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Grim	Posted - 2004.05.15 16:21:00 - [1] Edited by: Grim on 15/05/2004 16:23:34 I'm not sure the purpose of this post, i just wanted to write something. It seems that people who started from day one are neglected. Yeah, ok so we have 9Million plus skill points and a battleship but. Noobs nowadays (god i feel old) get so much support and even get tutorials. After all, we had to wait 4 months (thats a guess) for implants and the like. Its all well and good getting new players into the game but surely there must be some incetive to keep old players as well. What are others feelings about this? I've submitted a idea in the idea forum for a few things but no result as of yet.
Tank CEO	Posted - 2004.05.15 16:34:00 - [2] This game is already difficult to learn if ur a noob, noobs = CCP profit. CCP wants them to stay, so they make everything easy to learn as possible and make it the most interesting game they have ever seen so they will stay. We are at the top of the chain, we know how to play, we know what to do, we know alot. ---
Desireia	Posted - 2004.05.15 16:37:00 - [3] I think alot of us would like to see some reward once we get to 1 year of from eve or something along the lines... My main account/Character has been around since 6 June (took a while to get the game) and it would be nice to see something only old players get on the 6th June in my hanger. -- Forum Alt --
Baldour Ngarr	Posted - 2004.05.15 17:43:00 - [4] Originally by: Desireia I think alot of us would like to see some reward once we get to 1 year of from eve or something along the lines... My main account/Character has been around since 6 June (took a while to get the game) and it would be nice to see something only old players get on the 6th June in my hanger. Only old players get 9 million-plus skillpoints. _______ "Soon" is an ancient Icelandic word meaning "some time before the next Ice Age."
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.05.15 18:06:00 - [5] I wouldn't mind being given an oppurtunity to switch my character to one of these new oriental ones. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Phaethon	Posted - 2004.05.15 18:06:00 - [6] How about arthritis? Old ppl get that. WTB. Infifitrator I drones
Negotiator	Posted - 2004.05.15 19:18:00 - [7] not a bad idea. give 1 year+ accounts the ability to change their face. would be cool ^.^
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.05.15 19:23:00 - [8] Originally by: Negotiator not a bad idea. give 1 year+ accounts the ability to change their face. would be cool ^.^ good idea, one year old get a free makeover done on their main. I wonder if they'd consider giving them a new name and erasing their corp history too Not that I'd want to but some of us must by now feel like starting a new char to get rid of their history... _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Grim	Posted - 2004.05.16 00:09:00 - [9] yeah clear of history would be nice. Its always a question that comes up and people don' trust ya :) And yes, i'd like my char to have more hair. even a wig would do
jaque	Posted - 2004.05.16 00:23:00 - [10] maybe some sort of jewlery or trinket to denote your over 1yr like a dog spike choker or a bull ring through your nose. personally i'd go with an eyebrow pierced and my my nose pierced and have a chain connecting the two
Tesk Malloc	Posted - 2004.05.16 02:02:00 - [11] I'd like to grow some hair, maybe a nice quiff or perhaps a mullet. Oooo! And instead of this nasty armour perhaps a slinky over the shoulder number would look nice. Something in purple perhaps.... Tesk Malloc - Hired Scum, Murderer and All Round Nasty Piece Of Work "You can't love life too much. Everybody dies."
cypriss	Posted - 2004.05.16 02:08:00 - [12] i want a cigarette dangling from my mouth
Czar Marcus	Posted - 2004.05.16 02:08:00 - [13] It's nice that CCP is attracting new customers, but if it they don't smarten up, they're going to lose the people who have been around 1 year and are getting sick of playing.
DigitalCommunist	Posted - 2004.05.16 02:29:00 - [14] two words: CUSTOM BACKGROUND _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf
Spruance	Posted - 2004.05.16 02:54:00 - [15] I agree with Digital Communist. If you are a beta tester a nice "beta" background would be nice. Reginald Spruance III
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2004.05.16 03:14:00 - [16] Two words; free colonics! Convert Stations
GraveDigger	Posted - 2004.05.16 03:57:00 - [17] Edited by: GraveDigger on 16/05/2004 04:08:34
Shevaun Ashnirelim	Posted - 2004.05.16 04:02:00 - [18] My suggestion, which is absolute genius and should be obeyed immediately: Annual stat resets. I know that my main character has a pretty stupid statpoint spread. I'd like to redistribute it to give myself more perception and willpower. How about letting people move their statpoints around once a year?
