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LoxyRider Body Count Inc. The Requiem	Posted - 2008.06.28 13:56:00 - [1] I can't find a thread about the Empyrean Age novel that is actually about thanking Tony so I thought I'd start one. I finished the book last night after slowly enjoying it over a week's worth of reading and I have to say it was simply brilliant. I really wasn't sure what to expect from it, I've never been a big reader of the short stories and chronicles on this site (I'll be heading there to read them all after this) so I had no idea what form the book would take. What it is, without spoiling the story, is an amazing glance into the world of Eve, from the eyes of both the average man and from the leaders of nations. I loved the story and the way it tied into our Eve universe and how it actually made me even feel part of it as one of these eternal capsuleers that are portrayed as almost gods. Theres a long list of thanks at the end of the novel so I'd like to just add one more to that list to Tony for writing what is an amazing part of Eve's story. I hope your already starting on the next one .
Rover Vitesse Gallente FinFleet Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.06.28 14:02:00 - [2] Got to add my thanks as well. It can't be easy writing a novel that uses the background of a highly volatile game, and I think Tony managed to get the recipe right. I was surprised by how dark and downright horrible some of the parts were (I mean horrible in a nice way). If you're expecting this book to be about sunshine and lollipops, and mining Veldspar in Rens, you'll be disappointed. If you're after a gripping, evil, horrible, gritty and dirty read, get this book ordered now. Thanks Tony, looking forward to the sequel - it needs more Rover Vitesse in it though.
Stitcher Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2008.06.28 14:13:00 - [3] Hear, hear. "Empyrean Age" is a masterpiece. - Lt. Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain.
LoxyRider Body Count Inc. The Requiem	Posted - 2008.06.28 14:22:00 - [4] Originally by: Rover Vitesse I was surprised by how dark and downright horrible some of the parts were (I mean horrible in a nice way). If you're expecting this book to be about sunshine and lollipops, and mining Veldspar in Rens, you'll be disappointed. If you're after a gripping, evil, horrible, gritty and dirty read, get this book ordered now. I was pleasantly surprised to find eye gouging within 5 minutes of reading . Follow the Eve Tv team in Iceland
Kateryne Minmatar Children Of Matar	Posted - 2008.06.28 14:26:00 - [5] I picked up a copy of it the other day, and while i haven't read very far into it yet, it does seem very promising. Bravo to all involved.
Adam C 0utbreak	Posted - 2008.06.28 14:45:00 - [6] I've got it, page 3 so far. If I read it through it will be the 1st ever novel I've read.
Zephyr Rengate State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.06.28 15:18:00 - [7] Originally by: Adam C I've got it, page 3 so far. If I read it through it will be the 1st ever novel I've read. loooooooooooooooooooooooool
Daziel Iaar Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2008.06.28 15:23:00 - [8] I was disapointed with the portrayal of the Amarr, its as if they are totally black, no shade of grey or white, they are all evil. There was two sides to the Amarrians one which was terribly evil (the chamberlain) and the supposed "gooder" side who was also just as evil. Other than the lack of interest in developing the amarrians where as the majority of the other three factions had alot of background detail put into how their culture works. It was good.
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.06.28 15:41:00 - [9] There were some bits I found insanely annoying, mostly technical stuff and poor word choice, but otherwise it was a very good read. Next time Tony, I'll proof read it for you and Eve it up a bit. Warp cores Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Stitcher Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2008.06.28 15:57:00 - [10] Originally by: Daziel Iaar I was disapointed with the portrayal of the Amarr, its as if they are totally black, no shade of grey or white, they are all evil. There was two sides to the Amarrians one which was terribly evil (the chamberlain) and the supposed "gooder" side who was also just as evil. Other than the lack of interest in developing the amarrians where as the majority of the other three factions had alot of background detail put into how their culture works. It was good. Bear in mind, we basically saw the Empire from two perspectives: that of Karsoth, who is a peerless monsters, and that of the Minmatar, who are obviously going to be prejudiced. I found some of the other Amarr characters to be noble, well-adjusted people who just weren't in a position to understand our point of view Of all the EVE cultures, the Amarr are probably the most alien to us. Here on contemporary Earth, slavery is effectively extinct, and is the focus of near-universal revulsion, whereas to the Amarr it's an unquestioned fact of life. The point is, the Amarr are noble and good in their own way, but they have very, very different foundations for their moral precepts than we do, and that makes them look monstrous in our eyes. Most of the people who roleplay them in this game, however, are unable or unwilling to quite let go of our 21st-century Earth values, and sugar-coat the race. Hell, I do the same with the Caldari, who are a far more ruthless and arrogant mob than I'd ever be prepared to play. It's natural to try and prettify our choice of character racial background. Mankind is perfectly capable of embracing various monstrosities with one hand and being perfectly noble in another way with the other. Take American slave owners, for instance. It's not that they worked their slaves hard out of any particular sense of cruelty - I'm sure the majority were perfectly intelligent and charming people in other regards - its just that the culture they were born and raised in considered slavery to be acceptable. They'd have a hard time understanding why modern culture is so dead set against the idea. There's a big difference between "alien" and "evil". Tibus Heth, Karsoth and the Broker are evil by most standards. The majority of the Amarr Dramatis Personae are just too different for us to accept the positive aspects of their personality, which do exist, even if they're sometimes hard to detect.
Faife Minmatar Kinda'Shujaa	Posted - 2008.06.28 16:39:00 - [11] Originally by: Stitcher Of all the EVE cultures, the Amarr are probably the most alien to us. Here on contemporary Earth, slavery is effectively extinct, and is the focus of near-universal revulsion, whereas to the Amarr it's an unquestioned fact of life. The point is, the Amarr are noble and good in their own way, but they have very, very different foundations for their moral precepts than we do, and that makes them look monstrous in our eyes. Most of the people who roleplay them in this game, however, are unable or unwilling to quite let go of our 21st-century Earth values, and sugar-coat the race. funny, i read amarr as a criticism of america (where some not too long ago were still defending slavery as a virtuous institution, and which is fairly damn religious). yes, yes, RL vs eve and all that, but i do have a feeling that Amarrica is a bit too close of a term to be a coincidence. and they did put "french" in the gallente description which to this day i think was a terrible immersion idea. err, i don't mean to derail with modern politics, sorry. i agree with you on the sugar coating by amarrian players. the amarri laws are basically "evil" by the standards of modern life. all the other races in the book have tendencies towards selfishness and killing, but the amarri do have it codified. i tend to see the amarrian RPers as similar to the people who RP the empire in star wars: those who play the bad guy for fun. nothing wrong with that. it's all a game, we don't really think you are your character.
ani mkII anitech	Posted - 2008.06.28 16:58:00 - [12] just finished it here, not a bad read at all, the last 2 pages kinda had me scratching my head but hey. very gritty read, loved it.
