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Karok Vilneram State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.07.16 14:38:00 - [1] I keep hearing people talk about it. Wanted to know exactly what it is. Some kind of special fit for a crow I am assuming?
BiggestT Caldari Fun Inc	Posted - 2008.07.16 14:40:00 - [2] ..never heard of it, just make sure u fit ur mwd and ur scram, nothing else really matters that much apart from cpa stability... poudly annoying fc's since 2007
Clueless Alt	Posted - 2008.07.16 14:40:00 - [3] Edited by: Clueless Alt on 16/07/2008 14:42:18 An extremely pimped Crow. Movie thread. Kb (for the fitt).
BiggestT Caldari Fun Inc	Posted - 2008.07.16 14:46:00 - [4] Originally by: BiggestT ..never heard of it, just make sure u fit ur mwd and ur scram, nothing else really matters that much apart from cpa stability... oh and ur low slot speed/nanofibre mods of course rigs are kinda over the top..6km/s is fine imo poudly annoying fc's since 2007
Lubomir Penev interimo	Posted - 2008.07.16 15:04:00 - [5] Originally by: Karok Vilneram I keep hearing people talk about it. Wanted to know exactly what it is. Some kind of special fit for a crow I am assuming? Given your corp easy for you to get a demo. Just fly around Tama when Evil Edna is around. -- Coming to you, Assault Ships fix, by the people saying that the Gallente Recons are fine.
Maeltstome Minmatar Suicidal Office Clerks	Posted - 2008.07.16 15:11:00 - [6] Originally by: Karok Vilneram I keep hearing people talk about it. Wanted to know exactly what it is. Some kind of special fit for a crow I am assuming? It's a faction fitted crow flown by a pilot with snakes - it goes around 18km/s and has a domi web/ disruptor, which means 15km webbing and 30km scram. It's a decent ship - but i'll take a 30mil pulse 'sader over it anyday. ------- [12:07] w33Daz: a trained 1 skill fur 24 mins n it took 2 days aff drones lvl 5 [12:07] w33Daz: A WIS LIKE WTF
Arvald Caldari Ninja's N Pirate's	Posted - 2008.07.16 15:35:00 - [7] Originally by: Maeltstome Originally by: Karok Vilneram I keep hearing people talk about it. Wanted to know exactly what it is. Some kind of special fit for a crow I am assuming? It's a faction fitted crow flown by a pilot with snakes - it goes around 18km/s and has a domi web/ disruptor, which means 15km webbing and 30km scram. It's a decent ship - but i'll take a 30mil pulse 'sader over it anyday. this
Euriti Gallente SniggWaffe	Posted - 2008.07.16 15:42:00 - [8] It's one of the reasons why farting isk is funny
Stab Wounds Caldari	Posted - 2008.07.16 17:08:00 - [9] Originally by: Maeltstome Originally by: Karok Vilneram I keep hearing people talk about it. Wanted to know exactly what it is. Some kind of special fit for a crow I am assuming? It's a faction fitted crow flown by a pilot with snakes - it goes around 18km/s and has a domi web/ disruptor, which means 15km webbing and 30km scram. This doesn't sound game breaking or overpowred at all.
