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MineralOel Steuer Amarr OP EC	Posted - 2008.07.01 07:29:00 - [1] Large EMP Smartbomb II Large Proton Smartbomb II Gjallarhorn Improved Cloaking Device II Large Graviton Smartbomb II Large Plasma Smartbomb II Clone Vat Bay I Jump Portal Generator I Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Centus X-Type Armor Thermic Hardener Domination Nanofiber Structure Capital Armor Repairer I Core X-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener Corpus X-Type Armor Explosive Hardener Capital Armor Repairer I Original Killmail Whats your thoughs about this fit? Any improvements?
Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.07.01 07:34:00 - [2] no rigs :(
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.07.01 07:42:00 - [3] Edited by: Akita T on 01/07/2008 07:42:43 Meh, at that incoming damage (presumably down in 10 minutes or thereabout tops, I'd wager) it would have died anyway Now, if that would have been a FULL "nano" fit, it might have had the slightest chance to escape
Felix Dzerzhinsky Caldari Wreckless Abandon Un-Natural Selection	Posted - 2008.07.01 07:42:00 - [4] 1) Poor choise of Titan 2) Poor choise of fittings 3) Poor choise of topic title = obvious troll obvious. What were you trying to accomplish?
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba The Requiem	Posted - 2008.07.01 07:48:00 - [5] Edited by: Sokratesz on 01/07/2008 07:49:00 Originally by: Gneeznow no rigs :( He had trimarks. But it was a very poor fit nonetheless, although that wasnt what killed him, the lag did. He spent so long loading grid that by the time he could see it, he was swarmed and his cap was down. I refuse to respect religious beliefs, and i refuse to respect people who hold them.
Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.07.01 07:50:00 - [6] Originally by: Sokratesz although that wasnt what killed him, the lag did I'm sure every titan pilot out there who has lost a titan has probably said the same thing, I'm sure the 20+ sieged dreads had nothing to do with at all, it was totally the lag that got him.
Tolsimir Wolfblood Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.07.01 07:52:00 - [7] Edited by: Tolsimir Wolfblood on 01/07/2008 07:52:36 nanofiber on a titan....
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba The Requiem	Posted - 2008.07.01 07:57:00 - [8] Originally by: Gneeznow Originally by: Sokratesz although that wasnt what killed him, the lag did I'm sure every titan pilot out there who has lost a titan has probably said the same thing, I'm sure the 20+ sieged dreads had nothing to do with at all, it was totally the lag that got him. Yes it was, read my post. Without lag he could have dd'ed and gotten out but when he finished loading the grid he was tackled and neuted already. Way to go ccp. I refuse to respect religious beliefs, and i refuse to respect people who hold them.
Riho Gallente Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.07.01 08:04:00 - [9] Originally by: Tolsimir Wolfblood Edited by: Tolsimir Wolfblood on 01/07/2008 07:52:36 nanofiber on a titan.... look.. how stupid you are. im suprised he didnt have more. its not a BAD fit... but he should have used more faction stuff on it and ploycarbs or CCC not trimarks ---------------------------------- Fighting for Minmatar o7 Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
Tolsimir Wolfblood Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.07.01 08:07:00 - [10] Edited by: Tolsimir Wolfblood on 01/07/2008 08:12:07 I know how to solve this problem. Put your char back on e-bay were u found it.

Riho Gallente Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.07.01 08:13:00 - [11] Originally by: Tolsimir Wolfblood I know how to solve this problem. Put your char back on e-bay. if thats for me.. then you know nothing :P wanna know why he had a nano (didnt help much if he only had one tho) to get the **** out of the grid you just dd faster. titan needs to get to align fast after dd or its doomed. look at the goon titan loss. 2 of the titans whit the goon titan aligned faster and got the fk out.. but goon one didnt
Tolsimir Wolfblood Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.07.01 08:21:00 - [12] No wasnt to u for shure. I just found it weird to nano a titan. Maby nano pums for riggs and a seige mod to increse tank. My experience with titans is non existent so disregard my ignorence.
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba The Requiem	Posted - 2008.07.01 08:24:00 - [13] Originally by: Tolsimir Wolfblood No wasnt to u for shure. I just found it weird to nano a titan. Maby nano pums for riggs and a seige mod to increse tank. My experience with titans is non existent so disregard my ignorence. Generally, you want to get on grid, DD, and GTFO. Tanking doesnt help against a pack of sieged dreads unless it's epic remote repping you will be doing. IIRC the first MC titan was nano'd complete with snakes so it could get into warp very very fast.