Hotice	Posted - 2008.06.28 17:10:00 - [13] Sounds interesting, is there an ebook version or .pdf version of the book out already? Should be a good reading while I'm on the train.
Daziel Iaar Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2008.06.28 17:15:00 - [14] I get i see the majority of the Amarr as pious and actully doing as the lord commands and looking after their slaves, the book however didn't show this side or even hint at it.
Stitcher Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2008.06.28 17:40:00 - [15] Edited by: Stitcher on 28/06/2008 17:42:28 Originally by: Daziel Iaar Edited by: Daziel Iaar on 28/06/2008 17:20:08 I guess i see the majority of the Amarr as pious and actully doing as the lord commands and looking after their slaves, the book however didn't show this side or even hint at it. One of the undercurrents in the book was the fact that, of all the races in the universe, only the Gallente were actually in a position of strength at the start - the Minmatar were becoming less and less patient with the Amarr and with the Midular government whilst skirting the brink of economic collapse, the Caldari economy was faltering as a direct result of internal corruption, and the empire as a whole was suffering a massive crisis of faith - the man in charge was a heretic of the highest order, the average citizenry were far from being pious, and the whole thing was riddled from top to bottom with corrupt, faithless types more interested in power brokering than in their duty before God. You'll notice that, even among the heirs, only Sarum's faith was still intact, and even she had to rely on an out-and-out atheist to get the job done. Actual faithful characters, while rare, were also the ones presented most positively. - Lt. Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain.
Rhanna Khurin Minmatar	Posted - 2008.06.28 17:40:00 - [16] Originally by: Faife i tend to see the amarrian RPers as similar to the people who RP the empire in star wars: those who play the bad guy for fun. nothing wrong with that. it's all a game, we don't really think you are your character. Being someone who RP'd an Imperial in SWG, 95% of us never tried to play an evil character, on the whole it was basically the role of dutiful citizen or honourable soldier. We fought for the Empire as it was the Galactic government. Much as say any armed forces from any nation do today.
Faife Minmatar Kinda'Shujaa	Posted - 2008.06.28 17:41:00 - [17] Originally by: Daziel Iaar Edited by: Daziel Iaar on 28/06/2008 17:20:08 I guess i see the majority of the Amarr as pious and actully doing as the lord commands and looking after their slaves, the book however didn't show this side or even hint at it. that's sorta what the diplomat claimed in the first minmatar chapter having said that, it appears that your understanding of the amarr empire doesn't match in-game reality, since the book is canon. (oh god, i've become one of those _those_ haven't i...)
Faife Minmatar Kinda'Shujaa	Posted - 2008.06.28 17:45:00 - [18] Originally by: Rhanna Khurin Being someone who RP'd an Imperial in SWG, 95% of us never tried to play an evil character, on the whole it was basically the role of dutiful citizen or honourable soldier. We fought for the Empire as it was the Galactic government. Much as say any armed forces from any nation do today. evil is a relative term. i see the above as evil, you see it as honourable. and actually, i RPed an imperial too for the short time i played. i wasnt intentionally malicious to people, i just really think that following orders in a rigid cast is something that's a Bad Thing to do which is why games are sorta fun for messing around with stuff like that. and eve is really a huge sandbox
Stitcher Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2008.06.28 17:45:00 - [19] Originally by: Faife that's sorta what the diplomat claimed in the first minmatar chapter having said that, it appears that your understanding of the amarr empire doesn't match in-game reality, since the book is canon. (oh god, i've become one of those _those_ haven't i...) It's a big universe. "Canon" can be stretched to fit. The fact is that the "ethical treatment of slaves" and "Slavery for the purpose of enlightenment" side of the Amarr may not be as ubiquitous as most Amarr RPers like to think, but neither is wholly absent. - Lt. Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain.
Barsexual	Posted - 2008.06.28 18:08:00 - [20] Originally by: Zephyr Rengate Originally by: Adam C I've got it, page 3 so far. If I read it through it will be the 1st ever novel I've read. loooooooooooooooooooooooool lololololololololoololololololol
xJillianx Gallente Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.28 18:35:00 - [21] Yes Tony Gonzales is a God Nerd With Book
Selene Bork Caldari Order of the Argent Shroud	Posted - 2008.06.28 18:40:00 - [22] Half way through book and loving every bit.

CCP t0nyG	Posted - 2008.06.28 21:29:00 - [23] Originally by: LoxyRider I can't find a thread about the Empyrean Age novel that is actually about thanking Tony so I thought I'd start one. I finished the book last night after slowly enjoying it over a week's worth of reading and I have to say it was simply brilliant. I really wasn't sure what to expect from it, I've never been a big reader of the short stories and chronicles on this site (I'll be heading there to read them all after this) so I had no idea what form the book would take. What it is, without spoiling the story, is an amazing glance into the world of Eve, from the eyes of both the average man and from the leaders of nations. I loved the story and the way it tied into our Eve universe and how it actually made me even feel part of it as one of these eternal capsuleers that are portrayed as almost gods. Theres a long list of thanks at the end of the novel so I'd like to just add one more to that list to Tony for writing what is an amazing part of Eve's story. I hope your already starting on the next one . Thank you, Loxy, for all that you've done for EVE as well, and to everyone who has taken the time to read The Empyrean Age. I can't express what a surreal experience this has been, and the immense gratitude I have for both CCP and the EVE community for their support throughout. Although we tried to reach as broad of an audience as possible with this effort, I knew this story couldn't possibly be all things for all people. EVE is just too big to be covered by one book, or even dozens of books for that matter. But in a strange sense, if the story left you wishing for more depth about a particular race or character, then we've succeeded because it means we've conveyed just how much EVE has to offer. There's so much more I'd like to say, and perhaps sometime I will in a dev blog. CCP is a very busy place, as we're always working towards revealing deeper layers of the universe within the game itself. But for EVE players in particular, I wanted to give you a glimpse of where we can go. We'll get there someday. It just takes time, effort, and a lot of imagination. But once again--and this won't be the last time you hear me say this--thank you. It means the world to me personally to know that I was able to contribute something that brought enjoyment to the people of this community. T

tacoma maru	Posted - 2008.06.28 21:31:00 - [24] Originally by: Adam C I've got it, page 3 so far. If I read it through it will be the 1st ever novel I've read. lol i peed a little laughing so hard
Kryten Novascar	Posted - 2008.06.28 21:44:00 - [25] hooookay this thread has an eclectic mix posting in it. i might have to pick up that book.