Arvald Caldari Ninja's N Pirate's	Posted - 2008.07.16 17:09:00 - [10] Originally by: Stab Wounds Originally by: Maeltstome Originally by: Karok Vilneram I keep hearing people talk about it. Wanted to know exactly what it is. Some kind of special fit for a crow I am assuming? It's a faction fitted crow flown by a pilot with snakes - it goes around 18km/s and has a domi web/ disruptor, which means 15km webbing and 30km scram. This doesn't sound game breaking or overpowred at all. [/quote my sentinel will eat it for breakfast Originally by: Siddy APERANTLY GEED PEE VEE PEE PLAYAS!!111 im in your forums, derailing your threads
Riho Gallente Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.07.16 17:22:00 - [11] Edited by: Riho on 16/07/2008 17:25:15 Originally by: Karok Vilneram I keep hearing people talk about it. Wanted to know exactly what it is. Some kind of special fit for a crow I am assuming? a crow used by evil edna (i think thats the name) fit: 3x caldari navy standard launcher 1x republic fleet 150mm Autocannon (id use t2 tbh and barrage) 1x gistii a type mwd 1x domination warp disruptor 1x domination web 2x rep fleet overdrives 1x estamaels ballistic control unit (best BCU in game i think) 2x polycarbon t2 High grade snake set + all the best hardwireings now go fly around 17km/s or so solo :P EDIT: and for those who say its overpowerd and game breaking... they can go ** them selves tbh.... if you spend god knows how many billions(6+ i think) on this setup.... you should have a advantage over crap t2 fit stuff. a smart rapier/huginn pilot can kill this whit ease.... it wount fast anymore if it s double webbed... but usually if you fly something like this.. you have flying skill to stay away from rapiers and huginns ---------------------------------- Fighting for Minmatar o7** Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
Evil Edna FIRMA	Posted - 2008.07.16 17:26:00 - [12] yup thats the one ^
Trevor Warps	Posted - 2008.07.16 17:42:00 - [13] Why the hell is it called teamwork ?
Haradgrim Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2008.07.16 17:43:00 - [14] Edited by: Haradgrim on 16/07/2008 17:44:47 Originally by: Trevor Warps Why the hell is it called teamwork ? Because its used in a gang Originally by: Riho and for those who say its overpowerd and game breaking... they can go ** them selves tbh.... if you spend god knows how many billions(6+ i think) on this setup.... you should have a advantage over crap t2 fit stuff. a smart rapier/huginn pilot can kill this whit ease.... it wount fast anymore if it s double webbed... but usually if you fly something like this.. you have flying skill to stay away from rapiers and huginns QFT, tbh -- Originally by:** CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
Maeltstome Minmatar Suicidal Office Clerks	Posted - 2008.07.16 17:44:00 - [15] In a battle with no webbing ships - the Crow is an AFK boat, by far the easiest of all 'ceptors to fly effectively. going at those sort of speeds is a big compliment to this - zero tracking being taken full advantage of. It's also a good way to make money by killing one if you're in the right ship. ------- [12:07] w33Daz: a trained 1 skill fur 24 mins n it took 2 days aff drones lvl 5 [12:07] w33Daz: A WIS LIKE WTF
z0de Gallente The Bastards	Posted - 2008.07.16 17:47:00 - [16] Originally by: Maeltstome In a battle with no webbing ships - the Crow is an AFK boat, by far the easiest of all 'ceptors to fly effectively. Has never tried to keep point in a asteroid belt/mission going 7km/s+ whilst staying above 24km away and within 30km.
Maeltstome Minmatar Suicidal Office Clerks	Posted - 2008.07.16 17:56:00 - [17] Originally by: z0de Edited by: z0de on 16/07/2008 17:47:17 Originally by: Maeltstome In a battle with no webbing ships - the Crow is an AFK boat, by far the easiest of all 'ceptors to fly effectively. Has never tried to keep point in a asteroid belt going 7km/s+ whilst staying above 24km away and within 30km. Oh noes, you mean your faction disruptor crow has to deal with the same issues every other ceptor does?!? Now do all that while keeping your traversal in place to hit with guns. ------- [12:07] w33Daz: a trained 1 skill fur 24 mins n it took 2 days aff drones lvl 5 [12:07] w33Daz: A WIS LIKE WTF
Evil Edna FIRMA	Posted - 2008.07.16 18:03:00 - [18] Originally by: Trevor Warps Why the hell is it called teamwork ? because its used mostly solo and im not a team player
z0de Gallente The Bastards	Posted - 2008.07.16 18:05:00 - [19] Originally by: Maeltstome Originally by: z0de Edited by: z0de on 16/07/2008 17:47:17 Originally by: Maeltstome In a battle with no webbing ships - the Crow is an AFK boat, by far the easiest of all 'ceptors to fly effectively. Has never tried to keep point in a asteroid belt going 7km/s+ whilst staying above 24km away and within 30km. Oh noes, you mean your faction disruptor crow has to deal with the same issues every other ceptor does?!? Now do all that while keeping your traversal in place to hit with guns. I was just pointing out its not an afk boat and I fly gallente ceptors not faction crows btw.