Tolsimir Wolfblood Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.07.01 08:26:00 - [14] Edited by: Tolsimir Wolfblood on 01/07/2008 08:27:08 Thanks for the lesson
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.07.01 08:29:00 - [15] Smartbombs should be better, and the nanofiber is pretty lol. Cap rechargers could be faction/deadpsace/whatever but to be honest, I don't think tank is going to save many Titans and afaik it certainly wouldn't have saved him. But really the most important parts of a Titan in combat is the DD and a smart pilot. The rest is pretty much who cares. Also, OP fails at tired meme. -- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Tolsimir Wolfblood Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.07.01 08:35:00 - [16] Could u possibly tank and nano? A leviathan would be a better choice in a sence. A coupel of estimal invulns and some other faction hardeners plus a cap sheild boost then mass cap recharge mixed with some officer or faction nano fibers with poly carbs?
Riho Gallente Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.07.01 08:40:00 - [17] minni titan is alot more agile than caldari one and i think the MC titan had 1 rep and a EAN i think... rest was nanos and istabs whit polys PS: cant fit siege on titan as far as i know.. only dreads ---------------------------------- Fighting for Minmatar o7 Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.01 08:45:00 - [18] Originally by: Sokratesz Originally by: Gneeznow Originally by: Sokratesz although that wasnt what killed him, the lag did I'm sure every titan pilot out there who has lost a titan has probably said the same thing, I'm sure the 20+ sieged dreads had nothing to do with at all, it was totally the lag that got him. Yes it was, read my post. Without lag he could have dd'ed and gotten out but when he finished loading the grid he was tackled and neuted already. Way to go ccp. Single DD hictors. That would have surely helped him.
Tolsimir Wolfblood Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.07.01 08:46:00 - [19] Yep your right. No were enough CPU on a titan for a mod like that. Would be insane ot put a seige mod on a titan.... Back to reality.
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba The Requiem	Posted - 2008.07.01 08:49:00 - [20] Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam Single DD hictors. That would have surely helped him. Point is, without lag, he couldve aligned, DD, warped, before they got to him. Most of their caps were stuck in bubbles at the time. Also without lag we could have cleared HICS/DICS much more effectively if they did get on him. I refuse to respect religious beliefs, and i refuse to respect people who hold them.

Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.01 08:53:00 - [21] Originally by: Sokratesz Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam Single DD hictors. That would have surely helped him. Point is, without lag, he couldve aligned, DD, warped, before they got to him. Most of their caps were stuck in bubbles at the time. Also without lag we could have cleared HICS/DICS much more effectively if they did get on him. Not quite. The hictors just warped to the cyno, bubbled and then switched to focus. Aligning, dd and warping out especially with that fitting would have had a slight chance of success before they warped to him. If the cyno was below 150km from any fast ship, maybe.
Market AltLOLOLOLO	Posted - 2008.07.01 08:59:00 - [22] Tbh, if you are going to fit it like that, you are going to lose it. The Pilot error of warping a titan to doomsday dreads is the worst titan pilot mistake ever, only second to this crapfit. TCF got handed this kill on a platter. Its like Mike Tyson challangeing you to a 1v1 to the death and you pull out a gun he has nothing. You will win, but that does not make you better boxer than Mike Tyson.
Tolsimir Wolfblood Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.07.01 09:09:00 - [23] So how could we make it better and servive that type of situation?
Market AltLOLOLOLO	Posted - 2008.07.01 09:20:00 - [24] Edited by: Market AltLOLOLOLO on 01/07/2008 09:21:48 Originally by: Tolsimir Wolfblood So how could we make it better and servive that type of situation? have a pilot with enough brains to know that dreadnaught anihilate titans. Seriously, the easy way to kill titans is dreads regardless of titan tank. What was the titan trying to do - doomsday dreadnaughts??? Ignore all the "omg titan overpower" etc crap you read. Titans are very fragile ships vs dreads as dreads are the premier anti-capital ship in eve. You never put your titan in the firing line of dreads since even 2-3 dreads can break a titans tank easaly, let alone 40+ The fitout is secondary to this
Tolsimir Wolfblood Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.07.01 09:32:00 - [25] So the only thing a titan is relativly good for is protecting cyno jammers from being destroyed? Warp in and dd the blob thats attacking it?
