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The TX Gallente Earth Inc.	Posted - 2008.07.10 13:02:00 - [1] My main has Wing Command level 4, my alt has Leadership level 4. With my main as Squad leader and my alt as Squad member - boosts are all working lovely lovely. With my main as Wing Leader and my alt as a Squad leader, it don't work. is that because I'm missing a squad MEMBER too? or is something broken? plz2hlpkthnxbye. -------------------- [Signature] [/Signature]
Tamia Clant New Dawn Corp New Eden Research	Posted - 2008.07.10 13:06:00 - [2] Do both have the green boosting icon? Also, remember that the bonuses only work for pilots below you on the chain of command. Looking for queue-free research slots? Click here!
Garia666 Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E White Core	Posted - 2008.07.10 13:09:00 - [3] you have to have leader ship lvl 5 before you can use it as a squad leader www.garia.net
The TX Gallente Earth Inc.	Posted - 2008.07.10 13:09:00 - [4] Originally by: Tamia Clant Do both have the green boosting icon? Also, remember that the bonuses only work for pilots below you on the chain of command. The Squad leader is below the Wing Leader, and should get the boost, no? -------------------- [Signature] [/Signature]
The Wounded Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2008.07.10 13:10:00 - [5] Originally by: The TX My main has Wing Command level 4, my alt has Leadership level 4. With my main as Squad leader and my alt as Squad member - boosts are all working lovely lovely. With my main as Wing Leader and my alt as a Squad leader, it don't work. is that because I'm missing a squad MEMBER too? or is something broken? plz2hlpkthnxbye. u NEED a squadmember else you wont get any bonus
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.07.10 13:10:00 - [6] squad leaders don't get boosts from wing leaders squad and wing leaders don't get boosts from fleet leaders only squad members do get them all commanders only get their own bonuses _ *The mineral/moonstuff balance \|\| THE* nanofix**
The TX Gallente Earth Inc.	Posted - 2008.07.10 13:11:00 - [7] Originally by: Garia666 you have to have leader ship lvl 5 before you can use it as a squad leader Really? That's not what the description of the Leadership skill says: "Allows command of a squadron. Increases maximum squadron size by 2 members per skill level, up to a maximum of 10 members." If that's not true, then I'll sue CCP 100m ISK for trade descriptions.... -------------------- [Signature] [/Signature]
Garia666 Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E White Core	Posted - 2008.07.10 13:12:00 - [8] Originally by: The TX Originally by: Garia666 you have to have leader ship lvl 5 before you can use it as a squad leader Really? That's not what the description of the Leadership skill says: "Allows command of a squadron. Increases maximum squadron size by 2 members per skill level, up to a maximum of 10 members." If that's not true, then I'll sue CCP 100m ISK for trade descriptions.... You are able to make a squad in afleet with a couple of members but to be able to use the boost you will need lvl 5 www.garia.net
Admai Sket	Posted - 2008.07.10 13:13:00 - [9] Edited by: Admai Sket on 10/07/2008 13:12:48 (SORRY, posted with Alt) Originally by: Akita T squad leaders don't get boosts from wing leaders squad and wing leaders don't get boosts from fleet leaders only squad members do get them all commanders only get their own bonuses Thanks for that too. That sucks though, eh? So no-one in the chain of command gets any bonuses except the people at the bottom of the chain, the squad members? Although each leader in the chain of command gets their OWN bonuses? -------------------- [Signature] [/Signature] Hah! Now even if I post with this alt, you still know it's me! MWUAHAHAHA
Tamia Clant New Dawn Corp New Eden Research	Posted - 2008.07.10 13:14:00 - [10] Originally by: Garia666 You are able to make a squad in afleet with a couple of members but to be able to use the boost you will need lvl 5 That is a lie. If you have Leadership 1 and only 2 members in the squadron (including squad leader) then the boosts will be applied as normal. Looking for queue-free research slots? Click here!
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.07.10 13:14:00 - [11] Originally by: Admai Sket That sucks though, eh? So no-one in the chain of command gets any bonuses except the people at the bottom of the chain, the squad members? Although each leader in the chain of command gets their OWN bonuses? It used to be that way, doubt they changed it recently. Bug turned feature _ *The mineral/moonstuff balance \|\| THE* nanofix**
Solid Trust Minmatar 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.07.10 13:17:00 - [12] Originally by: Akita T squad leaders don't get boosts from wing leaders squad and wing leaders don't get boosts from fleet leaders only squad members do get them all commanders only get their own bonuses My understanding was that squad members got the highest bonus of the Fleet/Wing/Squad commander. So you are saying it is possible for a squad member to get a 30% bonus in speed/armor/shields/targeting?
Tamia Clant New Dawn Corp New Eden Research	Posted - 2008.07.10 13:18:00 - [13] Originally by: Solid Trust Originally by: Akita T squad leaders don't get boosts from wing leaders squad and wing leaders don't get boosts from fleet leaders only squad members do get them all commanders only get their own bonuses My understanding was that squad members got the highest bonus of the Fleet/Wing/Squad commander. So you are saying it is possible for a squad member to get a 30% bonus in speed/armor/shields/targeting? No, they still get the highest only. Looking for queue-free research slots? Click here!