Trevor Warps	Posted - 2008.07.16 18:46:00 - [20] Originally by: Evil Edna Originally by: Trevor Warps Why the hell is it called teamwork ? because its used mostly solo and im not a team player So just a normal fit with pimp mods and its now called teamwork... Nice name.
Dray Caldari Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2008.07.16 19:21:00 - [21] The "teamwork" name is from his corp m8's who appreciate the time and effort Edna puts into helping out his fellow pilots..........
ArmyOfMe hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.07.16 19:24:00 - [22] Originally by: Stab Wounds This doesn't sound game breaking or overpowred at all. lol, there is always one
agent apple FIRMA	Posted - 2008.07.16 22:33:00 - [23] Originally by: Evil Edna im not a team player QFT Some say the Gallente doomsday is a momentary release of ednas awesomeness. All we know is it would be a teamwork erebus.
Jack Butner Amarr	Posted - 2008.07.17 20:03:00 - [24] 6 billion for a crow?
alpha charlie Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.07.17 21:06:00 - [25] a remotely good ranis pilot can own a 18km/s crow
ThaDollaGenerale Endless Destruction	Posted - 2008.07.18 00:06:00 - [26] wait, you guys don't understand. It's a crow. That does 18 km/sec and has cruiser sized DPS. That's what makes it pimp.
Atsuko Ratu Caldari VSP Corp.	Posted - 2008.07.18 02:44:00 - [27] Originally by: ThaDollaGenerale wait, you guys don't understand. It's a crow. That does 18 km/sec and has cruiser sized DPS. That's what makes it pimp. lol, cruiser dps, I'd hate to see how you fit your cruiser. My favorite part was the skill remark. That made my day
Pettu Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2008.07.18 02:44:00 - [28] Originally by: Evil Edna Originally by: Trevor Warps Why the hell is it called teamwork ? because its used mostly solo and im not a team player Originally by: Dray The "teamwork" name is from his corp m8's who appreciate the time and effort Edna puts into helping out his fellow pilots.......... that ^^ ... too bad the "Solo" Bhaalgorn didn't see any action ---- Working on a new sig
Admiral Pelleon Caldari White Shadow Imperium	Posted - 2008.07.18 04:39:00 - [29] Originally by: alpha charlie a remotely good ranis pilot can own a 18km/s crow Not with a domi scram and web on the crow. ________ Originally by: Tarminic I believe your mother should have re-rolled her birth control.
Wideen Contraband Inc.	Posted - 2008.07.18 04:56:00 - [30] Originally by: Stab Wounds Originally by: Maeltstome Originally by: Karok Vilneram I keep hearing people talk about it. Wanted to know exactly what it is. Some kind of special fit for a crow I am assuming? It's a faction fitted crow flown by a pilot with snakes - it goes around 18km/s and has a domi web/ disruptor, which means 15km webbing and 30km scram. This doesn't sound game breaking or overpowred at all. until it gets neuted and explodes shortly afterwards = one unhappy crow pilot..
JS LiamElms Gallente Quantum Industries RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.18 08:09:00 - [31] first... its a crow. the main advantage is the domi web... but if your goign to be fighting anything with speed, your going to have to hit the web bang on at the right angle or they'd drift out of web range. second, anyone with a once of understanding on game mechanics will know using 125s with iron will happily eat through his shields. one of the few things that will be able to track. third, as a crow it is the ultimate hit 'orbit' ship to kill things. No real skill is required to start pounding ships with those tasty missiles. overheat would work wonders on this ship too.... 19.5k web o_0 and 45k disruption range. still... i like the idea of just hitting orbit and always hitting a slow ship.
