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Khirzan Wolfson
MicroFunks
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Posted - 2008.06.26 07:07:00 -
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Edited by: Khirzan Wolfson on 26/06/2008 07:08:30
First off: HELLO to anyone who knows me...I re-activated and am meandering around eve.
After being in FW for a few days, I am curious to see what all you folks think about it relating to 0.0 alliances. I see what CCP is attempting with FW, I just don't see it coming into realization quite yet. Its quite humorous to see blobs of nubs attack each other....the total shock some of them have at the lag is a refreshing and funny thing to me. First off, the corp I am a member of supports the Gallente militia. The Caldari "calamari" are an interesting foe...the amarr are non-existant for the most part. however it comes down to the blob wars of empire..which I find real funny. I came in hoping it would be something like the high-time of the Privateers, as that was a ton of fun on my alt )thx ccp for destroying a wonderful alliance).
It just seems to me that when people want to leave FW and tryout for 0.0, they wouldnt have really learned anything except how to desynch....no one focus's fire or gets proper setups....maybe im just expecting more.
But either way, I wanted to open this up to CAOD discussion mainly because im interested in what everyone has to say and well...CAOD kicks arse. 
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 Playin that funky music since 1983
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Angelonico
Series of Tubes
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Posted - 2008.06.26 07:26:00 -
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Amarr are certainly learning how to suicide t1 cruisers ^^
I'll go with yes.
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EVIL SYNNs
dearg doom
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Posted - 2008.06.26 07:26:00 -
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It will help. I've noticed in the past 2 weeks a load of people who can't handle 0.0 FC's. The no talking in comms, the "help I'm in trouble" and "I'm going to die, I don't want to die" followed by the FC shouting STFU and die already! are leaving and going back to missions and mining.
So it saves moving all your stuff out to 0.0 just to run back to mommy when the FC's are strict (which they normally are in 0.0)
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Asuka Smith
The Defias Brotherhood
DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2008.06.26 09:01:00 -
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0.0 is so hardcore empire noobs just cannot handle it
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Lilan Kahn
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.06.26 09:12:00 -
[5]
 Originally by: Asuka Smith
0.0 is so hardcore empire noobs just cannot handle it
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Leeme Lone
x13
X13 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.26 11:12:00 -
[6]
Originally by: Asuka Smith
0.0 is so hardcore empire noobs just cannot handle it
and thats how goonswarm was formed
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sakana
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.26 11:18:00 -
[7]
wow, blast from the past :o
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.26 11:21:00 -
[8]
Originally by: Leeme Lone
Originally by: Asuka Smith
0.0 is so hardcore empire noobs just cannot handle it
and thats how goonswarm was formed
I'll counter this with "x13 sucks". Beat this.
-clp
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Stientolical
Atomic Heroes
Souls of Vengeance
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Posted - 2008.06.26 11:34:00 -
[9]
Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson
It just seems to me that when people want to leave FW and tryout for 0.0, they wouldnt have really learned anything except how to desynch....no one focus's fire or gets proper setups....maybe im just expecting more.
^^
Also FW has no alliance leaders so theres no emofailurecascade capability, though someone may find a way...  There's also no POS bashing (unless your in caldari), no 300 vs 300 cap fights and no bubbles, also limited use of EW etc etc though that may change if someone bothers to teach them...
Stien
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Anton Marx
Warhamsters
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.06.26 11:42:00 -
[10]
Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson
Edited by: Khirzan Wolfson on 26/06/2008 07:08:30
First off: HELLO to anyone who knows me...I re-activated and am meandering around eve.
After being in FW for a few days, I am curious to see what all you folks think about it relating to 0.0 alliances. I see what CCP is attempting with FW, I just don't see it coming into realization quite yet. Its quite humorous to see blobs of nubs attack each other....the total shock some of them have at the lag is a refreshing and funny thing to me. First off, the corp I am a member of supports the Gallente militia. The Caldari "calamari" are an interesting foe...the amarr are non-existant for the most part. however it comes down to the blob wars of empire..which I find real funny. I came in hoping it would be something like the high-time of the Privateers, as that was a ton of fun on my alt )thx ccp for destroying a wonderful alliance).
