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Atomos Darksun
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Posted - 2008.06.27 01:20:00 -
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http://www.pcpower.com/support/docs/S61EPS.htm
Could anyone here attempt to explain to me what exaxctly the "figures" are supposed to mean/represent?
 Originally by: Amoxin
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Atomos Darksun
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Posted - 2008.06.27 01:20:00 -
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http://www.pcpower.com/support/docs/S61EPS.htm
Could anyone here attempt to explain to me what exaxctly the "figures" are supposed to mean/represent?
Originally by: Amoxin
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Posted - 2008.06.27 01:36:00 -
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those are the thingies on your mobo where the powerplugs go.
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Posted - 2008.06.27 01:36:00 -
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Edited by: P''uck on 27/06/2008 01:40:46
those are the thingies on your mobo where the powerplugs go.
edit:
at least 1 and 2 are.
3 goes to videocard, obviously. and so on.
another edit:
for building your pc you mostly really dont know what each connector does.
it just helps you to see the profile on the connector. in the end, if you pay attention, you run nigh to zero chance of doin it wrong. you have this little plastic hook that clearly goes on one side. also the connectors have profiles to prevent you plugging them somewhere they dont belong. unless you use excessive force, that is 
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Atomos Darksun
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Posted - 2008.06.27 01:40:00 -
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Yes, but what I need to know is what plugs go where and what kind of crazy-ass key they're using to describe the plugs
Originally by: Amoxin
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Posted - 2008.06.27 01:42:00 -
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Edited by: P''uck on 27/06/2008 01:45:16
see my edit... just find according plugs on the mobo, or even better yet, compare to mobo manual. youll find it out.
even i managed to do it without breaking everything, so it cant be that hard as i said, you mostly dont even need to decipher the "crazy ass keys".
you know what really ****ed me off? my case manual. which side of the mobo should i put the rubber washers? ffs...
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Kyrall
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Posted - 2008.06.27 01:44:00 -
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They tell you what each of the individual wires in each connector from the PSU is for. What exactly do you need it for? To be honest I can't see any case where most people will need that information. Just make sure you follow steps 1-4 at the top. You can't really go far wrong as they won't fit in the wrong places, people have gone to lengths to try to ensure that is the case!
If everything is connected up okay (there may be spare cables from the PSU, this is fine as long as it's not 1 or 2!), and it isn't working properly, then get someone knowledgeable to look at it directly, not over forums, and they can advise you on what to do next.
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Atomos Darksun
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Posted - 2008.06.27 01:48:00 -
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The thing I can't figure out is what cords they want me to plug where...
IE, WTF does the chart mean?
Or should I just plug in a cord that fits in all the holes I see and turn it on and hope it works?
Originally by: Amoxin
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Posted - 2008.06.27 01:52:00 -
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Edited by: P''uck on 27/06/2008 01:55:35
if you closely examine the connectors, you probably find out that there is only one way to plug em in anyway.
iirc if you use some force you MIGHT be able to mix up a part of figure 2 with figure 3, but you would need to try real hard to do so 
edit:
figure 1 and 2 goes to mobo,
figure 3 to vidcard (IF it has a power connector)
figure 4 goes to HD iirc.
5 is CD/DVD, most probably and 6 is for the floppy drive.
amirite?
another edit (im gettng drunk and tired, at least i try)
the plug on figure 2... sometimes you combine it to a single, wider piece and find a single connector on the mobo.
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Atomos Darksun
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Posted - 2008.06.27 02:05:00 -
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Originally by: P'uck
ALL of these should have an according description on the plugs or the PSU . at least some abbreviation like ATX for the main power supply thingies and PCI-E for the thing that goes to the vidcard.
amirite?
Nope. I have the PSU sitting right next to me. No markings on it or anything...so I have NO idea which plugs they're actually referring to when they go to figure 1.
I know that the cords that are included in figure 1 go to figure 1, but I don't know which cords they're freakin talkin about because they provide NO description of the cords/plugs and there is no markings on the PSU/cords/plugs.
So my original question was: is there a code that they're using in the manual that they thought it was a bad idea to explain?
IE, WTF does (3.3v) Orange[13][1] mean and how the hell do i tell what cord they're talking about?
Originally by: Amoxin
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Posted - 2008.06.27 02:09:00 -
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well, the voltages are there for people that actually ... want to do more stuff with that psu than you do ... or something like that.
all you need to know, basically, is how many pins a connector has.
its only confusing when you look at a part of the cpu connector and the PCI-E connector, both have 6 pins, but they should have different profiles so you cant really mix em up.
you can always take a pic of your psu, preferably with the cables running out of the back...
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Atomos Darksun
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Posted - 2008.06.27 02:15:00 -
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But what do the numbers in the chart mean?
Originally by: Amoxin
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Posted - 2008.06.27 02:21:00 -
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Originally by: P'uck
the plug on figure 2... sometimes you combine it to a single, wider piece and find a single connector on the mobo.
Not quite, the figure shows that PSU has both 4-pin and 8-pin AUX connectors. The motherboard will have either a 4 or 8-pin socket, usually close to the CPU. Use whatever one the MB has, and tie the other one out of the way.
Figure 1 is the main ATX connector to the MB, it will be a 2x12 socket usually lined up by the RAM slots.
