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Ki An Gallente Filiolus Of Bellum	Posted - 2008.07.03 19:17:00 - [31] Originally by: Sol'Kanar "Honor" and "Respect" and "Pirate" are mutually exclusive. Honor among thieves? Ok, to an extent. Honor between pirate and victim? Hardly. Honoring ransoms? That makes you a tax collector, not a pirate. However you want to put it, honoring ransoms bring more meat on the table in the long run. Originally by: Sol'Kanar Do you really think a PIRATE is going to walk away from stealing everything in your current possession because you wired him some money too? Pfft! Obviously you wouldn't, but many will. You know, those guys who are smart enough to understand that dishonoring ransoms is bad for business. Filiolus of Bellum is recruiting
Matrix Skye Caldari	Posted - 2008.07.03 19:21:00 - [32] Originally by: Sol'Kanar "Honor" and "Respect" and "Pirate" are mutually exclusive. Honor among thieves? Ok, to an extent. Honor between pirate and victim? Hardly. Honoring ransoms? That makes you a tax collector, not a pirate. Do you really think a PIRATE is going to walk away from stealing everything in your current possession because you wired him some money too? Pfft! an then pirates wonder why people stopped paying ransoms . it only took me once to realize pirates are deceitful with their words. now if ccp could nerf dropped lootz a lil more .
Ambrosious Martin Son of Man	Posted - 2008.07.03 19:30:00 - [33] Originally by: Julien makka Originally by: HONORABLEWARRIORSWIFE He's not crying, he's just letting the community know about another noob corp that dishonor ransoms, although this is not the first thread about this specific corp This guy is obviously sad and a little angry. If he didnt care, he wouldnt have posted on the forums. also, how is that internet-honour working out for you, z0de? The mear fact that you seperate "your" internet based perception of honour and your physical corporal expression of such honour, just tells me that you truelly have no honour at all. This game is great for bringing out the truest depths of a mans inner conciouseness.
Sol'Kanar Minmatar NightCrew	Posted - 2008.07.03 19:31:00 - [34] Originally by: Ki An Obviously you wouldn't, but many will. You know, those guys who are smart enough to understand that dishonoring ransoms is bad for business. I like how you equate not honoring a ransom as a sign of intelligence (or lack thereof). Carebears come and go. But more importantly, there are always new ones coming in. Originally by: Ki An However you want to put it, honoring ransoms bring more meat on the table in the long run. No it doesn't. Ransoming a faction fit CNR for 300 mil, then killing it for 2 bil more brings more meat on the table in the long run. Please, there's no convincing me otherwise. Get off your soapbox, no one cares.
Sol'Kanar Minmatar NightCrew	Posted - 2008.07.03 19:35:00 - [35] Originally by: Ambrosious Martin The mear fact that you seperate "your" internet based perception of honour and your physical corporal expression of such honour, just tells me that you truelly have no honour at all. This game is great for bringing out the truest depths of a mans inner conciouseness. lmfao! !!!WARNING!!! INTERNET PSYCHOLOGISTS HAVE ARRIVED.
Ki An Gallente Filiolus Of Bellum	Posted - 2008.07.03 19:38:00 - [36] Originally by: Sol'Kanar I like how you equate not honoring a ransom as a sign of intelligence (or lack thereof). Carebears come and go. But more importantly, there are always new ones coming in. Well, I wouldn't go as far as calling you stupid. Merely misguided. Originally by: Sol'Kanar No it doesn't. Ransoming a faction fit CNR for 300 mil, then killing it for 2 bil more brings more meat on the table in the long run. Please, there's no convincing me otherwise. I have no illusions that you can be persuaded to give up your completely valid playstyle, but you would do well to think about this statement. Long term income != short term income. Ransoming a CNR and then killing him is an example of high short term income. Ransoming that CNR, then letting him go will make it a lot easier for you, and every other pirate, to get the next CNR to also pay a ransom. That way our long term income goes up. Dishonoring ransoms isn't the best way to make friends in the pirate community, but then again I doubt that's what you're after. Originally by: Sol'Kanar Get off your soapbox, no one cares. The air up here is fresh, so I'll stay for a while. There are people who care about this, and will take measures to make sure rouge pirates don't destroy the profitability of our profession. Filiolus of Bellum is recruiting
Mandi Mon NightCrew	Posted - 2008.07.03 19:41:00 - [37] If a carebear pays ransom in the woods and they still get pewpew'd and they but no one is around to hear it- does it make a sound?