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba The Requiem	Posted - 2008.07.01 09:38:00 - [26] Originally by: Tolsimir Wolfblood So the only thing a titan is relativly good for is protecting cyno jammers from being destroyed? Warp in and dd the blob thats attacking it? I thought your alliance would know, with 6 (7?) of em. I refuse to respect religious beliefs, and i refuse to respect people who hold them.
Tolsimir Wolfblood Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.07.01 09:39:00 - [27] Edited by: Tolsimir Wolfblood on 01/07/2008 09:40:11 I'm a week old in that alliance and i'm extreamly interested in caps ingeneral. They havent shared much on that scale. Were is the origonal poster exactly? Seriously I'm asking all the questions.
Domania Convergent Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2008.07.01 10:16:00 - [28] Originally by: MineralOel Steuer Whats your thoughs about this fit? Any improvements? Yes many improvements, first off, you shouldn't armor tank it as there is no point. If your tackled your gonna go down like a brick anyhow. I-stabs and nanofibers are the way to go and a nomad implant set. [Implants] Low Grade Nomad Set [Lows] 3 T2 I-Stabs 3 Domination Nanofibers [Mids] 2 Officer Cap Rechargers Gist X Proton Hardener 2 Dread Invul fhields Officer or Complex shield amp Cap Shield Booster [High] 3 2500mm Autos 2 Officer SB Officer Neut Jump Port DDD [Rigs] 2 Polycarbon Engine Housing I 1 Polycarbon Engine Housing II Gives it a 10 second align time, it would be ready to warp out even before the DDD is done. Jump in, drop DDD, warp out. It's job is done for the day.
Market AltLOLOLOLO	Posted - 2008.07.01 10:19:00 - [29] Originally by: Tolsimir Wolfblood Edited by: Tolsimir Wolfblood on 01/07/2008 09:37:26 So the only thing a titan is relativly good for is protecting cyno jammers from being destroyed? Warp in and dd the blob thats attacking it? I forgot its also one big command ship. Titans dont really protect cynojammers, since nobody camps cynojammers all day every day with titans in anticipation of a attack. I think qy6 system cynojammer took 3 minutes to tear down, and it was a deathstar pos. I do not know about you, but I think it takes a titan pilot longer to log in, come out of emergency warp and warp to a jammer to defend it. Just like the longist gatecamp in history was a max of a few days (ec-P), the longist a cynojammer ever was defended was for like a couple of days I think and that only happened when the attakcers who disabled the cynojammer and reinforced all pos's decided to leave system, thus allowing the defenders to camp the jammer until everything was repaired. That was a epic failure of tactics, and one that is never going to be repeated anytime soon Basically all titans are good for is to force people to use dreadnaughts and carriers insted of carcarels etc vs capitals. Dreadnaughts can laugh off a dozen doomsdays. It also forces a attacker to not ninja reincorce pos's as if they leave system, the defender will repair the jammer and titan camp the jammer untill all pos's are repaired. Both are good things I guess.
MineralOel Steuer Amarr OP EC	Posted - 2008.07.01 12:17:00 - [30] Originally by: Sokratesz Edited by: Sokratesz on 01/07/2008 07:49:00 He had trimarks. But it was a very poor fit nonetheless, although that wasnt what killed him, the lag did. He spent so long loading grid that by the time he could see it, he was swarmed and his cap was down. Originally by: Sokratesz Yes it was, read my post. Without lag he could have dd'ed and gotten out but when he finished loading the grid he was tackled and neuted already. Way to go ccp. Originally by: Sokratesz Point is, without lag, he couldve aligned, DD, warped, before they got to him. Most of their caps were stuck in bubbles at the time. Also without lag we could have cleared HICS/DICS much more effectively if they did get on him. Your tears are so delicious. Oh how I missed those Triumivrate whines, nice that you don't break tradition.

Andrei Vassaliev Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.07.01 14:52:00 - [31] This Titan needs more salvagers
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba The Requiem	Posted - 2008.07.01 14:53:00 - [32] Originally by: MineralOel Steuer Your tears are so delicious. Oh how I missed those Triumivrate whines, nice that you don't break tradition. Can i has tissue?
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.07.01 15:23:00 - [33] The Titan died because it's pilot tried something without adequate support to back him up, it's as simple as that... ------------------------------------------
Crackzilla The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.01 15:33:00 - [34] Originally by: Domania ... Might as well put cap rechargers, a few sensor boosters, and officer webs in the mids. And guns in the highs? Wouldn't another officer neut + smartbombs be a better choice?
