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Sniper Wolf18
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Posted - 2008.07.02 20:25:00 -
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Edited by: Sniper Wolf18 on 02/07/2008 20:24:58
What would the maximum amount of time a human could theroetically survive in the vacuum of space before dying? Assuming no breathing aparatus/temprature regulation ETC.
Long-term survival afterwords is not a problem.
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Sniper Wolf18
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Apocalypse Ponies
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Posted - 2008.07.02 20:25:00 -
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Edited by: Sniper Wolf18 on 02/07/2008 20:24:58
What would the maximum amount of time a human could theroetically survive in the vacuum of space before dying? Assuming no breathing aparatus/temprature regulation ETC.
Long-term survival afterwords is not a problem.
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Shinnen
Caldari
Northern Intelligence
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Posted - 2008.07.02 20:26:00 -
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a few minutes... The whole thing about blood boiling, head exploding right on the spot isn't true.
Nerfing my own sig, it's too big - Shinnen
 Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
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Shinnen
Caldari
Northern Intelligence
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Posted - 2008.07.02 20:26:00 -
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a few minutes... The whole thing about blood boiling, head exploding right on the spot isn't true.
Nerfing my own sig, it's too big - Shinnen
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
This porposal have good brans.
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Sniper Wolf18
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Apocalypse Ponies
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Posted - 2008.07.02 20:28:00 -
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Edited by: Sniper Wolf18 on 02/07/2008 20:28:23
Originally by: Shinnen
a few minutes... The whole thing about blood boiling, head exploding right on the spot isn't true.
Yay, now i need to move onto controlled testing.
I need a space shuttle, death star or similar. I also need a few volunteers, any takers?
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Sniper Wolf18
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Apocalypse Ponies
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Posted - 2008.07.02 20:28:00 -
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Edited by: Sniper Wolf18 on 02/07/2008 20:28:23
Originally by: Shinnen
a few minutes... The whole thing about blood boiling, head exploding right on the spot isn't true.
Yay, now i need to move onto controlled testing.
I need a space shuttle, death star or similar. I also need a few volunteers, any takers?
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2008.07.02 20:33:00 -
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First, movies aside you will not explode (swell a bit but nothing you couldn't recover from).
Second, your blood will not boil. Your body will hold together more than well enough to maintain internal pressure. The water on your eyes may boil off however. Not sure if that would hurt but would have to be a bizarre feeling to say the least (so close your eyes).
Mostly you will suffocate before anything else gets you. Maybe 30 seconds of consciousness and then 2-3 minutes till you die.
Also, if you hold your breath, you will suffer embolisms (air sacs in your lungs will start popping). This effect is well understood by anyone who has gotten a scuba certification.
Unprotected in the sunlight might get you some very nasty burns as well. If you are in the shade it is of course exceptionally cold but in the vacuum of space you can only radiate heat away which is inefficient. You will suffocate long before you freeze to death (you would freeze to death faster swimming naked in arctic waters than you would in space).
If someone pulls you to safety within 30 seconds you will probably recover fully.
And no, no one has tested this on a human but before PETA came around scientists put animals in vacuum chambers to see what would happen. Also that dude who did the highest sky dive ever lost pressure in one of his gloves and was high enough to be near a vacuum. His hand swelled but once he came back to earth things returned to normal.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2008.07.02 20:33:00 -
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First, movies aside you will not explode (swell a bit but nothing you couldn't recover from).
Second, your blood will not boil. Your body will hold together more than well enough to maintain internal pressure. The water on your eyes may boil off however. Not sure if that would hurt but would have to be a bizarre feeling to say the least (so close your eyes).
Mostly you will suffocate before anything else gets you. Maybe 30 seconds of consciousness and then 2-3 minutes till you die.
Also, if you hold your breath, you will suffer embolisms (air sacs in your lungs will start popping). This effect is well understood by anyone who has gotten a scuba certification.
Unprotected in the sunlight might get you some very nasty burns as well. If you are in the shade it is of course exceptionally cold but in the vacuum of space you can only radiate heat away which is inefficient. You will suffocate long before you freeze to death (you would freeze to death faster swimming naked in arctic waters than you would in space).
If someone pulls you to safety within 30 seconds you will probably recover fully.
And no, no one has tested this on a human but before PETA came around scientists put animals in vacuum chambers to see what would happen. Also that dude who did the highest sky dive ever lost pressure in one of his gloves and was high enough to be near a vacuum. His hand swelled but once he came back to earth things returned to normal.
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Shinnen
Caldari
Northern Intelligence
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Posted - 2008.07.02 20:34:00 -
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Edited by: Shinnen on 02/07/2008 20:35:05
You don't need a shuttle to get a vacuum.
Maiiiin problem is, on earth you can't check the effects of cosmic radiation that would affect you in space.
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=survival-in-space-unprotected-possible
They did it with dogs for up to 90 seconds there and they survived.
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But death is not instantaneous. For example, one 1965 study by researchers at the Brooks Air Force Base in Texas showed that dogs exposed to near vacuumùone three-hundred-eightieth of atmospheric pressure at sea levelùfor up to 90 seconds always survived. During their exposure, they were unconscious and paralyzed. Gas expelled from their bowels and stomachs caused simultaneous defecation, projectile vomiting and urination. They suffered massive seizures. Their tongues were often coated in ice and the dogs swelled to resemble "an inflated goatskin bag," the authors wrote. But after slight repressurization the dogs shrank back down, began to breathe, and after 10 to 15 minutes at sea level pressure, they managed to walk, though it took a few more minutes for their apparent blindness to wear off.
