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selestialia
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Posted - 2008.07.02 16:22:00 -
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Can anyone give me some advice on requirements for tanking 2 sentry guns in a 0.4 system at a gate?
Flying a Myrmidon
What would I need to have fitted / equipped?
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Flaming sambuka
Gallente Shadow Company Souls of Vengeance
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Posted - 2008.07.02 16:36:00 -
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Edited by: Flaming sambuka on 02/07/2008 16:41:00 2 mar II, 2 eanm II, dcu II and two nanobot accel's for rigs. Should do it, might even be overkill.
Edit: Just checked, this will do it np: leaves room for all your other mods too.
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Grann Thefauto
Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.07.02 16:38:00 -
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Its actually not too hard to tank sentries in a 0.4. Just remember that sentries do all damage types, so you might be better off with 3 specific hardeners.
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Bai ZongTong
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Posted - 2008.07.03 02:09:00 -
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what DPS do sentries do?
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Cpt Branko
Surge. NIght's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.07.03 02:23:00 -
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Originally by: Bai ZongTong what DPS do sentries do?
Roughly 330-ish DPS, mostly kinetic and thermal. I really don't have the exact figures.
Anyway, a Myrmidon with 2x MAR II, 3x EANM II, 1x DC II and BC V should tank them OK.
You can also tri-harden it to get a better tank (which consumes more cap and you're in deep trouble if you run into a Amarr ship.
Mind you, sentries will shoot your drones, so keep them in unless you really need them to win.
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Shigsy
The Golden Goat
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Posted - 2008.07.03 03:33:00 -
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you can tank sentries in a t2 industrial...
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pushdogg
Minmatar Vermin. HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.07.03 06:56:00 -
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you know tanking sentries is easier than you think.....its just what you fit that makes you comfortable with the fact that you will be shot constantly, by the sentries and your "victim"....tbh i can hold out against sentries in a buffered hurricane long enough for back up to lock them down....really the question is, are you ready for the challenge of taking on the sentries and a suitable opponent at the same time. best sig ever:)
Originally by: Soul Harvestor You're an idiot.
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Alan Maher
You're Doing It Wrong
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Posted - 2008.07.03 07:31:00 -
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I'd advise against tanking sentries solo. Soon as someone worth their salt comes along they will have a massive advantage against you.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.03 09:07:00 -
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Two things to note:
1) Sentries do all damage types, but they're biased towards kinetic/thermal. Make sure your tank reflects this fact (it should make it a lot easier).
2) The Myrmidon is a TERRIBLE ship for ganking under the sentry guns. Sentries will almost instantly pop all of your drones, leaving you with very little firepower. It might be fine for ganking haulers or newbie cruisers, but if you run into a decent combat ship you've lost the offense for a quick gank, and you don't have the tank to survive a long fight.
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Cpt Branko
Surge. NIght's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.07.03 09:20:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 03/07/2008 09:21:12
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
2) The Myrmidon is a TERRIBLE ship for ganking under the sentry guns. Sentries will almost instantly pop all of your drones, leaving you with very little firepower. It might be fine for ganking haulers or newbie cruisers, but if you run into a decent combat ship you've lost the offense for a quick gank, and you don't have the tank to survive a long fight.
This is misleading.
If you're solo camping in a BC, you're attacking either utter nubbins in T1 cruisers or haulers (which is the idea anyway). You can pop both with guns, maybe assisted by a flight of T1 drones.
If you catch a, say, competent Rupture pilot in any BC, you'll almost certainly just die from the 850-ish DPS you'll get from the cruiser plus sentries, the Myrm is neither better nor worse then the rest of them.
Attacking any semi-decently fit BC under sentries solo in a BC is a awesomely good way to die.
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AsfALT
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.07.03 09:31:00 -
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Speaking of ruptures, this fight really happened: 1600rupture jumps into abbdon+ravne+drake camp
rupture kills drake and due to beaing stupid (i was the pilot) and not moving out of scram and warping tryes to resist until it can jump and dies when there were no more the 5-10 sec left.