It just seems to me that when people want to leave FW and tryout for 0.0, they wouldnt have really learned anything except how to desynch....no one focus's fire or gets proper setups....maybe im just expecting more.
But either way, I wanted to open this up to CAOD discussion mainly because im interested in what everyone has to say and well...CAOD kicks arse.
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Hey there are tons of 0.0 alliances that do not focus fire and do not have proper setups and yet they flourish. KOS springs to mind. oh wai...
DESTROYED
Against ALL Authorities блять! (c) Ivan Wise |
Stientolical
Atomic Heroes
Souls of Vengeance
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Posted - 2008.06.26 11:48:00 -
[11]
\o Anton
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Jebidus Skari
Comply Or Die
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Posted - 2008.06.26 12:44:00 -
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not at all IMO, FW have no leaders as such , no direction, its just a pew pew fest, and with alot of noob FCs and blobs that get wiped out, that shouldnt. 0.0 Alliances are so much different, work closer together etc, and the consequences are real. In FW what have you got lose really, a ship..Its very much a battlegrounds arena.
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TroNaaR
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.26 14:57:00 -
[13]
o/ Khirzan Wolfson
Long time no see, welcome back!
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Princess Jodi
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.26 16:14:00 -
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o/ Khirzan
I don't thing FW will teach them anything about Alliances. It may teach them some about PVP and Fleet combat, but not about Alliances.
Besides all the differences between low-sec combat and 0.0 combat such as bubbles, jumpbridges, pos warfare, etc. there is the big problem of Logistics and Politics.
Alliance Logistics can make or break an alliance. An Alliance sits on wealth-generating space which it simply has to exploit. In Empire, any schmoe in a Drake can rat your belts. POS's and fuel and moving items to/from Empire are all important parts of and Alliance, and FW will teach them nothing about that.
Alliance Politics is a huge deal that will not have any bearing on FW. While FW might fight over who is to FC tonight, you have infighting in Alliances over control of the Alliance. An Alliance must maintain a list of Blues and Reds, which really can't change quickly as they become intertwined with other allies.
Its much harder for an individual pilot to be exploited in FW. Alliance Leaders control your game much more in 0.0 - say for example you don't show up on ops or **** off the wrong person. In an Alliance, you'll suddenly find yourself locked out of the stations where you have all your stuff with no recourse to get at it. You'll be kicked and hunted. That Fear can be used to motivate memebers or dicipline those who 'need' it. Just remember that the average Pilot does not get to be the one wielding that power.
I'm actually a big fan of FW, although my Alliance roles prevent me from taking part. So don't take this post as a criticizm of FW. I would say that FW is a good PVP stepping stone, but teaching about Alliances? No.
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E Vile
The Older Gamers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.06.26 21:02:00 -
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Edited by: E Vile on 26/06/2008 21:05:33
Faction Wars=All the fun of PVP without the bull^$%# of the horrid politics and scams of 0.0 alliances, but none of the real gain like 0.0
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Jones Bones
Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2008.06.26 22:21:00 -
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Some play EVE as Counterstrike in space.
FW is Counterstrike in space.
Some play EVE as RL in space.
0.0 alliances are RL in space.
As long as everyone is having fun, who cares?
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MirrorGod
Heretic Militia
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Posted - 2008.06.27 07:15:00 -
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Edited by: MirrorGod on 27/06/2008 07:17:32
Edited by: MirrorGod on 27/06/2008 07:15:40
No, FW will not teach empire noobs how horrible it is waiting 3 days for a carrier jump to some backwater 0.0 region
No, FW will not teach empire noobs how soul-destroying it is to anchor a POS
No, FW will not teach empire noobs how to wait around for 2 weeks in a rally-point low-sec system waiting for docking rights.
No, FW will not teach empire noobs how to spam dreadnoughts on POS's while camping gates for 10 hours.
No, FW will not teach empire noobs that you can't rat in this system. You can rat in that one. No wait, no you can't
No, FW will not teach empire noobs how to bubble everything in sight
No, FW will not teach empire noobs how to lag out when you have 15 motherships and 500 fighters dropped on you
No, FW will not teach empire noobs how to feul that same POS when the next carrier jump is 3 days away.
