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SKINK0429 THE NDRANGHETA Monkey Religion	Posted - 2008.06.24 10:12:00 - [1] Hi cnt find many recent setups for this on here there mostly old or pve! Im after a PVP setup small gang up to 15 guys+
Saietor Blackgreen The First Foundation	Posted - 2008.06.24 11:41:00 - [2] Its one of problematic ships in EVE. To sum up the stuff, the only more or less effective setup currently is: 5x720mm II 2xSB II MWD II 2xTE II 2xGyro II 1xDC II Locktime/lockrange rigs. This is for shooting down interceptors and other weaker ships from 80+ KM with Domination carbonized lead or closer with RF EMP. Unfortunately the ship is hardly useful for anything else - it is almost completely outclassed by Hurricane at closer ranges, it has too small lockrange to compete with rail snipers. Munin is a ship specialized in things where artilleries suck, so ship bonus and weapon bonus dont produce cumulative effect. --- Redesign local/scanner feature - make the place huge, dark and scary again!
SKINK0429 THE NDRANGHETA Monkey Religion	Posted - 2008.06.24 11:41:00 - [3] Does no one fly this ship? Cmon gimme some setup advice!
Trefnis The Pikey Rebellion II	Posted - 2008.06.24 12:07:00 - [4] Cant remeber my fit but it was gang support so no tackle gear. 5x 650mm, 2x malkuth heavy missiles 10mn mwd, 2x lse dmg ctrl, 3x gyro, rcu 2x core defense rig 5x hobgoblin all t2 bar missiles 470dps up to 20km with faction ammo and very agile 41k ehp aswell thou as said above, hurri will be better anyway and cheaper, just little more slugish
Drek Grapper	Posted - 2008.06.24 12:11:00 - [5] Originally by: SKINK0429 Does no one fly this ship? Cmon gimme some setup advice! If you want a small armor tanked AC cruiser may i suggest either the Cynabal or the new Fleet Issue Stabber. Both of these ships have similar (if not more) EHP and Damage than a Munnin and cost about the same (ok the Stabber costs quite a bit more but you get alot more for your isk). Or for the more sensible option use a Cane. --------- If the Thorax was a car it would look like this
Tregaron Shinra Shinra Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.24 12:37:00 - [6] Originally by: Saietor Blackgreen Its one of problematic ships in EVE. To sum up the stuff, the only more or less effective setup currently is: 5x720mm II 2xSB II MWD II 2xTE II 2xGyro II 1xDC II Locktime/lockrange rigs. This is for shooting down interceptors and other weaker ships from 80+ KM with Domination carbonized lead or closer with RF EMP. Unfortunately the ship is hardly useful for anything else - it is almost completely outclassed by Hurricane at closer ranges, it has too small lockrange to compete with rail snipers. Munin is a ship specialized in things where artilleries suck, so ship bonus and weapon bonus dont produce cumulative effect. what he said
SKINK0429 THE NDRANGHETA Monkey Religion	Posted - 2008.06.24 15:00:00 - [7] So its safe to say they suck? Wonder why I see so many about?
AstroPhobic	Posted - 2008.06.24 15:38:00 - [8] Originally by: SKINK0429 So its safe to say they suck? Wonder why I see so many about? I haven't seen a muninn in about a year. I bought one off my mate for 60mil and have regretted it since. Yikes.
Liang Nuren Perkone	Posted - 2008.06.24 15:52:00 - [9] I got well over 100 kills at gatecamps in my last Muninn. Then I foolishly took it roaming and got killed. ;-) [Muninn, Gatecamp Muninn] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Damage Control II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M Standard Missile Launcher II, Sabretooth Light Missile Standard Missile Launcher II, Sabretooth Light Missile Targeting System Subcontroller I Targeting System Subcontroller I Warrior II x5 I feel that a second TE doesn't help nearly as much as a third Gyro. -Liang -- It was an honor to participate in the Insurgency campaign in Branch. o7 to all involved.
Antodias North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.06.24 15:58:00 - [10] Originally by: AstroPhobic Originally by: SKINK0429 So its safe to say they suck? Wonder why I see so many about? I haven't seen a muninn in about a year. I bought one off my mate for 60mil and have regretted it since. Yikes. Muninns are one of the most common fleet ships in zerosec.
Hudsonn A Few Good Men.	Posted - 2008.06.24 16:00:00 - [11] How to fit a muninn? -No tackle -Sheild -Gyro's -nano -Guns...missiles -19k fall off = Melts things. ___________________________ Minmatar Rebel
Dalek Commander	Posted - 2008.06.24 16:03:00 - [12] Originally by: Hudsonn How to fit a muninn? -No tackle -Sheild -Gyro's -nano -Guns...missiles -19k fall off = Melts things. Just get a Hurricane then. Not as agile, but you'll get the same job done for a lot cheaper.