Arvald Caldari Aurora Acclivitous Paxton Federation	Posted - 2008.07.01 16:01:00 - [35] obviously a passive shield tank with citadel launchers salvagers and tractors in the highs is the way to go.........ill go back to my hole now Originally by: Xanos Blackpaw Stealthbomber combat (or as i like to call it: Just because you *are* paranoid don't mean there isnt a invisible demon about to eat your face)
Hannobaal Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.07.01 16:18:00 - [36] Edited by: Hannobaal on 01/07/2008 16:19:01 I don't understand the point of the nanofiber. If all you want is agility, an inertial stabilizer is far superior to a nanofiber. Edit: Isn't this the best proof that there are too many Titans now that people are getting lol kills like this? -------------------------- recruit me
Atsuko Ratu Caldari VSP Corp.	Posted - 2008.07.01 16:26:00 - [37] Originally by: Domania Originally by: MineralOel Steuer Whats your thoughs about this fit? Any improvements? Yes many improvements, first off, you shouldn't armor tank it as there is no point. If your tackled your gonna go down like a brick anyhow. I-stabs and nanofibers are the way to go and a nomad implant set. [Implants] Low Grade Nomad Set [Lows] 3 T2 I-Stabs 3 Domination Nanofibers [Mids] 2 Officer Cap Rechargers Gist X Proton Hardener 2 Dread Invul fhields Officer or Complex shield amp Cap Shield Booster [High] 3 2500mm Autos 2 Officer SB Officer Neut Jump Port DDD [Rigs] 2 Polycarbon Engine Housing I 1 Polycarbon Engine Housing II Gives it a 10 second align time, it would be ready to warp out even before the DDD is done. Jump in, drop DDD, warp out. It's job is done for the day. This is good, aside from the guns. Titans don't use guns. You'd be better off with a cloak and more smartbombs, or more neuts. My favorite part was the skill remark. That made my day
Gjs312 A Murder of Crows.	Posted - 2008.07.01 17:56:00 - [38] Originally by: Atsuko Ratu Originally by: Domania Originally by: MineralOel Steuer Whats your thoughs about this fit? Any improvements? Yes many improvements, first off, you shouldn't armor tank it as there is no point. If your tackled your gonna go down like a brick anyhow. I-stabs and nanofibers are the way to go and a nomad implant set. [Implants] Low Grade Nomad Set [Lows] 3 T2 I-Stabs 3 Domination Nanofibers [Mids] 2 Officer Cap Rechargers Gist X Proton Hardener 2 Dread Invul fhields Officer or Complex shield amp Cap Shield Booster [High] 3 2500mm Autos 2 Officer SB Officer Neut Jump Port DDD [Rigs] 2 Polycarbon Engine Housing I 1 Polycarbon Engine Housing II Gives it a 10 second align time, it would be ready to warp out even before the DDD is done. Jump in, drop DDD, warp out. It's job is done for the day. This is good, aside from the guns. Titans don't use guns. You'd be better off with a cloak and more smartbombs, or more neuts. Insane to fly a titan without a cloak fyi, and not that it really matters on a titan, but local hull istabs give the same agility bonus for less of a sig radius penalty. On topic- This titan fit was indeed horrible (1 nano and an armor tank? no rigs? t2 smartbombs? can you seriously tell me that this is a good fit?). Plus it seems unlikely that lag materialized out of nowhere so warping a titan into a situation where you know its going to lag to **** is probably not such a good idea, just saying. But in the end, this is a troll OP and all so whatever .
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba The Requiem	Posted - 2008.07.01 18:14:00 - [39] Originally by: Gjs312 But in the end, this is a troll OP and all so whatever . He had trimarks fitted, and he jumped in, not warped. I refuse to respect religious beliefs, and i refuse to respect people who hold them.
Crackzilla The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.01 19:17:00 - [40] Originally by: Sokratesz and he jumped in, not warped. Thats worse. 1) A cyno is an easy easy "Warp-to-me" sign for any hic in the system. And a cyno on grid? 2) The cap will show on grid but likely not loaded for the pilot for at least 5 seconds with little lag 3) With lag it might take 30-60 (plus) seconds for the grid to load. 4) There isn't any way to be already aligned to the next sling for after the doomsday. Warping from grid to grid with lag seems to be fairly dangerous. A cyno seems to be pure suicide unless it has a massive cap fleet to follow.

Tappits Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.07.01 20:39:00 - [41] titans/moms seem to die offen past 2 months or so???? wise investment????
