number compared to other EVE updates. Facing a disaster like this, I expect - a high-tier member of CCP to announce what's done at Iceland to solve the problem, and an approx. timeline - a way to manage the skill queue via website (WE SHOULD HAVE THIS ANYWAY SINCE A LOOONG TIME) - responses in threads like this - a rollback of the update asap - a compensation of some sort - a serious quality control management upgrade at CCP I'm astonished an update with serious issues such as connection stalls, breaks, update process failing, all sort of launcher problems AND huge framerate drops was blessed for release. Personally, I didn't start up EVE (since 1.5 is deployed) and don't plan to do it, so I loose a lot of time now... I hope the CSM watches and puts this on the table with a grim expression on the face.
Dersen Lowery Laurentson INC StructureDamage 7	Posted - 2012.03.17 02:29:00 - [76] - Quote Well, my apparently charmed life as a Mac using EVE player has finally come to an end with this update. When I used my main client the other day, everything worked OK, though honestly I didn't do enough to really test for things like a framerate drop. Today, I try to use my second client, "EVE Online 2". It launches, and downloads the 1.5 update again. Fine, I'm used to that. I press "PLAY", and it launches my main client, "EVE Online." Fair enough. I edit info.plist in the accustomed way, and try again. "EVE Online" starts up. So I hit the boards--there's a new way to symlink a second client. Cool. I follow the directions, and launch EVE Online 2. The launcher comes up, and downloads another patch: "EVE_Online_350962-351477". It downloads the absolute heck out of that patch: I have a screen shot that shows its progress at 34210064.9%, and it wasn't done. It launch EVE Online 2, correctly, but that dies right after displaying the splash screen. I launch it again. This time, it decides to download a 5.27GB "patch," "EVE_Online_0-352080.patch". As of this writing, it's 56.2% finished. I really hope it works. This is the rockiest experience I've had since I joined up with Incarna, and Incarna was no fun at all. 24" iMac mid 2007 OS X 10.7.3 (11D50b), all patches applied 2.8GHz Core 2 Duo 4GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro 256MB RAM 1 TB SATA hard drive.
Orrin Kion State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.03.17 11:03:00 - [77] - Quote I have to put it in for me. EVE has always ran super smooth for me for the past year, with everything set to High. 30-45 fps no matter what I was doing. Now it's unplayable with 1.5. I got 2-5 FPS when not even doing anything. Ever since the winter expansion came out I haven't been playing much since as soon as Incarna was gone. I dock at the station and my EVE Client crashes to desktop. Months go by updates come out, I dock at the station after doing something and crash to desktop. To the point of not even wanting to play just make sure my queue was up. Now my frame rate is totally gone. And FanFest is coming too, so seems CCP is more in toa "Party at the Top of the World" then testing this patch. :/ Mac OS 10.6.8 Model Name:Mac Pro Model Identifier:MacPro1,1 Processor Name:Dual-Core Intel Xeon Processor Speed:3 GHz Number Of Processors:2 Total Number Of Cores:4 L2 Cache (per processor):4 MB Memory:10 GB Bus Speed:1.33 GHz Boot ROM Version:MP11.005C.B08 SMC Version (system):1.7f10 Chipset Model:ATI Radeon HD 5770 Type:GPU Bus:PCIe Slot:Slot-1 PCIe Lane Width:x16 VRAM (Total):1024 MB Vendor:ATI (0x1002) Device ID:0x68b8 Revision ID:0x0000 ROM Revision:113-C0160C-155 EFI Driver Version:01.00.436 Displays: Apple Cinema HD Display: Resolution:1920 x 1200 Pixel Depth:32-Bit Color (ARGB8888) Main Display:Yes Mirror:Off Online:Yes Rotation:Supported
Tangenz Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.03.17 13:00:00 - [78] - Quote Mac OS X: 10.7 (Lion) Model Name: MacBook Pro Model Identifier: MacBookPro5,2 Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor Speed: 2.56 GHz Number Of Processors: 1 Total Number Of Cores: 2 L2 Cache: 6 MB Memory: 4GB Bus Speed: 1.07 GHz NVIdia 9600 GM processor I haven't played eve online in more than one year. Now I wanted to come back for Cruciable. Installation went fine. Landed in captains quarters. Horrible Framerate. Around 5-8FPS. I call this unplayable. Any lead to another thread in the forum where performance tuning is being discussed? I am stil on default settings. Fresh instalaltion. No tweaks so far.