Hudsonn A Few Good Men.	Posted - 2008.06.24 16:16:00 - [13] Originally by: Dalek Commander Originally by: Hudsonn How to fit a muninn? -No tackle -Sheild -Gyro's -nano -Guns...missiles -19k fall off = Melts things. Just get a Hurricane then. Not as agile, but you'll get the same job done for a lot cheaper. Yeh, but everytime i do that on the cane it dies It's amazing how much more survivable the muninn is. Also, fitting a muninn like that has the "surprise" factor. No one really expects it, cos peoples vauge idea of the muninn is that it's a sniper/notank or auto/mediocre armour tank. The times i've had where people didn't even notice where all that damage was coming from until they saw their lossmail. ___________________________ Minmatar Rebel
Shinnen Northern Intelligence	Posted - 2008.06.24 17:11:00 - [14] Originally by: Liang Nuren I got well over 100 kills at gatecamps in my last Muninn. Then I foolishly took it roaming and got killed. ;-) [Muninn, Gatecamp Muninn] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Damage Control II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M Standard Missile Launcher II, Sabretooth Light Missile Standard Missile Launcher II, Sabretooth Light Missile Targeting System Subcontroller I Targeting System Subcontroller I Warrior II x5 I feel that a second TE doesn't help nearly as much as a third Gyro. -Liang It's nice, but you can do the same with a Moa and 250 II's, save yourself a few mills. PROUD TO BE IN THE MATARI MILITIA
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2008.06.24 17:34:00 - [15] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 24/06/2008 17:34:40 Originally by: Antodias Muninns are one of the most common fleet ships in zerosec. How come? For popping frigates? --- Its dead, Jim.
Trojanman190 D00M.	Posted - 2008.06.24 17:37:00 - [16] Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 24/06/2008 17:34:40 Originally by: Antodias Muninns are one of the most common fleet ships in zerosec. How come? For popping frigates? Yup. The tracking is pretty awesome. The ship could use some work but there are problems with the game that need far more help than the muninn. [not hijack but the muninns problem is the amount of suck projectiles have to deal with]
RuriHoshino Stimulus	Posted - 2008.06.24 17:40:00 - [17] Originally by: AstroPhobic Originally by: SKINK0429 So its safe to say they suck? Wonder why I see so many about? I haven't seen a muninn in about a year. I bought one off my mate for 60mil and have regretted it since. Yikes. I'll pick it up from ye for 60, as long as it's not in bumfuk 0.0 or Caldari highsec. Munnins are ideal for popping those friggie fleets that roam lowsec these days... yum ________________
Liang Nuren Perkone	Posted - 2008.06.24 18:53:00 - [18] Originally by: Shinnen It's nice, but you can do the same with a Moa and 250 II's, save yourself a few mills. There is no Moa on the planet that instapops snaked gistii crows before they get up to speed. Just an FYI, but I got the pod too. -Liang -- It was an honor to participate in the Insurgency campaign in Branch. o7 to all involved.
brockers1	Posted - 2008.06.24 19:13:00 - [19] This ship is ace......ive used it alot in nano gangs. Most times its the highest alpha but then the amarr HAC's open up and way out damage this ship. same high and mids as most.... low 2 x OD T2 1 x Nano T2 1 x Gyro T2 1 x TE T2 Try this in a nano gang you will be disappointed, It's rare that you will be called primary...which is a winner as ive lost a couple of rapier's :).
P'uck	Posted - 2008.06.24 19:57:00 - [20] i ponder using MWD, SB II, TC II (cant recall the scripts atm) and a (drumroll) signal amplifier II in the lows instead of a TE II. I'm not sure, i guess its kinda situational, but i feel like the muninn could make use of that extra target sometimes.
Artemis Rose Eleckrostatik	Posted - 2008.06.24 20:11:00 - [21] Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Shinnen It's nice, but you can do the same with a Moa and 250 II's, save yourself a few mills. There is no Moa on the planet that instapops snaked gistii crows before they get up to speed. Just an FYI, but I got the pod too. -Liang Ehh.. you may be able to do it with a 720mm Howitzer t2 Moa . __________________________________________________ Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine. WTB Purple Nerf Bat.
