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Kham Katcha
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Posted - 2008.07.08 01:29:00 -
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hi - i'm new to research and i can see that Duvolle have some great L4 R&D agents that currently aren't available to me - how can i increase my standing with their R&D division? is it the same for that as with all other standings, in that i just need to run combat missions for them?
thanks all!
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.08 01:43:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 08/07/2008 01:46:31
Yes, it's (almost) the same as with regular standings.
Just run missions. Any missions, not necessarily combat.
Heck, combat missions given out by R&D corp agents give you a pretty lousy standings increase (and pathetic ISK/LP rewards too) most of the time - you might be better off (time-wise) running couriers.
You might also want to find a storyline agent of that corp and run missions for any other agent in that faction in that station, system or even a nearby system.
Storyline missions not only give out faction standings, but also a pretty hefty corp standing with the storyline agent's corp - I've seen L4 storylines that bumped up my corp standings by as much as 24% IIRC, and 14% or higher increases from L3 storylines are possible too - that's the equivalent of a LOT of regular missions, especially since they can be triggered by ANY 16 missions (including hauling)... you would never get anywhere close to that from 16 hauling missions together.
However, if you have a high enough FACTION standing, you only need to get 2 points less than that with the R&D corp - the faction standings take care of the higher requirement.
For instance, you have Sitaleere Beene (L4 Q16), who needs 6.80 or better standings.
That can be either 6.80 Duvolle Labs standing (and just over -2.00 effective Gallente standing), or it can be 4.80 Duvolle Labs effective standing on top of 6.80 Gallente Federation standing.
As for storyline agents, according to eve-agents (haven't checked ingame so they might have been moved), it appears Duvolle labs has some in Grispire (Placid 0.2) and Carirgnottin (Everyshore 0.6).
If you run missions there or nearby, you can eventualy activate those storyline agents, so you might want to speed-run L2/L3 combat missions for any Gallente corps around instead of crawling through regular missions for Duvolle.
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xiansheng
Nomad LLP
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Posted - 2008.07.08 01:58:00 -
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Edited by: xiansheng on 08/07/2008 01:58:43
I never ran missions for the R and D agents themselves for the purpose of standing increase, for that you want to run missions for any regular agent from the same corporation. It should also be noted that to use an R and D agent you require a set personal standing as well as a set player corporation standing if in a player corporation. So if you find your personal standings high enough and still can't work the R and D agents, get your corp involved.
*edited for typos
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Kham Katcha
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Posted - 2008.07.08 02:02:00 -
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wow, thank you!
so - how can i work out the standings needed to access any given L4 agent?
thanks again!
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xiansheng
Nomad LLP
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Posted - 2008.07.08 02:09:00 -
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Im going to use the Lai Dai corporation in this example to describe it to you, feel free to substitute the corp name for the corp of your choosing. Fly to any system with a Lai Dai base, show info on the base or dock to show info on the corporation Lai Dai itself. click the agents tab, open R and D agents folder. Go to the R and D agent of your choosing and again show info. In the attributes tab at the bottom are the standing requirements to work said agent UNLESS you have already achieved the neccessary level to work the agent at which time it will read something like "Offers missions to all pilots with appropriate standings." or some such nonsense LOL
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Kham Katcha
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Posted - 2008.07.08 02:21:00 -
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brilliant, thanks for all this info!
one last question for clarification - while i'm running reserach missions for an agent, does that also serve to up my standing?
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Kham Katcha
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Posted - 2008.07.08 02:25:00 -
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one last question - if it proves difficult to get my corp standing up, can i quit and join a newb corp to get the standings to raise? if they do, and i rejoin my old corp, will they drop again?
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Mal Lokrano
Gallente
Faulcon de Lazy
Atrox Urbanis Respublique Abundatia
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Posted - 2008.07.08 03:06:00 -
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Edited by: Mal Lokrano on 08/07/2008 03:10:23
I didn't see these covered before so bear with me if it has...
I am not sure if it effects R&D agents but you could get access to better agents from other divisions of the same corp by using the connections skill. In order to get better standings increases you could train social to a high level like 4 or so and that will also help get your standings up to use the R&D agents.
What do you mean by newb corp, you would have to create your own should you want to do that, newb corps have nothing to do with standings as they are not player run. only player run corps matter for the corporation standings.
You personal standings remain the same no matter what corp your in, the corp standings are determined by an average of all the members in that corp, excluding ones that have no standings at all with that corp.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.08 03:08:00 -
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 Originally by: Kham Katcha
one last question - if it proves difficult to get my corp standing up, can i quit and join a newb corp to get the standings to raise? if they do, and i rejoin my old corp, will they drop again?
You are confusing something here.
