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Mary Goodwill
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Posted - 2008.07.03 20:12:00 -
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I haven't done much trading so here i go.
I made a buy-order for a small ammount of ores. I checked the other buy-orders and set the price few isk higher than the other buy-orders. Then i waited...
I checked frequently how my order was going on and if i was getting some ore.. I noticed that someone had a buy-order for bigger ammount of that same ore but which had a lower price than me. That buy-order was getting ore faster than i was. What i'm missing here? I thought if i pay more then i'll get my ores first?
Thanks for clearing this for me :)
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Dosgar
Caldari
Rude Boys
Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.07.03 20:17:00 -
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They may have been buying from other systems, so even though your price was higher, you may only be able to sell to people in that station/system, where as the other person may be having their buy order filled from several jumps away.
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Mary Goodwill
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Posted - 2008.07.03 20:25:00 -
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Hmm. Good point. But i checked those other buy-orders and they have same "station" range as i do.
I noticed this because i was wondering why someone sold me 2 units of that ore. Same time i noticed that those other buy-orders are getting smaller too. Still looking for a answer.
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Letouk Mernel
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Posted - 2008.07.03 20:34:00 -
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The best price gets filled first, everyone else waits. They probably sold you the 2 units so they could see your name in the journal / log. If you want to fill your order in that system / at that station, you must modify your order so you have the best (highest buy) price.
If it's a sell order, you must ask for the lowest price.
If it's not behaving like it should, dunno.
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Baratus Damodred
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Posted - 2008.07.03 21:04:00 -
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Also I think some skills allow you to buy and sell at a higher range than just the station you are placing the order in. Marketing is for selling I belive... not sure what the buying one is.
If these do what I think they do anyway. :)
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Esmenet
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.07.03 21:47:00 -
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 Originally by: Mary Goodwill
Hmm. Good point. But i checked those other buy-orders and they have same "station" range as i do.
I noticed this because i was wondering why someone sold me 2 units of that ore. Same time i noticed that those other buy-orders are getting smaller too. Still looking for a answer.
Are they set in the same station as you? Same station range originating in different systems would then ofcourse cover different systems.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.07.04 01:39:00 -
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it could be due to the location and range of the buy orders,
If i set up a buy order in system A for 3000 isk per unit of megacyte and its a busy system it might (and most likely will) get filled faster than if i set up a buy order in system B (a empty system thats far away from good missions/trade hubs) for 3200 isk per unit.
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Mary Goodwill
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Posted - 2008.07.04 05:29:00 -
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Let me explain some more.
I made a buy-order for the ore in system A. I had highest buy-order, i checked that for sure. I was checking frequently how my order was getting filled. It didn't took long when someone sold me 2 units of ore.
At same time i noticed that there was much bigger buy-orders just below me. Player B had buy-order for 100 000 units for slightly lower price than me. Player C had 90 000 buy-order and slightly lower price than player B and me. All buy-orders were at the same system A and at the same station, and range was set to "station".
I was checking my order frequently. I did get few ores more but player B and player C did too. One time i checked that someone sold me 1000 ores and player B and C was getting much much more. That's why i was wondering what was going on because my buy-order had the highest price everytime i checked.
Well, it's too late now. My order is gone and i have the ores. But i'm still wondering what happened...
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Ordon Gundar
Caldari
Kingfisher Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.04 08:50:00 -
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It cant have happened the way you explained.
The people below you must have had a wider range.
If you are the higher buy order, then you will fill before anyone else in your system, who has an order with a range set to system.
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Posted - 2008.07.04 09:49:00 -
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higher as in cost that is
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Mary Goodwill
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Posted - 2008.07.04 12:08:00 -
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Originally by: Ordon Gundar
It cant have happened the way you explained.
The people below you must have had a wider range.
If you are the higher buy order, then you will fill before anyone else in your system, who has an order with a range set to system.
That's why i'm asking questions. I thought so too, this can't happen. I'm gonna make another buy-order today and i'm gonna see if i notice same weird thing again :)
I was wondering if there's some kind of "shared" selling if the prices are very close range? I mean i had price like (for example) 25.10 isk and the competitors had 25.09 isk and 25.08 isk. So i was really paying only 0.1 isk more than the other.
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Shanur
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.07.04 12:34:00 -
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I'd see about increasing the buy range of your buy order. That could be what distinguishes the other orders. Other than that i do not know. It is impossible to fulfill a cheaper buy order until the best offer withing buying range has been fully fulfilled. |
Chet Awesomelaser
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Posted - 2008.07.04 12:49:00 -
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And it also could be that they DON¦T want to sell to you !
It¦s a choise and maybee they know the other player(s) and want to continue to do business wih them instead of you...
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Mary Goodwill
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Posted - 2008.07.04 12:52:00 -
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Originally by: Chet Awesomelaser
And it also could be that they DON¦T want to sell to you !
It¦s a choise and maybee they know the other player(s) and want to continue to do business wih them instead of you...
I think that's not possible. The higher buy-order is filled first, no matter who you try to sell. I'm talking about the market here, not contracts.
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Mary Goodwill
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Posted - 2008.07.04 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: Shanur
I'd see about increasing the buy range of your buy order. That could be what distinguishes the other orders. Other than that i do not know. It is impossible to fulfill a cheaper buy order until the best offer withing buying range has been fully fulfilled.
Yes, i know what you mean but that's not the case. I know i can set range for my buy-order and get that order filled faster. I wanted my order to be filled in that station.
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Letouk Mernel
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Posted - 2008.07.04 17:10:00 -
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Sounds like you have to petition, at this point, because what you're describing shouldn't have happened, and all of the possible scenarios we can think of have been suggested and rejected.
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