H Lecter Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2008.07.18 08:40:00 - [32] Nice, 6 billion for a ceptor. That's roughly 250 - 300 Taranis with standard fit; I guess I'll stick with them But if someone wants to afford it, he shall fly it. And I don't think it's overpowered considering the price tag.
Evil Edna FIRMA	Posted - 2008.07.18 12:31:00 - [33] Originally by: alpha charlie a remotely good ranis pilot can own a 18km/s crow it would have to be a ranis capable of over 12km/sec to have a real hope in my video i show fighting a polycarbed ion ranis with a good setup. i start at 0ms, webbed and 0km from him and he only takes me into 65% shield before i break web and kill him
JS LiamElms Gallente Quantum Industries RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.18 12:49:00 - [34] Originally by: Evil Edna Originally by: alpha charlie a remotely good ranis pilot can own a 18km/s crow it would have to be a ranis capable of over 12km/sec to have a real hope in my video i show fighting a polycarbed ion ranis with a good setup. i start at 0ms, webbed and 0km from him and he only takes me into 65% shield before i break web and kill him be interesting to see that video... but, first... WHY would you poly a ranis! unless your after speed, then you wouldn't really be using ions anyway! i'd like to see you get away from a gank ranis..... and, if they are in some speed enhancement implants you will prob get your basic gank ranis to a good speed, say 10k. Tbh, i'd like to see you get away from a 240dps ranis when at 0 range with him doing 10k pimped... infact i might just doing some eft gaydom and see what a totally pimped implanted ranis can do. Cause tbh, that would be a ship requiring some skill to fly and live after flying time and time again. additionally, how did you get to 0... did you say.. right we start at 0... what about the approach? or the angle of approach? the real question is... was this a pimped ranis like your pimped crow? Hey.... pimping ships that work on the click orbit, sit back while your long range web holds them down is combat as exciting as DDing a 7 man hac fleet! your 'click orbit' ship does not impress me tbh
JS LiamElms Gallente Quantum Industries RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.18 13:18:00 - [35] Edited by: JS LiamElms on 18/07/2008 13:21:11 Originally by: Evil Edna Originally by: alpha charlie a remotely good ranis pilot can own a 18km/s crow it would have to be a ranis capable of over 12km/sec to have a real hope in my video i show fighting a polycarbed ion ranis with a good setup. i start at 0ms, webbed and 0km from him and he only takes me into 65% shield before i break web and kill him one pimped for you ed.... [Taranis, Gank] Gallente Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Gallente Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Damage Control II Gistii A-Type 1MN MicroWarpdrive Domination Warp Scrambler Domination Stasis Webifier Gallente Navy Light Neutron Blaster, Antimatter Charge S Gallente Navy Light Neutron Blaster, Antimatter Charge S Gallente Navy Light Neutron Blaster, Antimatter Charge S [empty high slot] Ancillary Current Router I Polycarbon Engine Housing II Hobgoblin II x2 overheat this baby, and your going 15k, that will jump on your a.ss with overheated gal spec neutrons it'll kick out 270dps spec'd up to nice and high skills, hell, you can drop the DC and slap a 3rd gal spec'd mag on it spitting out over 300dps. I'd also happily drop the Poly II tbh for a t1 version cause thats just wasting money now isen't it. It'll be ok if you want to run away... cause thats really all you do, pick on the obvious easy target and 'click orbit'. With most of the other inties your going to have to actually fly them, and develop some skills. edit: slipped a poly II on for the extra speed and cause i removed all speed mods infavour of dps. I'd remove it to put on a aux thruster to reduce the price of the fitting, but here we're talking about a real contender to an equally pimped alt crow. Teamwork indeed o.0
