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iT Scarran
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Posted - 2004.05.20 12:50:00 -
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An excellent account of events Vinky. It is shameful to see the Amarrians mare your account .. thou in all honestly expected.
I see many claims referring to Slavery and the Slaves of Ammar .. and instead of accepting this as fact .. Ammarr decide.. it is better to try make it sound that they are not slaves :) .. I find this incredibly amusing as the simple fact remians :
slave ( P ) (slv)
n.
1) One bound in servitude as the property of a person or household.
2) One who is abjectly subservient to a specified person or influence.
3) One who works extremely hard.
4) A machine or component controlled by another machine or component.
"Slave" is the Amarrian Term .. The definitions hold which ever way you cut it ... "educating" a race to "your" way is still Slavery, if the removal of freedom is what the Ammarr calls "re education". Well im afraid this is still slavery. How can you sit and tell yourself that you are doing the right thing when the reality is the definitions hold. The language is true, and correct.
Lets look at the two species :
1) The persecutor or "educator" stating that "educating" (which has already been illustrated as slavery) is in fact doing Minmatar people a service, and to achieve this you deny Minmatar people their freedom. These people we call Ammarr .. to enforce their goal they try to justify slavery. But no matter what words you use these "slaves" are not free to go .. thus Ammarr are oppressors. If not .. then allow the slaves to go free give them freedom and choice?
2) The persecuted, with Mothers Fathers Sisters and Brothers held by the Ammarrians and no freedom of choice. For a Minmatar citizen not held in the bonds of Slavery with Freedom to live a peaceful life or to serve the ammar if they wish. What choice do they have .. would you Amarr leave your mother held in the bonds of slavery ? I think not .. in fact I think you would fight .. and you would fight with all your energy and vigor to ensure that your Mother enjoyed the freedom you currently have.
No more talk of the justification of slavery .. there is none your are the persecutors .. we are the persecuted. As long as this remains there will be trouble between our two races.
iT Scarran
SMaK Corp
PROM
(ooc Ammarrians inability to Role play illustrates that they merely chose the race for the Apocs, and war mongering .. there is no true illustration of an RP element yet again. How dull you all are)
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.05.20 13:02:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 20/05/2004 13:03:55
iT, if our aims were really about persecuting another race rather than elevating them, how do you explain the fact that there are now millions of Udorians, Ni-Kunni and Ammatar who are not adopted?
It's not about cheap labour you know, it's about preparing those less fortunate than ourselves for eventual citizenship.
Accept the simple fact - the Amarrian Empire is an entity which has been put here by God to raise the peoples of Eve towards enlightenment.
(ooc: If we PIE RPers really were here to get the best ships, do you really think we'd all be flying Apocs rather than Ravens, Tempests or Megathrons?)
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Azure Skyclad
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Posted - 2004.05.20 13:15:00 -
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Did Hardin find a repair kit for Vulcanized Vanessa yet? Must be getting mighty lonely without his favourite "n0rdydoll(tm)"
Watch out for him looking at power sockets with his upper lip a'twitchin........
La Maison de tous Les Plaisirs
Star Fraction
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Armand Trimonte
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Posted - 2004.07.14 08:25:00 -
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Blah blah blah. When will Amarr learn? A slave is a slave is a slave. Whether you cll it re-education or harsh servitude. They are still denided there freedom to live there life as THEY see fit. Not you. I am a slave child recently freed by my brothers and sisters in arms. I will not stand idly by and let this practice continue. As long as I draw breath Amarr will be my enemy. Whether or not my war is legal or not, I will fight it. Keep a sharp eye out Amarr, I'm coming for you.
I have a Gallente love slave. |
Armand Trimonte
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Posted - 2004.07.14 08:25:00 -
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Blah blah blah. When will Amarr learn? A slave is a slave is a slave. Whether you cll it re-education or harsh servitude. They are still denided there freedom to live there life as THEY see fit. Not you. I am a slave child recently freed by my brothers and sisters in arms. I will not stand idly by and let this practice continue. As long as I draw breath Amarr will be my enemy. Whether or not my war is legal or not, I will fight it. Keep a sharp eye out Amarr, I'm coming for you.
I have a Gallente love slave. |
Deathwing
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Posted - 2004.07.14 10:14:00 -
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 Quote:
*sends message to Deathwing, inquiring about buying a slave.
I am pleased you are interested in my fine stock of slaves
but I am currently on vacation at an undisclosed location enjoying the fruits of my labours
But if you wish, you can contact my associate Discorporation about purchasing one of my fine slaves as he is overlooking my operations untill my return to active duty
Good Day Citizen
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |
Deathwing
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Posted - 2004.07.14 10:14:00 -
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Quote:
*sends message to Deathwing, inquiring about buying a slave.
I am pleased you are interested in my fine stock of slaves
but I am currently on vacation at an undisclosed location enjoying the fruits of my labours
But if you wish, you can contact my associate Discorporation about purchasing one of my fine slaves as he is overlooking my operations untill my return to active duty
Good Day Citizen
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |
Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.07.14 10:56:00 -
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Originally by: Armand Trimonte
Blah blah blah. When will Amarr learn? A slave is a slave is a slave. Whether you cll it re-education or harsh servitude. They are still denided there freedom to live there life as THEY see fit. Not you. I am a slave child recently freed by my brothers and sisters in arms. I will not stand idly by and let this practice continue. As long as I draw breath Amarr will be my enemy. Whether or not my war is legal or not, I will fight it. Keep a sharp eye out Amarr, I'm coming for you.
I fail to see how resurrecting a dead thread will help your cause 
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |
Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.07.14 10:56:00 -
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Originally by: Armand Trimonte
Blah blah blah. When will Amarr learn? A slave is a slave is a slave. Whether you cll it re-education or harsh servitude. They are still denided there freedom to live there life as THEY see fit. Not you. I am a slave child recently freed by my brothers and sisters in arms. I will not stand idly by and let this practice continue. As long as I draw breath Amarr will be my enemy. Whether or not my war is legal or not, I will fight it. Keep a sharp eye out Amarr, I'm coming for you.
I fail to see how resurrecting a dead thread will help your cause
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |
Armand Trimonte
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Posted - 2004.07.14 11:57:00 -
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[OOC] Just had to put my 2 cents in is all.
I have a Gallente love slave. |
Armand Trimonte
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Posted - 2004.07.14 11:57:00 -
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[OOC] Just had to put my 2 cents in is all.
I have a Gallente love slave. |
Ben Freegate
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Posted - 2004.07.14 12:54:00 -
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/me sends armand 2 isk
next time just keep it to yourself.
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Ben Freegate
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Posted - 2004.07.14 12:54:00 -
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/me sends armand 2 isk
next time just keep it to yourself.
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Tsual
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Posted - 2004.07.14 18:59:00 -
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So this topic is back again...
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Tsual - Miner from faith, frigat junky for life.
Ritual of the Qua'nadhar. |
Tsual
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Posted - 2004.07.14 18:59:00 -
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So this topic is back again...
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Tsual - Miner from faith, frigat junky for life.
Ritual of the Qua'nadhar. |
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