Daziel Iaar Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2008.06.28 21:51:00 - [26] Originally by: CCP t0nyG Originally by: LoxyRider I can't find a thread about the Empyrean Age novel that is actually about thanking Tony so I thought I'd start one. I finished the book last night after slowly enjoying it over a week's worth of reading and I have to say it was simply brilliant. I really wasn't sure what to expect from it, I've never been a big reader of the short stories and chronicles on this site (I'll be heading there to read them all after this) so I had no idea what form the book would take. What it is, without spoiling the story, is an amazing glance into the world of Eve, from the eyes of both the average man and from the leaders of nations. I loved the story and the way it tied into our Eve universe and how it actually made me even feel part of it as one of these eternal capsuleers that are portrayed as almost gods. Theres a long list of thanks at the end of the novel so I'd like to just add one more to that list to Tony for writing what is an amazing part of Eve's story. I hope your already starting on the next one . Thank you, Loxy, for all that you've done for EVE as well, and to everyone who has taken the time to read The Empyrean Age. I can't express what a surreal experience this has been, and the immense gratitude I have for both CCP and the EVE community for their support throughout. Although we tried to reach as broad of an audience as possible with this effort, I knew this story couldn't possibly be all things for all people. EVE is just too big to be covered by one book, or even dozens of books for that matter. But in a strange sense, if the story left you wishing for more depth about a particular race or character, then we've succeeded because it means we've conveyed just how much EVE has to offer. There's so much more I'd like to say, and perhaps sometime I will in a dev blog. CCP is a very busy place, as we're always working towards revealing deeper layers of the universe within the game itself. But for EVE players in particular, I wanted to give you a glimpse of where we can go. We'll get there someday. It just takes time, effort, and a lot of imagination. But once again--and this won't be the last time you hear me say this--thank you. It means the world to me personally to know that I was able to contribute something that brought enjoyment to the people of this community. T It was a great book, but next time spare some love for the Amarrians, the stereotype that they are all terribly evil, drug everything and try to kill everyone is a bit unfair :) Why do i get the feeling the broker was an amarrian to :p
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.06.28 22:01:00 - [27] Originally by: Stitcher Edited by: Stitcher on 28/06/2008 16:14:11 Originally by: Daziel Iaar I was disapointed with the portrayal of the Amarr, its as if they are totally black, no shade of grey or white, they are all evil. There was two sides to the Amarrians one which was terribly evil (the chamberlain) and the supposed "gooder" side who was also just as evil. Other than the lack of interest in developing the amarrians where as the majority of the other three factions had alot of background detail put into how their culture works. It was good. Bear in mind, we basically saw the Empire from two perspectives: that of Karsoth, who is a peerless monsters, and that of the Minmatar, who are obviously going to be prejudiced. I found some of the other Amarr characters to be noble, well-adjusted people who just weren't in a position to understand our point of view Of all the EVE cultures, the Amarr are probably the most alien to us. Here on contemporary Earth, slavery is effectively extinct, and is the focus of near-universal revulsion, whereas to the Amarr it's an unquestioned fact of life. The point is, the Amarr are noble and good in their own way, but they have very, very different foundations for their moral precepts than we do, and that makes them look monstrous in our eyes. Most of the people who roleplay them in this game, however, are unable or unwilling to quite let go of our 21st-century Earth values, and sugar-coat the race. Hell, I do the same with the Caldari, who are a far more ruthless and arrogant mob than I'd ever be prepared to play. It's natural to try and prettify our choice of character racial background. Mankind is perfectly capable of embracing various monstrosities with one hand and being perfectly noble in another way with the other. Take American slave owners, for instance. It's not that they worked their slaves hard out of any particular sense of cruelty - I'm sure the majority were perfectly intelligent and charming people in other regards - its just that the culture they were born and raised in considered slavery to be acceptable, and continued to do so for quite a long time even after the rest of the world had started to turn against the practice. They'd have a hard time understanding why modern culture is so dead set against the idea, just as we have a hard time understanding how anybody could find it to be acceptable. There's a big difference between "alien" and "evil". Tibus Heth, Karsoth and the Broker are evil by most standards. The majority of the Amarr Dramatis Personae are just too different for us to accept the positive aspects of their personality, which do exist, even if they're sometimes hard to detect. Isnt there a bit of offical fiction floating around the site that says the Amarr actually believe they are doing the Mimmitar slaves a service spiritually? I think its a short story or something but I recall a line in which a guard is mentally thinking about how he and a mimmitar slave may end up being equals in heaven as theres something like salvation for non amarrians needs to be earned via labor or something. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase: Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
Pteranodon	Posted - 2008.06.28 22:12:00 - [28] Originally by: Stitcher Hear, hear. "Empyrean Age" is a masterpiece. ..........no it's not a masterpiece-was not expecting lord of the rings. It is not a bad read but come on it can hardly be called a masterpiece as it's appeal will mostly be for the Eve community. An "outsider" would have no insight into what was going on hence it's broad appeal will be substantially blunted.
Sergara Darkthorn Amarr black hearts	Posted - 2008.06.28 22:42:00 - [29] Only a few chapters in so far... but I cannot remember a novel gripping me this much since I read 'Sharpes Waterloo' By Bernard Cornwall Superb stuff and I hope a film is made! Thank you Tony for this
Steve Mo'yb	Posted - 2008.06.28 23:00:00 - [30] Ive never actually read a book cover to cover since leaving school, but im working my way through empyrian age as we speak, loving it so far :D
midge Mo'yb Antares Shipyards	Posted - 2008.06.28 23:00:00 - [31] Originally by: Steve Mo'yb Ive never actually read a book cover to cover since leaving school, but im working my way through empyrian age as we speak, loving it so far :D stupid forum stupid alt
Leon Vetinarri The Space Bastards	Posted - 2008.06.28 23:30:00 - [32] A Mate picked it up today in waterstones (Stupid store only had 1 copy in stock so ill have to wait a few more days), we were both pouring over it flipping through the chapters getting stupidly excited seeing the faction symblols/systems in print.
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.28 23:35:00 - [33] I'll make a thank you thread in 15 months when I can finally get the book in the US.
R3dSh1ft Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.06.29 00:54:00 - [34] Bought it when I was passing by Waterstones today, they didn't have the hardback unfortunately. I've read the first chapter so far, but the only reason I even thought about getting it was because of how wonderful I found the novellas. It really is something special to see it on the shelf, here's wishing you every success with the sales; its a brave thing to do not just for yourself but everyone else involved as well, so good luck. Here's hoping there will be plenty more of your works to enjoy in the years to come. DKOD - an awesome synchronised killing machine
Stitcher Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2008.06.29 01:42:00 - [35] Originally by: Pteranodon Originally by: Stitcher Hear, hear. "Empyrean Age" is a masterpiece. ..........no it's not a masterpiece-was not expecting lord of the rings. It is not a bad read but come on it can hardly be called a masterpiece as it's appeal will mostly be for the Eve community. An "outsider" would have no insight into what was going on hence it's broad appeal will be substantially blunted. Considering that my parents are reading it right now and making just as many positive noises as I was, and they don't know EVE at all... I'd say your wrong there. Hell, I reckon the book's a pretty accessible sci-fi novel regardless - Lt. Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain.