Antodias North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.06.24 20:55:00 - [22] Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 24/06/2008 17:34:40 Originally by: Antodias Muninns are one of the most common fleet ships in zerosec. How come? For popping frigates? Well considering that interceptors and interdictors are basically the only things that can hold a fleet down in 0.0 (especially a battleship fleet), I'd saying being able to pop them is pretty damn important. And after that, you can still shoot everything else. :V
Shinnen Northern Intelligence	Posted - 2008.06.24 21:19:00 - [23] Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Shinnen It's nice, but you can do the same with a Moa and 250 II's, save yourself a few mills. There is no Moa on the planet that instapops snaked gistii crows before they get up to speed. Just an FYI, but I got the pod too. -Liang Aye yo you won't instapop the crow in a moa, but a large bubble up, some rapier in the gang will have webbed it easily before it gets out. Imho if you're in a gate camp fleet / gang at orvolle gate, you might as well go for Moa. You will also get the pod. PROUD TO BE IN THE MATARI MILITIA
Xaen Caritas.	Posted - 2008.06.24 21:28:00 - [24] Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Shinnen It's nice, but you can do the same with a Moa and 250 II's, save yourself a few mills. There is no Moa on the planet that instapops snaked gistii crows before they get up to speed. Just an FYI, but I got the pod too. -Liang I highlighted the triple distilled win for you. - Support fixing the UI\|Suggest Jita fixes\|Compact logs
Lyria Skydancer Eve Defence Force	Posted - 2008.06.25 00:42:00 - [25] Originally by: Hudsonn Yeh, but everytime i do that on the cane it dies It's amazing how much more survivable the muninn is. Also, fitting a muninn like that has the "surprise" factor. No one really expects it, cos peoples vauge idea of the muninn is that it's a sniper/notank or auto/mediocre armour tank. The times i've had where people didn't even notice where all that damage was coming from until they saw their lossmail. Oh trust me if it's anything frig pilots fear is to see muninns on their overview. It's actually the zealot that is underestimated in this role. Muninn is well known to volley inties. And to the people that think these arent used: Newsflash, I see several in fleets every day in 0.0 sec. ----------------------------------------- [Video] I'm a soldier, so remember the name
alpha charlie North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.06.25 00:51:00 - [26] Long range muninn: 5x 720m II 2 what ever 1x LSE II 2x SB II 3x Gyro II 2x TE II Rigs: 1x Acillary Current Router 1x speed rig hits out to 110 with domi Carb lead Rapes ceptors
Selous Ooops Inc. Infinite Innovation	Posted - 2008.06.26 13:37:00 - [27] Problems with the muninn 1) It has shield tank resists but armor tank slots 2) It has 8 slots (med + low ) every other HAC has 9 or 10 3) Its armor resists have 2 holes expl + kin , every other hac has 1 Shield booster + 2 invulns gives a decent tank but no room for mwd/ab/web/scram/injector. All other hacs can get decent omni resists by fitting 1 hardener + 1 invuln/eanm , munnin needs 2 hardners + eanm ( effectively a 1 slot penalty over other hacs). Add in the fact that muninn has 8 lows+meds against 9 or 10 for every other hac means that effectively it has 2 or 3 slots less then any other hac. To cure it and give it a normal hac tank would be fairly simple. Armor tanker Give it 2 extra slots either 2 lows , or 1 low + 1 med. Give it 1 extra low slot and increase either explosive or kinetic native armor resist to fill one of the holes Shield tanker Give it 5 meds and 4 lows ( 1 extra slot as 2 x invulns gives a decent shield tank) Versatanker increase either explosive or kinetic native armor resist to fill one of the holes and give it 1 extra med slot , ( would make this version either shield or armor tank capable , in keeping with a lot of mini ships) I have had a muninn from just about when they came out , never flown it in anger , taken it out many times , never found a fitting im happy with and put it back in the hanger . Use it as an untanked sniper ? , no thanks a domi with sentries does a lot more then it does for far less isk.
Saietor Blackgreen The First Foundation Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2008.06.26 13:44:00 - [28] OMG thats some of the most unrealistic and strange suggestions for Munin i've ever seen. All Munin needs is an extra medslot or a move of slot from high to med. The rest should be done by tweaking artilleries, not the Munin. --- Redesign local/scanner feature - make the place huge, dark and scary again!
Adril Alatar Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.06.26 13:47:00 - [29] Originally by: Dalek Commander Originally by: Hudsonn How to fit a muninn? -No tackle -Sheild -Gyro's -nano -Guns...missiles -19k fall off = Melts things. Just get a Hurricane then. Not as agile, but you'll get the same job done for a lot cheaper. Vagabond would do the same thing with the same fitting... but more than 2000m/s faster and 23km instead of 15km fall off
Angel Freedman	Posted - 2008.06.28 23:54:00 - [30] Hello, I've just got into a muninn last week and I have been having a lot of fun dishing out the damage. I have not gotten a chance to pop a ceptor yet but i got a quick ammo question for the muninn. To insta pop ceptors I should use faction carbon ammo instead of tremor to take advantage of it's tracking bonus right? If I am shooting at a bc size or larger the tremor should work fine right because the target is so large and far away the tracking isn't as big an issue? With my current skills the tremor shoots out about 11km further than my carbon ammo, does more damage on paper but I trade it off with a lot less tracking. Just need a few quick tips on range, situation, ship types for my 720mm with tremor versus carbon.

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