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Pushme Pullyou
Wingrove Weapons Systems
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Posted - 2008.06.28 12:21:00 -
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Hope this is the right forum to ask this question - wasn't sure if maybe it should go in market discussion.....
First of all, let me say this isn't a whine thread - I'm simply looking for the reason(s) behind the huge increase in Fermionic Condensates prices recently.
I was trying to figure it out myself - could it be events such as TRI's recent disbandment meaning some high-end moons are no longer being harvested, thus cutting down supply?
Or market traders buying up and re-selling high?
I can't imagine it's a spike in demand due to new tech 2 stuff, as this would probably have had an across-the-board effect on moon min demand, and the last new ships came along a little while ago now, so it would have probably happened earlier if it was due to this.
Anyone better informed than I am care to enlighten me?
Cheers!
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Pushme Pullyou
Wingrove Weapons Systems
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Posted - 2008.06.28 14:27:00 -
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 Originally by: Lady Natacha
Have you checked the prices of Dysprosium and Promethium lately?
Well yeah - but that's the answer to a question I didn't ask (or i didn't mean to anyway)
As I understand such things the moon mineral demand is driven by the t2 production industry, and the ultimate sell price is governed by supply vs demand.
The price of the item I mentioned has shot up which should mean either demand has gone up, or supply has gone down...
I'm not aware of any new t2 stuff recently that might explain a sudden surge in demand but, when I looked through recent forum posts I saw TRI had disbanded and vacated an area of space known to be fairly rich in highend moons.
If this space is now contested, or has new occupants just setting up shop, it could possibly offer me an explanation as to why the flow rate of high end moon mins feeding the fermionic condensate market may have dropped....
Or it could be something completely different - I don't know enough to figure out how to test my theory, or postulate a better one - hence this thread!
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Pushme Pullyou
Wingrove Weapons Systems
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Posted - 2008.06.28 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Arthor Dark
What is interesting to note is that (according to eve-central.com) there is about:
789k of dysprosium,
1,245k Promethium,
2,018k thulium and
2,755k neodymium
on sale. All four are the 64-rarity moon products. So where's all the dysprosium? It's not making to the market. People who mine it are using it themselves, the little that makes it to the market is driven up in price.
It is the new t2 cartel.
That's an interesting idea but it does raise a question.....
How is it possible?
I mean - dysprosium on it's own is useless, right? for people that mine it to be "using it themselves", they must be using equivalent amounts of other moon materials to make compounds or finished materials, which ought (in theory) to similarly restrict the other materials coming to market, or (if they don't have the relevant moons) to cause them to be buying up the extra mins on market.....what other use does it have?
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Pushme Pullyou
Wingrove Weapons Systems
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Posted - 2008.07.02 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
....LET ME ENLIGHTEN YOU....
Thanks Akita,
I'd naively assumed that moon mins would be required in roughly equivalent quantities in relation to their rarity - I was unaware that one material (dysprosium) was proving to be a bottleneck due to it's being disproportionately required compared to other materials of similar rarity.
The most credible explanaton I've read - I think I believe you!
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