No, FW will not teach empire noobs how to half-fit a raven because your 0.0 market is crap.
No, FW will not teach empire noobs "what the hell do you mean you don't have enough fuel to jump?"
No, FW will not teach empire noobs Everyone pay me 10 mil for the monthly fees.
No, FW will not teach empire noobs "I just came back after 6 months and 2 bil of my assets are docked in a hostile station"
Recruitment: [ANTI]
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Fallorn
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.27 07:22:00 -
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Originally by: MirrorGod
Edited by: MirrorGod on 27/06/2008 07:17:32
Edited by: MirrorGod on 27/06/2008 07:15:40
No, FW will not teach empire noobs how horrible it is waiting 3 days for a carrier jump to some backwater 0.0 region
No, FW will not teach empire noobs how soul-destroying it is to anchor a POS
No, FW will not teach empire noobs how to wait around for 2 weeks in a rally-point low-sec system waiting for docking rights.
No, FW will not teach empire noobs how to spam dreadnoughts on POS's while camping gates for 10 hours.
No, FW will not teach empire noobs that you can't rat in this system. You can rat in that one. No wait, no you can't
No, FW will not teach empire noobs how to bubble everything in sight
No, FW will not teach empire noobs how to lag out when you have 15 motherships and 500 fighters dropped on you
No, FW will not teach empire noobs how to feul that same POS when the next carrier jump is 3 days away.
No, FW will not teach empire noobs how to half-fit a raven because your 0.0 market is crap.
No, FW will not teach empire noobs "what the hell do you mean you don't have enough fuel to jump?"
No, FW will not teach empire noobs Everyone pay me 10 mil for the monthly fees.
No, FW will not teach empire noobs "I just came back after 6 months and 2 bil of my assets are docked in a hostile station"
0.0 markets are not crap. Well at least goon ones.
Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug
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Krystian
Caldari
Luminaire Atrocity
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Posted - 2008.06.27 07:23:00 -
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Edited by: Krystian on 27/06/2008 07:24:49
Originally by: MirrorGod
Edited by: MirrorGod on 27/06/2008 07:17:32
Edited by: MirrorGod on 27/06/2008 07:15:40
No, FW will not teach empire noobs how horrible it is waiting 3 days for a carrier jump to some backwater 0.0 region
No, FW will not teach empire noobs how soul-destroying it is to anchor a POS
No, FW will not teach empire noobs how to wait around for 2 weeks in a rally-point low-sec system waiting for docking rights.
No, FW will not teach empire noobs how to spam dreadnoughts on POS's while camping gates for 10 hours.
No, FW will not teach empire noobs that you can't rat in this system. You can rat in that one. No wait, no you can't
No, FW will not teach empire noobs how to bubble everything in sight
No, FW will not teach empire noobs how to lag out when you have 15 motherships and 500 fighters dropped on you
No, FW will not teach empire noobs how to feul that same POS when the next carrier jump is 3 days away.
No, FW will not teach empire noobs how to half-fit a raven because your 0.0 market is crap.
No, FW will not teach empire noobs "what the hell do you mean you don't have enough fuel to jump?"
No, FW will not teach empire noobs Everyone pay me 10 mil for the monthly fees.
No, FW will not teach empire noobs "I just came back after 6 months and 2 bil of my assets are docked in a hostile station"
Amen brother. Was about to say something similar. I think FW has something to teach 0.0. Allot in-fact. MirrorGod summed it up quite nicely.
CCP please take the good part of FW in empire, implement it into 0.0 and make it Alliance Warfare. Redo that horrid boring ass pos system. Eye gouging tedium of assembling, dissembling, killing them, being killed and LAAAAGGGGG. Yes fighting Shrike in a Titan in 49-u was so exciting with 8-20 minute delays. Please if you want to fix what IS broken fix POS and Cap warfare.
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Omeega
UA Industry
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.27 08:09:00 -
[20]
Originally by: MirrorGod
Not-one-sided-view-rant at all.
No, FW will not teach empire noobs to be able to daily lose Battleships and beeing able to reimburse them through team mining ops, corp reimbursement programs or complexes.
No, FW will not allow empire noobs to see multiple supercapitals in a full use.