Solra Wolfe Smoke Eaters Corp.	Posted - 2008.06.30 03:01:00 - [36] Why can't this book be sold in the EVE Online store?
XenoPagan	Posted - 2008.07.01 12:06:00 - [37] got it yesterday and had a sleepless night. great reading so far, thanks! and we need more of those books :) maybe put all the short stories and background into one book and publish it? I've read them all but I'd buy it :)
Megan Maynard Minmatar Out of Order Vanguard.	Posted - 2008.07.01 14:56:00 - [38] Originally by: CCP t0nyG Originally by: LoxyRider I can't find a thread about the Empyrean Age novel that is actually about thanking Tony so I thought I'd start one. I finished the book last night after slowly enjoying it over a week's worth of reading and I have to say it was simply brilliant. I really wasn't sure what to expect from it, I've never been a big reader of the short stories and chronicles on this site (I'll be heading there to read them all after this) so I had no idea what form the book would take. What it is, without spoiling the story, is an amazing glance into the world of Eve, from the eyes of both the average man and from the leaders of nations. I loved the story and the way it tied into our Eve universe and how it actually made me even feel part of it as one of these eternal capsuleers that are portrayed as almost gods. Theres a long list of thanks at the end of the novel so I'd like to just add one more to that list to Tony for writing what is an amazing part of Eve's story. I hope your already starting on the next one . Thank you, Loxy, for all that you've done for EVE as well, and to everyone who has taken the time to read The Empyrean Age. I can't express what a surreal experience this has been, and the immense gratitude I have for both CCP and the EVE community for their support throughout. Although we tried to reach as broad of an audience as possible with this effort, I knew this story couldn't possibly be all things for all people. EVE is just too big to be covered by one book, or even dozens of books for that matter. But in a strange sense, if the story left you wishing for more depth about a particular race or character, then we've succeeded because it means we've conveyed just how much EVE has to offer. There's so much more I'd like to say, and perhaps sometime I will in a dev blog. CCP is a very busy place, as we're always working towards revealing deeper layers of the universe within the game itself. But for EVE players in particular, I wanted to give you a glimpse of where we can go. We'll get there someday. It just takes time, effort, and a lot of imagination. But once again--and this won't be the last time you hear me say this--thank you. It means the world to me personally to know that I was able to contribute something that brought enjoyment to the people of this community. T Write Chronicals, save your time, still have fun. Plus they would rock. You play the game at all? (Like the actual EVE game lol.)

CCP Morpheus Minmatar C C P	Posted - 2008.07.01 14:58:00 - [39] Tony is the man.

Thurisaz Prizma Amarr Khanid Provincial Vanguard	Posted - 2008.07.01 15:17:00 - [40] Originally by: CCP Morpheus Tony is the man. What he said. One awesome novel so far - page 350 and going strong. I haven't enjoyed reading this much in years... Oh, and thanks Tony for making me fell asleep today at work.
knifee Caldari Euphoria Heavy Industries	Posted - 2008.07.01 15:22:00 - [41] I'll be honest i had no intention of buying the book, but was given a copy as a belated birthday present. It is a much better then expected and I really enjoyed it. www.eve-dev.net - making a good thing better
Daziel Iaar Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2008.07.01 15:32:00 - [42] if you go to bbc.co.uk and check out the Dr Who section you may be able to see the latest Dr Who episode, i know i can watch it but don't know about other countries. "His Will Be Done"
Elise Masutra Tleilex Manufacturing	Posted - 2008.07.01 16:01:00 - [43] Edited by: Elise Masutra on 01/07/2008 16:02:24 Although I haven't read it yet (will be delivered tomorrow) I'm pretty sure it is going to be a an excellent book. Tony's short stories are awesome and I always wanted more. I probably give it to a mate till the term finishes, otherwise my university schedule is going down the drain and that would be not too good during the stress of the end-phase
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2008.07.01 16:06:00 - [44] Originally by: Faife Originally by: Rhanna Khurin Being someone who RP'd an Imperial in SWG, 95% of us never tried to play an evil character, on the whole it was basically the role of dutiful citizen or honourable soldier. We fought for the Empire as it was the Galactic government. Much as say any armed forces from any nation do today. evil is a relative term. i see the above as evil, you see it as honourable. and actually, i RPed an imperial too for the short time i played. i wasnt intentionally malicious to people, i just really think that following orders in a rigid cast is something that's a Bad Thing to do which is why games are sorta fun for messing around with stuff like that. and eve is really a huge sandbox The thing about evil people is that they seldom consider themselves to be evil. The truly evil people are generally considered to be good guys by a lot of people. Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Idi Amin and that Austrian chap with the funny moustache were all complex characters that were a long from a pantomime villain. Furthermore, they all had lots of support in their own countries, and their rank and file followers are seldom described as evil. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Digital Solaris	Posted - 2008.07.01 16:08:00 - [45] Originally by: CCP t0nyG It means the world to me personally to know that I was able to contribute something that brought enjoyment to the people of this community. I think it goes without saying.. So, um, where is Empyrean Age audio book that is going to narrated by you?
Kyra Felann Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies	Posted - 2008.07.01 16:09:00 - [46] Gee, I sure wish I could get it here in the lil' ol' USA.
Streetrip FinFleet Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.07.01 20:44:00 - [47] This was the biggest thread I could find on this but I have to say, I bought this over play.com (hardback yay!) and have just started reading it yesterday and every 5 chapters I put it down for awhile to find a thread around on the forums commending this and now on chapter 20 I just felt compelled to put the energy to eve-search it. I can comfortably say this novel is one of the best if not the best read I've had in a long while. Even better than a lot of calvin and hobbes comics I've indulged in :D I've still got about 3/4 of it still to go! I would like to say thank you very much to Tony G and CCP because this really is such a unique book. Having it as part of an MMOG you can actually be a part of the imaginative universe and is just a stones throw from actually being IN it. Also that unlike a lot of novels it's quite fresh from all the other sort of romance/thriller/drama/crap novels out there right now. As of 20 chapters in it portrays the cold war of nations teetering on peace and war, politics, passion, violence, action and all the other awesome things that makes a good read for those looking for suspense and gratifying destruction. Highly recommend to anyone with a love for EVE. The hardback copy is also good for beating people over the head with those that dont too. I am hoping very much that more novels like this are to come because my word this one is awesome!