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.07.10 13:19:00 - [14] Originally by: Solid Trust My understanding was that squad members got the highest bonus of the Fleet/Wing/Squad commander. So you are saying it is possible for a squad member to get a 30% bonus in speed/armor/shields/targeting? No, fleet bonuses don't stack at all - only highest is considered. But each of the commanders could be using a different mindlink - then you get the highest of all three, not just one. _ *The mineral/moonstuff balance \|\| THE* nanofix**
Korizan Oort Cloud Industries Ultionis Quietus	Posted - 2008.07.10 13:23:00 - [15] Edited by: Korizan on 10/07/2008 13:24:03 Originally by: Admai Sket Edited by: Admai Sket on 10/07/2008 13:12:48 (SORRY, posted with Alt) Originally by: Akita T squad leaders don't get boosts from wing leaders squad and wing leaders don't get boosts from fleet leaders only squad members do get them all commanders only get their own bonuses Thanks for that too. That sucks though, eh? So no-one in the chain of command gets any bonuses except the people at the bottom of the chain, the squad members? Although each leader in the chain of command gets their OWN bonuses? Yes and no Fleet Commanders gets only his bonuses. Wing commanders gets the bonuses from Fleet Commander and himself. Squad commander get bonuses from fleet, wing and himself Squad members get bonuses from everyone. Keep in mind you must be in the chain. So if different bonuses are given by different squad commanders then only there squad members get them. The bonuses do not work laterally, only down. Bonuses do NOT STACK only the highest bonuses apply. You MUST be in a ship. If you lose your ship the bonuses you were giving are canceled and the chain is broken according to where you where in it.
The TX Gallente Earth Inc.	Posted - 2008.07.10 13:29:00 - [16] Originally by: Korizan Edited by: Korizan on 10/07/2008 13:24:03 Originally by: Admai Sket Edited by: Admai Sket on 10/07/2008 13:12:48 (SORRY, posted with Alt) Originally by: Akita T squad leaders don't get boosts from wing leaders squad and wing leaders don't get boosts from fleet leaders only squad members do get them all commanders only get their own bonuses Thanks for that too. That sucks though, eh? So no-one in the chain of command gets any bonuses except the people at the bottom of the chain, the squad members? Although each leader in the chain of command gets their OWN bonuses? Yes and no Fleet Commanders gets only his bonuses. Wing commanders gets the bonuses from Fleet Commander and himself. Squad commander get bonuses from fleet, wing and himself Squad members get bonuses from everyone. Keep in mind you must be in the chain. So if different bonuses are given by different squad commanders then only there squad members get them. The bonuses do not work laterally, only down. Bonuses do NOT STACK only the highest bonuses apply. You MUST be in a ship. If you lose your ship the bonuses you were giving are canceled and the chain is broken according to where you where in it. THAT is a much better definition. Thanks. So the solution to my original problem is just that I had no squad members, which is why my Wing leader didn't give the bonuses to the Squad leader? -------------------- [Signature] [/Signature]
Korizan Oort Cloud Industries Ultionis Quietus	Posted - 2008.07.10 13:32:00 - [17] Correct
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.07.10 13:32:00 - [18] Edited by: Akita T on 10/07/2008 13:33:09 Originally by: Korizan Wing commanders gets the bonuses from Fleet Commander and himself. Squad commander get bonuses from fleet, wing and himself WHEN exactly did this change (EDIT: or, I should probably say, BUGFIX) happen ? What patch/hotfix ? _ *The mineral/moonstuff balance \|\| THE* nanofix**
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.07.10 13:36:00 - [19] Originally by: The TX THAT is a much better definition. Thanks. So the solution to my original problem is just that I had no squad members, which is why my Wing leader didn't give the bonuses to the Squad leader? Yes, and so the other solution is to instead of using WC, put your other character in Squad Command and then make the other guy a member. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Garia666 Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E White Core	Posted - 2008.07.10 13:38:00 - [20] http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=397 http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=430589 here the official posts.. it could be to do with your lvl skill and the amount of people in your squad www.garia.net
The TX Gallente Earth Inc.	Posted - 2008.07.10 13:40:00 - [21] Originally by: An Anarchyyt Originally by: The TX THAT is a much better definition. Thanks. So the solution to my original problem is just that I had no squad members, which is why my Wing leader didn't give the bonuses to the Squad leader? Yes, and so the other solution is to instead of using WC, put your other character in Squad Command and then make the other guy a member. Yeah, I just haven't had a Wing Commander before and wanted to try it out. Seems I'll have to find a friend to be a Squad member..... -------------------- [Signature] [/Signature]
SiJira	Posted - 2008.08.17 15:57:00 - [22] it works charismatically well Trashed sig, Shark was here

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