No, FW will not allow empire noobs to be part of EVE's most epics capital fights.
No, FW will not teach empire noobs to become independant, smart, local watching, enemy movement anticipating killing machines.
No, FW will not teach empire noobs to discover the whole deep 0.0 logistic EVE part, from mining POSes to deathstars, from jumpbridges to cynojammers.
No, FW will not teach empire noobs to get Doomsdayed the first time, learn to align the second time but warping too late and be safe on the 3rd time.
No, FW will not show empire noobs how great it can be to succesfuly plan a hotdrop on an enemy capitals/supercapitals force.
No, FW will not show empire noobs how it can be great to be part of the creation of supercapitals and, once the ship is out of the CSAA, beeing able to say, "Hey, I helped for that"
No, FW will not teach empire noobs how to adapt to difficulties.
No, FW will not teach empire noobs how to survive against a deathstar in amazingly tanked BS'es remote repping eachoter.
No, FW will not allow empire noobs the joy of surviving a Doomsday and continuing shooting your target.
No, FW will not allow empire noobs to discover the feeling of having your enemy blocked inside his own stations, with all his assets in it.
No, FW will not allow empire noobs to understand what "killing" an alliance means, alongside with the "haha you fail" on COAD part and the usual firesales.
No, FW will not allow empire noobs to sit back, and enjoy your empire.
No, FW will not allow empire noobs to discover the 0.0 politics/tricks.
No, FW will not allow empire noobs to fight for their alliance they created, took stations to grow in and develop itself.
No, FW will not allow empire noobs to understand every step they make in 0.0 can be irreversible and could probably mean the end of your alliance and the losses of all your assets.
No, FW will not allow empire noobs to understand why 0.0 players are using 94% of New Eden's tinfoil rolls.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Zurasa
Imperial Command
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Posted - 2008.06.27 08:20:00 -
[21]
Originally by: Cippalippus Primus
Originally by: Leeme Lone
Originally by: Asuka Smith
0.0 is so hardcore empire noobs just cannot handle it
and thats how goonswarm was formed
I'll counter this with "x13 sucks". Beat this.
Take NOL.
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Omeega
UA Industry
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.27 08:25:00 -
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All 0.0 players can easily play in the FW system, not the other way around - ever.
FW learns players how to "lock" and use their modules to kill ships.
FW make lonely players look mighty more powerfull while flying next to more than a hunderd caracals.
But as they aren't proper alliances, there isn't a proper leadership, with adapted objectives and goals, with a person you are forced to listen to and that you know is competent. There can always be someone who can come and sh1ts in your cheerios saying "No, I don't want to listen to you..."
You can't control with who you'll be flying, you can't control the quality of the pilots you're flying with, you can't rely on their help in case of "Uho, this is not going good" you can't even kick a guy who merits to be kicked.
So what, the answer to the problem is going to be "hey, Omeega, you're pretty stupid, I'm not forced to fly with all the other****gots who are fighting for the same militia than me!"
Ok then, that's pretty true. But why not keep a corp founded with trusty pilots and declare war on other empire entities? The only reason I see is "because there is a ****load of members involved in FW, therefore a ****load of targets!"
Just saying I'll prolly end up putting an alt in FW for the "Oh crap I only have half hour to play let's get a few fun ganks to pump a bit of adrenaline before eating dinner" but it won't subtitute my 0.0 expierience, at all.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Omeega
UA Industry
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.27 08:37:00 -
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Edited by: Omeega on 27/06/2008 08:37:53
Spain, three points.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Squably
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.06.27 08:47:00 -
[24]
 NO
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ranna sleeper
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.06.27 10:50:00 -
[25]
Originally by: Fallorn
0.0 markets are not crap. Well at least goon ones.
he's got a point, back when i was out there 66 and surrounding stations was like the best place to get what you need, granted a bit higher then empire but i never went w/o the proper fittings for my improper setups. same goes for venom hq, though cant remember who owned that station :P
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Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2008.06.27 10:56:00 -
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nah fw wont teach noobs how alliances works everyone already knows its the founders leaders get rich and free titans and moms etc while the people who actually fight and lose ships day in and day out get **** all.