Caiman Graystock Quantum of Solace	Posted - 2008.07.01 20:54:00 - [48] I walked into Waterstones in Manchester today and Empyrean age is taking pride of place right at the top of the escalators by the Sci Fi/Fantasy section, bought a couple of copies (one for me, one for a friend!). Can't wait to get reading, the book is much bigger than I was expecting!
DarkZombie Imminent Darkness Fluff Bites	Posted - 2008.07.01 20:54:00 - [49] Just adding my thanks, not a book reader but once i picked this up i couldn't actually leave it alone till it was finished and what a ride it was truly amazing from the bottom of my heart Thanks Tony
Robben	Posted - 2008.07.01 20:54:00 - [50] want to add my thanks also.
Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.07.01 21:36:00 - [51] I'm about a third of the way through this now, and GOD DAMN! Tony, you're an awesome writer. \o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF THE YEAR! \o/ >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<

CCP Hellmar	Posted - 2008.07.01 23:01:00 - [52] Edited by: CCP Hellmar on 01/07/2008 23:01:39 It's wonderful to read all the positive feedback in this thread. This kind of feedback inspires us to reach even higher. Congratulations Tony!

Ka'el Devwik Vivicide	Posted - 2008.07.01 23:42:00 - [53] Originally by: xJillianx Yes Tony Gonzales is a God Nerd With Book Dang, nice rig! Originally by: Siddy I achived 1000dps+ by screaming "Boost amarr" for 2 months.
torn sage	Posted - 2008.07.02 00:01:00 - [54] Much of the fun I gain from EVE is how wonderful the experience can be if you have a little imagination. I love the short stories and the novella...I'll go read and upon returning have a feeling of "belonging"...almost a 2nd actual life in the awesome and complex galaxy. Many times I'll make even a boring mining run more fun with jut a little extra imagination thown in creating my own little novellas as I play. It's a huge part of the allure of EVE.
Trespasser Caldari Sinister Defiance Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2008.07.02 02:50:00 - [55] Originally by: An Anarchyyt I'll make a thank you thread in 15 months when I can finally get the book in the US. this is sad and very true, the US players like my self really want to read this book but we cant get it here. Please CCP slap that book company in the face and get it in the US so we can in enjoy it !
Wen Jaibao Soul Ripper Consortium	Posted - 2008.07.02 05:48:00 - [56] Originally by: Trespasser Originally by: An Anarchyyt I'll make a thank you thread in 15 months when I can finally get the book in the US. this is sad and very true, the US players like my self really want to read this book but we cant get it here. Please CCP slap that book company in the face and get it in the US so we can in enjoy it ! I live in Florida and I have it. Just order it off http://www.amazon.co.uk/ and they will air mail it to you if you live in the US. Cost about 25 bucks, totally worth it. I have to say, it was an excellent read.
Dr Khymes	Posted - 2008.07.02 15:05:00 - [57] amazon.co.uk is the place to go for North Americans. I'm not quite sure if it will work for us, but I believe we can get free shipping if its over a certain amount. I was a bit under, and couldnt think of any other books to order at the time. Even with the shipping costs its not too bad a price for a hardcover. I think for myself the bill came out to around $40CDN with the shipping
Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.07.02 17:45:00 - [58] Originally by: CCP Hellmar Edited by: CCP Hellmar on 01/07/2008 23:01:39 It's wonderful to read all the positive feedback in this thread. This kind of feedback inspires us to reach even higher. Congratulations Tony! AND LO, THE FIREY HAIRED OVERLORD HATH SPOKEN!!111!1 \o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF THE YEAR! \o/ >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<
Impericus	Posted - 2008.07.02 21:52:00 - [59] I tried to order the book through Bokus.com but I got a mail from the site afterwards telling that the book is sold out at the publisher.... I will try the hardcover....
Eran Laude Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.07.02 22:36:00 - [60] Edited by: Eran Laude on 02/07/2008 22:35:50 Luv to Tony <3 <3 <3 Seriously great read - I wasn't quite sure to expect but it had me absolutely hooked from start to finish. Moar novelz plez!1!?
commander tycho Minmatar Cruoris Seraphim	Posted - 2008.07.02 23:47:00 - [61] I finished it tonight and really enjoyed it. Thanks Tony. I dont read too often and wasnt planning on buying the book. But i saw it in Forbidden Planet and just decided to buy it. Is there a discussion thread somewhere on the story? I would be interested to see people's theories on some aspects.
Nef Erator hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.07.03 19:04:00 - [62] I finished it last night (actually probably around the same time as the previous poster!) and enjoyed it immensely! However, a the risk of spoilers, there are unanswered questions and I feel like I missed something with the ending... I hope for some sort of continuation of the story in this form. It was particularly great as I've never actually read a story that felt quite this personal before... I've enjoyed this universe for almost 2 years and followed current events in the game fiction (though I'm not involved in the RP side of it, I find the story fascinating) and its great to see some background to these events, and to think back to the news bulletins that refer to some of the events in the novel. Not only that, but I also read quite a lot of science fiction and this would be the sort of thing I'd be likely to read anyway, and I have to say that for a first novel it holds up very well with other contemporary sci-fi writers without feeling like it was immitating them at all. Thanks for a great read!
Jowen Datloran Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.07.03 19:47:00 - [63] Loved the story. Except the limited swearing. As a dane who has hundreds ways of heavy swearing and insults in my mother language it is rather disappointing to see a swearing in English limited to the f-word only. Good swearing ads a lot to character, you could even have invented some insulting phrases, that would have been good. ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute
Mahogany Finish State War Academy	Posted - 2008.07.03 20:17:00 - [64] Just finished it. Great book. I'm in Texas, by the way, and got it through Amazon.co.uk. I got it by air mail within 5 business days of ordering, so it's definitely possible to get your hands on this book in the U.S. My only criticism of it is the rampant typos and misspellings. Likely not the author's fault, but an editor definitely should have caught most of them. There was one proper noun that was consistently butchered: it's spelled "Ragnarok," dammit! Also, I'm sure I missed something with the very end. I'll have to start a spoilers thread somewhere else to ask my questions about the EVE gate and the Jovians. I really need to get around to reading Theodicy.
Jart	Posted - 2008.07.09 11:30:00 - [65] I am a fairly slow reader and although I got the book early, I am only 1/3 through it. However, I have to say it is far, far better then I expected. To be frank I only bought the book to support CCP diverging into new areas and expected it to be of the quality of a normal computer game tie-in film/book (i.e. pretty bad). So far it has been a fantastic read and has been one of the best books I have had in a long time. I also do not think it is due to the Eve background either, as I have never really followed it. My greatest hope is that the book is sucessful enough to spawn a sequel. So well done Tony and all those that helped.
