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Niivvy
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.06.25 16:24:00 -
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Alcoholic elderflower champagne?
im makin this soft drink but im gonna ferment it for 8 days to make it alcholic. I thought the yeasts in the flowers would start a fremintation but after 2 days nothing is happening, will it be ok to add vinters yeast or does it HAVE to be brewers yeast?
should i start the yeast culture up in some sugar and add it liquid or just bung the dried yeast right in?
thanks
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Micheal Dietrich
Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.06.25 16:27:00 -
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Lemme know if your kitchen blows up. Took my friend forever to clean his but it cool as hell.
 Originally by: El'tar
I WOULD WARRIOR FOR WOMAN BELONG TO ME!
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Niivvy
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.06.25 16:40:00 -
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i got plans for that,
its going in 2 ltr plastic bottles so i can let out the gas slowley if they start to bulge
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Ethidium Bromide
ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.25 17:35:00 -
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so you better don't go to sleep....
Originally by: George Petsch
Nochricht: Dei schwarer StroinlSser trifftn Karli[Baatzis] und ruiniert erm so richtig de Dosn, 1343.7 schhodn, oida.
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Niivvy
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.06.25 17:49:00 -
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would take more 12h for them to explode. prob a few days, plastic bottles can take a lot of pressure
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Xrak
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.25 18:51:00 -
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RTFM.
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Elysarian
dudetruck corp
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Posted - 2008.06.25 20:00:00 -
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ok....
I'll be over here, a few streets away 
My dad tried homebrewing once - the CO2 can build up a lot quicker than you think (he had several bottles explode overnight)
I'd advise fermenting in a container designed for the purpose with some sort of pressure relief valve in the top (demijohn?)
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Niivvy
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.06.25 20:03:00 -
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yea im gonna do some of the fermintation in a plastic bucket, which takes me back to the original question.
Will it maker much diffrence if i use brewers or vinters yeast?
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Elysarian
dudetruck corp
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Posted - 2008.06.25 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: Niivvy
yea im gonna do some of the fermintation in a plastic bucket, which takes me back to the original question.
Will it maker much diffrence if i use brewers or vinters yeast?
Vintner's yeast is bred to survive at higher alcohol levels than brewer's yeast.
so if you want your finished drink to be stronger than about 5 or 6% ABV then go for the Vintner's.
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Niivvy
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.06.25 20:16:00 -
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Edited by: Niivvy on 25/06/2008 20:16:12
vintner's it is
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Elysarian
dudetruck corp
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Posted - 2008.06.25 20:40:00 -
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Looking at your Sig pic has reminded me of something I've always wanted to try Niivvy...
What would happen if you put neat vodka in a soda stream?
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Micia
Thrace Inc
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.06.25 20:54:00 -
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You don't want to use plastic 2-liter bottles. Use either glass or food-grade plastic. And ideally an airlock, so the gasses can escape, but no air gets in.
You can get a basic brewing setup for about $120. Great investment. 
You don't just bung dried yeast in. On the back of the yeast packet it should list the temperature needed to activate the yeast. Add to water at that temp for a while.
Good luck with your project. Tbh, I'm not sure it's going to be drinkable - but then again, you do have a sodastream. |
Shikari Wolf
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Posted - 2008.07.25 00:52:00 -
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Edited by: Shikari Wolf on 25/07/2008 00:54:22
Edited by: Shikari Wolf on 25/07/2008 00:52:40
niivvys alt here
been brewing this shit for a month now, so heres the updade.
The mistake was to use vinters yeast, it fermented far longer than i expected. still fermenting tbh, but its starting to clear now.
i should have used brewers yeast but as i used vinters it has a much higher alcholl content ( not thats that bad
BTW)
it tastes like an alchoholic flowery mix, its not to bad at all. i had 2 glasses of the unsettled mix and i feel rather tipsey.
its recoimended and i guess it will taste better with time.
g-day all
booyaka
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Rhanna Khurin
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.07.25 00:55:00 -
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Isn't Elderflower champagne just elderflower wine with gas in it?
If so just folow the many guides about making the wine and add gas later. bobs ya uncle.
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Shikari Wolf
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Posted - 2008.07.25 01:27:00 -
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Edited by: Shikari Wolf on 25/07/2008 01:29:13
nope,
the wine is made from elderberries, this is as far as im concerned, untried,
and its awsome btw, brew it form 5 weeks and drink it with some lime juice, its freekin awsome
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The TX
Gallente
Earth Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.25 11:15:00 -
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Isn't fermenting or distilling your own booze illegal?
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Buff Plankchest
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Posted - 2008.07.25 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: The TX
Isn't fermenting or distilling your own booze illegal?
Only if you get caught 
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The TX
Gallente
Earth Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.25 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: Buff Plankchest
Originally by: The TX
Isn't fermenting or distilling your own booze illegal?
Only if you get caught
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.07.25 12:14:00 -
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Brewing you say! Sounds like I should introduce you to the GHSC's tactical drinkmaster.
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.07.25 12:34:00 -
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Originally by: Niivvy
Alcoholic elderflower champagne?
im makin this soft drink but im gonna ferment it for 8 days to make it alcholic. I thought the yeasts in the flowers would start a fremintation but after 2 days nothing is happening, will it be ok to add vinters yeast or does it HAVE to be brewers yeast?
should i start the yeast culture up in some sugar and add it liquid or just bung the dried yeast right in?
thanks
wtf niivy 
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NTRabbit
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.07.25 12:47:00 -
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Hello! I'm the GHSC Tactical Drinkmaster, and I've been brewing for a few years now.
Firstly, yeast does not come from flowers. Trying to use wild yeast is a good way to make yourself sick, unless you happen to live inside one of the few Lambic breweries in a very specific location in Belgium.
Secondly, it is not correct to say that Vintners yeast is meant for higher alcohol final products - there are many different species of yeast, each kind performing slightly differently in various areas that lends them to particular kinds of beer or wine. I personally have a few yeast samples capable of surviving around 15% ABV, and the highest genuine beer yeast so far goes all the way up to 25%. For brewing wine, it is preferable to use the more neutral vintners yeasts, and a dry champagne yeast is readily available (brewers often use it to restart a stuck fermentation, as a late yeast addition, or even in ciders and meads)
Starting a yeast culture in sugar water was a good idea, but the yeast needs more than that - you also need to add yeast nutrient, which provides nourishment not available in simple table sugars.
Finally, the legality - for many years home brewing was illegal in quite a few countries. Here in Australia it has been legal for nearly 40 years, and it has been legal in the US for at least 2 decades if i recall correctly. I also know it to be legal in the UK, New Zealand and Canada, others you need to look up. Home distilling is an entirely different kettle of fish - as far as I'm aware, home distilling is illegal everywhere except New Zealand, and it's only legal there because the government decided to save time and blow a loophole in legislation wide open, rather than close it. Distillation equipment can still be purchased, ostensibly for the distillation of water and essential oils, and the ingredients can be bought easily and seperately, but the rest is entirely your own responsibility.
Any other questions? 
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