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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.30 11:04:00 -
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Edited by: Cippalippus Primus on 30/06/2008 11:04:14
Originally by: Doddy Cippa complains about neo-facism. Cippa rejoins goons. Am i the only one who sees the double standards here. Or is it ok for Goons to do it cos if they do it it must be ironic? I suppose that must be it huh?
I don't know anything about frontal impact, maybe they are all facists, but tbh if people having neo-facist propaganda in their bios, suspious corp/character names, and spouting **** guff in local offends you, wtf are you doing back in GS? To be honest i don't think you give a crap and just want a drama bomb.
ahahahahahhahahahahahahhaha I have only one thing to say to frontal impact: Follow your leader. |

MASSIVEMURDERMACHINE
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.06.30 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: Doddy Cippa complains about neo-facism. Cippa rejoins goons. Am i the only one who sees the double standards here. Or is it ok for Goons to do it cos if they do it it must be ironic? I suppose that must be it huh?
That's rich coming from someone in an alliance called Executive Outcomes. Search for Executive Outcomes on Wikipedia if you don't know who they are.
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2008.06.30 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: MASSIVEMURDERMACHINE
That's rich coming from someone in an alliance called Executive Outcomes. Search for Executive Outcomes on Wikipedia if you don't know who they are.
A South African mercenary company that was employed in a number of sub-Saharan African conflicts during the '90s. What does that have to do with anything?
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Ztrain
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.30 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: FredFred Burger We know the northern napfest, ragoons, but what's left in the GBC now?
Yes
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.06.30 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: Kira Pasisson kira checks bio for neo-fascist stuff, kira checks real-life activity working for anti-racist/facist organisations,kira sees ppl from all over the world in frontal impact....kira thinks....WOOT.....hey guys, do a proper research, cause ur indifference is a trademark of those ppl u condemn
SOME OF MY BEST FREENDS ARE BLACKS AND STUFF
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Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.06.30 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: Deschenus Maximus
Originally by: MASSIVEMURDERMACHINE
That's rich coming from someone in an alliance called Executive Outcomes. Search for Executive Outcomes on Wikipedia if you don't know who they are.
A South African mercenary company that was employed in a number of sub-Saharan African conflicts during the '90s. What does that have to do with anything?
Indeed and we have been through all this before, goons are in no position to have a go at anyone about such things. So we are named after a mercenary company who may or may not (probably did) have committed human rights abuses. If you want to go down to that sort of level any number of corp/alliance/character names in eve will cause offence, especially in goonswarm. They don't bother me at all tbh, but they seem to bother cippa yet he joins goons. I assume from the link he posted he has more to go on than peoples bios and corp names though.
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.30 11:28:00 -
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So anyway what's the deal with you guys white knighting a bunch of neo-fascists just because they're in the GBC? Didn't Dbp and Molle start their crusade against goons for much less than this?
And me, being a goon, has nothing to do with this. Apology of fascism is a crime here (http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apologia_del_fascismo) and I'm really curious to know why the moderators and CCP prefers to edit my posts instead of taking the right actions and permanently ban Bersagliere and disband the corporation Steel Axis. -clp
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.30 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: Doddy
Indeed and we have been through all this before, goons are in no position to have a go at anyone about such things. So we are named after a mercenary company who may or may not (probably did) have committed human rights abuses. If you want to go down to that sort of level any number of corp/alliance/character names in eve will cause offence, especially in goonswarm. They don't bother me at all tbh, but they seem to bother cippa yet he joins goons. I assume from the link he posted he has more to go on than peoples bios and corp names though.
You are just another sheep that can't go above group thinking: the mob rules, as always. But keep defending neo fascists, it's really making you look good. -clp
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MASSIVEMURDERMACHINE
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.06.30 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Deschenus Maximus
Originally by: MASSIVEMURDERMACHINE
That's rich coming from someone in an alliance called Executive Outcomes. Search for Executive Outcomes on Wikipedia if you don't know who they are.
A South African mercenary company that was employed in a number of sub-Saharan African conflicts during the '90s. What does that have to do with anything?
Read the thread.
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Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.06.30 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Cippalippus Primus
Originally by: Doddy
Indeed and we have been through all this before, goons are in no position to have a go at anyone about such things. So we are named after a mercenary company who may or may not (probably did) have committed human rights abuses. If you want to go down to that sort of level any number of corp/alliance/character names in eve will cause offence, especially in goonswarm. They don't bother me at all tbh, but they seem to bother cippa yet he joins goons. I assume from the link he posted he has more to go on than peoples bios and corp names though.
You are just another sheep that can't go above group thinking: the mob rules, as always. But keep defending neo fascists, it's really making you look good.
I haven't defended anyone actually, learn to read. And if anyone here is a sheep it is you not I. I have merely pointed out some apparent double standards on the part of yourself and your fellow goons. When i have been called a facist by a goon simply because of my alliance name while the goons themselves have had their fair share of far-right related scandals, why should i pay attention to another goon calling other people facists? |

Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.06.30 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: MASSIVEMURDERMACHINE Edited by: MASSIVEMURDERMACHINE on 30/06/2008 12:09:09
Originally by: Deschenus Maximus
Originally by: MASSIVEMURDERMACHINE
That's rich coming from someone in an alliance called Executive Outcomes. Search for Executive Outcomes on Wikipedia if you don't know who they are.
A South African mercenary company that was employed in a number of sub-Saharan African conflicts during the '90s. What does that have to do with anything?
When a member of an alliance who knowingly takes the name of a morally ambiguous(and I dare say war profiteering) mercenary corporation claims the moral high ground in a discussion about fascism, and uses the phrase 'double standards' I can't help but to point out the absurdity of it all.
I use the term double-standards exactly because of our alliance name, as goons have made several threads about it before while cheerfully ignoring their own dirty laundry. |

Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.30 12:32:00 -
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Doddy will you get the hell out of this thread or at the very least stay on topic? The matter at hand isn't what goons or executive outcomes say or think, it's wether or not openly fascist names and bios are allowed in Eve online, and I say no. |

Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.06.30 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: Cippalippus Primus Doddy will you get the hell out of this thread or at the very least stay on topic? The matter at hand isn't what goons or executive outcomes say or think, it's wether or not openly fascist names and bios are allowed in Eve online, and I say no.
This is exactly my point cippa, this thread has nothing to do with whether openly facist names and bios are allowed in eve-online. Your hijaking of the thread as a goon (and posting in caod it always has to do with you being a goon) is nothing more than blatant propaganda. You have taken a thread about the GBC (your enemies) and turned it into a mud slinging competition about facism, well done, job done, goony forum war at its best.
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.30 12:47:00 -
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So let me get it right, fascism is wrong as long as it's not a goon reporting it for people in the GBC, in which case it's a-ok?
Good to know. |

Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.06.30 12:50:00 -
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Originally by: Cippalippus Primus So let me get it right, fascism is wrong as long as it's not a goon reporting it for people in the GBC, in which case it's a-ok?
Good to know.
If thats how you interpret what i said then there is probably no getting through to you. If your intention was simply to let people in the GBC know about facism you wouldn't have posted it in CAOD. The only reason you could have for posting it here (not even in its own thread!) is the usual crappy goon spin and propaganda. |

Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.30 12:55:00 -
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Edited by: Cippalippus Primus on 30/06/2008 12:55:46
Originally by: Doddy
Originally by: Cippalippus Primus So let me get it right, fascism is wrong as long as it's not a goon reporting it for people in the GBC, in which case it's a-ok?
Good to know.
If thats how you interpret what i said then there is probably no getting through to you. If your intention was simply to let people in the GBC know about facism you wouldn't have posted it in CAOD. The only reason you could have for posting it here (not even in its own thread!) is the usual crappy goon spin and propaganda.
I already stated it in the past, in other forums, read also by people in the GBC. This is not however about the GBC (I don't care about it), this is about Frontal Impact, not about you, or BoB, or the GBC as a whole. Specifically it's about the characters Lazifax and Bersagliere and their corporations Legionari and Steel Axis- as I said it's not a coincidence that a player praising the fascist regime of the RSI made a corp with that name, or is it?
There is a line between the people I fight in the game and people that bring in the game the same propaganda spewing bullcrap that we had here 60 years ago. CCP needs to step up and say if they want to allow this crap or forbid it. |

enjoi
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.30 12:56:00 -
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Hay guys, what's going on in this thread? I see walls of text which could in no way have been lists of alliances. Way to stay on topic, jerks. |

