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Madrosynth Synthesis Deep Salvage	Posted - 2008.07.10 04:55:00 - [1] When a slave is "freed", they are often dumped unceremoniously in some far-flung station to live in squalor and destitution. Others are herded into something that the tribals call "re-education", little more than bare-faced brainwashing in truth. When I was freed, I was dumped in a Gulfonodi mining station. When my new corporate masters discovered my pod training, I was given opportunities that many were not. I have since moved out of Molden Heath and into Derelik, but I have not forgotten the faces of those I had to leave behind. Last week, an associate of mine in Teonusude approached me with a proposition. He has found a small but significant number of "freed" slaves that wish nothing more than to return to a life a purposeful servitude. These people are hungry and frightened, every day one of their friends is dragged away to some re-education camp or loaded into a transport for relocation. I feel a moral obligation to help them. Some have expressed a desire to come and work for me and I have found gratifying work for most within my corporation. The others I have set up with suitable temporary accommodations while I search for a slave owner who is willing to help these people return to the lives they were removed from without consent. I am actively seeking a gentleman or lady that would be willing to receive these people into service. I can deliver them easily to Derelik, and would be willing to discuss dropping them off at some other neutral location if need be. I ask for no compensation, only the knowledge that these people will be given a chance to re-enter the service that they were snatched out of. Since I took on this first group, other requests have begun to trickle in from all over Molden Heath. I may have so set up a new division within My Corporation so I can begin to do this in earnest. [SDEEP]
Garion Avarr Amarr Zero Zero Traders YTMND.	Posted - 2008.07.10 05:17:00 - [2] I will inquire with my family, to see if they have any interest. Both slaves and free employees are treated fairly and well. If they do not, I might suggest Lord Veron Daerth, a man of compassion who has some experience in this matter. If any simply wish to return to a culture in which they are comfortable in, but are interested in seeing what it is like to live as a freeman, I can assist in setting them up with businesses in the Mandate, I have done this before for a Matari slave I freed. I would suggest, however, that any legal issues be looked into -- if they were freed illegally in a raid my Minmatar terrorists, their former masters, if they still live, my try to reacquire them, and may try to punish them for having been freed, even though it was no fault of their own. Some masters, unfortunately, really are as cruel as the Minmatar say (but thankfully, this is only a small majority). ________________________________ This is not a signature.
Madrosynth Synthesis Deep Salvage	Posted - 2008.07.10 05:43:00 - [3] Originally by: Garion Avarr I would suggest, however, that any legal issues be looked into -- if they were freed illegally in a raid my Minmatar terrorists, their former masters, if they still live, my try to reacquire them Yes, this is something I'd thought about. I certainly don't want to break any laws or deprive anyone of property that is, by rights, theirs. Perhaps someone might point me in the right direction here? [SDEEP]
Shern Minmatar Ammatar Free Corps	Posted - 2008.07.10 06:31:00 - [4] I think there may be a record of slave ownership someplace. Are any of the slaves tagged, or got any ownership tattoos ? I think the records in Derelik are sorta in disarray following the new Rebellion, but there might be a data copy on Amarr.
Silver Night Caldari Naqam	Posted - 2008.07.10 06:47:00 - [5] We here at Naqam would be happy to give them a home. As Stain and Esoteria are far, far outside the jurisdiction of the Empires, legal issues would luckily not arise. -------------- The Clown Man. GLS Mr. State Caldari Patriot. Sansha's Nation Supporter
Scagga Laebetrovo Ammatar Free Corps	Posted - 2008.07.10 08:30:00 - [6] Originally by: Shern I think there may be a record of slave ownership someplace. Are any of the slaves tagged, or got any ownership tattoos ? I think the records in Derelik are sorta in disarray following the new Rebellion, but there might be a data copy on Amarr. We can do better than that, Shern. Mr Madrosynth, I have perfect employment cut out for those slaves on the frontlines! Dedicated crews can be so hard to come by these days. San Matari Official forums
Arran Ramir	Posted - 2008.07.10 11:04:00 - [7] Doh, so there they all went... I try too be a nice slaver, but as soon i am nice too them, they tend too end up all over the universe and i can start running all over the place picking them up, liberating soo called Anti-slavers of their overflowing hangars of liberated slaves, living in Gutter and filth with no long term opportunities as beeing hauled all over the places as unwanted guests.. And you call us Amarr Cruel... At least i have since and cozy slavepens, and i put them too work each day, making themself usefull for the Amarr Empire, and not having them pollute the station and hangars of our pilots.. If their of no-use anymore, airlocks are your best freind...
