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Niding
Polaris Project Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.24 17:41:00 -
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Edited by: Niding on 24/06/2008 17:42:55
Had a chat with Hardin after he returned from CSM meet on Iceland, and he pointed out that the issue with limited standingslots was one of database issue/lag.
Pezzle suggested to raise the number of standingslots in the thread below;
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=789692
But since CCP seems to have software/hardware issues with this I suggest purging inactive corps and alliances that remain in the database with standingslots assigned to them.
This will free up ALOT of slots that are assigned to no avail, and hopefully free up database resources for CCP. |

Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2008.06.24 18:19:00 -
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seems a good idea. Just have work on defining how we decide they are inactive - ie how long since last activity - which rules determine they are inactive etc etc. Do corps need an upkeep cost like alliances have now? Would not paying that get them scrubbed from the database?
CSM Manifesto 2008 | Destroy Outposts! |

Bad Harlequin
Chiroptera Factor
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Posted - 2008.06.24 19:19:00 -
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Can't support this. Some of us occasionally go away for a while; sometimes accounts go inactive, sometimes they're maintained to keep up skill training but have minimal use. It'd be disincentive to return knowing your corp may vanish, and that seems footbullet to CCP.
Besides, who knows if/when someone may crank up an old corp again? Losing that history and structure would kinda suck. There's always a chance it comes back online again, for RP or Alliance or Pewpewpew or any other reason we want. I can't imagine, with the raw computing power CCP has going for it, cleaning out X number of corps is *really* having that much effect on allowable warslots?
I'd be open to considering this if we could get something quantitative from CCP regarding this.
Full disclosure: yeah, i'm thinking of Oracle. Sue me. 
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Niding
Polaris Project Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.24 19:54:00 -
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Bad Harlequin:
I defintly agree with you that there are concerns about corp/alliance history, AND as Jade pointed out; how to impliment it/judge who are inactive.
It all comes down to wether or not the database will greatly benefit from such a purge.
This is something only CCP can answer. Since they did indicate that Corps/Alliances had an impact on their database, its something CCP could look into and see if its worth the performance gain VS loss of corp/alliance history.
If a corp/Alliance is deleted, it could always be reactivated, but ofcourse someone could claim the identity right infront of your nose.
As a fellow roleplayer I defintly see the need to hang on to ones past/history and I see your concern. |

LaVista Vista
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Posted - 2008.06.24 20:00:00 -
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Just no.
I can see why you would do it. But the data resources, from what I understand, is not the issue. Inactive corps doesn't add load. It's just standings that is the issue and the way it works.
So really, I guess there is just too many concerns with this without benefits. I suppose alliances just have to manage their standings.
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Finedele
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.06.24 23:09:00 -
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Edited by: Finedele on 24/06/2008 23:08:57 I dont think the reason for this upcoming is not managing of standings, but rather the difficulties you have to face wenn founding a new corp. many names and tickers are already used, looking some corps up you find them to be a one man show. as i am not a friend of such, i support this :)
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VheroKai
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
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Posted - 2008.06.26 01:49:00 -
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Edited by: VheroKai on 26/06/2008 01:50:13 Not the corp deletion, but removal of standings to that corp if CEO/Directors haven't logged in for 3 months. For alliances, if there are no alliance ruler out there for the same time.
That way, corps will have their standing slots freed without bothering to check if the subjected corp/ally alive (shall I prefix it with "still" clause?)
P.S. Would help dealing with zombies too... --sig--
Originally by: Bunyip The LOLqual is a capital-sized joke
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