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Joe Risalo
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.13 18:46:00 -
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I've seen a lot of threads come through the features and Ideas discussion that are great ideas. I've also seen a lot of terrible ideas come through.
Both of these types of threads have had several pages of players agreeing and disagreeing. The one thing they're all missing is a Dev comment.
Sure, most of the Dev's might have something better to do, but sticking your head in occasionally to make a comment would sooth players over quite a bit.
Firstly, it would kill off the threads that are terrible ideas, such as moving lvl 4 missions out of high sec, if a Dev would just post and say "not gonna happen."
There are also some threads that have great ideas such as basically any thread asking for a buff to Marauders, yet no one bothers to say "We're looking into it" or "We're happy with them the way they are."
Sure, players would like to know exactly why they don't wanna change something, or what changes they plan on Making for something they said they're working on, but the ultimate goal here is to appease the players.
We're not asking for you to use our ideas, we're just asking that you notice the problem and address it.
Do we like getting new ships and modules? Hell yes, but a lot of us would rather see the current ships and modules balanced a bit better first.
We just wanna know that you're listening and actually care about what we're saying. However, the way it sits now, the lack of responses from dev's or even GM's just kinda says to the players "We don't care cause all of these threads will die on their own in time, and we won't have to listen to you, until the next thread exactly like it comes along."
It seems the only features and ideas threads the Devs care about are the ones they've created, and even then the only comments that seem to come out from the dev's is the OP, and every once in a while a GM will throw out their idea.
So again, I'm not saying the Dev's have to come in and say they're considering our ideas, but the occassional "no" or "that's a good idea" or "we're currently looking into this" would settle players tremendously.
If you do have information on a change that's being made, then please let us know, because these same threads on the same topics keep popping up and the words of the players continue to go unnoticed.
So do us a favor and at least let us know you're listening, considering our suggestions, completely disagree with us, or have some information on the topic every once in a while.
Cause if you don't, we that care enough to post suggestions will continue to post the same crap over and over again, and if you don't believe that the same topics will keep popping up, then you obviously haven't been paying any attention to the threads at all.
Sincerely,
Joe Ris |
Buzzy Warstl
Huron Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.03.13 18:53:00 -
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The devs can't really comment here.
Spoilers. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:01:00 -
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Hopefully they are working on fixing EvE and giving us new content. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Joe Risalo
State War Academy Caldari State
195
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:02:00 -
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Buzzy Warstl wrote:The devs can't really comment here.
Spoilers.
LIke I said though, i'm not asking for all the information they have, but they can at least let us know that they care and are listening. |
Velicitia
Open Designs
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:11:00 -
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pretty much what Buzzy said ... they're all ~excited~ about the stuff they're making and will probably say too much.
That said, they do come through here from time to time to read things (also, if they commented on any of the ideas, there'd be a shitstorm from people who have terrible ideas thinking they deserve dev attention). |
Joe Risalo
State War Academy Caldari State
196
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:25:00 -
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Velicitia wrote:pretty much what Buzzy said ... they're all ~excited~ about the stuff they're making and will probably say too much.
That said, they do come through here from time to time to read things (also, if they commented on any of the ideas, there'd be a shitstorm from people who have terrible ideas thinking they deserve dev attention).
that's why they go into their threads and say "no" |
Velicitia
Open Designs
784
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:38:00 -
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Joe Risalo wrote:Velicitia wrote:pretty much what Buzzy said ... they're all ~excited~ about the stuff they're making and will probably say too much.
That said, they do come through here from time to time to read things (also, if they commented on any of the ideas, there'd be a shitstorm from people who have terrible ideas thinking they deserve dev attention). that's why they go into their threads and say "no"
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mxzf
Shovel Bros
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:44:00 -
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I prefer to just go into those threads and post "Why?" instead. It typically shoots down most threads right away (though very few posters actually seem to realize it, they'll keep arguing for pages afterwards sometimes). |
Miss Whippy
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
112
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Posted - 2012.03.14 13:50:00 -
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I agree, the occasional indication that they are at least taking note of our ideas wouldn't kill them. A lot of people devote a lot of time to posting on these forums. Time to-áCOMPLETELY REDESIGN THE U.I. FROM SCRATCH: - End the click fest & Multiple Window fest - Streamline and Simplify it-á - Improve scalability-á |
The Hamilton
Definitive Exploration and Excavations The Watchmen.
4
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:11:00 -
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mxzf wrote:I prefer to just go into those threads and post "Why?" instead. It typically shoots down most threads right away (though very few posters actually seem to realize it, they'll keep arguing for pages afterwards sometimes).