Mandi Mon NightCrew	Posted - 2008.07.03 19:43:00 - [38] Originally by: Ambrosious Martin The mear fact that you seperate "your" internet based perception of honour and your physical corporal expression of such honour, just tells me that you truelly have no honour at all. This game is great for bringing out the truest depths of a mans inner conciouseness. GASP HE'S... SO... RIGHT... EVE IS A MIRROR TO OUR SOULLLLLLSSSSSSSSSSSS
Mandi Mon NightCrew	Posted - 2008.07.03 19:44:00 - [39] Originally by: Ki An Dishonoring ransoms isn't the best way to make friends in the pirate community, but then again I doubt that's what you're after. pirating pirates pirating pirating pirates zomg!
Sol'Kanar Minmatar NightCrew	Posted - 2008.07.03 19:48:00 - [40] QUOTE WARS! \o/ Originally by: Ki An Well, I wouldn't go as far as calling you stupid. Merely misguided. NO U. Originally by: Ki An I have no illusions that you can be persuaded to give up your completely valid playstyle ...WORDS ... Ransoming that CNR ...WORDS... long term income ...WORDS... make friends in the pirate community ... ... WORDS ... Originally by: Ki An The air up here is fresh, so I'll stay for a while. There are people who care about this, and will take measures to make sure rouge pirates don't destroy the profitability of our profession. While I am a fully gay pirate who has been known to WEAR ROUGE, I think you meant to say rogue. You say "rogue" and "pirate" like those are undesirable things? From your perspective, they are, because you're really not a pirate. You are a tax man. I am a pirate, and I do piratey things like being nasty, lowdown, dirty, and an all around NOT NICE PERSON. Are you seeing the difference here? You are not a pirate. Stop saying you are, and things will fall into place.
Ki An Gallente Filiolus Of Bellum	Posted - 2008.07.03 20:01:00 - [41] Originally by: Sol'Kanar While I am a fully gay pirate who has been known to WEAR ROUGE, I think you meant to say rogue. You say "rogue" and "pirate" like those are undesirable things? From your perspective, they are, because you're really not a pirate. You are a tax man. I am a pirate, and I do piratey things like being nasty, lowdown, dirty, and an all around NOT NICE PERSON. Are you seeing the difference here? You are not a pirate. Stop saying you are, and things will fall into place. True, I meant to say rogue. As for the rest of your post, you seem a bit uneased. Please, always remember that this is a game, and if you say you are a pirate in a game, who am I to argue. I'm just informing you that certain actions have a tendency of biting you in the ass further down the line. Fly safe. Filiolus of Bellum is recruiting
Mandi Mon NightCrew	Posted - 2008.07.03 20:01:00 - [42] Edited by: Mandi Mon on 03/07/2008 20:01:44 Hai. Ransom is money paid to free someone. In the real world of ransoming, terrists want ransom because the hostage (person) is worth nothing to them if destroyed. In eve, the hostage (ship), is worth something when destroyed. Blow that **** up, get the loot, get ransom if they're stupid enough to give it up.
Sol'Kanar Minmatar NightCrew	Posted - 2008.07.03 20:05:00 - [43] Originally by: Ki An True, I meant to say rogue. As for the rest of your post, you seem a bit uneased. Please, always remember that this is a game, and if you say you are a pirate in a game, who am I to argue. I'm just informing you that certain actions have a tendency of biting you in the ass further down the line. Fly safe. Don't you know that internet spaceships is SERIOUS BUSINESS. I declare myself winnar of this thread.