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba The Requiem	Posted - 2008.07.01 23:05:00 - [42] Originally by: ***zilla Originally by:** Sokratesz and he jumped in, not warped. Thats worse. 1) A cyno is an easy easy "Warp-to-me" sign for any hic in the system. And a cyno on grid? 2) The cap will show on grid but likely not loaded for the pilot for at least 5 seconds with little lag 3) With lag it might take 30-60 (plus) seconds for the grid to load. 4) There isn't any way to be already aligned to the next sling for after the doomsday. Warping from grid to grid with lag seems to be fairly dangerous. A cyno seems to be pure suicide unless it has a massive cap fleet to follow. I never claimed it was a smart move ;) Just elaborating. I refuse to respect religious beliefs, and i refuse to respect people who hold them.
Stab Wounds	Posted - 2008.07.01 23:59:00 - [43] Edited by: Stab Wounds on 02/07/2008 00:00:12 Originally by: Domania Originally by: MineralOel Steuer Whats your thoughs about this fit? Any improvements? Yes many improvements, first off, you shouldn't armor tank it as there is no point. If your tackled your gonna go down like a brick anyhow. I-stabs and nanofibers are the way to go and a nomad implant set. [Implants] Low Grade Nomad Set [Lows] 3 T2 I-Stabs 3 Domination Nanofibers [Mids] 2 Officer Cap Rechargers Gist X Proton Hardener 2 Dread Invul fhields Officer or Complex shield amp Cap Shield Booster [High] 3 2500mm Autos 2 Officer SB Officer Neut Jump Port DDD [Rigs] 2 Polycarbon Engine Housing I 1 Polycarbon Engine Housing II Gives it a 10 second align time, it would be ready to warp out even before the DDD is done. Jump in, drop DDD, warp out. It's job is done for the day. nano titan? umm try a tank ???? [Ragnarok] Draclira's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Draclira's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Damage Control II Cormack's Modified Armor Explosive Hardener Capital Armor Repairer I Capital Armor Repairer I Mizuro's Modified Warp Disruptor Domination Stasis Webifier Gist A-Type 100MN MicroWarpdrive Amarr Navy Cap Recharger Amarr Navy Cap Recharger Amarr Navy Cap Recharger Amarr Navy Cap Recharger 6x2500mm Repeating Artillery I, Republic Fleet EMP XL 6x2500mm Repeating Artillery I, Republic Fleet EMP XL 6x2500mm Repeating Artillery I, Republic Fleet EMP XL 6x2500mm Repeating Artillery I, Republic Fleet EMP XL 6x2500mm Repeating Artillery I, Republic Fleet EMP XL Gjallarhorn Clone Vat Bay I Jump Portal Generator I Trimark Armor Pump II Trimark Armor Pump II Trimark Armor Pump II
Crackzilla The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.02 00:13:00 - [44] Edited by: ***zilla on 02/07/2008 00:13:46 Originally by: Sokratesz I never claimed it was a smart move ;) Just elaborating. Fair enough. /me tips hat. Originally by: Stab Wounds ... Never ever put guns on a titan. The only titan that has ever sported guns (afaik) has been CCP on the test server. The highs are simply too important for other mods. And if those guns are useful you're hosed. Guns on a titan have poor dps which is the least of their problems. And trimarks assume you're going to be shot. Cap rigs are probably a good idea. More so with a double armor rep setup. Clone vat bay is mostly a waste. Let motherships or rorquals use that if absolutely required. Needs cloak, neuts, smartbombs, etc.