Figure 3 is the PCI-E power connector, used to give extra power to high-end video cards. A card that needs one will have a 2x3 socket near the top-back of the card. Some cards have two 2x3 sockets or one 2x3 and one 2x4, these need multiple connectors for extra power and most likely won't work without them.
Figure 4 is the SATA hard-drive power connector. Used for most modern hard drives and recent DVD drives too. Basically if the info on the drive says SATA anywhere, this is the plug.
Figure 5 is the standard Molex power connector, been around since forever. Used for older hard drives, most optical drives and occasionally a MB will have a socket for one too for extra power somewhere.
Figure 6 is usually for floppy drives, though not many computers use them anymore. Some high-end soundcards want a floppy or molex plug too for cleaner power, I've also seen some motherboards with sockets for this plug.
The good news is that ALL of these plugs are shaped to only go on the right way, as long as you don't force them in the wrong way you can't hook them up backwards. Just look at the shape of the pins, there will be bevels and angles to direct you. The SATA connector will have a small 'L' bend at one end that lines up with the socket.
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P'uck
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Posted - 2008.06.27 02:22:00 -
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Edited by: P''uck on 27/06/2008 02:25:07
Originally by: Atomos Darksun
Pics
But what do the numbers in the chart mean?
im not sure if i know what you mean... those little numbers in the boxes are just the position of a certain wire. it doesnt mean much to you, its just how they are arranged. i guess its for those tech guys to communicate faster. i.e. "i have a sparkgizmo fluctuation on pin 4" or something.
the other numbers are voltages, obviously.
i have the sneaking suspicion the things you call "charts" are actually the pictures of the connector profiles
or i managed to get drunk in the meantime and didnt notice.
Originally by: Stephen HB
Not quite, the figure shows that PSU has both 4-pin and 8-pin AUX connectors. The motherboard will have either a 4 or 8-pin socket, usually close to the CPU. Use whatever one the MB has, and tie the other one out of the way.
umm yeah, sorry bout that. now i remember where i nearly screwed up last time
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Atomos Darksun
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Posted - 2008.06.27 02:30:00 -
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Edited by: Atomos Darksun on 27/06/2008 02:30:21
****...not chart
TABLE!
In my original link to the manual there's the table between the names of the cords or whatever...
WTF do the numbers mean?
Like [13][1] are the top boxes on the table
HOWEVER:
Can I just plug in cords that fit into all the plugs and it won't fry anything?
Originally by: Amoxin
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Posted - 2008.06.27 02:34:00 -
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Edited by: P''uck on 27/06/2008 02:36:07
this
top right, figure 1 is a picture of
this
edit: wait a sec, this looks mirrored or something, but still, thats what it represents.
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Atomos Darksun
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Posted - 2008.06.27 02:36:00 -
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Originally by: Atomos Darksun
Can I just plug in cords that fit into all the plugs and it won't fry anything?
Since there is no way comprehendable by me to actually work out a system of the right plugs to plug in where via manual or other guide
Originally by: Amoxin
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Posted - 2008.06.27 02:40:00 -
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Edited by: P''uck on 27/06/2008 02:44:43
basically yes, just dont use excessive force.
the plugs mostly prevent you from doing it wrong. that, combined with comparing manuals of mobo and psu, was how i assembled my first pc.
edit; along with screwing up everythign around figure 2, as you cna tell from my wrong and misleading posts, but i still didnt fry anything.
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Atomos Darksun
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Posted - 2008.06.27 02:44:00 -
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Yeah, I've been relying a lot on my mobo manual. It's the only one that was actually written so that it can be used at all. It's also as thick as war and peace and has any language imaginable translated in it.
The PSU manual sucking was the reason that got me here in the first place.
I took a minute or two to look through my Q6600 manual and was sorely dissapointed to see that the only description they had on mounting the processor and heatsink was about 2 pages of badly detailed pictures because they were too cheap to translate text.
Damn intel and their vastly superior processors this generation, does AMD have better manuals?
Originally by: Amoxin
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Posted - 2008.06.27 02:48:00 -
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unless you change the heatsink and fan, isnt it just, pop, click, plug, go?
i wouldnt know, the guy in the store put my cpu on the mobo in like 2.5 seconds when i asked him to
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Stephen HB
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Posted - 2008.06.27 03:00:00 -
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Might I humbly suggest that if the prospect of figuring out which plugs from a PSU go where is freaking you out, that you NOT muck around with $500+ bits of hardware?
TBH, if you can't hook up a PSU, you probably shouldn't be building your own computer. Get someone else to do it while you watch, 'cause I don't want to read your "Waah I broke my CPU" thread next week.
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Originally by: Adonis 4174
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Atomos Darksun
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Posted - 2008.06.27 03:06:00 -
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Edited by: Atomos Darksun on 27/06/2008 03:07:07
Originally by: P'uck
unless you change the heatsink and fan, isnt it just, pop, click, plug, go?
i wouldnt know, the guy in the store put my cpu on the mobo in like 2.5 seconds when i asked him to
I think so...but I was just making sure
Originally by: Amoxin
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Posted - 2008.06.27 04:54:00 -
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basicly the connectors are pretty much idiot proof to a person whos able to build a computer.
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Odarin
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Posted - 2008.06.27 05:02:00 -
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They're all designed so you cant physically put them in the wrong place\way\configuration without using excessive force and breaking something.
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