Meiyang Lee Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy	Posted - 2008.07.09 12:01:00 - [66] Ordered it earlier this week, and according to my book store should have it in 2 weeks or so. Can't wait to get started in it, so many positive comments.
Roc Wieler Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2008.07.09 12:27:00 - [67] I also would like to thank Tony for this novel. Some comments: 1. There were typos and grammar issues in the last half of the book. Be thorough. Little things like that can turn people off of books. 2. It was a THICK and meaty read. Usually I can read a 400 page scifi novel in two nights. This one took me a lot of concentrated hours, so kudos to you on that! 3. There are so many questions I am left with after finishing, and I hope CCP slowly answers them over time. 4. When I finished, I read the back insert and couldn't believe this was your first novel Tony! What an accomplishment! "Never start a fight you can win." - Roc Wieler
djenghis jan Amarr 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.07.09 13:55:00 - [68] Yes i like the book as well! Nice work, The last half of the book i spend wondering if there were enough pages to finish all the plot lines with any degree of detail. Its nice to finally see the long awaited Amarr weapon upgrade. When do we get this ingame? DJ
Lieutenant Isis Gristle Industries	Posted - 2008.07.09 15:24:00 - [69] Just finished it this weekend. Loved it thanks so much for writing it Tony! The only thing I was really confused about was that I've always thought of the Gallente to be "over-indulged" much they way the upper-class of Caldari were. This was hinted at, but not really shown and seems like a reason why the Gallente were forced to war when not ready.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2008.07.09 15:39:00 - [70] Finished the book and really liked it. Gave great insight into the mentality of the different empires and what's going on in the political landscape. One thing that was a bit confusing was that the people were only rarely described by their bloodline, which made it difficult to get a good image of them. At first I though Heth was a Civire and Yun a Vherokior. Some of the other main characters were never described in respect to their bloodline. But apart from this missing piece of information the book gave enough food for the inner eye. I especially liked the image of an Interceptor getting run over by a Dreadnaught. -------- Ideas for: Mining
Terra Sanctum Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2008.07.09 15:42:00 - [71] Absolutly loved it, great read, we need more :)
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2008.07.09 16:24:00 - [72] Finished it last night. I enjoyed it a lot. Was every much rooted in the Eve Online we know and love and did a great job of portraying the milieu of New Eden and the tensions and potentials of the baseline / capsuleer castes in the setting. I found it reminiscent of the Michael Stackpole Battletech novels in some ways (focus on the leaders of nations and cold war tensions) and thats no bad thing. Hope that TonyG gets a franchise here and we get to see the continuing story in six month slices Also convinces me that Eve Online does have room for other sanctioned works of fiction in much the same way that Battletech did back in the day - lets face it if giant stomping mechs of death can spawn dozens of novels I'm pretty sure Eve's universe can do at least as well. Well done Tony, very glad your ambitions were realized so well! Star Fraction \| Dare to Dream!
Leon Vetinarri The Space Bastards	Posted - 2008.07.09 17:05:00 - [73] About 2/3 of the way through it atm & really enjoying it The only thing that niggles me is some of the explanations of Eve ingame mechanics ingame such as the description of Perception/Memory ect. Implants, which feels a little tacked on.... id rather the tech be abit more glossed over tbh like in the Culture series.
Per Bastet Amarr B.O.O.M Socius Tutaminis Velox	Posted - 2008.07.09 17:52:00 - [74] All I can say is get the Damn Book into Canada ASAP. I Must Read it. It's getting to be a pain to avoid hitting Spoilers about it and I don't want it Ruined.
Arcon Telf Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.07.09 19:37:00 - [75] Well this settles it, I think. I'm not waiting for it to come to the US. I'll just order it from Amazon UK...weak dollar be damned!
Hurs Sokira Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2008.07.10 00:16:00 - [76] Originally by: CCP t0nyG It just takes time, effort, and a lot of imagination. So how about using all those things next time? Sorry to break up the love-fest but not everyone liked the book (and FW storyline) that much. Here are some choice quotes from some people that may have actually finished a novel or two in their lifetime. Quote: Bad. Like 47 year old man living in his mother's basement writing fan fiction bad. Quote: Severe letdown Quote: The current backstory feels like some awful bastardized agglomeration of really crappy kiddie cartoons and a low budget traveling carnival. Quote: I think my main issue is that Tony is just a bad writer. It's not so much that he mangled the coda, or whatever. It's just that he's... bad. He has zero literary class and an uncanny ability to not only mandate that everyone talk in soundbites, but that they not even be good soundbites. It's like a parody of a Hollywood script, which would be funny if it was intentional. I am quoting this not to insult TonyG or just be a contrarian. There are a lot of people who are very disappointed with the storyline in general and the book in particular. I think it is important for the health of the game for Devs to hear all the voices from the playerbase, or, ideally, have a forum where parties interested in RP/storyline can have a meaningful, in-depth discussion on storyline issues with Devs, just as they do so on balancing and other non-RP-related issues. Unfortunately, Devs responsible for the storyline have failed to communicate in proper manner with the player base, only appearing to make couple of cryptic statements, or to take a bow and take a round of applause when they feel like it. One would hope they would be more interested in the overall quality of their game and not in stroking their own egos.
Stitcher Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2008.07.10 09:53:00 - [77] Okay, well, time for my rebuttal to the above post. Quote: Here are some choice quotes from some people that may have actually finished a novel or two in their lifetime. I consider myself to be extremely well-read. I have no idea exactly how many different books I have read in my time, but I would hazard that if it's not a four-figure number, it's a very high three-figure one. I have read outstanding novels ("Hyperion" by Dan Simmons) some terrible ones (A complete series of "Resident Evil" novelizations) some confusing ones (the Illuminatus! trilogy, also on my desk presently), some acclaimed ones that I didn't really enjoy all that much ("Neuromancer" by William Gibson) and some that I finished but can't actually remember anything about ("Winterbirth", by Brian Ruckley). I'm not limited to sci-fi/fantasy, either - I actually finished re-reading "Pride & Prejudice" a few days ago, and am currently about half-way through "Tomorrow when the War Began" by John Marsden. Point is, I've finished a novel or two in my time, and you know what? I still think Empyrean Age is a damn good book. There were a few editing oversights (I counted at least two instances where "My lord" was accidentally printed as "Mr Lord" for example), but for the most part I found it to be well worth reading, and I'm currently itching to get my copy back from the people I lent it to so that I can read it for a third time. Now, it could be that I'm just being a "fanboi", but I like to think I'm more level-headed than that. To be sure, there were flaws, but then again there is no such thing as a book without flaws. What I read in Empyrean Age was a competently-written book that was entertaining all the way through, with occasional passages of inspired and powerful writing. I'm not going to call it the best book I've ever read, but it's a long, LONG way from being anywhere near as bad as the people you quoted made it out to be. Let's face it, the EVE community contains within its ranks some highly unpleasant, curmudgeonly ****ers, and in my opinion every last one of those quoted comments is entirely undeserved. It won't go down in history as the book that descended to Earth upon a pillar of light and led us all to the promised land, but in my opinion it's still a damn fine read, and I'll definitely be buying any more books that TonyG feels like writing. My only request is that Tony should find himself a slightly more diligent editor. - Lt. Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain.