Kaede Yuunai Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.07.10 11:29:00 - [8] Originally by: Arran Ramir Doh, so there they all went... I try too be a nice slaver, but as soon i am nice too them, they tend too end up all over the universe and i can start running all over the place picking them up, liberating soo called Anti-slavers of their overflowing hangars of liberated slaves, living in Gutter and filth with no long term opportunities as beeing hauled all over the places as unwanted guests.. And you call us Amarr Cruel... At least i have since and cozy slavepens, and i put them too work each day, making themself usefull for the Amarr Empire, and not having them pollute the station and hangars of our pilots.. If their of no-use anymore, airlocks are your best freind... <A transmission start, the face of Kaede Yuunai appears on screen, wearing her usual eye-bandage, but cloth in a slightly diffrent leather overall. She don't appear to be too happy> Discusting. You are a prime example of why the average Matari hate your kind soo much. This entire discussion reeks of poorly made propaganda, if you ask me. <She takes a moment to think of her next line> Mr. Madrosynth, I'm sorry to hear about your troubles when freed, but I can testify you are not among the majority of freed slaves when it comes to treatment after liberation. To be honest, it seems to me that you might try and paint a very bad image of a problem that could use some better attention, but is no-where near as bad as you seem to think. <She streatch out a hand and cuts the feed>
Maalan Caldari Selinir	Posted - 2008.07.10 12:11:00 - [9] Selinir is always in need of new employees and we also have a program to try to help freed slaves learn to live on their own instead of being dependent on others. We also have corporate housing for the freed slaves who are unable to learn to live independently. --- You think you are a pirate? You should see how much I made selling you that ship you just went and got blown up... ((Until CCP admits what I look like please pretend my face looks normal))
Khan Volji	Posted - 2008.07.10 14:13:00 - [10] Originally by: Garion Avarr If they do not, I might suggest Lord Veron Daerth, a man of compassion who has some experience in this matter. While I cannot speak for him I have had the pleasure of conversation with Veron Daerth and have found his desire to better the lives of his slaves markedly different than the persistant stories told of other Empire slavery camps. Perhaps his counsel, or counsel from others like him, would assit you in reintergrating these Minmatar to a slave society in a legal and humane fashon. No need to put these people through more than they already have been through.
Garion Avarr Amarr Zero Zero Traders YTMND.	Posted - 2008.07.10 14:52:00 - [11] Edited by: Garion Avarr on 10/07/2008 14:55:53 Originally by: Madrosynth Originally by: Garion Avarr I would suggest, however, that any legal issues be looked into -- if they were freed illegally in a raid my Minmatar terrorists, their former masters, if they still live, my try to reacquire them Yes, this is something I'd thought about. I certainly don't want to break any laws or deprive anyone of property that is, by rights, theirs. Perhaps someone might point me in the right direction here? I will make inquires with old friends. I used to serve as a lawyer in the Amarrian military. Also, I would entreat you not to have anything to do with the Sansha, and certainly not to deliver any former slaves into their dubious care. If it is complained that the slaves of the Amarr lack any choice in their fate, then how much worse are the Sansha, whose slaves do not have choice in anything at all, having been entirely stripped of free will? ________________________________ This is not a signature.
Garion Avarr Amarr Zero Zero Traders YTMND.	Posted - 2008.07.10 15:09:00 - [12] Originally by: Kaede Yuunai Mr. Madrosynth, I'm sorry to hear about your troubles when freed, but I can testify you are not among the majority of freed slaves when it comes to treatment after liberation. To be honest, it seems to me that you might try and paint a very bad image of a problem that could use some better attention, but is no-where near as bad as you seem to think. In regards to slaves being freed that do not want to be freed, perhaps it is so that it is not so bad, but as for the general condition of freed slaves in the Republic, the reports I have read suggest that you are being slightly naive. I do not doubt the Republic's good intentions towards them . . . only their resources to carry out their good intentions (and, in some cases, lack of good intentions among hired help or employers who offer to employ newly freed slaves). Perhaps it is overstated some -- but not, I think, as overstated as supposed Amarrian cruelty to slaves. Which does happen, far more than I would like to admit, but not anywhere near as much as most Minmatar would have one think. But I suppose that is the real problem in the relations between our people, lack of understanding, and, among certain vocal factions on both sides, a desire for us to not understand each other. ________________________________ This is not a signature.
