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Kinkie Yuuki
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Posted - 2008.07.10 22:28:00 -
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Edited by: Kinkie Yuuki on 10/07/2008 22:33:52
[Thorax, New Setup 1]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Lead Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Lead Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Lead Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Lead Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Lead Charge S
Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster I
Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster I
Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster I
Warrior II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
2.1 on tracking, 105 dps at 21 KM optimal. 30k effective hps, the rigs are cheap(about 3m).
I was finally able to test this the other day when I heard of a frigate group coming into tama when it was nearly empty of WT's. I took on 8 frigates and 2 interceptors, killing 2 frigates and got a crow into structure.
They didn't realize I was buffered up so much until it was too late. :)
Does anyone know a better gallente cruiser/BC for the job? Medium Blasters can get up to 15km optimal with more dps and way better tracking, but no PG left for buffer. Medium rails are way too slow tracking.
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Barsexual
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Posted - 2008.07.10 22:48:00 -
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you killed 2 frigates and you call this a killing machine?
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Eternity INC.
Project Alice.
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Posted - 2008.07.10 22:50:00 -
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try 200mm railguns, better optimal alot more damage and good tracking.
also leaves enough pg for a proper tank.
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Vayi Mory
Minmatar
venator vestigium
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Posted - 2008.07.10 22:51:00 -
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Vexor? drones? sounds better to me to kill frigs. maybe some rails to on there. and some warrior II for those pesky fast ones?
but that's from my limited knowledge of gall ships so far only used the mega and rax.
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Lithalnas
Amarr
Headcrabs
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Posted - 2008.07.10 22:58:00 -
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myrmadon with a bay full of warrior IIs would be a good anti frigate boat.
so is a drake with light fofs
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Kinkie Yuuki
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:02:00 -
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 Originally by: Barsexual
you killed 2 frigates and you call this a killing machine?
One test that was successful. It's good enough to track crows orbiting , would be ok to use in a gang I think.
200mm rails don't allow a single 1600mm plate to be fitted and the tracking with same fit is only .08 so its not going to track teh frigates good enough.
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Gypsio III
Bambooule
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:06:00 -
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Try dropping a Tracking Computer for a painter - run it through the tracking formula, it may well help your tracking.
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Prometheus Exenthal
Dirty Deeds Corp.
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:22:00 -
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Get a destroyer, Harpy, or Enyo.
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Derek Sigres
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:27:00 -
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Originally by: Gypsio III
Try dropping a Tracking Computer for a painter - run it through the tracking formula, it may well help your tracking.
I agree, painting a MWD bloated frigate may indeed yield a better result than a tracking computer.
Regarding the Drake with light FOF's, I don't like to besmirch the Drake but this certainly isn't its forte. Even with precision lights and a full set of rigs you won't so much as scratch an interceptor but you WILL trash the average frigate in short order. Personally I like the Cerberus better for the task (The drake can get better explosion velocity thanks to the extra slot but the Cerb actually puts out more damage in this case)
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Yiv
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Posted - 2008.07.11 13:00:00 -
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Buy a flycatcher or sabre. They are death for frigates.
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The Djego
Minmatar
merovinger inc
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Posted - 2008.07.11 13:10:00 -
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Destroyer with a 400mm Plate, mutch more effective, or a Enyo/Droneship with T2 Warriors.
Pro Tip: Navy Exequeror, Nano it like a big Taranis, eats Frigs like a fat kid eats cake. 
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Gimpb
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Posted - 2008.07.11 13:29:00 -
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It probably works pretty well, but you might find a destroyer, AF, or even something like a stabber to be more effective.
Destroyers are dirt cheap, alpha hard, and have cruiser range with frig tracking. They don't have near the tank of a buffered thorax of course but they can be quick and agile enough to make killing them difficult in smaller skirmishes.
The reason I throw the stabber in there is because its speed allows it to run down frigates and also probably affords it more survivability than all the buffer tanking on that thorax. You might actually do decently with a light active tank, MWD, and an OD or something on the thorax if you're just focussing on killing frigs. The light active tank plus speed would be hard for frigs to deal with.