Kamikazee Joe	Posted - 2004.05.16 04:05:00 - [19] Wish i was old, i've only been here a little while since u could download it coz it wasn't available here. It would be nice if those older players got something simple but unique to celebrate 1 year anniversaries and such, i mean hey u guys celebrated it on the main page, why can't the players seeings as they've been here from the beginning too.
Tenacha Khan	Posted - 2004.05.16 04:22:00 - [20] im only 9.5months old...so i dont want any of those KIA*****es gaetting ahead anymore
Deadflip2	Posted - 2004.05.16 09:02:00 - [21] Originally by: Rod Blaine Originally by: Negotiator not a bad idea. give 1 year+ accounts the ability to change their face. would be cool ^.^ good idea, one year old get a free makeover done on their main. I wonder if they'd consider giving them a new name and erasing their corp history too Not that I'd want to but some of us must by now feel like starting a new char to get rid of their history... well yeah, since ive been in stain, pirate corperations, uber-carebear corperations and ****s, and sicne ive been in a amount of coprerations twice the length of my screen., Carebears say im a scammer, Pirates say im a carebear, A lotta alliences say im a SA person so they cant accept me , And most of the rest think im a corpthief --- "this song reminds me of the girl i met on a schooltrip, she was really nice, and she really liked me. I forgot to ask her her phone number" - Nelix trist OMG im a pretzel!!!
Mned Graydroggen	Posted - 2004.05.16 09:55:00 - [22] Not that I think that gifts are needed. I mean EVE itself is a gift big enough to last several years for me :) anyway... Quote: Originally by: Negotiator -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- not a bad idea. give 1 year+ accounts the ability to change their face. would be cool ^.^ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- good idea, one year old get a free makeover done on their main. I wonder if they'd consider giving them a new name and erasing their corp history too Not that I'd want to but some of us must by now feel like starting a new char to get rid of their history... I would like some cosmetic changes, finaly finish my turn to the camera, some grey strands in my hair. But a simple change in my char pict would result in everybody who has my picture rendered ingam to have that image replaced aswell. As for the get rid of you history. Already lost mine, due to some unrecoverable data loss somewhere along the road as the support responce stated.
Demangel	Posted - 2004.05.16 10:51:00 - [23] Orriginally, WAY back (some of you old timers might even recall this), CCP spread around the rumor/promise that as characters grew in skill points/age whatever, they would get access to things that would alter thier portrait. For example, for a fee (they used to say) you could alter your portrait. After a certain level, you would get new options for customization to use with that portrait alteration. Including, but not limited too: Implants, new hair styles, special background portraits, jewelry, tatoos, and a host of other things. Considering however that the portrait is one of the more useless peices of EVE ATM, it's understandably something thats low on the priority list. I doubt I would qualify for any special treatment from EVE/CCP myself since I quit for 5 months and just got back recently... But if I did, I would probably want something more or less honorary... I don't need ISK or modules... But something that lets other players know I'm an old fart, and know my way around EVE pretty damn well even despite my 5 month hiatus. But really it's a tricky question of how I would exactlty want that to be displayed. and leads me again back to the portrait... But I don't really think thats needed... Though to be totaly honest I would like to change my portrait a bit... I made myself look altogether too friendly and innocent... Good for selling things, but oh well, can't win em all. Maybe though, old players should get an improved chance at getting involved in new content/GM events? Oh well, Who knows... I wouldn't say we're really being ignored... Remember the majority of the coolest new content will be designed with us in mind. I can't think of a single noob who will be able to buy a interceptor after a few weeks without a major gift/donation, let alone a station Galaxion > If you drove a car shaped like a thorax women would call you Demangel > Dude... I would call.. Demangel > wait that sounded g@y I bet. Galaxion > Just a bit.