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
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Shinnen
Caldari
Northern Intelligence
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Posted - 2008.07.02 20:34:00 -
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Edited by: Shinnen on 02/07/2008 20:35:05
You don't need a shuttle to get a vacuum.
Maiiiin problem is, on earth you can't check the effects of cosmic radiation that would affect you in space.
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=survival-in-space-unprotected-possible
They did it with dogs for up to 90 seconds there and they survived.
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But death is not instantaneous. For example, one 1965 study by researchers at the Brooks Air Force Base in Texas showed that dogs exposed to near vacuumùone three-hundred-eightieth of atmospheric pressure at sea levelùfor up to 90 seconds always survived. During their exposure, they were unconscious and paralyzed. Gas expelled from their bowels and stomachs caused simultaneous defecation, projectile vomiting and urination. They suffered massive seizures. Their tongues were often coated in ice and the dogs swelled to resemble "an inflated goatskin bag," the authors wrote. But after slight repressurization the dogs shrank back down, began to breathe, and after 10 to 15 minutes at sea level pressure, they managed to walk, though it took a few more minutes for their apparent blindness to wear off.
Nerfing my own sig, it's too big - Shinnen
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
This porposal have good brans.
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ToxicFire
Phoenix Knights
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Posted - 2008.07.02 20:37:00 -
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should really quote from the movies, but the example from the movie event horizon is pritty close on to the truth
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Shinnen
Caldari
Northern Intelligence
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Posted - 2008.07.02 20:43:00 -
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:D event horizon was an awesome movie, the ship reminds me of a brutix tbh.
Nerfing my own sig, it's too big - Shinnen
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.02 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: ToxicFire
should really quote from the movies, but the example from the movie event horizon is pritty close on to the truth
Except for the freezing and bleeding all over the place thing, yeah... oh, wait, that was about "it", wasn't it ? 
If you want a semi-realistic movie example, pick the BSG episode where they save the two engineers via a "short jump through space" in one of the Raptors, but not even that was realistic enough.
Basically, you would get really badly swollen, and the only parts of your body that would actually be in danger of freezing would be those that are usually moist (mouth, eyes, etc).
Assuming you were smart enough to exhale and maybe slightly yawn, you won't get (much too badly) damaged lungs nor shattered eardrums, but you will most likely puke and also eliminate fluids from your other two orifices, and lose consciussness due to lack of oxygen and a mild case of the "bends" pretty soon (half a minute, a minute or so).
And if you survive, you won't be frozen nor burned nor anything like that all over the place, but rather bruised badly from the swelling and with very weak breath due to many collapsed vacuoles in the lung that got stuck shut.
Movie scenes are very, very poor indications of what would actually happen were you to be shot out into space.
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CryoHead
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Posted - 2008.07.02 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: Imperator Jora'h
And no, no one has tested this on a human but before PETA came around scientists put animals in vacuum chambers to see what would happen. Also that dude who did the highest sky dive ever lost pressure in one of his gloves and was high enough to be near a vacuum. His hand swelled but once he came back to earth things returned to normal.
NASA accident.
also ****s allegedly perfomed tests on individuals exposing them to vacuum. Could be true, then again a lot of things could be. Even if they never did anything like that it's still obligatory to mention it as a possiblity as per tradition.
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Fink Angel
Caldari
The Merry Men
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Posted - 2008.07.02 21:27:00 -
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I just got my old chap stuck in the vacuum. Not sure if that helps or not.
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Shinnen
Caldari
Northern Intelligence
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Posted - 2008.07.02 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: CryoHead
NASA accident.
As this article says at the bottom, the main problem will be since holding your breath is a problem. The fact that no new air is getting into your lungs means you'll pass out in around 15 seconds as oxygen can't get to the brain, but you wouldn't die from that until a few minutes later.
Nerfing my own sig, it's too big - Shinnen
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
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Bhaal
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.07.02 22:52:00 -
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Edited by: Bhaal on 02/07/2008 22:52:19
It's not just the vacuum, the -250/+250 temps might have something to do with it also...
Anyways, what does it matter? You die fast enough...
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Suze'Rain
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.02 23:00:00 -
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Originally by: Shinnen
As this article says at the bottom, the main problem will be since holding your breath is a problem. The fact that no new air is getting into your lungs means you'll pass out in around 15 seconds as oxygen can't get to the brain
erm.... you pass out after 15 seconds without air?
that one seems a bit odd to me, as there is generally plenty of residual oxygen in the bloodstream in each pass.
I'll not volunteer to test it, mind.
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jason hill
Caldari
Nightmare Holdings
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Posted - 2008.07.02 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: Fink Angel
I just got my old chap stuck in the vacuum. Not sure if that helps or not.
fink wins this thread :0)
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Sniper Wolf18
Gallente
Apocalypse Ponies
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Posted - 2008.07.02 23:30:00 -
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Originally by: Fink Angel
I just got my old chap stuck in the vacuum. Not sure if that helps or not.
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