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Arazel Chainfire USC Militia	Posted - 2008.06.26 15:17:00 - [1] Ok, so I'm currently using a thorax with a blaster fit for FW complexes and pvp. I know the standard fits usually involve plates and no armor repairers, but because this is to be able to fight the spawns in the complexes and not just fight other players, it needs to have at least some ability to repair itself. My current setup is as follows Highs 5 medium ion blaster 2's (cruiser sized) Mids 1 MWD 1 1 x-5 webber 1 warp disruptor 1 Lows 1 MAR 1 1 EANM 1 1 DCU 1 2 magstab 2's drones 5 Valkary 2's CPU is completely maxed out, and i'm going kinda cheap on anything not directly gank related to minimize the cost (and fitting). My question is - is there a different ship that could do this job better? This is specifically to do lvl 2 sized complexes/missions (t1 cruisers, destroyers, and t2 frigs allowed). I can fly gallente assault ships, and any race's t1 cruisers, though i have the majority of my skills in gallente, and am only able to use t2 hybrid turrets. -Arazel Originally by: Tsanse Kinske Mutual Incomprehension is one of the Four Horsemen of most internet arguments, I guess, along with Unfettered Hostility, Overwhelming Vagueness, and Lack of Evidence.
Akuma Tsukai	Posted - 2008.06.26 16:01:00 - [2] id vote for ishkur but thats me. thorax is fine as is vexor. Increasing low fit to lvl 2 will cost u only around 3 mil more. is that really such a difference? live longer - kill more. ---- Drones eat everything. Trust me.
Bronson Hughes The. Conspiracy	Posted - 2008.06.26 16:05:00 - [3] Originally by: Akuma Tsukai Increasing low fit to lvl 2 will cost u only around 3 mil more. is that really such a difference? live longer - kill more. And will take more CPU that she doesn't have. If you're just running the repper after fights, you can probably get away with using a SAR instead of an MAR and that should free up a little bit of fitting. Or, you can keep the MAR and fix yourself up faster. Either way your setup looks good as long as you don't run the repper too much while fighting; othereise you'll find yourself quickly out of cap and defenseless. -------------------- "I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne
Arazel Chainfire USC Militia	Posted - 2008.06.26 18:14:00 - [4] Yeah, I can't increase anything more to t2 - just don't have the CPU (and before you ask, I do have max fitting skills). Just tried out a vexor with the following fit Highs 3 200mm 2's mids 1 MWD 1 1 warp disruptor 1 1 large shield extender 2 Lows 2 OD 2 2 Nano 2's 5 valkary 2's 5 light ecm drones 5 warrior 2's ... it wasn't that effective, though it may have been a lvl 3 complex that I ended up entering. It got killed while undocking by a rupture (got caught at 5km... ). On the bright side, it was able to avoid a few gatecamps, so some good did come out of it, but I think i'm going to toss that setup for now. As for the assault ships... I'll look at trying an ishkur out (i haven't ever been really impressed with the enyo), though I doubt that it will do significantly better. Are there any other race's that I might try out to useful effect? -Arazel Originally by: Tsanse Kinske Mutual Incomprehension is one of the Four Horsemen of most internet arguments, I guess, along with Unfettered Hostility, Overwhelming Vagueness, and Lack of Evidence.
Bronson Hughes The. Conspiracy	Posted - 2008.06.26 18:26:00 - [5] One other suggestion: If you have Hull Upgrades to IV, you can replace the EANM 1 with an Adaptive Nano Plating II. Slightly better resist values, zero CPU usage. They're a real Godsend for tight fits or as a stopgap until you get EANM IIs at Hull Upgrades V. -------------------- "I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne
Arazel Chainfire USC Militia	Posted - 2008.06.26 19:31:00 - [6] Originally by: Bronson Hughes One other suggestion: If you have Hull Upgrades to IV, you can replace the EANM 1 with an Adaptive Nano Plating II. Slightly better resist values, zero CPU usage. They're a real Godsend for tight fits or as a stopgap until you get EANM IIs at Hull Upgrades V. I have hull upgrades 5 - again, the only reason why i'm not fitting eanm 2 is 6 cpu... . Also, doesn't Adaptive nano plating 2's have less resist than eanm 1? I need to go check that... -Arazel Originally by: Tsanse Kinske Mutual Incomprehension is one of the Four Horsemen of most internet arguments, I guess, along with Unfettered Hostility, Overwhelming Vagueness, and Lack of Evidence.