Aelius	Posted - 2004.05.16 10:58:00 - [24] Originally by: Spruance I agree with Digital Communist. If you are a beta tester a nice "beta" background would be nice. Reginald Spruance III signed, I've been around since beta 4 and since 12 may 2003. Selling Raven BPC ME20 3M at Yulai 1st Station
Projected	Posted - 2004.05.16 11:00:00 - [25] E&B had such feature implemented at one point. The "Home Stations" gotten 2 terminals to change character and ship appearance for an ingame credit fee (limited choice though). Prolly could work for Eve as well. When you dream, there are no rules. People can fly. Anything can happen.
Synex	Posted - 2004.05.16 11:08:00 - [26] ditto all this... Game-wise i'd like to see some more high-level content... Veteran wise, it'd be nice to have some way to say "Yeah, I was here since 9am on day 1" and for people to actually believe me... even if it is a little medal or something
Buggs	Posted - 2004.05.16 11:34:00 - [27] Edited by: Buggs on 16/05/2004 11:35:21 Think they should do something in the form of a chevron or a stripe (whatever) in the corner of your photo for evey 6 months or year, which you have the option of turning on or off.
Aelius	Posted - 2004.05.16 11:42:00 - [28] Originally by: Buggs Edited by: Buggs on 16/05/2004 11:35:21 Think they should do something in the form of a chevron or a stripe (whatever) in the corner of your photo for evey 6 months or year, which you have the option of turning on or off. Thats the coolest idea ever. Selling Raven BPC ME20 3M at Yulai 1st Station
Negotiator	Posted - 2004.05.16 15:08:00 - [29] deadflip, don't take this the wrong way, but i'm pretty sure people just think you are a dumbass...
Deadflip2	Posted - 2004.05.16 15:22:00 - [30] Originally by: Negotiator deadflip, don't take this the wrong way, but i'm pretty sure people just think you are a dumbass... 0.o but i thought that was just mommy --- "this song reminds me of the girl i met on a schooltrip, she was really nice, and she really liked me. I forgot to ask her her phone number" - Nelix trist OMG im a pretzel!!!
Grim	Posted - 2004.05.16 15:25:00 - [31] I kinda agree with Deadflip2, I've so far kept my nose fairly clean but after 12 months I've managed to get hold a lengthy employment history. Most people now (escepcially new corps) are dubious of the long list coz they think i might be a scammer or corp theif. What they don't realise is that most of the corps i've been in were started by me and then left when they are up and running (or failed). Like, I don't put my whole job history on my cv so perhaps a change in that might be wise, like only show employment history for the past 4 months, thats an easy enough change
var'ulfur	Posted - 2004.05.16 16:17:00 - [32] i have been here since beta3, it would be hard to give us a choice of ships colors but maybe a emblem for the ship. say a wolfs head with red eyes or somthing. i like my avatar as is but somthing on my ship as i fly in space would be very cool... and yes im an old man cool was the in word when i was young.... wolf talk is cheap the cost of action is enormus
Lao Tzu	Posted - 2004.05.16 16:20:00 - [33] Maybe we'll get OAP prices on the Interbus when it comes out
Tadius Rhain	Posted - 2004.05.16 21:11:00 - [34] Originally by: Demangel Orriginally, WAY back (some of you old timers might even recall this), CCP spread around the rumor/promise that as characters grew in skill points/age whatever, they would get access to things that would alter thier portrait. For example, for a fee (they used to say) you could alter your portrait... Hm... If by CCP you mean players on the forums and if by rumour you mean the true definition of the word. Seriously though, I don't remember CCP ever saying that but I do remember seeing a great number of posts in the ideas forum, each poster seeming to think his/her idea was innovative and unique, asking for that which you have mentioned. And following this thread there is always the custom decals for ships thread... The reason we can't have custom graphics for corporations, ship decals or character background art is the same: Too much bandwidth for other players. Too much storage space (the images would have to be hosted on the eve servers). It would be hard to scale up as the player-base increases. It adds a very small benefit to the game for the work required to implement or maintain it. Probably key reason why CCP isn't interested: There would invariably be a level of gaudiness brought into the game by certain players, detracting from the game. ____________________________________________ Ideas Lab - Forum Search Feature - Sign me!