Guillame Herschel Gallente Buffalo Soldiers	Posted - 2008.07.02 00:43:00 - [45] Edited by: Guillame Herschel on 02/07/2008 00:45:42 Originally by: Domania [Implants] Low Grade Nomad Set That makes sense for quick warp-outs. Not stacking-nerfed with istabs or agility rigs, either. Quote: [Lows] 3 T2 I-Stabs 3 Domination Nanofibers T2 istabs are pointless. Best-named T1 improve agility by the same amount as T2, but with a much smaller sig radius penalty. I realize sig radius reduction on a Titan is rather pointless, but still... And the Thukker faction istabs are even better, if someone would just cash in the LP points for them. :) Quote: [Rigs] 2 Polycarbon Engine Housing I 1 Polycarbon Engine Housing II This doesn't make much sense to me. The istabs are providing most of the agility boost. And the Domi nanofibers are stacking penalized with polycarbs, so you're really gimping the agility boost by relying on stacking-nerfed polys/nanos. Now, it also occurs to me that even a highly-stack-nerfed nanofiber will still remove several million kg of mass from a Titan, and might still be effective relative to a smaller ship. But won't agility rigs provide a better boost to align/warp-off speed than all those polys/nanos? *-- The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then* --**
Domania Convergent Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2008.07.02 01:32:00 - [46] I know guns aren't needed, I just thought it would look cool. Sure it would need a cloak and more neuts, but I don't fly one so it never came to me. I guess fitting bested named I-stabs is fine, not gonna make a major difference. Your right that the rigs get stacked, in fact removing the 2 T1's and just putting on 2 T2's and then a cap rig would still make it warp faster by about 0.4 seconds than the 3 poly rigs. Originally by: "stabwounds" armor tank so it takes 1 mins to align You missed the whole point of what the titan's role is, it's not suppose to tank, it can't ever tank if it's caught by a 15 man dread fleet. It's the same with every other titan. Nano it and it will live longer than that 30 billion cormack fitted tanked titan. So pretty much the update would be. [Implants] Low Grade Nomad Set [Lows] 3 Best Named I-Stabs 3 Domination Nanofibers [Mids] 2 Officer Cap Rechargers Gist X Proton Hardener 2 Dread Invul fhields Officer or Complex shield amp Cap Shield Booster [High] 1 Concord Cloak for the LOLZ 3 Officer SB 2Officer Neut Jump Port DDD [Rigs] 1 Cap Rig 2 Polycarbon Engine Housing II To be honest, you might as well remove the amp and put something else on, maybe another cap recharger, but there is no point to making to cap recharge uber fast as it takes 10 min to jump out after a DDD and an hour to do another DDD. Besides once you jump, it's only gonna use up 71% of your cap out of 120 k at max skills, which leaves more than enough to set off a DDD when you jump in.
Zo5o Gallente Longcat is Long	Posted - 2008.07.02 03:47:00 - [47] Where's the 01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I?
MineralOel Steuer Amarr OP EC	Posted - 2008.07.02 05:38:00 - [48] Originally by: Sokratesz He had trimarks. But it was a very poor fit nonetheless, although that wasnt what killed him, the lag did. He spent so long loading grid that by the time he could see it, he was swarmed and his cap was down. Originally by: Sokratesz Yes it was, read my post. Without lag he could have dd'ed and gotten out but when he finished loading the grid he was tackled and neuted already. Way to go ccp. Originally by: Sokratesz Point is, without lag, he couldve aligned, DD, warped, before they got to him. Most of their caps were stuck in bubbles at the time. Also without lag we could have cleared HICS/DICS much more effectively if they did get on him. Lag is a very poor excuse of what went wrong. First you eigther passiv tank a Titan and remoterepair it with carriers or you nano it so it can align "fast" and warp off to a safespot. This Titan use to be Active tanked, which is just stupid cause as soon as he set of a doomsday device he kills most of his own cap plus he gets tackeld and neutralized .(one dd won't kill a heavy Interdictor nor a well tanked "rr battleship") Also more than half of the Titans gear was T2. clearly a facepalm. Second, why was no one helping him? I mean a good Fleetcommander should know if a Titan from your own Alliance is nearby. And it seams that there where enough Carriers in your fleet to boost him and help him out of this mess. though it would have been a risk to the carriers to "save a Supercapital" but that's what an Alliance is about, help eachother out when there's a problem. The only numbers I care about are 3-2-1-launch..
Greckor Monmouth THE FINAL STAND	Posted - 2008.07.02 05:41:00 - [49] CAOD is way
Big Zulu Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.07.02 07:20:00 - [50] A T2 plated Devoter (Amarr HIC takes two - three DDD hits to blow up. _________ I has bree..

Zaran Darkstar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.07.02 11:24:00 - [51] Edited by: Zaran Darkstar on 02/07/2008 11:24:44 Apart from the lack of rigs (not shown in the screenshot- i don't know if thats a bug) I find severe the lack of DCII. Along with the installation of a nanofiber makes it even worse. Now in EFT this fitting gives around 3220 omni tank which is not great. I would prefer shield tanking that with 2 estamel invulnerability fields and the rest tech 2 would be able to perma omni tank with resistences at around 86% for 8225 dps. Also i would install gang modules and not the useless smartbombs. But yeah probably would still go down. Maybe some terrible mistake of the FC along with tremendous lag cannot be beaten no matter what fitting on has...