Riho Gallente Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.07.18 13:22:00 - [36] Originally by: JS LiamElms fit needs t2 guns 1) t2 guns make you able to use null (must) 2) t2 guns do more dps 3) evil edna would use cormacks mag stabs :P i flew the blaster ranis for a VERY long time and i cant think of a fight against a ceptor where i wouldnt use null pretty much... too high chance of getting out of range ---------------------------------- Fighting for Minmatar o7 Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
Evil Edna FIRMA	Posted - 2008.07.18 13:26:00 - [37] Edited by: Evil Edna on 18/07/2008 13:27:00 you seem to have missed some important issues. that a ranis, even with neutrons has a limited range. once over about 8km the hits will be poor, giving a large area where the crow can keep the ranis webbed but outside its effective range and then kill it. and no, that ranis wasnt super pimp, but it was a properly fitted t2 setup with polycarbons, which is more than the vast majority of ceptors seem to have, and the statement was a decent ranis pilot, not a super pimped ranis. my point is it will take more than that to beat this crow setup with a ranis. in all honesty a crusader is more of a threat, or a malediction. edit - ^ was to the razor guy
JS LiamElms Gallente Quantum Industries RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.18 13:48:00 - [38] Originally by: Evil Edna Edited by: Evil Edna on 18/07/2008 13:27:00 you seem to have missed some important issues. that a ranis, even with neutrons has a limited range. once over about 8km the hits will be poor, giving a large area where the crow can keep the ranis webbed but outside its effective range and then kill it. and no, that ranis wasnt super pimp, but it was a properly fitted t2 setup with polycarbons, which is more than the vast majority of ceptors seem to have, and the statement was a decent ranis pilot, not a super pimped ranis. my point is it will take more than that to beat this crow setup with a ranis. in all honesty a crusader is more of a threat, or a malediction. edit - ^ was to the razor guy you running around at speeds that will involve alot of drift. 10k or 18k assuming angle correct will be fine to drift into range of each other at correct angles. Additionally, antimatter beats null through tracking. You put null on then your tracking dies. hey, and if the is more improvements then yes, lets slap those on... but flying around in a pimped to high heaven crow makes no sense to claim superiority unless you face equally pimped. That was my point. my respons was to your ion based ranis.... I am sure you are aware of the machanics when it comes to high intense inty dog fights, and the postionings involved to hit a good pass landing a web and still maintaining the needed range before you both drift to a slow pace. Good ranis pilots have to be good at pulsing MWD to land right ontop of the target with mwd OFF. so to get beyond your web range is already a prerequisite of getting upclose and personal. With that kind of DPS, he only needs to be close for a few secs.
SuiJuris	Posted - 2008.07.18 14:48:00 - [39] First off Edna wasn't bragging about how she killed a Ranis, someone stated a well flown ranis could beat her setup, and to be honest that sounds like bupkis, don't get me wrong the Ranis is a great dogfighting ceptor and I like its style. At the end of the day though I think a Sader would be more of a threat to this pimpmobile.
Dark Voynix Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2008.07.18 14:48:00 - [40] Originally by: Evil Edna Originally by: Trevor Warps Why the hell is it called teamwork ? because its used mostly solo and im not a team player hm ..... and why its not called : "Edna's Crow" ? also Evil crow should be quite appropriated ...