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Omeega
UA Industry
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.27 11:08:00 -
[27]
Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII
nah fw wont teach noobs how alliances works everyone already knows its the founders leaders get rich and free titans and moms etc while the people who actually fight and lose ships day in and day out get **** all.
But as there's a special exploit forcing the people who actualy fight and lose ships day in and day out to stay inside the alliance, rich alliance founders keep getting richer and richer.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2008.06.27 14:39:00 -
[28]
Originally by: Omeega
Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII
nah fw wont teach noobs how alliances works everyone already knows its the founders leaders get rich and free titans and moms etc while the people who actually fight and lose ships day in and day out get **** all.
But as there's a special exploit forcing the people who actualy fight and lose ships day in and day out to stay inside the alliance, rich alliance founders keep getting richer and richer.
Nah i quit the alliance game its easy enough just quit your corp i only fight and die for myself and my corp mates now and its not as if you need an alliance to live in 0.0
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mingmin
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Posted - 2008.06.27 14:58:00 -
[29]
PHEW..... at last factional warfare....a place that "normal" peeps can have some fun in eve, were we dont have to listen to the ball**** of 0.0 alliances and there exploits, wether it be scamming those 10/10 plexs or having free bpo's of dev's. Or listening to the arrogence of alliance leaders that think by just allowing you in the corp/alliance and giving you access to a few belts, gives them an excuse to tell you to loose ship upon ship for there moon mining operations and multi billion weekly isk operations, that you will never gain from, or see the rewards.
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Tenacha Khan
Corp 1 Allstars
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Posted - 2008.06.27 15:20:00 -
[30]
No I dont think that FW will teach players how to form or become part of a 0.0 alliance.
On another note, lol at the alliance elitist attitude here viewing all players in empire as noobs when you all were one at some point. The bast majority of people in 0.0 are clueless sheep following carebears; who follow pre-determined tactics made by the people in their alliance that actually have a clue.
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Gokil
North Eastern Swat
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Posted - 2008.06.27 15:32:00 -
[31]
Edited by: Gokil on 27/06/2008 15:38:26
Welcome back Khirzy. BRING KOS BACK!!!!
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Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2008.06.27 16:59:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Tenacha Khan
No I dont think that FW will teach players how to form or become part of a 0.0 alliance.
On another note, lol at the alliance elitist attitude here viewing all players in empire as noobs when you all were one at some point. The bast majority of people in 0.0 are clueless sheep following carebears; who follow pre-determined tactics made by the people in their alliance that actually have a clue.
/signed
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Keeves
Minmatar
Sexy Pirate Club
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Posted - 2008.06.27 19:17:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Omeega
Originally by: MirrorGod
Not-one-sided-view-rant at all.
Some more one-sided stuff
Apart from the obvious stuff that only happens in nullsec and can't happen in empire, FW will teach them most of that (to a smaller extent).
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Jonny Damordred
Stimulus
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Posted - 2008.06.27 19:22:00 -
[34]
Bah, 0.0 noobs. Back in my day, holding space was much more than dropping a POS then refueling it once a month.
*shakes his cane at the youngins *
Cheers,
Jonny D.
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Jonny Damordred
Stimulus
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Posted - 2008.06.27 19:27:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Tenacha Khan
The bast majority of people in 0.0 are clueless sheep following carebears; who follow pre-determined tactics made by the people in their alliance that actually have a clue.
This, oh so this. One of the best things to do in eve is to wardec an alliance and show them what a group of dedicated and skilled players can do to their vast herds of sheep.
Plus, you can take your alarm-clock ops and shove them.
Cheers,
Jonny D.
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kublai
Caldari
Art of War
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.06.27 21:06:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Tenacha Khan
No I dont think that FW will teach players how to form or become part of a 0.0 alliance.
On another note, lol at the alliance elitist attitude here viewing all players in empire as noobs when you all were one at some point. The bast majority of people in 0.0 are clueless sheep following carebears; who follow pre-determined tactics made by the people in their alliance that actually have a clue.
The man speaks truth, and I have an outpost in fountain named after me so you just know i'm hardcore because I ain't even dead.
PS. The Kublai prefers empire.