Seishomaru	Posted - 2008.07.10 12:11:00 - [78] Originally by: Jade Constantine Finished it last night. I enjoyed it a lot. Was every much rooted in the Eve Online we know and love and did a great job of portraying the milieu of New Eden and the tensions and potentials of the baseline / capsuleer castes in the setting. I found it reminiscent of the Michael Stackpole Battletech novels in some ways (focus on the leaders of nations and cold war tensions) and thats no bad thing. Hope that TonyG gets a franchise here and we get to see the continuing story in six month slices Also convinces me that Eve Online does have room for other sanctioned works of fiction in much the same way that Battletech did back in the day - lets face it if giant stomping mechs of death can spawn dozens of novels I'm pretty sure Eve's universe can do at least as well. Well done Tony, very glad your ambitions were realized so well! True, very close to the way stackpole runs its battletech novels, even nearly same way to " briefly interrupt the history" to explain or reaffirm some important fate of the way a given society behaves or technological stuff works. The main difference is stackpole uses far less characters in central roles, with most characters only getting some focus for a brief part on the books. Would really love more eve books.
Tyr Vaantau Amarr Synthetic Frontiers	Posted - 2008.07.10 14:16:00 - [79] Originally by: Hurs Sokira Originally by: CCP t0nyG It just takes time, effort, and a lot of imagination. So how about using all those things next time? How did I know you'd be from the Caldari Independant Navy Reserve? That entire corp seems to have it in for EVE's backstory, like they seem to have their own idea of how it should be and damn anyone elses view, including CCP's! But regardless of that, it is interesting to note that your views, and views of the people you quoted (also CINR members?) are in a definite minority. I also consider myself to be well-read, and I also happen to have read some official masterpieces in my time, yet I STILL consider TonyG's novel to be among one of my favourite reads ever. Now, normally I don't act like this, but since you decided to be so rude about condemning the novel instead of using real criticism, I feel you deserve it. Sure, there is some real, fair, balanced critisicms of the novel to be made - take for example the editing which is one of the more obvious ones, and also my personal feelings regarding the novels readibility towards non-EVE playing readers. It's a testament to the Novels strength however, that none of them even really dented my experience of it. Quote: I am quoting this not to insult TonyG or just be a contrarian. You're lying. Quote: I think it is important for the health of the game for Devs to hear all the voices from the playerbase, yeah, the ones that are actually meaningful. AKA, not any of yours. Quote: One would hope they would be more interested in the overall quality of their game and not in stroking their own egos. "oh, I'm not meaning to insult tonyg!" and yet THERE YOU ARE, doing it. C'mon, don't pretend that your post is anything more than just flinging useless **** at CCP. ------
Togakure Slacker Industries	Posted - 2008.07.10 15:33:00 - [80] I was ôstuckö reading a nonfictional autobiography on my week long trip to visit family last week because Eve: The Empryean Age arrived late from amazon.co.uk. After reading the first sixth of the book, I really wished I had gotten it before my trip. The gripping pace of the story would have made my delayed flights more tolerable, for the book was easy to restart during the many interruptions of a flight. I felt the book did a great job introducing readers, new to Eve, to the depth and intrigue of the universe. Those who donÆt play Eve will, however, find the imagery hard to follow. There simply wasnÆt enough description to imagine what a Bhaalgorn might look like or the differences among the races in appearance. Perhaps that is by design of Tony, to entice theses readers to dig a little deeper. As others have pointed out, the editing was lacking. Often I found myself wondering why a period left out of ôMrö, for example, ôMr Shutsuö. You had them in Ruthless. There were other specific examples but I think the point has been made. Despite that, I have found the book, so far, immensely enjoyable. Ever since Ruthless, I have enjoyed TonyÆs writing style, especially the italics. I hate guessing the tone of a dialog! IÆll be back to write some more thoughts when I finish the book.
Kari Kayira Spartan Fleet Systems	Posted - 2008.07.10 15:42:00 - [81] I imported my from Amazon.co.uk. My only complaints are that you didn't secure a distributer in the US and that your editor wasn't a little better. I've noticed plenty of errors in all sorts of books before though, some far worse than anything in Empyrean Age. I did find the use of quotations weird... I'm used to having double quotations denoting dialog, not single ones. I haven't read too far in yet, but I'm really enjoying it. I love the EVE setting and I'd like to thank all of CCP in addition to their authors for putting it in a place of importance, far more than certain other MMOs. I may lend the book to the 'rents when I'm done, I'm curious to see if the novel is accessible enough to someone not familiar with the game itself.
