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Basileus
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Posted - 2004.05.23 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: Blooded Heromy How about you would shut the **** up untill you get any idea what they are doin and how you smack. /quote]
...And some more ranting with some pretty spelling mistakes as a bonus. Keep it up! 
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JadedDragon
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Posted - 2004.05.23 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: Vincent Blade Edited by: Vincent Blade on 22/05/2004 19:28:30
Take a look @ our Aunenen Movie
I watched your video from that day.. and was very disturbed to see that I did not even get to make an appearance when I was blown up. 
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Arbenowskee
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Posted - 2004.05.23 01:02:00 -
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Yup, gate camping can get boring from time to time .... I fell asleep today! 
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Ky Vatta
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Posted - 2004.05.23 04:13:00 -
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OK, so you gate-gank for profit...so why do you kill the Pods then?? (that just shows your excuse is wearing a little thin, if you say its just for profit) Corp Chief Engineer |

Zarquon Beeblebrox
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Posted - 2004.05.23 04:32:00 -
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Edited by: Zarquon Beeblebrox on 23/05/2004 05:00:24
Originally by: Ky Vatta OK, so you gate-gank for profit...so why do you kill the Pods then?? (that just shows your excuse is wearing a little thin, if you say its just for profit)
since you my dear have so litle understanding or imagination on why we pod kill. i will tell you
FOR PROFIT!!!
For profit you say ? what you meen, you dont get isk for poding me. Unless i have a bounty then.. which i did not have ...
FOR PROFIT!!!
When someone breaks the blocade, he will jump in to Nonni. Then for the first time in a verry long time, will he find that hiden local chat and yell!
NONNI GATGE IN AUNENE IS CAMPED BY LAME EXPLOITING LOOSERS WITH NO BALLS TO FIGHT EVEN ODS!!!!
What happends then my dear ? Well or profit droped 10%
When we toll a pod and ask for 3mil in case he have implants. We dont know he have implants, he knows we dont know. He will try to make us beleve he dont care about his life and that his clone only cost 500k. So he will bargine that 3mil down, or he will try to sneak him self out of the stasis grip... so we pod him. Next time when he comes with them implants and see me. he knows that if he dont pay he die. So if he do have implants the chance of he paying them 3mil have grown.
So why do we pod ?
PROFIT!
-- Lady Beeblebrox
Teddybears movies
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Ky Vatta
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Posted - 2004.05.23 05:59:00 -
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All people have to do is set the map options, to see where ships are being podded.......(and Aunenen is a well-known gankers stake-out) Corp Chief Engineer |

Lamech
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Posted - 2004.05.23 06:29:00 -
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The sad thing about this whole thing is there was actually a large force in aunenen ready to take the pirates on. Instead of actually getting there and fighting them though they let the pirates sit at the gate at 170k or so picking off the frigs and cruisers in teh group. The group was scared to take them on at close range even though the bs total was 5 on 5 with the aunenen force having many cruisers and frigs in support. The pirates won this fight because the force that responded lacked organization and they were scared of the pirates even though they outnumbered them by close to 10 ships if not more. Pirates are not uber...most people killed by them are just not careful and are not alert. Those that are sick of being killed by pirates quit whining, get some buddies together and take the pirates on....even if you die at least you will having a good fight,
the big L the BIG L Public Relations Director of Extintion Enterprizes |

S3VYN
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Posted - 2004.05.23 06:51:00 -
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Lady, I don't know you. I know some of the crew you choose to hang with, however and that doesn't bode well for your character's trustworthiness.
Profitability can be had without setting out to intentionally ruin the day of new and generally helpless players and it can be had in much larger portions.
You made next to nothing if it took you 5 days to gather that much isk. 25 people, you say? Mine or chain for four hours on a weekend and call yourself profitable and ready to head out for real PvP. You wouldn't do it if you didn't *enjoy* it at some level. What you made is NOT enough to call yourself profitable after that much work with that many people involved. It would rank your activities as one of the least profitable, actually and leave only other types of payoff (of the sadistic variety).
Your excuse doesn't fly with me, sorry. It's griefing. Gate camping is NOT a bad thing in my eyes, it is in fact necessary in parts of the universe and yes, it is horrendously boring most times. Doing so in empire space and to mostly new players is a bad thing. By all means, though, continue. It makes you all easy to find. 
------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |

Lifewire
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Posted - 2004.05.23 11:11:00 -
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Edited by: Lifewire on 23/05/2004 11:14:35
Quote: Lady, I don't know you. I know some of the crew you choose to hang with, however and that doesn't bode well for your character's trustworthiness.
Jaja (german) 
Quote: Profitability can be had without setting out to intentionally ruin the day of new and generally helpless players and it can be had in much larger portions.
Not with pirating and when we read the description of the EVE box we saw there:"choose a profession: Dauntless fleet commander or the most nefarious pirate ever to terrorize the galaxy". And we read:"Form a cartel of ruthless compatriots and control the spaceways. Buy, sell, and barter to amass great wealth...or do it easy way with hostile takeover". We dint read:"Go mining for months, use bookmarks and exploits to save your ass, sell the money on ebay and cry in eve-forums".
Quote: You made next to nothing if it took you 5 days to gather that much isk.
What i ever say: we are pirating in a perfect way but we earn much less than a miner. Balancing is bad for this high risk job. But we play our role and if we need it to do in Rifters: we wonŠt get traders or do NPC farmers.
Quote: 25 people, you say?
19...Zarq allways sees everything double and since we fight for 2, he thinks we are 25, 35 or even 45.
Quote: Mine or chain for four hours on a weekend and call yourself profitable and ready to head out for real PvP.
We were in 0.0 hunting NVAs, Arcadias, FAs and Norads for more than 7 months. There is nothing you can tell us about pvp.
Quote: You wouldn't do it if you didn't *enjoy* it at some level.
You should love your work. But i can understand you donŠt like the roid sucking.
Quote: What you made is NOT enough to call yourself profitable after that much work with that many people involved. It would rank your activities as one of the least profitable, actually and leave only other types of payoff (of the sadistic variety).
But we had fun. ItŠs not our fault that we have to do mass killing. People dont pay ransoms since insurance pays well.
Quote: Your excuse doesn't fly with me, sorry. It's griefing.
Check the EVE box again. Especially the word "terrorize". We will start to petition people that evemassmail us hatemails calling us griefers.
Quote: Gate camping is NOT a bad thing in my eyes, it is in fact necessary in parts of the universe and yes, it is horrendously boring most times.
Gates ARE THE FIGHTING LOCATION!!! I WONT CAMP IN ROIDS - cause there is no traffic comprende?
Quote: Doing so in empire space and to mostly new players is a bad thing. By all means, though, continue. It makes you all easy to find.
Not our fault that alliance players have bookmarks and use the cloaking exploit. This makes it nessesairy to pirate in empire, because we cannot live from the loot of 3-4 BS we catch in 0.0. I guess CCP will learn to balance. IT SHOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR AN INDY TO BREAK THROUGH A BLOCKADE IN 0.0. Bookmarks and cloaking exploit (the valif tactic) makes it easy - unstopable.
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Trishy Electra
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Posted - 2004.05.23 11:42:00 -
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i still remember when i first enetered a 0.4 system or lower a window popped up wich said something like "you are about to enter dangerous grounds...concord will not blabla" people that smacktalk,whine or say exploit when their ship gets blown up should think back about that lil window that popped up..
if you dont like it DONT go into unsecure space stay in carebear space and fitt all your ships out with all carebear modules. look at the map when you're traveling trough unsecure space i dont care what you do but plz stop calling this an exploit.
if this would have been an exploit ccp has to make sure its not possible. "ccp cant do that?" fu they can change the range on the sentrygun well i'm 100% sure they can change the damage too , set it so that that they do like 100.000 damage every second.
to the people that gatecamp if you see IOCTL pop into local just stop tanking the guns and make a run for it lol
last time we tanked the guns we had 3 BS's 5 cruisers 2 intys and some frigs and IOCTL just warped in on us and started to shoot the crap out of us after i convo'ed himm he said his shields didnt go under 50% and his capa was still at 85% he does this all the time trowing himself into such battles and mostly comes out as the winner
much respect to IOCTL for that you got yourself a fan here
ps: we lost 4 cruisers that night and 1 BS lmao
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Eradicus Gwyddawg
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Posted - 2004.05.23 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Lifewire
ThatŠs the big big EVE problem: you donŠt need skill to be unstopable: all you need are bookmarks and the cloaking exploit...
Yup yup
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Mephisha
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Posted - 2004.05.23 13:05:00 -
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Edited by: Mephisha on 23/05/2004 13:07:27
Originally by: Vincent Blade
Originally by: Jebidus Skari
Helping each other is an exploit, file a petition.
They're clearly exploiting, file a petition.
They must have exploited to get there file a petition.
Exploiters 
No its not an exploit. Its only an explot if your overtank Concord, but at < 0.5 is no Concord. And you can pass every system in a pod even 1.0 systems.
Mmmm but then how did you get from your pod into a battleship?
Somebody friendly to you with better security status must have brought it there and given it to you.
That would be borderline to exploiting game mechanics.
------------------------------------------------ I have seen carebears with claws and PvP-Lords hiding in high sec space. So AWAY with all those terms. We are ALL citizens of EVE. |

