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Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic
Tragedy.
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Posted - 2012.03.16 18:26:00 -
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Posting in yet another "why isn't DUST on PC" thread.
DUST is on PS3 and not PC because CCP want's to get money from another demographic not more money from the same demographic. Simple as that.
EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Hannott Thanos
Notorious Legion
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Posted - 2012.03.16 20:06:00 -
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Also if they release it for PC, I would assume that pc players could fight against ps3 players, and that would royally screw over either A: pc players, because devs cba to make a decent gui for computers like all other console titles. B: the ps3 players, because an fps player with a mouse and keyboard can easily roflwtfpwn any and everything that uses a hand-held controller. Or C: both of the above |
Hannott Thanos
Notorious Legion
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Posted - 2012.03.16 20:08:00 -
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Also, how anyone can really enjoy playing fps games on a console with those ****** hand held things ,are way beyond me. L2computer |
Simi Kusoni
The Synergy
Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2012.03.16 20:09:00 -
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Nalha Saldana wrote:CCP have been hinting towards a PC release by saying stuff like "We allowed mouse and keyboard, yeesh i wonder why we did that..."
One thing that's probably worth pointing out is that people may be reading too much in to that, they may easily have meant they added it for the benefit of the PC fan base.
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Leto Aramaus
Ixion Defence Systems
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2012.03.16 20:50:00 -
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Hannott Thanos wrote:Also if they release it for PC, I would assume that pc players could fight against ps3 players, and that would royally screw over either A: pc players, because devs cba to make a decent gui for computers like all other console titles. B: the ps3 players, because an fps player with a mouse and keyboard can easily roflwtfpwn any and everything that uses a hand-held controller. Or C: both of the above
Yea we would rolfwtfpwn them with mouse and keyboard, as for the controls being limited to the amount of buttons on a PS3 controller, that isn't TOO bad for us PC players...
Games like Mass Effect, Skyrim... hmm trying to think of others, ah GTA IV, were made for console commands and GUI, but it doesn't bother me that much on PC, the games are still fun and its kind of nice knowing that I'm 420% better than the Xbox players at all these games. |
The Hamilton
Definitive Exploration and Excavations
The Watchmen.
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Posted - 2012.03.17 06:55:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote:Nalha Saldana wrote:CCP have been hinting towards a PC release by saying stuff like "We allowed mouse and keyboard, yeesh i wonder why we did that..." One thing that's probably worth pointing out is that people may be reading too much in to that, they may easily have meant they added it for the benefit of the PC fan base.
Nicely put and of course you could be right on the money with this one. But considering and the re-packaging, re-releases and re-skinning games get these days I would be shocked if CCP didn't widen their market soon after the initial PS3 launch. I mean, HD Shadow of the Colossus and Boishock's PS3 release after it was said to be a Microsoft only game. It just makes sense to try and release a game on every possible system that can play it. Xbox Live can't (for now) because CCP would have to use their servers, not Tranquillity. Had this not been the case then an Xbox version would be on the cards already, and may still be if Microsoft realises they've just lost a whole sub-genre of console MMO's to Sony (thus giving PS3 a much longer life with many MMO ports).
Hannott Thanos wrote:Also if they release it for PC, I would assume that pc players could fight against ps3 players, and that would royally screw over either A: pc players, because devs cba to make a decent gui for computers like all other console titles. B: the ps3 players, because an fps player with a mouse and keyboard can easily roflwtfpwn any and everything that uses a hand-held controller. Or C: both of the above
You forget that the MOVE control system will absolutely pwn any mouse+keyboard! LOLHACKS
But seriously go troll a CoD forum. Or are you so short sighted you can't read the addition of keyboard and mouse to DUST on the PS3 has been stated at their GDC press release?
(Posting in a thread about DUST, which had a big promotion and press release that almost no one else knows about Wheeee) |
Morpheus Mishima
NorCorp Enterprise
No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2012.03.17 08:32:00 -
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This is what's going to happen to Dust:
1. It gets released on PS3 (duh) - For a short while there is an influx of random people playing it, but mostly EVE players.
2. Random ppl gets bored because its not as competitive as say CoD. So they leave.
3. EVE players feels that CCP has abandoned one of their core promises, never charge extra for an expansion. (For EVE)
4. EVE players start unsubscribing from both EVE and Dust.
5. EVE fails, there is no Fanfest 2013.
Let me clarify my point of view. Although I sympathies with CCP on wanting to break into a different market, this is not the correct way to do that.
