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Kalintos Tyl
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Posted - 2008.07.16 09:59:00 -
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Currently they are 95% useless. You only profit form them if you shoot torpedos on cruiser sized ships but these will die quick anywey without them. Target painters need serious rework. Make them useful like ecm and damps.
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Kalintos Tyl
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Posted - 2008.07.16 09:59:00 -
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Currently they are 95% useless. You only profit form them if you shoot torpedos on cruiser sized ships but these will die quick anywey without them. Target painters need serious rework. Make them useful like ecm and damps.
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J'Mkarr Soban
Amarr Proxenetae Invicti
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Posted - 2008.07.16 11:31:00 -
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Mmmm, tachys tracking on painted frigates ftw...
-- These are my personal views and in no way represent the views of Proxenetae Invicti, which maintains a neutral stance stemming from the strong ethics demanded of its work. |
Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2008.07.16 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: Kalintos Tyl Currently they are 95% useless. You only profit form them if you shoot torpedos on cruiser sized ships but these will die quick anywey without them. Target painters need serious rework. Make them useful like ecm and damps.
I suggest that you learn how the tracking formula works, then delete this rubbish.
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Kalintos Tyl
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Posted - 2008.07.16 15:07:00 -
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Edited by: Kalintos Tyl on 16/07/2008 15:08:21
Originally by: Gypsio III
Originally by: Kalintos Tyl Currently they are 95% useless. You only profit form them if you shoot torpedos on cruiser sized ships but these will die quick anywey without them. Target painters need serious rework. Make them useful like ecm and damps.
I suggest that you learn how the tracking formula works, then delete this rubbish.
then why they are used only on torp ships rarly and nothing else ?:D Every pvper is dumb and you pro i suppouse.
Nanoships got 600% signature and how you hit them ?:D
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Matalino
Gallente Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.16 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: Gypsio III I suggest that you learn how the tracking formula works, then delete this rubbish.
How about we give Target painters a bonus, with no stacking penalties, to improve the tracking of all ships shooting at a target!
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Kalintos Tyl
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Posted - 2008.07.16 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: Matalino
Originally by: Gypsio III I suggest that you learn how the tracking formula works, then delete this rubbish.
How about we give Target painters a bonus, with no stacking penalties, to improve the tracking of all ships shooting at a target!
this would be better than this crap signature bonus.
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Matalino
Gallente Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.16 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: Kalintos Tyl
Originally by: Matalino
Originally by: Gypsio III I suggest that you learn how the tracking formula works, then delete this rubbish.
How about we give Target painters a bonus, with no stacking penalties, to improve the tracking of all ships shooting at a target!
this would be better than this crap signature bonus.
You missed the smilie. It was there to indicate that is EXACTLY what the effect of a target painter currently is.
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Kalintos Tyl
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Posted - 2008.07.16 15:21:00 -
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well signature helps tracking but by small margin so its not noticable. It should be direct bonus.
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Matalino
Gallente Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.16 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Kalintos Tyl well signature helps tracking but by small margin so its not noticable. It should be direct bonus.
That is why you were refered to the tracking formula earlier.
A 30% increase in your targets signature radius has the exact same effect as a 30% increase in your turrets tracking.
The effect is identical.
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Gaven Blands
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.16 16:29:00 -
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The names of the T1 named painters abbreviate to:-
PWN PWND PWNT
and PWNAGE.
That wasn't a mistake or coincidence. In the right hands, in the right situation, painters are absolutely lethal.
In general use, they're average.
In mission runner hands, they're pretty little icon, like the Predators tracking animation, and about as dangerous as a pork sausage.
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BlondieBC
7th Tribal Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.18 08:37:00 -
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In addition to sig bonus, target painters should also get the same % to explosive velocity of missles and gun tracking. I think this would make them more useful.
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Ishina Fel
Caldari Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.07.18 10:29:00 -
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Target Painters are underrated because few understand how they work, and underused because few have the midslots to fit any.
The issue is not that target painters suck, the issue is that too much essential stuff goes into the same slots that they occupy.
MWD, Web, Scram, Injector: the magic four of PvP. There is almost no single ship below BC size (and in non-Caldari races, below BS size) that has more than those 4 midslots. And in the rare case they do, they're EW specialized ships.
That is the reason why only torp ravens fit painters - nothing else has slots to spare
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