Mandi Mon NightCrew	Posted - 2008.07.03 20:09:00 - [44] Originally by: Ki An I'm just informing you that certain actions have a tendency of biting you in the ass further down the line. NOOO DON'T TELL MOMMY
Tai Paktu Ataraxia.	Posted - 2008.07.03 22:03:00 - [45] Edited by: Tai Paktu on 03/07/2008 22:05:15 Originally by: Mixed Signals 90% of the time a ransom is a "stupidity tax" basically its like putting a bounty on your own head. "I gives 300millz, dont kill navy raven plixplox" "ok transfer the money to me" "ok money transferred" "haha that was lulz, kill him brothers!" Your math intrigues me. Care to show how you arrived at this magical number of 90% with the rest of the class? Here's another stat for you. 90% of statistics are BS and made up while typing your post. If you pay ransom to a respectable, well-known pirate corp with a policy of honouring ransoms, I practically guarantee you will be let go so long as you're polite and timely with the ISK. If you aren't, mail the CEO. Doubt that'll work in this case but tough luck I suppose. Learn from the experience but don't let it put you off ransoms altogether. Apart from that, sorry you encountered a group that doesn't honour their ransoms though I suppose there's no hard and fast "piracy rule" that says we have to, it's a choice each pirate makes themselves or as a corp. ______ http://eve-files.com/sig/TaiPaktu/sig3.PNG
Matrix Skye Caldari	Posted - 2008.07.03 23:03:00 - [46] Edited by: Matrix Skye on 03/07/2008 23:03:45 Originally by: Tai Paktu Here's another stat for you. 90% of statistics are BS and made up while typing your post. that's only true 50% of the time I'm 75% certain on this... I think
Voodoo Mistross Ore Mongers Black Hand.	Posted - 2008.07.03 23:54:00 - [47] NOT honoring ransoms is BAD for business, a smart pirate knows this and you can't teach the stupid ones [
Vladimir Norkoff Income Redistribution Service	Posted - 2008.07.04 00:05:00 - [48] Originally by: Sol'Kanar From your perspective, they are, because you're really not a pirate. You are a tax man. I can assure you that he/she is NOT a taxman. Taxman VI: Voided Ledger
Artemis Rose Eleckrostatik	Posted - 2008.07.04 00:22:00 - [49] Some pirates honor ransoms, some don't. Big news there! Though I am jealous of the OP. I want Nighthawks and Drakes jumping me in my missions! I'll bring the EM damage __________________________________________________ Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine. WTB Purple Nerf Bat.
White Chasm Caldari Blood In Blood Out	Posted - 2008.07.04 01:26:00 - [50] Bleh, I hate hearing about dishonored ransoms. It's going to happen though, whether you like it or not. I honor my ransoms though, but what do you care. You are going to end up finding out the hard way or not at all, that I can or cannot be trusted. _________________ Flagrant E-Peen Stroking - Check Bragging over the littlest crap - Check Endless stream of self-contradicting smacktalk - Double Check
Ard UnjiiGo The Bastards	Posted - 2008.07.04 03:08:00 - [51] Edited by: Ard UnjiiGo on 04/07/2008 04:14:15 Originally by: Julien makka also, how is that internet-honour working out for you, z0de? z0de has no internet-honour. It's not about honour even if we use the term "honouring ransoms". It's about brains and playing this game like you're in it for the long haul. z0de has that in spades which is why he's a Bastard. Checked a post out on VETO's website recently where a guy being ransomed mistyped the ransom amount when transferring isk and overpaid by 100mil. VETO gave it back. Any of the nubbins in the past couple "pirate" fail threads want to call them out on that? How about some snide "internet-honour" comments for them? I won't. They're smart and know what they're about. Observe and learn. Disappointing to see the number of recent threads describing what some of these new "pirate" corps are about and how silly they sound when they try to rationalize it. I'd just repeat what some others have said: There are more than a few pirate corps that know what they are about and don't apply sophistry to the ransoming process. Not going to get too worked up about the "pirate" nubbins though. Corps like these won't typically last and quality pirate corps are noting who they are and won't likely have anything to do with their members when their corps crumble.
z0de Gallente The Bastards	Posted - 2008.07.04 04:35:00 - [52] What Ard said, would have said similar myself had I seen your comment before him. Honouring ransoms worked well for us, we get regular mission runners who know how to play and its become quiet the sport to catch them. It is a shame when they just block or logofski, it almost guarantees a ship loss and a podding. The squelching sound is nice though.