Bin Matar
Fallen Angel's Blade.
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Posted - 2008.06.30 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: Cippalippus Primus So anyway what's the deal with you guys white knighting a bunch of neo-fascists just because they're in the GBC? Didn't Dbp and Molle start their crusade against goons for much less than this?
And me, being a goon, has nothing to do with this. Apology of fascism is a crime here (http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apologia_del_fascismo) and I'm really curious to know why the moderators and CCP prefers to edit my posts instead of taking the right actions and permanently ban Bersagliere and disband the corporation Steel Axis.
It probably got something to do with a load mouth like you who is a member of an openly racist anti-Semitic group deciding to badmouth a whole alliance based of one members bio and what you think is a dubious corp name.
If the guy has a racist bio then ban him now for good but dont give it the whole im holier than thou routine here it doesn't fit your M.O
Quote: [20:25:09] wtfepixz > did someone just shoot me?
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Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.06.30 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: Cippalippus Primus Edited by: Cippalippus Primus on 30/06/2008 12:55:46
Originally by: Doddy
Originally by: Cippalippus Primus So let me get it right, fascism is wrong as long as it's not a goon reporting it for people in the GBC, in which case it's a-ok?
Good to know.
If thats how you interpret what i said then there is probably no getting through to you. If your intention was simply to let people in the GBC know about facism you wouldn't have posted it in CAOD. The only reason you could have for posting it here (not even in its own thread!) is the usual crappy goon spin and propaganda.
I already stated it in the past, in other forums, read also by people in the GBC. This is not however about the GBC (I don't care about it), this is about Frontal Impact, not about you, or BoB, or the GBC as a whole. Specifically it's about the characters Lazifax and Bersagliere and their corporations Legionari and Steel Axis- as I said it's not a coincidence that a player praising the fascist regime of the RSI made a corp with that name, or is it?
There is a line between the people I fight in the game and people that bring in the game the same propaganda spewing bullcrap that we had here 60 years ago. CCP needs to step up and say if they want to allow this crap or forbid it.
Fair enough. I still dont think this is the place and i will always assume a goon has an ulterior motive but w/e.
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Mo'Chuisle
Gallente Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.06.30 13:17:00 -
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Originally by: Cippalippus Primus
There is a line between the people I fight in the game and people that bring in the game the same propaganda spewing bullcrap that we had here 60 years ago. CCP needs to step up and say if they want to allow this crap or forbid it.
There's a line there somewhere. Having seen your posts elsewhere and reading statements like "I am not apologising" lend me to believe you might be on to something there, but if you're watching from the outside, 5000 manchildren in GS following the meme "ironic-anything is the pinnacle of wit" results in the same tasteless jokes/names/bio's/avatars... as does transporting your real life ideology into the game. And thouroughly derailing a thread about it looks like so similar to thousands of other derailed threads... And that's the point Doddy was making 
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Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.06.30 13:23:00 -
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Originally by: Mo'Chuisle
Originally by: Cippalippus Primus
There is a line between the people I fight in the game and people that bring in the game the same propaganda spewing bullcrap that we had here 60 years ago. CCP needs to step up and say if they want to allow this crap or forbid it.
There's a line there somewhere. Having seen your posts elsewhere and reading statements like "I am not apologising" lend me to believe you might be on to something there, but if you're watching from the outside, 5000 manchildren in GS following the meme "ironic-anything is the pinnacle of wit" results in the same tasteless jokes/names/bio's/avatars... as does transporting your real life ideology into the game. And thouroughly derailing a thread about it looks like so similar to thousands of other derailed threads... And that's the point Doddy was making 
Failing to make evidently. You are right i should just keep away from this place 
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Von Kleist
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.30 13:31:00 -
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You all should just save yourself the effort and disband already, because WE control your game. Goonfleet made you racist mercenary fascists, how could you rejoin us, Cippa?
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enjoi
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.30 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Von Kleist You all should just save yourself the effort and disband already, because WE control your game.
You ain't got no game!
Real men structure tank. |

Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2008.06.30 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: MASSIVEMURDERMACHINE
When a member of an alliance who knowingly takes the name of a morally ambiguous(and I dare say war profiteering) mercenary corporation claims the moral high ground in a discussion about fascism, and uses the phrase 'double standards' I can't help but to point out the absurdity of it all.
Come oooooooon. That's such an extremely weak argument. While PMCs may be "morally ambiguous" to some, that's nothing compared to fascism or racism. Besides, it's not like the EXE guys are promoting real-world mercenarism (is that even a word?). |
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CCP Mitnal
C C P

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Posted - 2008.06.30 18:01:00 -
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*Locked*.
Thread has managed to go a little off-topic, please keep discussion of sensitive material off the forums. |
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