Amantus Gallente Murientor Tribe	Posted - 2008.07.10 15:57:00 - [82] I got it delivered on the day it came out and am still only half way through it because of lack of time. However, what I've read so far I've loved. ------------
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Infinity Enterprises	Posted - 2008.07.10 16:03:00 - [83] Originally by: Kari K**a I imported my from Amazon.co.uk. My only complaints are that you didn't secure a distributer in the US and that your editor wasn't a little better. I've noticed plenty of errors in all sorts of books before though, some far worse than anything in Empyrean Age. I did find the use of quotations weird... I'm used to having double quotations denoting dialog, not single ones. I haven't read too far in yet, but I'm really enjoying it. I love the EVE setting and I'd like to thank all of CCP in addition to their authors for putting it in a place of importance, far more than certain other MMOs. I may lend the book to the 'rents when I'm done, I'm curious to see if the novel is accessible enough to someone not familiar with the game itself. US is not the center of the world. Having the book available in ANY amazon is good enough since you can buy it the same way the rest of the world buy books from amazon. It makes absolutely no meaningful diference bar a few extra days of wait if it was shiped from Uk or anywhere else. delaying the release jut to provide it direcltyin US woudl be dumb. Its really a no brainer. ------------------------------------------------- If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2008.07.10 16:37:00 - [84] Edited by: Jade Constantine on 10/07/2008 16:39:39 Originally by: Stitcher Okay, well, time for my rebuttal to the above post. Quote: Here are some choice quotes from some people that may have actually finished a novel or two in their lifetime. I consider myself to be extremely well-read. I have no idea exactly how many different books I have read in my time, but I would hazard that if it's not a four-figure number, it's a very high three-figure one. I have read outstanding novels ("Hyperion" by Dan Simmons) some terrible ones (A complete series of "Resident Evil" novelizations) some confusing ones (the Illuminatus! trilogy, also on my desk presently), some acclaimed ones that I didn't really enjoy all that much ("Neuromancer" by William Gibson) and some that I finished but can't actually remember anything about ("Winterbirth", by Brian Ruckley). I'm not limited to sci-fi/fantasy, either - I actually finished re-reading "Pride & Prejudice" a few days ago, and am currently about half-way through "Tomorrow when the War Began" by John Marsden. Point is, I've finished a novel or two in my time, and you know what? I still think Empyrean Age is a damn good book. There were a few editing oversights (I counted at least two instances where "My lord" was accidentally printed as "Mr Lord" for example), but for the most part I found it to be well worth reading, and I'm currently itching to get my copy back from the people I lent it to so that I can read it for a third time. Now, it could be that I'm just being a "fanboi", but I like to think I'm more level-headed than that. To be sure, there were flaws, but then again there is no such thing as a book without flaws. What I read in Empyrean Age was a competently-written book that was entertaining all the way through, with occasional passages of inspired and powerful writing. I'm not going to call it the best book I've ever read, but it's a long, LONG way from being anywhere near as bad as the people you quoted made it out to be. Let's face it, the EVE community contains within its ranks some highly unpleasant, curmudgeonly ****ers, and in my opinion every last one of those quoted comments is entirely undeserved. It won't go down in history as the book that descended to Earth upon a pillar of light and led us all to the promised land, but in my opinion it's still a damn fine read, and I'll definitely be buying any more books that TonyG feels like writing. My only request is that Tony should find himself a slightly more diligent editor. This really. I mean lets be sensible - its Tony's first book, its ridiculous to compare it to the masterworks of Dan Simmons or Iain M Banks or Frank Herbert or something. But it IS a very good example of how to write franchised fiction bringing a game-world alive and does represent something pretty positive for the future of CCP if they can publish more books and encourage other authors besides Tony to produce for the Eve setting. As a science fiction setting Eve comes across pretty well on the page and though yep, there are elements that would be difficult for non-eve players to understand and pick up I think on balance its definitely the sort of thing that can interest people excited by science fiction and could well encourage them to give Eve online a try. I've also read some terrible books in my time Back at university I read just about every Battletech book ever written and a lot of trashy science fiction and fantasy and can certainly say that Tony's book is far better than the average first novel of people writing for IP settings. It tells a good story, it keeps you reading, sure the editing is subpar but importantly it does enrich the universe of eve online and it helped remind me why i love the background of this game so much. Star Fraction \| Dare to Dream!
Dr Slaughter Minmatar Rabies Inc.	Posted - 2008.07.10 18:14:00 - [85] more... dam it... more :) Rabies is unexpected ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ dealing with the UNDERPANTS of eve since 2004
Halkin Locus Solus	Posted - 2008.07.13 17:53:00 - [86] I'm about 1/3 the way through and enjoying it, however not one of the characters has said "z0mg you noob rofl!!11" or similar Originally by: Elise Randolph Everybody wins when trolls get trolled.
Jowen Datloran Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.07.13 18:12:00 - [87] Edited by: Jowen Datloran on 13/07/2008 18:11:58 Originally by: Tyr Vaantau Originally by: Hurs Sokira Originally by: CCP t0nyG It just takes time, effort, and a lot of imagination. So how about using all those things next time? How did I know you'd be from the Caldari Independant Navy Reserve? No, it is just Hurs. If you have ever read his posts on eve-chatsubo you would know he is a self hater and have spread his rage to being against just about anything related to the recent Empyrean Age story development. Nothing can please him, ever. ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute
Adaris Gallente	Posted - 2008.07.14 02:55:00 - [88] Quote: I finished the book last night after slowly enjoying it over a week's worth of reading and I have to say it was simply brilliant. - LoxyRider My expereince was much the same, except it involved alot of Rasberry Ripple ice-cream and late night/early mornings. Simply magnificant stuff. ******* I speak on behalf of every corporation.
Telemicus Thrace Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.07.14 11:47:00 - [89] I finished the book last week. I really enjoyed it. I'll be honest, it is more towards the pulp sci-fi end of the spectrum but I love a bit of pulp now and then. It took about a week to arrive in Australia from Amazon.co.uk, I had to pay as much in shipping as I did for the book but it was worth it. Thanks Tony. I had just finished Matter by Iain M Banks and it was a joy to get into something more straight forward and with names I can pronounce . Your reference to Minmatar combat Talons freaked me out. We have been using the term Talon interchangably with Squad for a while in U'K (i.e. Skirmish Talon, Support Talon). I assume we just enjoy the same source material (Farscape in my case - great Aussie Sci-Fi). Anyway, I have run out of books for this week. Write more, NOW!!! and try to get it on Amazon US Really enjoyed it, thanks man. Join Kinda'Shujaa
Dex Nederland Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems	Posted - 2008.07.14 13:01:00 - [90] 1 - I have yet to receive the book. 2 - just because you enjoy a book (or even series) does not make it an excellent book (or series). Hurs's concerns are valid, despite his general negative sentiment. There are those who tried to support the storyline presented in the run up to EA, but are continuing to struggle with the rapid change in background information. Their entire basis for RP has been thrown out the window. I think a better storyline could have been prepared for EA. Perhaps it is time that CCP updated their Backstory information to be more in line with the novel/recent storyline events. A brand new player, interested in RP, shouldn't have to also buy the book to get a good understanding of how the world is now. Founder Heiian Society
Ethidium Bromide ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.14 13:33:00 - [91] only finished last night, enjoyed it very much! thanks for the novel tony, hope there will be another one, two, three.... oh and thank for a psychopathic mutant zombi wannabe empress Originally by: George Petsch Nochricht: Dei schwarer StroinlSser trifftn Karli[Baatzis] und ruiniert erm so richtig de Dosn, 1343.7 schhodn, oida.
Shaun Livingstone iMine Industries	Posted - 2008.07.15 12:13:00 - [92] Finished the book and I enjoyed it quite a bit. The EvE story has never really been of interest to me, but this was quite a good intro, seeing as I was (almost completely) without previous knowledge. The aforementioned editorial errors were noticeable and could be irritating for some, depending on their indivual level of anality.
Lesican Minmatar Kinda'Shujaa	Posted - 2008.07.15 16:14:00 - [93] I got the book shortly after release and really enjoyed it. The Caldari story was very good to read as it gave me a really clear view of the state. I also loved the normal persons take on capsuleers. Moar books plz\
Lieutenant Isis Gristle Industries	Posted - 2008.07.15 16:50:00 - [94] Originally by: Lesican Moar books plz\
SiJira	Posted - 2008.08.17 15:39:00 - [95] there must be a sequel Trashed sig, Shark was here

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