Astaroth	Posted - 2004.05.16 23:13:00 - [35] i simply think that accounts with 12-15 mill skillpoints should be able to make jovian alts
Styrmir	Posted - 2004.05.16 23:58:00 - [36] Well, I agree with what some have said that the millions of skillpoints we older guys have are the reward. Many have also amassed huge wealth. Of course we want content, events etc. but I don't feel they should be exclusive to us in particular. Founder and Manager of The Misneden Shuttle Museum
Negotiator	Posted - 2004.05.17 00:47:00 - [37] i dont think skillpoints on the account should matter, should be the age of the account. i have turned 1 y.o on the 12th, but i only have about 7.5 mil sp.
OverKill	Posted - 2004.05.17 05:18:00 - [38] I tend to agree with the "Rewards program" type of thing. We have have all paid for a game which is essentially still in development and at least 6 months+ of being what it was promised. That takes some pretty hard core gamers and loyal customers. It would be saavy business sense to reward people like that and not forget that although CCP got EVE off the ground it was the player base who keeps it going. Regards, OK - [email protected] - http://www.hadean.org Chief Executive Officer - Hadean Drive Yards
Grim	Posted - 2004.05.20 01:09:00 - [39] i agree
Squirrel	Posted - 2004.05.20 01:14:00 - [40] imo stat re-assignment would be the best possible thing that could happen to 1 year old players... i would just LOVE to kill off my useless charisma.. also.. im pretty sure all the other ppl who created their char at release also did stupid things cuz we were following the lame arse manual which was out of date in beta... _______________________________________________ Carfax > guys, please dont pvp here, it messes up the avoid pd kill zones autopilot option
Faramir	Posted - 2004.05.20 01:19:00 - [41] Edited by: Faramir on 20/05/2004 01:20:40 Can i at least get a change of clothes after wearing the same shirt for 1 year+
Bigfoot Hunter	Posted - 2004.05.20 01:43:00 - [42] Edited by: Bigfoot Hunter on 20/05/2004 01:48:54 I would love to change my char portraight im sick of the green background, oh and maybe get a shave and turn my head abit my neck is getting sore in that position for a year now . As for employment history whipes that happened to me by accident somehow so now every once in awhile when recruiting or something someone calls me a newb and i been here for a year now . -------------------------------------- Fortis cadere, cedere non potest
Bella Verde	Posted - 2004.05.20 03:00:00 - [43] I've only been here since august, but I think features for the old guy would be nice. Modified portraits, change your portraint completely etc. And obviously being able to move your attributes around would simply be awesome. Being one of those asian characters that might be coming out would be pretty nifty, too. As for new ship skins, I think we should all be able to customize our ships...
Arciadian	Posted - 2004.05.20 09:23:00 - [44] I think it would be nice to have a special ship designed to give to all the 1 year old chars. Just a frigate or Indy of course, but something nice and shiny.
Iratus Caelestis	Posted - 2004.05.20 09:35:00 - [45] A special anniversery ship would be a great idea, and really really easy to implement once they created the ship. Could be a ultra quick yacht or something.
jason hill	Posted - 2004.05.20 10:16:00 - [46] Originally by: Negotiator i dont think skillpoints on the account should matter, should be the age of the account. i have turned 1 y.o on the 12th, but i only have about 7.5 mil sp. I agree with negotiator on this one .I think that anyone who has managed a year in the game should be afforded the privalige of making alterations to thier portraits .After all I dont think that its too much to ask after a year of loyalty and may I say dedication to ccp ? "THE HUMAN SHIELD"
Severe McCald	Posted - 2004.05.20 10:54:00 - [47] Edited by: Severe McCald on 20/05/2004 10:56:16 Originally by: jason hill Originally by: Negotiator i dont think skillpoints on the account should matter, should be the age of the account. i have turned 1 y.o on the 12th, but i only have about 7.5 mil sp. I agree with negotiator on this one .I think that anyone who has managed a year in the game should be afforded the privalige of making alterations to thier portraits .After all I dont think that its too much to ask after a year of loyalty and may I say dedication to ccp ? I don't quite agree. Those of us who started an account a year+ ago have not necessarily been playing a year. Some of us have had breaks, for one reason or another. If the database can cope, maybe any "reward" should take account of actually playing for a year (rather than holding an account). If the database can't cope, then skillpoints seems a good way of sorting the hard-core from the soft. Just to declare my interest, account started 5/5/03, skillpoints only 8.5M. Should have logged on to train Severe And Moses was content to dwell with the man:and he gave Moses Zipporah his daughter. And she bare him a son, and he called his name Gershom:for he said, I have been a stranger in a strange land.
