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Janos Audron Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.07.13 02:46:00 - [1] About to setup an apoc, for level 4 missions... Been trying to decide which setup to go for as all my main ones have gains and drawbacks, here is the general main stats though against sansha (main opponent during missions ): (dps tanked)------------(lasts)------------------(how many) Tank---------DPS-------Cap duration----------Tracking mod 484-----------539--------Stable-------------------2 621/646------628--------12m 46sec--------------0 887-----------455--------Stable--------------------1 477-----------696--------11m 2sec----------------1 608-----------539--------10m 19sec---------------1 874-----------539--------21m 32sec---------------0 1044---------455--------Stable---------------------0 Basically I can't be sure how much dps is needed to break some of the tougher spawn tanks, and how much is needed to be tanked during these either. Being turrets I'd want to be able to drop the tackling frigs to ensure if things do go wrong i can still warp out, but unsure how many tracking comps ii's are needed to achieve this. All setups have hammerheads for those stats taken into account also, but without the above info, can't decide which is best to go for atm which of these would you say is better suited? Any rough ideas of some of the harder missions dps/tank needed to complete mission? cs:source sos-s33k3r diaspora: s33k3r, hexxeh always do right. this will gratify some people, and astonish the rest. Trespassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again!
AstroPhobic Minmatar	Posted - 2008.07.13 03:04:00 - [2] I'm confused about your post. 400-500 DPS tank is enough if you know what you're doing. Apoc 8 Megabeam/pulse AB, 2x Cap Recharger II, TC II 3x HS II, Lar II, 3x Mission Specific II Aux Nano/CCC/Optimal rigs dependent on skills and pref Go for gank, only tank the minimum.
Janos Audron Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.07.13 03:26:00 - [3] I see, my post meant those were the stats I could get on my apoc setups, but was unsure which was best suited/balanced for the needs of level 4 missions. I generally prefer defense over offense as a style, and have come across missions (like 1 against gallente type ships with HAC's thorax hulls that reduce targetting range) that did heavy damage while tanking dmg also. With this in mind I want to minimise the risks. Thanks for the info on the 4-500 tank needed, what sort of dps would i need for such missions to break named npc tanks for example? can't remember if was the same missions but remember a npc called "dune something" which was a bit of a pain, as well as those HAC's i mentioned above. cs:source sos-s33k3r diaspora: s33k3r, hexxeh always do right. this will gratify some people, and astonish the rest. Trespassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again!
Terianna Eri Amarr Terianna Eri Corp	Posted - 2008.07.13 04:05:00 - [4] The second or fourth one, probably. you should be able to get enough tank out of the fourth one while bursting the repper (you're nearly cap-stable as-is, can probably tank 400+ and remain stable) plus the near-700 dps and boosted tracking makes it look like the best choice for me. No amount of tracking mods will let your battleship guns hit close orbiting frigs - you can pop them on approach, but once they start orbiting your drones are your best shot. What they will help you do though is be a great help against cruisers and above, particularly at close range - even un-tracking-boosted megapulse can hit cruisers well as close as 15km and battlecruisers at like 8km (numbers pulled out of my butt and are from memory). If you can use T2 large pulse lasers your setup is pretty clear: Highs: 8x Mega Pulse II, Scorch and AN MF Mids: 2-3 cap rechargers, 0-1 sensor boosters, 0-1 tracking computers, 0-1 afterburners Lows: rep, 3x hardeners, 3x heat sink Rigs: 3x CCC (I have 2x CCC and an ACR since I used to fit beams on mine before I got t2 megapulse) __________________________________ Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
Janos Audron Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.07.13 04:24:00 - [5] thanks for the reponse. The problem with number 4, was that was just with 1 large armor rep ii, but all dps stats were with standard multi-freq's, so could get little more with faction ones. as i said though, my fear is the missions with heavy dps that needs to be tanked, lost last apoc to one using large named rep, medium named rep and 3 hardners, but spawns were on timers (20 sec between or something) with warp jamming frigs. With drones alone i couldn't kill the frigs to get a warpout or before next spawn with tackling frigs arrived, in the end the dps got too much :/ This is why I was after more tank focus with dps coming 2nd. If tracking comps won't help hit frigs at all? what about a webifier? and how much do tracking comps help with hits/wrecking hits occur in general? cs:source sos-s33k3r diaspora: s33k3r, hexxeh always do right. this will gratify some people, and astonish the rest. Trespassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again!
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2008.07.13 04:30:00 - [6] Id go with the first
Janos Audron Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.07.13 04:50:00 - [7] lance, you think the 2 tracking comps help that much then? cs:source sos-s33k3r diaspora: s33k3r, hexxeh always do right. this will gratify some people, and astonish the rest. Trespassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again!
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2008.07.13 04:55:00 - [8] 484-----------539--------Stable-------------------2 This reads to me as such: Acceptable tank (manage agro, you will be fine.) Good dps (good enough to burn through stuff reasonably fast) Cap stable 2 tracking computers are a plus, not really needed (if you can drop one for tank, then it would be better, but as is will probably be fine)
Janos Audron Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.07.13 05:17:00 - [9] if I dropped a tracking relay and changed couple things around with that one I could instead get: 645-539-stable with 1 tracking computer cs:source sos-s33k3r diaspora: s33k3r, hexxeh always do right. this will gratify some people, and astonish the rest. Trespassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again!
Annowyn Purgatorial Janitors Inc.	Posted - 2008.07.13 06:22:00 - [10] Originally by: Janos Audron if I dropped a tracking relay and changed couple things around with that one I could instead get: 645-539-stable with 1 tracking computer That should be able to afk tank most missions. Start with that. See how well it holds up and adjust for more dps or tank as you prefer.
Janos Audron Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.07.13 06:24:00 - [11] kk, thanks for the advice any info on my 2 previous questions? If tracking comps won't help hit frigs at all? what about a webifier? and how much do tracking comps help with hits/wrecking hits occur in general? cs:source sos-s33k3r diaspora: s33k3r, hexxeh always do right. this will gratify some people, and astonish the rest. Trespassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again!
Annowyn Purgatorial Janitors Inc.	Posted - 2008.07.13 06:34:00 - [12] Originally by: Janos Audron kk, thanks for the advice any info on my 2 previous questions? If tracking comps won't help hit frigs at all? what about a webifier? and how much do tracking comps help with hits/wrecking hits occur in general? Tracking computers will most likely not help you hit close orbiting frigs to be used for only that reason. A web will, but IMO you should just use your drones for this or kill them as they begin to agress. They fly in a strait line to you so there are no tracking issues and they usually pop instantly. As far as I know wrecking hits are random. On your overview set a tab for transversal. This will give you a number to compare to the rad/sec tracking of your weapon systems. It is pretty self explanatory from there, I think.
Janos Audron Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.07.13 06:57:00 - [13] thanks again for the replies i'll try with a tracking comp, and later with webber then to see if it makes that much of a difference. As i said, them flying towards me from range is fine, its the spawns in deadspace that starts them at under 20km with 2-3 tackling frigs thats the worry cs:source sos-s33k3r diaspora: s33k3r, hexxeh always do right. this will gratify some people, and astonish the rest. Trespassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again!

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