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Jinx Barker GFB Scientific	Posted - 2008.07.04 06:57:00 - [1] As I am thinking of building about 20 of those with my invention alt - was wondering, what do people use Kronos for? Just a few lines - to help me gauge how often the bastards die... or if they are any good. Thanks in advance.
Grarr Dexx Amarr Naval Protection Corp Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.07.04 07:00:00 - [2] They are used for... mission running. The cost of the ship is way too absurd to use it for anything else, especially when you know their weaknesses (instant target due to cost, weak sensor strength).
Boz Well	Posted - 2008.07.04 07:02:00 - [3] I use mine for mining. The tractor bonus is nice for dragging my jetcan around between asteroids.
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2008.07.04 07:54:00 - [4] Originally by: Grarr Dexx They are used for... mission running. The cost of the ship is way too absurd to use it for anything else, especially when you know their weaknesses (instant target due to cost, weak sensor strength). As it is incapable of changing damage, it is sub par to the Dominix if you aren't fighting Serpentis or Guristas (should work against Gallente and Caldari navy too).
Mother Drone Gallente	Posted - 2008.07.04 08:14:00 - [5] And Mercenaries/EoMs. But the damage output is not that good. Paladin deals far more damage, Golem can choose the damage type. To outdamage a pimped Dominix you have to pimp your Kronos too. But it is a perfect loot ship! m÷p and m÷p
Imaos	Posted - 2008.07.04 08:15:00 - [6] Originally by: Venkul Mul Originally by: Grarr Dexx They are used for... mission running. The cost of the ship is way too absurd to use it for anything else, especially when you know their weaknesses (instant target due to cost, weak sensor strength). As it is incapable of changing damage, it is sub par to the Dominix if you aren't fighting Serpentis or Guristas (should work against Gallente and Caldari navy too). The dominix doesn't change damage types as much as you think. The only different damage type you go with is explosive vs angels. (And in ultra rare cases emp drones if the gates are far out and the mobs circle in 40-50km orbits so the traveltime to the next gate eats any sentry advantage and therm drones are just slow moving between the npcs.) So unless you are in for lots of angels the damage types of the kronos aren't bad, they are the damages type you want to have. Also '8' bonussed guns+some drones is more damage than the damage the usual dominix fields. If you are looting yourself it is even better as you can now do it while killing. It is kind of 2 ships in one for missioning. Imaos ------------------------------------------ Originally by: NoNah My friend, this is EVE, as it's a space oriented game, they couldn't have trolls. We have Caldari.
Rijasy	Posted - 2008.07.04 09:46:00 - [7] I use mine for missioning, and in that regard, has served me well. :)
ArmyOfMe hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.07.04 09:57:00 - [8] mostly used for missions but ive seen a few been used for pvp as well. and no, they dont die(at least not those used in pve)
Doc Extropy Gallente Kinda'Shujaa	Posted - 2008.07.04 10:49:00 - [9] Edited by: Doc Extropy on 04/07/2008 10:50:29 Have to check on Sisi... I'm not sure if it would help me much with speeding up missionrunning (I have a habit of doing them in a Megathron / Oneiros - combo for speed reasons)... EFT tells me I can have a salvager and tractor beam in addition to 4x 425mm II rails with 100% bonus and a Large Remote Armor Repairer II, but lets see... 700 MISK is A LOT of money (more than a set of +5 implants and that would be a priority for my mission running clone) and I'm not sure how fast I can recoup this money because of a higher mission running density (the Oneiros of my alt is already doing salvaging / looting on the fly because two LRAR IIs are enough with a 4 - 5 slot tank on my Megathron). Usually I don't salvage / loot that much longer than it takes to finish a stage... in some missions, yes, but usually I don't loot (for example) smaller wrecks because it takes ages to salvage frigs as well and they don't drop that much. Exception are Angels missions because of the Tritanium Bars which are so expensive. Hm... have to try and do some calculations. If the Kronos were about 400 MISK it would be a no - brainer. I can make that money in a few days doing missions (especially when I get 60 MISK implants for the storyline missions :D ). --- Skill queue now! Nerf skillpoint loss and half done skills! WE ARE PAYING CUSTOMERS AND DESERVE MAXIMUM COMFORT!