Also remember that tracking is somewhat less important if you're about as fast as your target because it becomes difficult for them to get a high transversal on you. If you're much slower than your target then you'll need more tracking.
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Crellion
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.07.11 13:31:00 -
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I find it hillarious that all the alternatives that people give him with so much pomp would have invariably died in the situation described in the OP...
You guys rox big time :D
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Arana Tellen
Gallente
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.07.11 13:34:00 -
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Edited by: Arana Tellen on 11/07/2008 13:34:40
Thrasher.
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Oh noes!
Originally by: CCP Greyscale
*moderated - mother abuse - Mitnal*
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Hatchetharry
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Posted - 2008.07.11 13:38:00 -
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Sensor boosted artie thrasher = insta pop
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Transmaniacon
Minmatar
Strike-Force-Alpha
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Posted - 2008.07.11 13:41:00 -
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Smart-bombing Nano-Phoon =P
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Earthan
Gallente
GREY COUNCIL
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Posted - 2008.07.11 13:57:00 -
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Actually most of you guys trying to look sooo smart doesnt know what you are talking about.
You know where you would be with your destroyers and afs against 8 frigs 2 inties?
right in pod.
Kinkie you got a very good setup out there imho, hard to get much better.
Maybe brutix/myrmidon for more tank , but you would lock much slower + much more exp...
or ofc eagle /deimos, but its ashame to use those ships without medium guns, and you prolly wouldnt track good with medium as you wrote.
If you got tons of isk you could try a eagle with blasters .Eagle got resistance bonus wich makes it hard nut to crack and optimal range bonus wich should help for balsters alot.Never tried it tough against frigs , just an idea...
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Earthan
Gallente
GREY COUNCIL
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Posted - 2008.07.11 13:58:00 -
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Originally by: Crellion
I find it hillarious that all the alternatives that people give him with so much pomp would have invariably died in the situation described in the OP...
You guys rox big time :D
exactly:)
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Killing Eve bullies all over the galaxy
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.07.11 14:06:00 -
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150mm railgun myrm with warrior IIs, and a larger buffertank 
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Opertone
Caldari
SIEGE.
The Border Patrol
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Posted - 2008.07.11 15:18:00 -
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i tested this, zealot (ammar hac), harbinger (ammar BC) can track down crows with very high tranversal... much more survivability than a destroyer offers
the best destroyers are thrasher (30 km lock), cormorant (50 km lock), coercer and catalyst. Thrasher is by far the best with speed, alpha and cap less ammo, but it needs to stay in the lock range to finish the target. Cormorant is second best against interceptors, high damage ammo with 24 km optimal will kill an interceptor step by step. Coercer has not enough mid slots and can hardly sustain cap, good overall damage. Catalyst is close range, rail guns sacrifice the damage, not enough PG for hi end weaponry.
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Hannobaal
Gallente
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.07.11 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Derek Sigres
Originally by: Gypsio III
Try dropping a Tracking Computer for a painter - run it through the tracking formula, it may well help your tracking.
I agree, painting a MWD bloated frigate may indeed yield a better result than a tracking computer.
Unlike with missiles, the target painter's effect on tracking the painted target has nothing to do with what the sig radius is before you apply the painter. As long as you are having trouble tracking, the painter will always help, even if the target's sig radius is allready much larger than the sig resolution on your guns.
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Feilamya
Minmatar
Pelennor Swarm
Souls of Vengeance
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Posted - 2008.07.11 21:54:00 -
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Arbitrator.
Can bring a shitload of Warrior IIs that ignore ECM ...
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Apoctasy
The Python Cartel
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Posted - 2008.07.12 01:22:00 -
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I prefer my manticore
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Franga
NQX Innovations
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Posted - 2008.07.12 01:25:00 -
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Originally by: Yiv
Buy a flycatcher or sabre. They are death for frigates.
This. Friggin' Thrasher is very good also. My crows are scared of thrashers.
Originally by: Rachel Vend
... with 100% reliability in most cases ...
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Dheorl
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.07.12 11:08:00 -
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My god I hope you mean 0.21 tracking and not 2.1. If you do mean the second thats just scary.
Have you considered swapping out one of the tracking computers for a sensor booster?
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