Consoles has always been a substandard platform for gaming, and only hipsters and console-fanboi's will tell you something else. Don't get me wrong, you wouldn't want to play WII sports on a PC. But you sure as hell don't want to play a RTS or a FPS or anything else except a board-game; on a Console.
Dust is very similar to Planetside, which is now getting a reboot thanks to Sony (Coincidence? I think not) But PS is a PC game - and lets be honest (for those who bothered to play it) it was excellent. It offered something that no other FPS game could at the time; forced cooperation ;)
I think Dust in of its self is a great idea. Just keep it away from those stupid consoles. And release it for PC.
CCP: It's not about the money, its just that we hate consoles. And we don't like it when you try to wiggle your way out of your own promises. |
Valei Khurelem
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Posted - 2012.03.17 11:14:00 -
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Quote:Console gaming is for 12 year olds and Call of Duty players.
I was agreeing with you entirely right up until you decided to say something daft like this.
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |
kongking wang
14th Legion
Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2012.03.17 16:05:00 -
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dust isn't eve.
That's the first thing you need to get into your head. CCP is not creating an eve replacement. they are creating a new game which better suits the mass console player base rather than the pc base. and why shouldn't they branch into a bigger market. lets face it the pc gaming market isn't what it used to be.
you need to stop looking at dust as an extention eve and more of an addition too.
also your subs have nothing to do with future expansion of ccp's buisness. its their money not yours. time is all your getting and everything else is a free bonus. |
Asudem
Asen of Asgard
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Posted - 2012.03.17 16:37:00 -
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DUST for PC please. |
Asudem
Asen of Asgard
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Posted - 2012.03.17 16:44:00 -
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kongking wang wrote:dust isn't eve.
That's the first thing you need to get into your head. CCP is not creating an eve replacement. they are creating a new game which better suits the mass console player base rather than the pc base. and why shouldn't they branch into a bigger market. lets face it the pc gaming market isn't what it used to be.
you need to stop looking at dust as an extention eve and more of an addition too.
also your subs have nothing to do with future expansion of ccp's buisness. its their money not yours. time is all your getting and everything else is a free bonus.
Wrong. The PC has much more power than those consoles and the console gaming market is shrinking compared to the pc gaming market. Or in other words: PC games are getting more important again. Its called economy. |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
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Posted - 2012.03.17 18:06:00 -
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Asudem wrote:Wrong. The PC has much more power than those consoles and the console gaming market is shrinking compared to the pc gaming market. Or in other words: PC games are getting more important again. Its called economy.
Hmm, really? I thought PC gaming was still on the decline? Any linkies to some stats?
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The Hamilton
Definitive Exploration and Excavations
The Watchmen.
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Posted - 2012.03.17 18:31:00 -
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Anyone else got links to back this / deny this?
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/07/05/pcgaming-trends-2011/ |
Asudem
Asen of Asgard
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Posted - 2012.03.18 00:41:00 -
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My Source: http://ignitegt.com/2011/09/pc-vs-console/ |
EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.18 01:25:00 -
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This is a bad thread and the OP should feel bad.
Now, why are we blue to TNT again? mmm |
Susiqueta Muir
Disturbed Blood Astrometrics
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Posted - 2012.03.29 10:36:00 -
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The Console market dwarfs the PC market as far as playerbase goes. There are players of Eve (myself included) who have PS3's who will be giving it a try (as we don't "Shock horror" Pvp 23.5/7) and there are also console players out there who have access to PC's who have not experienced eve due to the whole "Eve is HARD" concept. If Dust appeals to the PS3 userbase (hell, who wouldn't give a FtP game a go at least once?) then it will build not just a pile of users interested in the game but also additional users interested in the universe overall. if this draws in the kind of players we want to boost the userbase then so be it. the Vertical learning cliff (TM) of Eve will seperate the wheat from the chaff. :)
This will draw more players into "the CCP family" overall which means more subscriptions, more development, more fun stuff (tm) overall.
Yes, we can bang on about "the console market is full of 12 yearolds" but TBH, there are just as many fuckwads on the PC as a % of population.. :).
Overall if Dust fails then we have lost nothing as far as the overall FiS game goes...
SM. |
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