chinnychinchin	Posted - 2008.07.04 10:57:00 - [10] Edited by: chinnychinchin on 04/07/2008 10:57:08 [Kronos, New Setup 1] Warp Core Stabilizer I Warp Core Stabilizer I Co-Processor II Core X-Type Large Armor Repairer Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 25 Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II 100MN Afterburner II Miner II Miner II Miner II Miner II Small Tractor Beam I Small Tractor Beam I Small Tractor Beam I [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Harvester Mining Drone x5

Gamov Ministry of War	Posted - 2008.07.04 11:02:00 - [11] Originally by: chinnychinchin Edited by: chinnychinchin on 04/07/2008 10:57:08 [Kronos, New Setup 1] Warp Core Stabilizer I Warp Core Stabilizer I Co-Processor II Core X-Type Large Armor Repairer Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 25 Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II 100MN Afterburner II Miner II Miner II Miner II Miner II Small Tractor Beam I Small Tractor Beam I Small Tractor Beam I [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Harvester Mining Drone x5 ahahahahahahahaha
Zo5o Gallente Longcat is Long	Posted - 2008.07.04 11:34:00 - [12] Kronos is an upgrade over Dominix for mission running against everything except Amarr/Bloods/Sanshas. It even outperforms Domi against Angels.
Qui Shon	Posted - 2008.07.04 11:46:00 - [13] Originally by: Zo5o Kronos is an upgrade over Dominix for mission running against everything except Amarr/Bloods/Sanshas. It even outperforms Domi against Angels. A gankdomi then....but WITH a tank
Zo5o Gallente Longcat is Long	Posted - 2008.07.04 11:50:00 - [14] Originally by: Qui Shon Originally by: Zo5o Kronos is an upgrade over Dominix for mission running against everything except Amarr/Bloods/Sanshas. It even outperforms Domi against Angels. A gankdomi then....but WITH a tank You're saying Kronos = gankdomi with a tank (against kin/therm-weak rats)? That's a pretty good comparison I'd say. Its dps numbers are similar to a gankdomi while still managing to fit a tank (1 lar, 3 hardeners, 3 magstabs, nano pump rig works like a charm).
Glassback Body Count Inc. The Requiem	Posted - 2008.07.04 12:50:00 - [15] Looking at in station and going "I've got a Kronos!" Occasionally undocking and looking at from below. LinkedIn
Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa The Perfect Harvesting Experience	Posted - 2008.07.04 13:20:00 - [16] Looting a lvl 4 mission before I bring in my Interdictor with salvagers. ----------------------------------------------- Originally by: Paper Rock's fine, nerf Scissors
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2008.07.04 19:48:00 - [17] Originally by: Imaos Originally by: Venkul Mul Originally by: Grarr Dexx They are used for... mission running. The cost of the ship is way too absurd to use it for anything else, especially when you know their weaknesses (instant target due to cost, weak sensor strength). As it is incapable of changing damage, it is sub par to the Dominix if you aren't fighting Serpentis or Guristas (should work against Gallente and Caldari navy too). The dominix doesn't change damage types as much as you think. The only different damage type you go with is explosive vs angels. (And in ultra rare cases emp drones if the gates are far out and the mobs circle in 40-50km orbits so the traveltime to the next gate eats any sentry advantage and therm drones are just slow moving between the npcs.) So unless you are in for lots of angels the damage types of the kronos aren't bad, they are the damages type you want to have. Also '8' bonussed guns+some drones is more damage than the damage the usual dominix fields. If you are looting yourself it is even better as you can now do it while killing. It is kind of 2 ships in one for missioning. Imaos As I get tons of missions against angels from my Gallente agent the Dominix is way better for me. I use minmatar and Amarr T2 drones pretty often. The only model I use rarely are the Caldari.