Lifewire
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Posted - 2004.05.23 13:30:00 -
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Quote: Mmmm but then how did you get from your pod into a battleship?
Somebody friendly to you with better security status must have brought it there and given it to you.
That would be borderline to exploiting game mechanics.
lol... sorry canŠt stop. One day using guns will be an exploit. Why canŠt you just accept the danger in 0.1-0.4?
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Mephisha
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Posted - 2004.05.23 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: Lifewire
Quote: Mmmm but then how did you get from your pod into a battleship?
Somebody friendly to you with better security status must have brought it there and given it to you.
That would be borderline to exploiting game mechanics.
lol... sorry canŠt stop. One day using guns will be an exploit. Why canŠt you just accept the danger in 0.1-0.4?
Read carefully .... i said it's borderline to exploiting.
From a roleplaying point of view you could see it as smuggling special equipment in for "terrorist" attacks
------------------------------------------------ I have seen carebears with claws and PvP-Lords hiding in high sec space. So AWAY with all those terms. We are ALL citizens of EVE. |

Manasseh Rephaim
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Posted - 2004.05.23 14:52:00 -
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Well, it's evident that this tactic is not an exploit, but is in the gray area or borderline to an exploit per a CCP new hire. It's not like the Yulai incident from what he/she tells me.
I give credit to ppl who did this. In the end, it was I who failed to ck who was in local before warping to the gate, and I paid the untimate price by having my Ibis and 1 unit of Trit taken from me. Not a big loss, but a loss none the less. At least I was awarded 2K ISK for an uninsured Ibis, hehe. |

XpoHoc
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Posted - 2004.05.23 15:01:00 -
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Pirates, get back into your ships and make your weapons ready. Let the afk miners have the forums, it's their place to fight not our.
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Jebidus Skari
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Posted - 2004.05.23 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Mephisha Edited by: Mephisha on 23/05/2004 13:07:27
Originally by: Vincent Blade
Originally by: Jebidus Skari
Helping each other is an exploit, file a petition.
They're clearly exploiting, file a petition.
They must have exploited to get there file a petition.
Exploiters 
No its not an exploit. Its only an explot if your overtank Concord, but at < 0.5 is no Concord. And you can pass every system in a pod even 1.0 systems.
Mmmm but then how did you get from your pod into a battleship?
Somebody friendly to you with better security status must have brought it there and given it to you.
That would be borderline to exploiting game mechanics.
LOL, please tell me you were being sarcastic like me?? 
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Tyto
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Posted - 2004.06.17 23:24:00 -
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Originally by: Lamech Pirates are not uber...most people killed by them are just not careful and are not alert. Those that are sick of being killed by pirates quit whining, get some buddies together and take the pirates on....even if you die at least you will having a good fight,
the big L
Ahhhh, I remember teaching you that lesson Lamech, do you? Nice to see you seem to be getting better 
"Dulce Bellum Inexpertis"
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Sicori Malaki
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Posted - 2004.06.18 04:44:00 -
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I've nearly been killed by gate-campers, when I was in my most praised possession, the Armageddon I just spent all my resources on, I've been killed by gate campers, althou I didn't lose the precious Arma, I've "visited" gate camping zones on purpose. I personally see nothing wrong with shooting people and demanding "ransom" for not killing them, it'a profession that in some cases is quite wortwhile, see some of the m0o people out there, hunting the belt and looking for miners and demanding ransom for their ships, if there's money to be made from being a pirate, I have nothing against it :P.
and on a sidenote..
Quote:
THIS IS LIKE BREAD, ITS NOT GOOD, ITS FOOD! -- Lady Beeblebrox
I must say as a member of the I LOVE BREAD club, that bread is good, and the only thing you need in life, is:Computer, eve, bread, cheese and something to drink. ______________ Only in the Tales that humans tell, do the hunters kill the wolf in the end.
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Seto Mazzarotto
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Posted - 2004.06.18 09:13:00 -
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/me sees blob on map
/me plots course around Aunenen
/me wonders why other people don't use the tools at their disposal
It's Darwinism, folks. That's the way it works here and it'd be dull otherwise. It's why ships are insurable and one can buy clones so cheap.  ----------- Fighting for the ideals of freespace, posthuman ethics, and rock & roll. |

khainestar
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Posted - 2004.06.18 13:37:00 -
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The tolling file had some good grins in it. Zarquon Beeblebrox I take my hat off to you for being polite in the face of abuse.
I hope Jinx TyDevi,Atzavara,XONXERCES,Zatara,Ammundan and Jinx TyDevi have all been added to the increased toll list for there bad manners.
I have been tolled twice now. Once by a n00b pirate in 0.3 space. He couldn't tell the difference between a condor and a cruise missile totting crow. He burned. and once by a professional bunch deep into 0.0.
Its part of the game. If I see people in local I don't know I start looking to see which gate they are camping. You can use the directional scanner to spot people massing at a gate.
Quote:
/me sees blob on map
/me plots course around Aunenen
/me wonders why other people don't use the tools at their disposal
Hell sometimes I go straight through camped gates for a laugh. If I get caught, I get caught, If I escape I have a laugh in local then run for my life. 
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Pain. Looks great on other people. Its what there for. |

Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2004.06.18 19:02:00 -
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Edited by: Tenacha Khan on 18/06/2004 19:04:01
Quote: The tolling file had some good grins in it. Zarquon Beeblebrox I take my hat off to you for being polite in the face of abuse.
I hope Jinx TyDevi,Atzavara,XONXERCES,Zatara,Ammundan and Jinx TyDevi have all been added to the increased toll list for there bad manners.
khainestar, the bad thing about it was i had caught Xonxerces in a belt somewhere in empire and had let her dom go for next to nothing, cause i was in a good mood. I prolly would have gotten more if i had of just blown her up, but i suppose thats what ya get for being nice to people....the convo with Zarquon was nothing compared to the pages of smacktalk in local.
Funny thing is, she wanted to join my corp....but i thought id wait and see...hehe..lucky me
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.06.18 22:27:00 -
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it always amazes me when i get mails that Aunenen is being camped, can u guys help..... Aunenen is next to Nonni... im sure a army of 20 BS could be mustered just from this system alone.... Nonni is like the centre of EVE:).
get organised, get into a gang, use ECM well....
now the new patch has made it so that ALL ships in gang must have shields.... think about that one next time .. no seperate tanking ship to soak up fire...
d solo.
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Skelator
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Posted - 2004.06.18 23:46:00 -
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Its Lady Beeblebrox to you sir.
And one day she shall be our Queen (bowing deeply) 
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Trianon Starstealer
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Posted - 2004.06.19 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: Blooded Heromy Why dont you go to test server and try to jamm them, tank them, dampen them or exploid them and use time for somthing vice instead of postin here about a issue that have been talked ower and ower again, to me you look simply dummb for that act. 
GM have allready told that this is leagal and still you roidkillers are angry WHAT do you want ?
Quote: Last question: Does it really take 8 Scorpion BS and 1 Rupture to kill a single Caldari Ibis? lol
OMG how i hate ppl that say dumb things 
well..... this was very very naughty...... I have to say... I expect more from a bunch of pirates... I'm very disapointed in you all.... please stop this at once.....
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2004.06.19 00:39:00 -
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we havnt actually done this in a month or more, if yall look at the first page its back in may
some1s been a n0rty forum hog
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2004.06.19 00:43:00 -
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btw, Darth they did muster a force to combat us, they outnumbered us by 1 or 2 on the bs and had a load of frigs and cruisers for support, we could not possible engage em all within sentry gun range, so we moved out of it and picked off all their cruisers and stuff. tbh Lamech (think he posted earlier) was the only 1 who kinda knew what to do. But they had better numbers and they should have really attacked. personally i dont have a problem attacking anyone, with any numbers
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Van Halen
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Posted - 2004.06.20 23:35:00 -
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u guys kno what?? **** exploits. ok imagine in real life a guys in a tank and cops are shootin at him, is that an exploit? do the cops run up and say "sir u exploiting lifes game mechanics we are going to have to ban u and delete ur account from life...no they just call in bigger guns. So y in EVE does it have to be this way? isnt EVE suppossed to simulate these kinda things. runnin from cops is an exploit my ***!!! do major criminals stay in one spot and let the cops shoot them in rl? LIKE **** THEY DO!!!! they run the **** out of there and go in to hidin, i've learned to deal with it after a while tho knowin EVE isnt perfect but still 
2004.09.10 01:59:13 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Heavy Neutron Blaster I perfectly strikes Ater Draconis [MYT], wrecking for 361.2 damage. |

Bug
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Posted - 2004.06.20 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Van Halen isnt EVE suppossed to simulate these kinda things.
No.
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Van Halen
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Posted - 2004.06.21 00:29:00 -
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ok bugs right mayb its not supossed to simulate that kidna stuff but u have to admit, gettin banned fro mthe gae for fightin cops is kidna stupid, now i suppose i'm gonna get flamed by carebears sayin there gonna slaughtered by the millions, wel i say bought time u furry little bastards got some taste of carnage
2004.09.10 01:59:13 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Heavy Neutron Blaster I perfectly strikes Ater Draconis [MYT], wrecking for 361.2 damage. |
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