Lebaneur Tribal Core 0	Posted - 2012.03.19 15:16:00 - [79] - Quote MacBook Pro 15" mid-2010 2,53 GHz Intel Core i5 8 Gt 1067 MHz:n DDR3 NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M 256 MB Mac OS X Lion 10.7.3 (11D50b) Multithreads off! In general the farmerate after the patch is 50% from before. Framerate is usually around 30 fps (still accepltable) after login then it slowly drops below 10 in a few hours and yesterday after several hours of playing IT SUDDENLY DROPPED TO ZERO, causing me to loose my ship and my pod. The UI completely froze and I could not warp the pod away. You can maybe imagine the jeering in local... Afterwards I was so fussed about the lockup that forgot to upgrade my clone and flew around in my pod and 900 000 skillpoint clone!! Had I lost 32 million skillpoints I would be writing a long petition instead of this post now :-) Anyway, I hope that the promised fix (early this week, ya?) will fix all framerate problems. I don't want to freeze in PVP ever again.
Lebaneur Tribal Core 0	Posted - 2012.03.20 07:42:00 - [80] - Quote No mentions about Apple fixes in patch notes - did you miss the deadline for the notes or was the fix scrapped?
Nicol Nicculon Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2012.03.20 10:43:00 - [81] - Quote Lebaneur wrote: No mentions about Apple fixes in patch notes - did you miss the deadline for the notes or was the fix scrapped? You seem to think that this mess is only an Apple-client issue? If so, you're wrong - head over to the EVE Information Portal forum and behold the fury of the other users in the Incarna 1.5 thread there. I'm not angry that errors and mistakes happens (I'm astonished, tho), I'm just angry that the CEO said they will listen to the customers and what they do now is completely off-track compared to the vision we heard last summer from CCP government. Unfortunately, they don't seem to roll back this desastrous update, they don't apologize, they don't offer skill queue management via website, they don't inform us about their strategy and they don't give us a timeline approx. Total crap. I bought and installed SW:TOR to forget this mess which we are now enduring for too many days... luckily for EVE, there is no native SW:TOR Mac client, so I have to fire up bootcamp which is annoying.... but not that much...
Orrin Kion State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.03.20 17:53:00 - [82] - Quote Well this updated didn't change anything, the Mac version is still unplayable for me. I was always so proud how things with EVE seemed equal between the two systems. Now I restarted last night in Bootcamp, updated EVE. Same computer yet my frame rate is back to being what it was before in Mac OS, with no signs of trouble at all. Not only that, I noticed the PC version of the launcher is much different then the Mac one. The PC one, gives you the numbers of players online, more buttons, ones for plex's even the options are different and have more things to choose from. I've never been a fan of launchers for games, and I don't like having to start my game before I start my game. Even with the update tomorrow there is not even a hint there is anything wrong with the Mac Client / Mac Launcher. I really don't think this will even be addressed until after there FanFest.
Glarbl Blarbl Orion-Glarbl Mining Bureau 3	Posted - 2012.03.20 18:31:00 - [83] - Quote 1.5.3 still won't launch on my macbook. I'm not going to bother posting any error logs since they probably say the same thing they said a week ago -- and because I highly doubt anybody at CCP is following this thread. Maybe 1.5.4 will have the fix for mac? I'm not holding my breath, but this time I'm definitely asking for compensation. Get your **** together, CCP.
Nicol Nicculon Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2012.03.20 20:06:00 - [84] - Quote I returned now to see what's the experience with 1.5.3 - thank you for the update on 1.5.3, Orrin and Glarbl, I think I won't bother... the Mac client seems to be in a sorry state indeed....