Lumberjack Phil	Posted - 2008.07.02 12:13:00 - [52] Originally by: Zaran Darkstar Edited by: Zaran Darkstar on 02/07/2008 11:24:44 Apart from the lack of rigs (not shown in the screenshot- i don't know if thats a bug) I find severe the lack of DCII. Along with the installation of a nanofiber makes it even worse. Now in EFT this fitting gives around 3220 omni tank which is not great. I would prefer shield tanking that with 2 estamel invulnerability fields and the rest tech 2 would be able to perma omni tank with resistences at around 86% for 8225 dps. Also i would install gang modules and not the useless smartbombs. But yeah probably would still go down. Maybe some terrible mistake of the FC along with tremendous lag cannot be beaten no matter what fitting on has... Lemme let you in on a secret...2 sieging dreads is all you need to kill a titan if its tackled, itll take bit, but thats all you need. Get as many as TCF had, and its going to melt. The hit and run method is pretty much the way to go in most cases, it just happens that said titan pilot in this case was ********.
Xtreem Gallente Knockaround Guys Inc. Exxxotic	Posted - 2008.07.02 12:25:00 - [53] other than having no rigs i dont see a prbolem with the fit, and dont know why people seem to think everything has to be officer, every time i titan has died thus far an officer fit would not have helped them, and givien more to the attacking force in loot and more of a loss for the owner, but meh!
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba The Requiem	Posted - 2008.07.02 12:40:00 - [54] Originally by: Xtreem other than having no rigs i dont see a prbolem with the fit, and dont know why people seem to think everything has to be officer, every time i titan has died thus far an officer fit would not have helped them, and givien more to the attacking force in loot and more of a loss for the owner, but meh! learn2read I refuse to respect religious beliefs, and i refuse to respect people who hold them.
Crackzilla The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.02 14:23:00 - [55] Originally by: Zaran Darkstar I would prefer shield tanking ... Also i would install gang modules and not the useless smartbombs. Any sort of tanking usually wouldn't help much. The pilot is hosed. Either they ignore tanking and fit to kill dictors/hics. Or they fit some sort of tank. Either way everyone will treat it as a comedy killmail. One more reason not to fly titans. Smart bombs are required to kill fighters, drones, and scare away dictors. With a few smartbombs going most of the dps from carriers can be countered. If the titan can still move and maintain a traversal that will negate much of the damage from dreads. So smartbombs are required. Gang modules have their own issues. As it has been discovered, best to keep titans outside of large gangs. Better to keep a titan in its own gang so that it can safely afk cloak at a safe spot, etc. So the majority of the time titans wouldn't give gang bonuses unless they're sitting at a pos.
Ulstan Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.07.02 14:43:00 - [56] Ahaha, look at all the poor phoenix doing 0 damage because smartbombs blow up citadel torps.
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles Zzz	Posted - 2008.07.02 14:45:00 - [57] Edited by: Kazuo Ishiguro on 02/07/2008 14:47:06 Do people ever bother with clone vat bays on titans? I only mention it because with the 5,000,000m^3 ship maintenance bay, you can potentially jump in quite a lot of support... Zzz research towers Direrie NEW: Liekuri 20:1 low-end compression
Tolsimir Wolfblood Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.07.02 15:43:00 - [58] Edited by: Tolsimir Wolfblood on 02/07/2008 15:43:50 Would most titan piolets not move there titan more then say 10 or so jumps out of there home system any way? In the case of an invasion wouldnt it be smarter to use a jump bridge then warp to a ceptor or sumthing off grid and then fly on grid let it load and then possibly warp to a fleet member with in the proper distence to let the DDD fly?
Crackzilla The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.02 16:11:00 - [59] Edited by: ***zilla on 02/07/2008 16:11:13 Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro Do people ever bother with clone vat bays on titans? Often not even motherships bother with them. The titan must be outside of a POS shields. It enters a type of siege mode where it can't move for something like 5 minutes. Then if someone has set a jump clone and hasn't already jumped in 24 hours they can jump to the titan. So it could be used with a fair bit of prior planning. On the other hand if the system is held well enough to take the risk, whats the point? Use carriers to jump in spare battleships. Get the pods in using ceptors and nanos.