Your player corp standings are 100% irrelevant.
It's YOUR PERSONAL standing with the NPC corp/faction that matter.
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Kham Katcha
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Posted - 2008.07.08 03:19:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Kham Katcha
one last question - if it proves difficult to get my corp standing up, can i quit and join a newb corp to get the standings to raise? if they do, and i rejoin my old corp, will they drop again?
You are confusing something here.
Your player corp standings are 100% irrelevant.
It's YOUR PERSONAL standing with the NPC corp/faction that matter.
thank you, i evidently HAD misunderstood - i thought i read in your post that it was a mix of personal & corp standing, i'm evidently wrong - so i JUST need to get my personal standing up with the agent, and i don't have to worry about my corp standing?
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.08 03:39:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 08/07/2008 03:40:14
It's your personal standing with the R&D corp (Duvolle Labs) and your personal standing with the faction (Gallente Federation) that matter.
P.S. As I see I did specifically state in the example found in my first post.
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Dreadchain
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2008.07.08 11:35:00 -
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Edited by: Dreadchain on 08/07/2008 11:35:38
Bleh, nevermind, hadn't refreshed this page since last night 
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Vertex Eisenstein
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.07.08 17:54:00 -
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Personally I find it quicker to grind standing by running courier missions. Run a dozen or so (I forget the true number) and you get a storyline, do that and get a huge standings boost. Rinse and repeat.
Most couriers have cargos small enough to fit in a frigate and only send you a couple of jumps (sometimes within the same system). The downsides are that you need to have the skills to complete the storyline if it throws you a combat mission (or friends to help), and that it is fairly soul destroying to grind them.
Still, I found it quicker than combat missions.
Remember that you will need to train the relevant science skills for each research type you want to use and to allow the use of multiple agents.
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Kham Katcha
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Posted - 2008.07.11 07:43:00 -
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Edited by: Kham Katcha on 11/07/2008 07:43:24
Originally by: Akita T
Edited by: Akita T on 08/07/2008 03:40:14
It's your personal standing with the R&D corp (Duvolle Labs) and your personal standing with the faction (Gallente Federation) that matter.
P.S. As I see I did specifically state in the example found in my first post.
ok, i'm still a little confused - i have been diligently running missions and gotten my personal standing with the agent i'm using up to 5.7, but when i look at the standings required for higher level R&D agents (level 3) it says: "You need a minimum effective corp stading of at least 1.50, in addition to an effective faction, corp or personal standing of at least 3.50"
i had thought that running missions would/should increase my corp standing but i checked both my corporation > politics > standings > liked by screen, this NPC corp (Duvolle) aren't mentioned at all - and when i check that Corp's tab, the relationship is specified as 0.0
what do i need to do to get my corp's standing up with this NPC corp, as several evenings of grinding missions doesn't seem to have done anything, except for my personal standing.
i mentioned this once before, but would it help if i quit my player corp and rejoined one of the newb, NPC corps? not sure this is relevant, but I'm Gallente and my corp has 1.10 with Gallente
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Spork Thalamus
Minmatar
Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2008.07.11 13:17:00 -
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It is rather confusing, but you do not have to worry about your own corp's standing to Duvolle.
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"You need a minimum effective corp standing of at least 1.50, in addition to an effective faction, corp or personal standing of at least 3.50"
Corp standing in the above quote refers to your standing with Duvolle corp. Once you hit 3.5 you should be all set (although you might have to relog once before the agent will recognize the new standing and speak with you). You can check your standing with the corp via the relationship tab in the Duvolle corp info and it should increase after every mission.
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Kham Katcha
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Posted - 2008.07.11 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: Spork Thalamus
It is rather confusing, but you do not have to worry about your own corp's standing to Duvolle.
Quote:
"You need a minimum effective corp standing of at least 1.50, in addition to an effective faction, corp or personal standing of at least 3.50"
Corp standing in the above quote refers to your standing with Duvolle corp. Once you hit 3.5 you should be all set (although you might have to relog once before the agent will recognize the new standing and speak with you). You can check your standing with the corp via the relationship tab in the Duvolle corp info and it should increase after every mission.
thank you so, so much - the verbage IS definitely a little confusing - sorry to have kept asking the same question over adn over!
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Dawn Steele
Gallente
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.07.12 01:27:00 -
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I had this link laying around, i think it would be useful for getting what you want. Guide To Mechanical Engineering
Cheers,
Dawn Steele
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Kham Katcha
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Posted - 2008.07.12 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Dawn Steele
I had this link laying around, i think it would be useful for getting what you want. Guide To Mechanical Engineering
Cheers,
Dawn Steele
that is an absolutely awesome guide, thank you - now, if i could just afford to buy those tags :P
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