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2008.07.10 16:05:00 - [13] I run a boarding house in Derelik myself. Our doors are open to those seeking freedom for whatever reason. We set up shop after the disarray of the breakout of war and have given a home to many of those who found themselves lost after the norms of the universe were turned on their heads. _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
Nicoletta Mithra Amarr Aretaic Turn	Posted - 2008.07.10 17:30:00 - [14] Captain Madrosynth Depending how big a "small but significant number" is, I would be willing to take those freed men and women into my care or at lest some of them. While my estates aren't that capacious, I am able to accomodate a certain number of people quite well, but I hope you'll understand that my capacities have their bounds as I'm just a humble commoner and not a lady of noble blood. I won't lie to you. Life on my estates isn't easy, especially since the debris started to pollute them. But it is still a good, if somewhat simple life that I can offer to those people. So if you think that a life on my estates might be the right thing for some or all of these people, I'd urge you to contact me and best visit me on Mekhios, so that we can talk about the details. Yours faithfully N. Mithra
3ll3 Gallente Tranquillity Nation	Posted - 2008.07.10 18:38:00 - [15] Edited by: 3ll3 on 10/07/2008 18:45:09 Please contact a member of the Electus Matari, they and my self specilize in the Housing and after freedom support that slave despratly require after being returned home to their native race. SOme thing I fear thos in your care have not receved when they where freed. I my self have done as much with up to 40 to 60 thousend inderviduals while elctus Matari numbers in the hundreads of thousends of inderviduals they have helped and continue to help. On some occasions I have found some who can not survive being free having been slaves for so long or born into slavery for those I my self offer work and traing facility's that pays them for their duties while allowing them to work as they once did. For example I have hired out thousends of buttlers servant and othe profesion's simmilar to what they used to do but protected by contracts and paid a wage for their efforts.
Madrosynth Synthesis Deep Salvage	Posted - 2008.07.10 22:17:00 - [16] Originally by: 3ll3 Edited by: 3ll3 on 10/07/2008 18:47:46 Please contact a member of the Electus Matari, they and my self specilize in the Housing and after freedom support that slave despratly require after being returned home to their native race. SOme thing I fear thos in your care have not receved when they where freed. I my self have done as much with up to 40 to 60 thousend inderviduals while elctus Matari numbers in the hundreads of thousends of inderviduals they have helped and continue to help. On some occasions I have found some who can not survive being free having been slaves for so long or born into slavery for those I my self offer work and traing facility's that pays them for their duties while allowing them to work as they once did. For example I have hired out thousends of buttlers servant and othe profesion's simmilar to what they used to do but protected by contracts and paid a wage for their efforts. And regular check up to make sure their rights as free inderviduals are being respected and observed, any break the law by miss treating those in their employ are reported to the athorities and those mistreeted are removed and cared for. These people have expressed a desire to return to a life of purposeful servitude - I hardly think I'd be doing them any favors by forwarding them to the likes of Electus Matari. After all, it may have been one of your member corporations who snatched them away from their lives and families in the first place. No, rest assured these people will be delivered into the hands of someone who can see to their particular needs. I only hope that I can help them along the path to rebuilding what was taken from them. I met personally with another small group today in Teonusude. It seems that there is a lot of work for me to do in Molden Heath. [SDEEP]
Bad Harlequin Minmatar The Harlequinade	Posted - 2008.07.10 22:28:00 - [17] Originally by: Madrosynth These people have expressed a desire to return to a life of purposeful servitude Got any way to prove that? Or has their not yet slitting your throat in your sleep served as their "expression?" ----- -- we all live in a yellow subroutine --
Madrosynth Synthesis Deep Salvage	Posted - 2008.07.10 23:23:00 - [18] Originally by: Bad Harlequin Originally by: Madrosynth These people have expressed a desire to return to a life of purposeful servitude Got any way to prove that? Or has their not yet slitting your throat in your sleep served as their "expression?" What proof would you like? Perhaps I could arrange a tour of workers quarters in Gulfonodi? Would you like to see the hovels and speak with the hungry and lost in person? Perhaps you and I might spend the night among them and see who's throat ends up cut? [SDEEP]
Veron Daerth Amarr Blood Meridian	Posted - 2008.07.10 23:27:00 - [19] Pilot Madrosynth, I would be honored to accept the charge to care for these individuals, both with good housing, proper medical care, and purposeful labor. Several things I would like to ask, however. Are there entire family units (if so, please do NOT break them up, as this is very bad for the long term health and good mentality of them), have they had any kind of medical screening (plague, toxins, etc), and do any of them require any special treatment, such as dosages of Vitoc. If the last is true, how recent was their last dosage, all that sort of information is crucial. Please, Pilot, if you are interested, rest assured that I will do all in my power to assist you in this endeavor. If so, contact me privately when and as you can. If I am not available, am meditating, or am in planetary transit, please leave me a message and I will contact you when it is convenient for us both. It is a terrible thing that you have described, and indeed, is a situation I am familiar with. God grace you all with his light and comfort.