Personally I would just like to say Thanks! |
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LORD DRAGUIL
AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
7
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Posted - 2012.03.14 22:42:00 -
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to answer your question Where the dev's at? well they were last seen havin a practice session of drinking leaving a local bar , they tend to get ready for fanfest this time of year !! |
Leto Aramaus
Ixion Defence Systems Tactical Narcotics Team
32
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Posted - 2012.03.21 23:03:00 -
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I searched for this thread just to find it and bump it, keep this thread at the top people.
Players, start demanding to be heard. CCP is a crap company and they don't deserve to run EVE. Yea, I'm that raged.
I can only think of one thread in the features and ideas forum that was responded to by a CCP dev, (other than stickies) and can't think of a single idea posted here that was implemented in the game.
I say we go on strike and all cancel our subscriptions until CCP starts paying attention to the players, but that is never going to happen, and I certainly am not going to do it just on principle.
So I guess I'll just say, I hate you CCP, I hate you so so much.
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Joe Risalo
State War Academy Caldari State
202
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Posted - 2012.03.21 23:50:00 -
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Leto Aramaus wrote:I searched for this thread just to find it and bump it, keep this thread at the top people.
Players, start demanding to be heard. CCP is a crap company and they don't deserve to run EVE. Yea, I'm that raged.
I can only think of one thread in the features and ideas forum that was responded to by a CCP dev, (other than stickies) and can't think of a single idea posted here that was implemented in the game.
I say we go on strike and all cancel our subscriptions until CCP starts paying attention to the players, but that is never going to happen, and I certainly am not going to do it just on principle.
So I guess I'll just say, I hate you CCP, I hate you so so much.
Yeah, unfortunately the people that we seem to be completely annoyed with because they don't listen to a single complaint we have. They simply wait for the thread to die, or don't expand it so that it kills itself.
However, even though they don't really listen to us and are extremely weak at implementing balances that they and the players deam need to be done in a timely fassion, they still have created the greatest MMO on the market.
Their ability to fix issues the players seem to think is a problem is about as good as their promotional capabilities.... |
Ines Tegator
Towels R Us
156
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Posted - 2012.03.22 00:49:00 -
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Compare the discussion on this thread with the dev blog about ship balancing. They took our arguments straight up, even some of the same phrasing (note, I'm not referring to the skill changes, they did that on their own. I'm referring to comments about the actual hulls). So yes, they definately read it, and when it's a good (and popular) idea, it does get used. That's pretty much the best proof you can get without one of them posting to confirm it. |
Galphii
Furnulum pani nolo THE SPACE P0LICE
35
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Posted - 2012.03.22 01:38:00 -
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It seems to me they've got plenty of ideas and stuff to work on already, but we'll hear about this over the next few days. |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
615
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Posted - 2012.03.22 01:59:00 -
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I don't think I've ever seen a Dev post in F&I. On this or the old forums.
It really is where ideas go to die (until they surprise us with something "new"). |
Joe Risalo
State War Academy Caldari State
202
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Posted - 2012.03.22 18:08:00 -
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Blatant Forum Alt
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
52
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Posted - 2012.03.22 20:34:00 -
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F&I (like the Assembly Hall) is full of idea men filling up the forum with their ill conceived crap. While there are a handful of genuinely good ideas, the vast majority of suggestions are shockingly poor, and all ideas are trolled to death... you would need to give the devs a large pay increase to get them to sift through the piles of crud and comment on the decent ideas. |
Joe Risalo
State War Academy Caldari State
203
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Posted - 2012.03.23 15:14:00 -
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Qen Tye
The Varangian Guard. United We Stand.
7
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Posted - 2012.03.23 15:26:00 -
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Leto Aramaus wrote:I searched for this thread just to find it and bump it, keep this thread at the top people.
Players, start demanding to be heard. CCP is a crap company and they don't deserve to run EVE. Yea, I'm that raged.
I can only think of one thread in the features and ideas forum that was responded to by a CCP dev, (other than stickies) and can't think of a single idea posted here that was implemented in the game.
I say we go on strike and all cancel our subscriptions until CCP starts paying attention to the players, but that is never going to happen, and I certainly am not going to do it just on principle.
So I guess I'll just say, I hate you CCP, I hate you so so much.
Why are you still here if you hate it so much ?
Seriously- 1) Cancel your subscription 2) Uninstall EVE 3) Install [new game] 4) Have fun playing [new game]
.. /fixed
On topic I do not think they do not read the forums but I think they reserve the right to barge in and I think they are letting us debate and argue each idea in order to see what we, the customers, conclude.
Stomping your feet, tears in corner of eyes demanding an answer for sure is not gonna make them answer. If my daughter do that she is in bigger trouble than before she began and can go to her room until she behave. |
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