Bronson Hughes The. Conspiracy	Posted - 2008.06.26 19:34:00 - [7] Originally by: Arazel Chainfire I have hull upgrades 5 - again, the only reason why i'm not fitting eanm 2 is 6 cpu... . Also, doesn't Adaptive nano plating 2's have less resist than eanm 1? I need to go check that... -Arazel Nope, slightly better actually. Using an ANP II would give you slightly better resists and save you 30 CPU (or less if you used a naed EANM). They really are a very under-used module. -------------------- "I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne
Arazel Chainfire USC Militia	Posted - 2008.06.26 19:41:00 - [8] yup - just checked that. I get better tank with it (what little tank is actually there), and get enough cpu to fit a DCU 2 and a warp disruptor 2 (if i want). As I only have 8 pg left, i'm unable to fit bigger guns, armor repairer, or mwd though -Arazel Originally by: Tsanse Kinske Mutual Incomprehension is one of the Four Horsemen of most internet arguments, I guess, along with Unfettered Hostility, Overwhelming Vagueness, and Lack of Evidence.
Bronson Hughes The. Conspiracy	Posted - 2008.06.26 19:51:00 - [9] One other thing to consider if you're tight on CPU would be to fit a scrambler instead of a disruptor. The short range is less of an issue since you'll want to fight at close range anyways, you'll use less cap, and you'll free up some more CPU. This one is more a matter of personal preference though. -------------------- "I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne
Gram Hellfire Smoking Hillbillys Paxton Federation	Posted - 2008.06.26 20:25:00 - [10] use a True Sansha adaptive nano plating. They're cheap, and will help your fitting. Or used named components.
Gimpb	Posted - 2008.06.26 20:54:00 - [11] Originally by: Arazel Chainfire Yeah, I can't increase anything more to t2 - just don't have the CPU (and before you ask, I do have max fitting skills). Just tried out a vexor with the following fit Highs 3 200mm 2's mids 1 MWD 1 1 warp disruptor 1 1 large shield extender 2 Lows 2 OD 2 2 Nano 2's 5 valkary 2's 5 light ecm drones 5 warrior 2's ... it wasn't that effective, though it may have been a lvl 3 complex that I ended up entering. It got killed while undocking by a rupture (got caught at 5km... ). On the bright side, it was able to avoid a few gatecamps, so some good did come out of it, but I think i'm going to toss that setup for now. As for the assault ships... I'll look at trying an ishkur out (i haven't ever been really impressed with the enyo), though I doubt that it will do significantly better. Are there any other race's that I might try out to useful effect? -Arazel Well it sounds like you got your vexor into the exact situation it would not perform well in--a flimsy speed fit going up against a close range gank ship at short range. One thing that's popular for vexors is to throw a 1600mm plate and hardeners/DCs/EANMs on it. That'll give you tons of effective hp and you could adjust the fit to involve a repper... 1600, EANM, DC, MAR for example. You'll probably end up having to use small guns but it's not that big a damage hit.
Grace Fall Roast Beef Double Swiss Transport	Posted - 2008.06.27 08:39:00 - [12] [Thorax, New Setup 1] Damage Control II 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Small Armor Repairer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive J5 Prototype Warp Inhibitor I X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Heavy Ion Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Hammerhead II x5 Play with as skills and price determines for you. Should have enough buffer to run the missions with the amount of dps it pumps out.
ceyriot Entropians on Vacation	Posted - 2008.06.27 09:00:00 - [13] Edited by: ceyriot on 27/06/2008 09:00:47 nvm i fail at reading Faction Store - Killboard

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