Nachshon Caldari 17th Minmatar Tactical Wing	Posted - 2008.07.11 01:47:00 - [20] I would normally not suggest you put these slaves back into slavery. However, if that is their wish - I don't deny that a minority of slaves do prefer a live of slavery, frequently out of piety - then I won't stop them. And these slaves seem to have been exposed to freedom. In that case, I recommend Veron Daerth, as one of the handful of Amarrian slaveholders I would trust. He treats his people well, and - most importantly - does not deny them the right to move on if they so choose. In fact, I would hesitate to classify him as a slaveholder. ____________________________________ Caldari by birth, Minmatar by citizenship. The True Meaning of Freedom My v
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2008.07.11 02:05:00 - [21] Edited by: Archbishop on 11/07/2008 02:05:21 I would be happy to accept custody of these unfortunate slaves who were stolen from a life of purpose and taken to the "freedom" of despair we so often see in these cases. If you would like to contact me via evemail or PM I can arrange pickup via SPCS transport and promise to treat these slaves with all the humanity I provide my current stock. Likewise they will have opportunity for enlightenment and if they strive for the truth someday they may even become Ammatar. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE ARCHBISHOP PORTAL
Tomahawk Bliss Minmatar The Aegis Militia Aegis Militia	Posted - 2008.07.11 04:30:00 - [22] If you can't place them with a proper Lord such as Archbishop they should be Reclaimed into God's hands. Space them.
BloodBird Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.07.11 15:46:00 - [23] Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss If you can't place them with a proper Lord such as Archbishop they should be Reclaimed into God's hands. Space them. Worthless scum. Sig source
Esna Pitoojee Amarr Heavily Utilized Mechanic Mayhem	Posted - 2008.07.11 19:12:00 - [24] If, for whatever reason, a home cannot be found for these poor souls, I am also willing to accept them. I mostly operate whithin 3 jumps of Tash-Murkon Prime, so buisness and traffic are high and respectable work can always be found. Should you have any worries about the treatment of those under my protection, I would be happy to allow you or a your chosen representative to tour the offices and quarters I have given them, and/or talk to some of my workers in person.
Khan Volji	Posted - 2008.07.11 23:31:00 - [25] All this outpouring of help reminds me of a story... I was a new capsuleer in my third voyage and was in Aunia space transporting a small group of refugees to a Federal Navy Station. Out of curiosity I put my frigate on autopilot and went to speak with the refugees to hear their story. Being that I did not have much exposure to other races I was intrigued by how different they would be from me. The leader of the group, a crass older man named Galoris Rayborn, spit at me as soon as I moved into the passenger section of my craft. Puzzled, I asked him why. "Flamer capsule riders like you wreck this universe. You greedy space flys buzz around honest folk and swindle them however you can. If the lot of you deployed yourself into the nearest star the Federation would be a better place!" His words troubled me and I have remembered them as a lesson to never be naive around those I am unfamiliar with. This conversation now reminds me of Galoris Rayborn. While an angry old man, I soon discovered he was correct about many capsuleers. There are some here who have volunteered who I am certain want these slaves to abuse them further and profit off their existance by any means necessary. But then I see so many others who seem to be trustworthy. These men and women, all from different corners of our universe, give me some hope that Galoris Rayborn was wrong. I hope to show a few examples to the old bastard when we next meet. Someone please give me a story or two of bad capsuleers gone good.