Haniblecter Teg F.R.E.E. Explorer	Posted - 2008.07.02 16:16:00 - [60] As to all the lows with full speed, eh. I say a repclacing a nanofiber with a lone DCUII will show incredible returns. Cause who can say whether the massive HP it'd give wouldnt be time enough. ----------------- Friends Forever

SickSeven	Posted - 2008.07.02 16:40:00 - [61] Isn't there something fundementally wrong here? Do you people realize your talking about speed/agility fitting the largest ships in the EVE universe for hit and run tactics????? Uhh, CCP, I think your titans are broken.....
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba The Requiem	Posted - 2008.07.02 16:52:00 - [62] Originally by: SickSeven Isn't there something fundementally wrong here? Do you people realize your talking about speed/agility fitting the largest ships in the EVE universe for hit and run tactics????? Uhh, CCP, I think your titans are broken..... It's the only way unfortunatly, and it will remain like that untill CCP gives supercaps something like a 1000% bonus to capital repair and shield boost amount. I refuse to respect religious beliefs, and i refuse to respect people who hold them.
Arvald Caldari Aurora Acclivitous Paxton Federation	Posted - 2008.07.02 16:52:00 - [63] Originally by: SickSeven Isn't there something fundementally wrong here? Do you people realize your talking about speed/agility fitting the largest ships in the EVE universe for hit and run tactics????? Uhh, CCP, I think your titans are broken..... if you can run in nuke everyting that could tackle you in one blast then get out 5-15 seconds after, long before the enemy can get more hic's and dictor's on you, then yes Originally by: Xanos Blackpaw Stealthbomber combat (or as i like to call it: Just because you *are* paranoid don't mean there isnt a invisible demon about to eat your face)
Trojanman190 D00M. The Requiem	Posted - 2008.07.02 17:01:00 - [64] Originally by: Arvald Originally by: SickSeven Isn't there something fundementally wrong here? Do you people realize your talking about speed/agility fitting the largest ships in the EVE universe for hit and run tactics????? Uhh, CCP, I think your titans are broken..... if you can run in nuke everyting that could tackle you in one blast then get out 5-15 seconds after, long before the enemy can get more hic's and dictor's on you, then yes But that's the only way to do it right now... other than the dd it has no real offensive weapons and the tank on a titan is lawl. There is no other conceivable way for this ship to behave than warp in, do your thing, warp out. Once it has used its dd it is effectively useless and has no real reason to stay on the battlefield. Massive defense bonuses? Slots for capital weapons? Epic drone bonuses? Super duper RR bonuses? It would be nice if the ship had a really good reason to stay on the battlefield once it showed up.... fights would surely be more epic. But with any of these bonuses the ship runs the risk of becoming to over powered... Either way things suck the way they are.
Arvald Caldari Aurora Acclivitous Paxton Federation	Posted - 2008.07.02 17:02:00 - [65] Originally by: Trojanman190 Originally by: Arvald Originally by: SickSeven Isn't there something fundementally wrong here? Do you people realize your talking about speed/agility fitting the largest ships in the EVE universe for hit and run tactics????? Uhh, CCP, I think your titans are broken..... if you can run in nuke everyting that could tackle you in one blast then get out 5-15 seconds after, long before the enemy can get more hic's and dictor's on you, then yes But that's the only way to do it right now... other than the dd it has no real offensive weapons and the tank on a titan is lawl. There is no other conceivable way for this ship to behave than warp in, do your thing, warp out. Once it has used its dd it is effectively useless and has no real reason to stay on the battlefield. Massive defense bonuses? Slots for capital weapons? Epic drone bonuses? Super duper RR bonuses? It would be nice if the ship had a really good reason to stay on the battlefield once it showed up.... fights would surely be more epic. But with any of these bonuses the ship runs the risk of becoming to over powered... Either way things suck the way they are. hell just give it a siege mod, and 3 more high slots to fit capital weapons Originally by: Xanos Blackpaw Stealthbomber combat (or as i like to call it: Just because you *are* paranoid don't mean there isnt a invisible demon about to eat your face)
Crackzilla The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.02 17:06:00 - [66] Originally by: Arvald if you can run in nuke everyting that could tackle you in one blast then get out 5-15 seconds after The CCP answer will be that Titans should not be used alone. Titans should be fielded along with a mixed fleet including battleships, carriers, and dreads. Everyone else has realized that Titans are the ultimate stealth bomber. The "submarine" of eve. Pop up, wreck havoc, leave. So the fittings reflect the usage of the Titan as a lone wolf. Something that CCP disagrees with.


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