This was a warning that gate tanking in anything but a strong DPS BS reduces your target choice considerably.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.04 01:45:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko Edited by: Cpt Branko on 03/07/2008 09:21:12
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
2) The Myrmidon is a TERRIBLE ship for ganking under the sentry guns. Sentries will almost instantly pop all of your drones, leaving you with very little firepower. It might be fine for ganking haulers or newbie cruisers, but if you run into a decent combat ship you've lost the offense for a quick gank, and you don't have the tank to survive a long fight.
This is misleading.
If you're solo camping in a BC, you're attacking either utter nubbins in T1 cruisers or haulers (which is the idea anyway). You can pop both with guns, maybe assisted by a flight of T1 drones.
If you catch a, say, competent Rupture pilot in any BC, you'll almost certainly just die from the 850-ish DPS you'll get from the cruiser plus sentries, the Myrm is neither better nor worse then the rest of them.
Attacking any semi-decently fit BC under sentries solo in a BC is a awesomely good way to die.
But if you're going to only use your guns, why not fly a Brutix instead? The whole point of the Myrmidon is its drones, take that away and you're better off using a different BC.
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Stab Wounds
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Posted - 2008.07.04 01:56:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Originally by: Cpt Branko Edited by: Cpt Branko on 03/07/2008 09:21:12
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
2) The Myrmidon is a TERRIBLE ship for ganking under the sentry guns. Sentries will almost instantly pop all of your drones, leaving you with very little firepower. It might be fine for ganking haulers or newbie cruisers, but if you run into a decent combat ship you've lost the offense for a quick gank, and you don't have the tank to survive a long fight.
This is misleading.
If you're solo camping in a BC, you're attacking either utter nubbins in T1 cruisers or haulers (which is the idea anyway). You can pop both with guns, maybe assisted by a flight of T1 drones.
If you catch a, say, competent Rupture pilot in any BC, you'll almost certainly just die from the 850-ish DPS you'll get from the cruiser plus sentries, the Myrm is neither better nor worse then the rest of them.
Attacking any semi-decently fit BC under sentries solo in a BC is a awesomely good way to die.
But if you're going to only use your guns, why not fly a Brutix instead? The whole point of the Myrmidon is its drones, take that away and you're better off using a different BC.
A brutix will pop in 30 seconds under sentry fire anyway. Myrmidon is a much better choice.
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Cpt Branko
Surge. NIght's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.07.04 05:52:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin
But if you're going to only use your guns, why not fly a Brutix instead? The whole point of the Myrmidon is its drones, take that away and you're better off using a different BC.
You're right, but the Myrmidon tanks much better, which is quite relevant under sentries. The Brutix will fully tank them only rigged and using all its lows, the Myrmidon doesn't even need rigs if you have BC IV/V.
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Kano Sekor
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2008.07.04 06:39:00 -
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Sentry guns deal the following damage:
Em:16 Thermal:28 Kinetic:28 Explosive:16 RoF:1.75 and Damage Mod:3.5
Which yields a combined DPS of 352 dps.
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.07.04 06:42:00 -
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sentry tanking article
On that, yes, a myrm will work somewhat, but dont do it solo...
sentry drones are your best bet if you absolutely MUST do it solo. they have a few thousand hp, and are good enough to sit there and take damage till you can scoop them in... and they dont go anywhere, so that is instantly.
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H Lecter
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Posted - 2008.07.04 07:59:00 -
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Originally by: Lance Fighter sentry tanking article
On that, yes, a myrm will work somewhat, but dont do it solo...
sentry drones are your best bet if you absolutely MUST do it solo. they have a few thousand hp, and are good enough to sit there and take damage till you can scoop them in... and they dont go anywhere, so that is instantly.
^^^^ THIS
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Rivqua
Caldari Omega Wing
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Posted - 2008.07.04 08:03:00 -
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Erm, wtf, both brutix and myrm have the same tank bonuses.
/Riv
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Morel Nova
z3r0 Gravity
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Posted - 2008.07.04 10:26:00 -
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I'v used a myrm quite a bit in gatecamps, but doing it solo is a big no-no since you cant handle dps from gateguns + target if something other than a hauler jumps through. They make nice tacklers with some sensor booster on there though.
sentry drones are great as already mentioned. hammerheads will die way too fast.
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