Methods of Torture - Latrocinium |
Farrqua
Minmatar
Turbo Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.27 21:34:00 -
[37]
Watching these FW guys is like watching 3 monkeys trying fffUUU***kK a football. Once they get the idea of not fitting WCS and start dialing in their fittings and start to understand how to work with in a gang, then they might be ready to deal with PvP in general.
As far as FW getting you ready for 0.0, there is no such thing. When you get into 0.0 for the first time no matter how much sp you have you are still a n00b. Either you are n00b jewbear or n00b ganker. You just have to get out there to understand the rules and how things are. And you have to get used to a much different attitude.
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.28 04:49:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Keeves
Originally by: Omeega
Originally by: MirrorGod
Not-one-sided-view-rant at all.
Some more one-sided stuff
Apart from the obvious stuff that only happens in nullsec and can't happen in empire, FW will teach them most of that (to a smaller extent).
I believe, if you read that again, his point was not to be specifically one sided for no good reason. But, it was to expose the other side based on what the person before him said.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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MirrorGod
Heretic Militia
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Posted - 2008.06.28 05:24:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Tenacha Khan
No I dont think that FW will teach players how to form or become part of a 0.0 alliance.
On another note, lol at the alliance elitist attitude here viewing all players in empire as noobs when you all were one at some point. The bast majority of people in 0.0 are clueless sheep following carebears; who follow pre-determined tactics made by the people in their alliance that actually have a clue.
le signed.
Recruitment: [ANTI]
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Khirzan Wolfson
MicroFunks
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Posted - 2008.06.28 07:20:00 -
[40]
ok well while FW does not have pos's or caps or bubbles etc....thats all obvious
I am mostly curious to see if people can get the pvpers organized and if people will come together to create some heirarchy simply to get more effective attacks on systems n such. Seeing that I had done alliance operational stuff for the past 2+ years I am not interested because im burned out in taht aspect i just want to pew pew.
I guess thats one of the issues with fw...everyone just wants to pew pew.
For example: the gallente militia is outgunned against caldari yet we have over 3000 more kills than the caldari (or of any militia for that matter). I dunno i definately find this real interesting but at the same time if FW was around when I was a noob i dont know if I would have gone to 0.0 as there wouldnt be a whole lot of incentive....
would some people agree (just think of the ways isk is generated in empire for militias to cover that angle)
♥ everyone who shouted me out! and Gokil....thanks for the vote of confidence lol
-Khirzan Wolfson
"I may be Caldari, but it is the Gallente Federation that I fight for....The Calamari don't deserve their place in the heavens anymore...the corruption and arrogance has gone on t |
Tenacha Khan
Corp 1 Allstars
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Posted - 2008.06.28 07:47:00 -
[41]
Originally by: kublai
Originally by: Tenacha Khan
No I dont think that FW will teach players how to form or become part of a 0.0 alliance.
On another note, lol at the alliance elitist attitude here viewing all players in empire as noobs when you all were one at some point. The bast majority of people in 0.0 are clueless sheep following carebears; who follow pre-determined tactics made by the people in their alliance that actually have a clue.
The man speaks truth, and I have an outpost in fountain named after me so you just know i'm hardcore because I ain't even dead.
PS. The Kublai prefers empire.
<3 the Kublai.....drop into the exotic channel mate
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kublai
Caldari
Art of War
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.06.28 08:19:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Tenacha Khan
Originally by: kublai
Originally by: Tenacha Khan
No I dont think that FW will teach players how to form or become part of a 0.0 alliance.
On another note, lol at the alliance elitist attitude here viewing all players in empire as noobs when you all were one at some point. The bast majority of people in 0.0 are clueless sheep following carebears; who follow pre-determined tactics made by the people in their alliance that actually have a clue.
The man speaks truth, and I have an outpost in fountain named after me so you just know i'm hardcore because I ain't even dead.
PS. The Kublai prefers empire.
<3 the Kublai.....drop into the exotic channel mate
Toss me an invite, alas all my channels have been sexually violated a few times due to format c:'s and the likes, i'm mostly online on "Jonny 101" now that Kublai's stuck in that giant drone boat :P
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Bertn Erney
The Fudge Packers Union
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Posted - 2008.06.28 20:54:00 -
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lol at all the FW noobs that think they run with the big boys now. |
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