XeQtR	Posted - 2004.05.20 15:48:00 - [48] Just give us 1 year+ chars the right to change our NAMES PLEASE!!! I don't care about the face as I think I'm kinda cute but my name sux. Or we could get an official title before our names. IE: "Too lazy to switch game in a year-XeQtR" Or "Played for 1 year and still don't know **** about the game-XeQtR"
Oosel	Posted - 2004.05.20 17:19:00 - [49] just be glad that if your over a year old you will have fond memories of m0o striking fear into ure gaming experience in the early days with the massive damage caused when stamped heat sinks stacked and heavy mod beams were hitting you for 1200 damage. leaving the station at yz-lql and before you even knew it you were back in ure cloning vat.....that was in the days before small corps were kicked out of alliance space and then called carebears for it....and best of all punishers costing you nearly 1 mill isk sometimes you realise being new in eve isnt as bad as everyone says because its a hell of a lot cheaper now than it was then
Lachenlaud	Posted - 2004.05.20 17:47:00 - [50] Originally by: Rod Blaine Originally by: Negotiator not a bad idea. give 1 year+ accounts the ability to change their face. would be cool ^.^ good idea, one year old get a free makeover done on their main. How 'bout they just make them LOOK older. /me snickers [email protected] http://www.goi-eve.com/forums/ Check out the Eve Master Datasheet here!!
Synex	Posted - 2004.05.20 18:15:00 - [51] Originally by: Oosel just be glad that if your over a year old you will have fond memories of m0o striking fear into ure gaming experience in the early days with the massive damage caused when stamped heat sinks stacked and heavy mod beams were hitting you for 1200 damage. leaving the station at yz-lql and before you even knew it you were back in ure cloning vat.....that was in the days before small corps were kicked out of alliance space and then called carebears for it....and best of all punishers costing you nearly 1 mill isk sometimes you realise being new in eve isnt as bad as everyone says because its a hell of a lot cheaper now than it was then Bah... that was the fun of it all! I remember release very fondly... mining Omber for hours in my Velator to save up and buy an Imicus... the roid belts seemed HUGE back them... Then working with my corp to be THE first corp in Gallente space to produce Tristans and Iterons... and by the time we were really shifting... I remember the first Thoraxs on the market, costing a whopping 25Mil ISK (almost unhead of to have that much back then). The first Armageddon on the market, 185Mil, the first Apoc, 225Mil... ah... those were the days... People do have it very easy these days, when corps will hand you out frigates and cruisers left, right and center.
XeQtR	Posted - 2004.05.20 18:15:00 - [52] Dont know if it was easier or harder being a noob back then. Sure we had to figure more stuff out by ourselves but on the other hand we didn't have any uptight people in battleships calling us "n00bs" (Except Kayosoni but he wasn't in a battleship) But yeah stuff was a HELLUVA lot more expensive. Moa 15 million anyone?
Synex	Posted - 2004.05.20 18:16:00 - [53] I am looking forward to Shiva tho... Because it'll add the high level content (hopefully) that I'm looking for... I'll enjoy scouting out enemy territory, marking down the locations of their bases, playing hit and run in my black ops frigate... Eve has some life in it yet... tho it's asleep at the moment, and could do with some CPR...
XeQtR	Posted - 2004.05.20 18:23:00 - [54] eve is pronounced dead / asleep prior to every major patch. It's just us players being impatient and unwilling to buy expensive stuff without knowing exactly how the nerfbat will hit. I remember an overwhealming sence of dullnes prior to castor which was followed by a "OMFG THIS GAME IS SCREWED UP" right after Castor. Then after a few weeks we had all come to terms with the changes and were back to having fun

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