Zaran Darkstar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.07.04 21:05:00 - [18] I use it to mine and carry stuff around. LOWS 7x Cargohold expander II MEDS 1 ABII 1 LSBII, 2 Invulnerabilities HIGHS 4 miner II, 3 Tractor Beams RIGS 2 cargohold optimisation can carry 9235m3 mining drones and medium drones
The Djego Minmatar merovinger inc	Posted - 2008.07.04 21:51:00 - [19] Originally by: Zo5o Originally by: Qui Shon Originally by: Zo5o Kronos is an upgrade over Dominix for mission running against everything except Amarr/Bloods/Sanshas. It even outperforms Domi against Angels. A gankdomi then....but WITH a tank You're saying Kronos = gankdomi with a tank (against kin/therm-weak rats)? That's a pretty good comparison I'd say. Its dps numbers are similar to a gankdomi while still managing to fit a tank (1 lar, 3 hardeners, 3 magstabs, nano pump rig works like a charm). This. Im a Kronos Pilote myself, didn¦t used the Domi since the day I buyed a Kronos. It not only does Missions faster than the Domi it also Speeds up Looting/Salvaging a lot(i mostly Salvage after the Mission with a riggted Salvage Mega). For example I done Blockade vs Angels in about 40-45 Minutes (only to kill everything) with the Domi. Now I not only killed all the NPCs but salvaged/looted everything in the same time. ---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank! Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
Contralto Gallente Federal Jump Clone Services	Posted - 2008.07.05 07:57:00 - [20] Originally by: The Djego Im a Kronos Pilote myself, didn¦t used the Domi since the day I buyed a Kronos. It not only does Missions faster than the Domi it also Speeds up Looting/Salvaging a lot(i mostly Salvage after the Mission with a riggted Salvage Mega). For example I done Blockade vs Angels in about 40-45 Minutes (only to kill everything) with the Domi. Now I not only killed all the NPCs but salvaged/looted everything in the same time. Got to agree, with full hybrid skills the kronos is an amazing mission runner. I have used a 425mm Rail/drone Domi for the past 2 years and have 7 mill SP's in drones, I have never used it since getting the kronos. It tanks much better and out-damages it. I use a medium repper (never had to perma run it) and no cap assist mods apart from a couple of CCC rigs, so I can fit 3 magstabs plus 2 tracking comps in mid (optimum range scripts) and a Webber, (99% web with the bonus) As others have said the 1275m3 cargo and tractor bonus make mission running a lot faster if you loot. can tractor most rooms from one point.

Chi Prime Body Count Inc. The Requiem	Posted - 2008.07.05 11:28:00 - [21] Originally by: Glassback Looking at in station and going "I've got a Kronos!" Occasionally undocking and looking at from below. Ha ha! That is so true. -
Mother Drone Gallente	Posted - 2008.07.05 12:01:00 - [22] Originally by: Contralto Got to agree, with full hybrid skills the kronos is an amazing mission runner. I have used a 425mm Rail/drone Domi for the past 2 years and have 7 mill SP's in drones, I have never used it since getting the kronos. It tanks much better and out-damages it. I use a medium repper (never had to perma run it) and no cap assist mods apart from a couple of CCC rigs, so I can fit 3 magstabs plus 2 tracking comps in mid (optimum range scripts) and a Webber, (99% web with the bonus) As others have said the 1275m3 cargo and tractor bonus make mission running a lot faster if you loot. can tractor most rooms from one point.[/quote So your MAR fitted (no need to perma run it) Kronos tanks better than a Dominix. I guess that was in missions where you almost didn't need any tank at all. Did you already have perfect gunnery skills while flying the dominix? 7m SPs in Drones are nice - but that's only 1 weapon system for this ship. A hint so far for maximum speed (if you loot/salvage): Gankdomi + loot/salvage Kronos = Kronos + loot/salvage Kronos > Gankdomi/Kronos + any loot/salvage ship (except Marauders). Generell differences between these ships: Kronos can have a better tank; Dominix is more versatile. m÷p and m÷p
Fuazzole	Posted - 2008.07.05 13:20:00 - [23] same thing happens with all Kronos threads, some one hyjacks it with "domi is better"
Zo5o Gallente Longcat is Long	Posted - 2008.07.05 13:37:00 - [24] Also, I've said it before and I'll say it again: The blaster Kronos is simply unparalleled on Damsel in Distress, both in terms of efficiency and fun. You'd be hard pressed to find a more fun mission running experience than blaster Kronos on this mission.