Kirex Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2008.07.04 05:04:00 - [53] Pathetic. It's impossible to convince them, they think they're xXx EXTREMEHARDCOREINTERNETSPACESHIPPIRATESxXx. Dear CCP, Please stop killing piracy off and implement a ransom feature similar to contracts so you can view the pirates ransom history and see if he honors ransoms.
techzer0 IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.07.04 06:17:00 - [54] Originally by: Sol'Kanar "Honor" and "Respect" and "Pirate" are mutually exclusive. Honor among thieves? Ok, to an extent. Honor between pirate and victim? Hardly. Honoring ransoms? That makes you a tax collector, not a pirate. Do you really think a PIRATE is going to walk away from stealing everything in your current possession because you wired him some money too? Pfft! You pirate in Nighthawks and Drakes... ...... Just sayin ------------ Originally by: CCP Mitnal It's great being a puppetmaster
FievelGoesPostal Gallente The Giant Squid Corp.	Posted - 2008.07.04 06:31:00 - [55] Edited by: FievelGoesPostal on 04/07/2008 06:31:06 Solution ... Just WD them and they will stay docked up or they will move to another region :) Also, keep an eye out for auto-piloting faction fit command ships
Nexus Kinnon Fusion Enterprises Ltd Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2008.07.04 08:47:00 - [56] I'M SUCH A MASSIVE BADASS INTERNET SPACESHIPS PIRATE I DON'T NEED TO HONOUR RANSOMS LOL IT'S JUST A GAME LOL LOL E-HONOUR LOL
H Lecter Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2008.07.04 09:08:00 - [57] Originally by: Sol'Kanar Originally by: H Lecter Apart from that hisec piracy is one of the lowest types of piracy as you mostly go against extremely unexperienced people - only dishonouring ransoms can beat that. I wasn't aware of any piracy hierarchy. Could you please send me a copy of your piracy handbook? I don't seem to have that chapter. Get the module 'Brain I', it's used to reflect what you're doing. By using this module you will maybe understand that you're shooting your own leg. Apart from that I recommend the module 'Balls I' this is used to enter nullsec where Concord does not protect your a**
Julien makka Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.07.04 09:15:00 - [58] Edited by: Julien makka on 04/07/2008 09:16:44 Rules? Hiearchy? Seems like theres a lot of would-like-to-be-pirate businessmen in here. You provide the service of not blowing them up when you can for a fee. Imo a proper pirate only takes. - They offer you a kill, YOU TAKE IT - They offer you isk, YOU TAKE IT Edit: I have no e-honour, but my wallet is nicely filled. Yarr.
Lakut EmpiresMod	Posted - 2008.07.04 09:55:00 - [59] Originally by: techzer0 Originally by: Sol'Kanar "Honor" and "Respect" and "Pirate" are mutually exclusive. Honor among thieves? Ok, to an extent. Honor between pirate and victim? Hardly. Honoring ransoms? That makes you a tax collector, not a pirate. Do you really think a PIRATE is going to walk away from stealing everything in your current possession because you wired him some money too? Pfft! You pirate in Nighthawks and Drakes... ...... Just sayin And not even HAM fits at that. ---------- You get a wonderful view from the point of no return.
Inertial The Python Cartel	Posted - 2008.07.04 11:42:00 - [60] Rofl. NightCrew seriously needs to learn how to relax. So far they have only made asses of themselves. we are recruiting!

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