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Xailz
Amarr
Thunder Talons
HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.07.10 01:30:00 -
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WoW...
Sup...
Xz
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Bunyip
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.07.10 07:28:00 -
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I agree, Marcus. Some of the ideas posted have been good, but more could be added, which I plan to address on my website.
If you follow the QEN, over 50% of the playerbase have no interest in PvP, and yet they get the most content additions. The last major addition for the PvE side was the LOLqual, which 95% of owners don't even use for mining (it makes a far better jump freighter). Invention was a good change, as well as the Exhumers, but that's about it.
There are also some items which would appeal to both sides, such as the Ship-Based Habitats listed on my webpage. In short though, please add some more detail to the PvE side of things CCP.
-Bunyip
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Vreena
Yurai-Tenshin Zaibatsu
Celestial Imperative
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Posted - 2008.07.10 07:42:00 -
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Adding more types of game play can't hurt, IMO. More ways to play the game, means more ways to have fun.
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MenanceWhite
Amarr
Red Light Navy
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Posted - 2008.07.10 11:59:00 -
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You already have enough attention. Don't believe me? Well okay, let remove that you get flagged from looting cans, concord buffs, 25% hp buffs and see how it feels then.
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 Originally by: Torfi
There's alot. That can be done. With.. corpses
Originally by: Oveur
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Astria Tiphareth
Caldari
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.10 12:38:00 -
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Edited by: Astria Tiphareth on 10/07/2008 12:46:57
Edited by: Astria Tiphareth on 10/07/2008 12:42:26
I agree with the trend that Marcus notes; I disagree with the black & white nature posted. I follow the story, do missions, build stuff, but I also PvP, as my current corp, the Amarr militia, shows. Pirating is just one aspect of the game, though it does seem to attract more than its fair share of jerks.
That said, I think it's about time the PvE and industrial side got the same level of attention. We have a vibrant dynamic economy with CCP even hiring an economist to keep track of it all, an entire manufacturing system that means one cannot help but build ships and modules simply in order to PvP, and yet the purely PvP crowd have the audacity to claim that their chosen profession should take priority and looks down their nose at those who produce the ships they fight with.
I've always wondered what would happen if every person with industrial skills in the game went on strike...
Edit: funnily enough this 0.0 issue thread is almost entirely about industrial issues as well, so the cry can hardly be levelled as though we're all high-sec newbies wanting our cake and to eat it.
Originally by: MenanceWhite
You already have enough attention. Don't believe me? Well okay, let remove that you get flagged from looting cans, concord buffs, 25% hp buffs and see how it feels then.
This statement is just dumb and I'm not normally that blunt in my posts. Capital ships, DDs, Titans, an increasing number of T2 ships aimed at PvP, numerous balances and changes all aimed at PvP, the introduction of an entire new militia system aimed at PvP, are we seeing a trend here? Then again the tone and topic of your post puts you squarely in Marcus' camp of griefers, so I'd not expect you to actually consider the entire game rather than your own personal sphere.
Don't get me wrong, as I said, I enjoy PvP, but lets not kid ourselves that the other aspects of the game have had fair treatment.
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Lailake
Emperor's Technology and Research.
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:26:00 -
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Adam raises an interesting point.
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Farrqua
Minmatar
Turbo Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.11 00:09:00 -
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I would like to see a grander introduction of game play for the eve populous. Some thing for everyone. What a lot on players see is a lot of attention to the PvP side, changes and fixes. Yes they get attention but the majority of the time it is not the favorable kind. Pvp'rs have had the biggest change in there game play than any other in the game. Players are forced to change skill paths and so on just to keep up with the "Balancing". A lot of the "goodies" PvPrs get are either broken, worthless or incomplete. And once they are accepted they end getting nerfed. It is the cycle of things for a Pvp'r. Its a pretty turbulent ride.
Industrialist/Mission runners..Oh hell CareBears. In my past life PvP was very important focus. And now trying the Bear side of the woods. Its kind of...well, like eating newspaper. Its pretty bland and very repetitive. There are some challenges and yes the rewards can be great, but..its just another plain cardboard box. One thing I do appreciate is that the stuff we do get are pretty much stable. There is very little change to upset the cart, but there is very little change to improve the taste of newspaper too.
The Bear side needs something and so does the PvP aspect. I think if we can get away from focusing on one side or another we can find our selves a grander idea, one that Noah at CCP is looking for. Something that gives color and a little spice.
Marcus came up with some ideas that can work on a ground floor base. The ideas he initially presented can be used by all. That is where we need to go. Or at least start.
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doctorstupid2
The Accursed
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Posted - 2008.07.11 04:55:00 -
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It's amazing you can actually type something like this and still manage to dress yourself in the morning.
This must be from a random bullshit generator, no way can this be real.
Abusive | Deadspace2 | Deadspace |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.07.11 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Piitaq
Another example is the giant secure container, its not giant at all, because it holds only one cycle of ore. So its more or less useless for mining.
I could go on, but I wont...
there are people that believe they don't need manufacturing  and the last time i saw something that said stuff about the industrial side getting stuff it was well received.
you jettisoned the ore, aka you threw it away, deal with the consequences.
ratting + reprocess > mining = ****ed up w00t, you had one valid point.
Move ore from cargo to giant can, hauler then moves ore from container to its cargo. you are in a corp.. you guys don't do mining ops together or anything?
please do go on.
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Look TotheLight
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Posted - 2008.07.11 14:17:00 -
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It is the nature of fallen man to steal, kill and destroy, make desolate even down to their own selves and their own societies.
But, there is hope, that leads to faith, and love is constructive, protective and victorious. It does not destroy those which embrace by it, nor does it scorn those which hate it.
EVE, a type of the womb. The very purpose of wombs is to conceive, produce, shelter and give birth to life.
Destruction vs. Construction.
I agree. Unite.
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Farrqua
Minmatar
Turbo Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.11 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: doctorstupid2
It's amazing you can actually type something like this and still manage to dress yourself in the morning.
This must be from a random bullshit generator, no way can this be real.
I concede to you obvious intellect and rapier type wit. You obviously have a much grander design. Please show us the way.
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