BloodBird Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.07.11 23:40:00 - [26] Originally by: Khan Volji All this outpouring of help reminds me of a story... I was a new capsuleer in my third voyage and was in Aunia space transporting a small group of refugees to a Federal Navy Station. Out of curiosity I put my frigate on autopilot and went to speak with the refugees to hear their story. Being that I did not have much exposure to other races I was intrigued by how different they would be from me. The leader of the group, a crass older man named Galoris Rayborn, spit at me as soon as I moved into the passenger section of my craft. Puzzled, I asked him why. "Flamer capsule riders like you wreck this universe. You greedy space flys buzz around honest folk and swindle them however you can. If the lot of you deployed yourself into the nearest star the Federation would be a better place!" His words troubled me and I have remembered them as a lesson to never be naive around those I am unfamiliar with. This conversation now reminds me of Galoris Rayborn. While an angry old man, I soon discovered he was correct about many capsuleers. There are some here who have volunteered who I am certain want these slaves to abuse them further and profit off their existance by any means necessary. But then I see so many others who seem to be trustworthy. These men and women, all from different corners of our universe, give me some hope that Galoris Rayborn was wrong. I hope to show a few examples to the old bastard when we next meet. Someone please give me a story or two of bad capsuleers gone good. (OOC: Cute story, but keep in mind capsuleers can NOT leave their capsules during flight. We can only leave them once docked, as we 'board' a ship by having the pod inserted/removed by a lifting device especially made for the job. Only when the pod is placed on the Station's deck can it be opened to allow the Capsuleer out, or back in.) Sig source
Silver Night Caldari Naqam	Posted - 2008.07.11 23:53:00 - [27] Edited by: Silver Night on 11/07/2008 23:56:54 The Nation has use for those who are willing to do hard work. Of course, they would not be slaves anymore. They would be free to practice religion as they see fit, and there is always plenty of work to do. Originally by: BloodBird (OOC: Cute story, but keep in mind capsuleers can NOT leave their capsules during flight. We can only leave them once docked, as we 'board' a ship by having the pod inserted/removed by a lifting device especially made for the job. Only when the pod is placed on the Station's deck can it be opened to allow the Capsuleer out, or back in.) ((You're wrong, pod can be modified so you can leave it during flight. Not that you would want to in most cases, but it is possible. Also, even if he is slightly wrong, there is really no need to be so nitpicky. Finally, even if you think he is wrong, you can mail him IG. There is, after all, no need to embarass someone in front of others for their error)) -------------- The Clown Man. GLS Mr. State Caldari Patriot. Sansha's Nation Supporter
Garion Avarr Amarr Zero Zero Traders YTMND.	Posted - 2008.07.12 02:56:00 - [28] Originally by: Khan Volji I hope to show a few examples to the old bastard when we next meet. Someone please give me a story or two of bad capsuleers gone good. He is dead now, but research a man named Kendar Zek. ((There is some conflict in PF about if it is or not possible to leave your pod in flight (or even in the ship at all, even when docked). My reading is that standard pods and pod-equiped ships don't allow it, but it can be modified)) ________________________________ This is not a signature.
Inara Subaka Caldari the united	Posted - 2008.07.14 21:09:00 - [29] I am always looking for new hands. As long as they aren't worthless and can serve some purpose in my ranks I would gladly accept any that are still looking for a place to live after those that have already made offers to give them refuge. I do ask for a list of their skills, unique talents (I'm currently looking for a good chef, my recent Vherokior chef has sadly passed away and I fear I will never be able to replace him), and race to allow me to better judge the numbers which I can handle. I can offer references to the treatment of my slaves, and guarantee their wellbeing is of my utmost concern once they enter my ownership. The station in which I currently reside holds my clone, and I trust their medical facilities explicitly for the treatment of those who answer to me. Contact me in game, I currently reside in Sing Laison region of Gallente space and due to my disagreements with some officials within Concord I will be unable to travel to hi security space to retrieve them and would require your services in providing them safe travel to me. I understand their desire to stay in servitude, a good master provides them with everything they need; food, shelter, a reasonable amount of personal time, etc... While living on their own can become stressful, living paycheck to paycheck, never knowing if they might get fired or evicted for circumstances outside of their control.
AsheRaven Minmatar The Stormcrow Milita	Posted - 2008.07.15 00:05:00 - [30] My people can either make good cizitens out of them or.... well we'd be happy to take them out of your hands and offer them the freedoms and privlidges of any freemman in this Galaxy ---------------------------------

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