Franky Zoid Big Mike Industries 0	Posted - 2012.03.20 22:11:00 - [85] - Quote Using the window mode instead of full screen for display option fixed the fps issue on my imac... fps seems back up to the same as before the launcher/patch install.
A'arna Atraben Mammoth Beetle 1	Posted - 2012.03.21 12:20:00 - [86] - Quote CCP Spitfire wrote: EVE Online: Crucible 1.5 has been successfully deployed. I can confirm that 1.5.3, which still comes with launcher version 1.04, will not update to 1.5.4. Here's the error, after patch is downloaded: Quote: 21/03/12 11:17:15 PM[0x0-0xba0ba].org.pythonmac.unspecified.EVEOnline[1524]Exception in thread UpdaterProcessThread: 21/03/12 11:17:15 PM[0x0-0xba0ba].org.pythonmac.unspecified.EVEOnline[1524]Traceback (most recent call last): 21/03/12 11:17:15 PM[0x0-0xba0ba].org.pythonmac.unspecified.EVEOnline[1524] File "threading.pyc", line 552, in __bootstrap_inner 21/03/12 11:17:15 PM[0x0-0xba0ba].org.pythonmac.unspecified.EVEOnline[1524] File "threading.pyc", line 505, in run 21/03/12 11:17:15 PM[0x0-0xba0ba].org.pythonmac.unspecified.EVEOnline[1524] File "lib/update.pyc", line 532, in Update 21/03/12 11:17:15 PM[0x0-0xba0ba].org.pythonmac.unspecified.EVEOnline[1524] File "core_utils.pyc", line 191, in exc_plus 21/03/12 11:17:15 PM[0x0-0xba0ba].org.pythonmac.unspecified.EVEOnline[1524]AttributeError: 'Thread' object has no attribute '__bootstrap'
Orrin Kion State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2012.03.21 13:52:00 - [87] - Quote Still nothing, my ticket I opened on the 16th is still open and have never heard anything about it or any replies. What is bothering me aside from not evening being able to play on the Mac. Is that nothing is being said at all. Either it is so broken they have no idea why. It would even be better if they said "We are aware of a problem for the Mac Client, but can't give a time frame for a fix" that would at least be something, but we're not evening getting that. When I tried a few minutes ago, the launcher updated but it seemed to do nothing.
Glarbl Blarbl Orion-Glarbl Mining Bureau 4	Posted - 2012.03.21 20:12:00 - [88] - Quote Here's some feedback CCP: Give us a launcher that works on all macs! Fix the python coding error, FFS! And compensate us for the time we haven't been able to play! This is unacceptable.
Orrin Kion State War Academy Caldari State 2	Posted - 2012.03.23 00:55:00 - [89] - Quote Ok my EVE is back to normal. When I started up EVE a new window popped up briefly and it said it was fixing errors in the launcher, it quickly went through. Then the launcher came up, the launcher itself didn't update anything. I logged in the splash screen ships seemed to move better, then I got to the Captains Quarters and my frame rate was back to normal. I have EVE open right now in the background. What ever it was, had something to do with the back end of the launcher it looks like.
Debir Achen EVE University Ivy League 19	Posted - 2012.03.24 12:52:00 - [90] - Quote OK, strange bug since latest patch, and I think I've narrowed it down: - Typing away in chat, and accidentally hit ctrl- or option-return rather than return, which inserts a newline rather than submitting. - Delete the faulty newline - Hit return Expected results: - client submits text Actual results: - client goes bzzzt. After this, I seem to lose connection to server. Lose ability to change chat windows, opening other windows or issuing other commands does nothing. Ability to enter text sometimes returns, but no-one else sees it. 10.6.8, EVE version 7.30.353549 Anyone else seeing anything like this? Update: it's shift-return, and I can't seem to easily reproduce it. Unless it's tied to some sort of chat update at the same time?

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