000Hunter000 Gallente Missiles 'R' Us	Posted - 2008.07.05 14:15:00 - [25] Marauders could do with a lil boost... I tried the Golem but i quickly returned to my NH for missions. _______________________________________________________ CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!!
kahless stovokor	Posted - 2008.07.05 15:20:00 - [26] I have been toying with the idea of putting 1 ccc II and 1 trimark armor II rigs on the Kronos. I have hybrid lev 5 and R.G. spec lev 4,and also use all racial t2 drones.(all racial drone spec to lev 4). What is the consensus on this ?
Bloody Rabbit Jita Miners	Posted - 2008.07.05 15:29:00 - [27] I use the Kronos for salvaging. Local and Covert cloaking Idea
Zo5o Gallente Longcat is Long	Posted - 2008.07.05 15:31:00 - [28] Edited by: Zo5o on 05/07/2008 15:48:51 Quote: I have been toying with the idea of putting 1 ccc II and 1 trimark armor II rigs on the Kronos. I wouldn't use either of those rigs. As for the CCC rig, Kronos should really be run with a cap injector unless you run in a laggy system, in which case move lol. The cargo hold is so huge, you'll never run out of boosters. This frees up midslots for tracking comp/web/ab/sensorbooster/etc., loslots for magstabs, and rig slots for more useful things. As for the trimark armor pump... you shouldn't need the HP buffer, as the Kronos tanks just fine. An auxiliary nano pump would serve you much better by increasing your repair amount, thereby increasing the amount of incoming DPS you can tank without needing an HP buffer in the first place. For the other rig slot, I'd use either a hybrid optimal range rig, hybrid tracking rig, or hybrid rate of fire rig (t2 ROF rig actually stacks rather favorably with magstabs because it's a 20% boost, immediately occupying the unstacked #1 slot in the dps calculations). This is my Kronos setup for l4's: - 4x 425 rails (or neutrons for Damsel) - 3x whatever (I blitz more often than I salvage, so I often have one or two drone links here for my sentry drones, which add considerable dps to my rails. Sometimes I also like to sic my sentries on a cruiser and let them kill it by themselves while I'm killing other ships with my guns, killing two birds with one stone so to speak. Tractors and salvagers are also obvious uses for these slots, and I'll always use at least 1 tractor on missions where I need to loot something to complete the mission) - Web (you'll realize the value of this when you pop your first spider drone ii's with your 425 rails, heh) - Tracking comp - Afterburner or another tracking comp or a sensor booster (Sensor booster with scan res script is particularly useful here on wave-based missions such as Gone Beserk where you spend a lot of time locking enemies. It takes about a minute or two off my Gone Beserk completion time, which is currently just under 10 minutes solo. Targeting range script is handy against Serpentis dampening. Afterburner is obviously necessary for missions with 70km gate trips.) - Cap injector (medium with AB, heavy without) w/800's (Even medium can permarun this setup as long as you have boosters) - LAR - 2-3 hardeners - 3-4 magstabs (or 3 magstabs and tracking enhancer on some missions) - Auxiliary Nano Pump II - Hybrid Locus Coordinator II (the optimal range one; instapopping cruisers at 70km with antimatter is really great fun) - 3x Sentry drones - 5x Medium drones Works like a charm. I rarely use more than 4 cap booster per mission. Most of the time I don't use any, and I only have to pulse my lar a few times per mission, because what's dead can't kill me. =D


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