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Eve Defence Force	Posted - 2008.07.18 15:12:00 - [41] Originally by: Dray The "teamwork" name is from his corp m8's who appreciate the time and effort Edna puts into helping out his fellow pilots.......... best sig lol ----------------------------------------- [Video] I'm a soldier, so remember the name
Naomi Wildfire Amarr Stardust Heavy Industries Majesta Empire	Posted - 2008.07.19 01:27:00 - [42] Originally by: Trevor Warps Why the hell is it called teamwork ? 'cause it cant fight anything on its own
Reginvalt	Posted - 2008.07.19 10:15:00 - [43] Edited by: Reginvalt on 19/07/2008 10:15:53 h8 crows. If u want kill noobs in lowsec, buy a crow. `
ViRUS Pottage Caldari hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.07.19 12:19:00 - [44] Originally by: Stab Wounds Originally by: Maeltstome Originally by: Karok Vilneram I keep hearing people talk about it. Wanted to know exactly what it is. Some kind of special fit for a crow I am assuming? It's a faction fitted crow flown by a pilot with snakes - it goes around 18km/s and has a domi web/ disruptor, which means 15km webbing and 30km scram. This doesn't sound game breaking or overpowred at all. Snakes - about 1bil Polycarbs x2 - about 100m Crow - about 15m 2x OD faction - 100m Faction Nano - 40m Gistii A-Type - 150m Domi web and scram - not sure, probably something near 150m Arby launchers - about 30m Its not overpowered, just means you got phat wallet. _____________________
ArmyOfMe hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.07.19 12:39:00 - [45] Originally by: ViRUS Pottage Snakes - about 1bil Polycarbs x2 - about 100m Crow - about 15m 2x OD faction - 100m Faction Nano - 40m Gistii A-Type - 150m Domi web and scram - not sure, probably something near 150m Arby launchers - about 30m Its not overpowered, just means you got phat wallet. Actually i think thats 2x t2 poly carbs estamel bcu and cn launchers
Dibsi Dei Salamyhkaisten kilta	Posted - 2008.07.19 12:40:00 - [46] Originally by: ViRUS Pottage Snakes - about 1bil where
Evil Edna FIRMA	Posted - 2008.07.19 13:22:00 - [47] the total cost of this setup varies depending on current snake and t2 poly prices, but its anywhere between 6 and 7 billion for the whole lot
Arte AFK	Posted - 2008.07.19 15:06:00 - [48] Mate, power to you to be able to spend money like that. I don't quite 'get' the hate from some of the replies in this thread, none from me, if I had the funds I'd do the same tbh... one day when I'm a big boy... hehe Do you fly with gang mates with skirmish mods for a boost too? Anyone ever offered you a 1v1 and gave you a scare/beaten you? (did watch the vid, but a while ago)
Shigsy The Golden Goat	Posted - 2008.07.19 19:29:00 - [49] One sure way to beat this setup is to use a drake!
Della Bell Minmatar	Posted - 2008.07.19 21:09:00 - [50] Wouldn't the fit be better with a Mizuro or Gotan web? Nice setup all the same.
Mag's MASS	Posted - 2008.07.19 21:12:00 - [51] Originally by: Shigsy One sure way to beat this setup is to use a drake! Mag's Originally by: Avernus One of these days, the realization that MASS is no longer significant will catch up with you.
skuko Caldari	Posted - 2008.07.19 22:22:00 - [52] Originally by: JS LiamElms ... but flying around in a pimped to high heaven crow makes no sense to claim superiority unless you face equally pimped. That was my point.... this is a load of crap dude...he/she(edna) can imho claim superiority over anyone he has a killmail from...if he has put this setup together and flies it in pvp, then so be it. you build a taranis like that and put him down, don't build theories here :) EFT warrior ftl
Grarr Dexx Amarr Naval Protection Corp Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.07.20 00:41:00 - [53] Originally by: Reginvalt Edited by: Reginvalt on 19/07/2008 10:15:53 h8 crows. If u want kill noobs in lowsec, buy a crow. Quality post, AAA++++. Would read again.
Arazel Chainfire The first genesis Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2008.07.20 03:22:00 - [54] Originally by: Della Bell Wouldn't the fit be better with a Mizuro or Gotan web? Nice setup all the same. Officer webs take about 1000pg or so - would be awsome on say, a kronos (90% 40km web anyone - note, i believe that the best officer web only gives about 80% or so webbing) but can't really fit on anything smaller than a battleship - I think they did that to prevent 150km webbing rapiers... Also, the last domi web I saw was for around 200mil or so - haven't checked for the scram though but expect it to be around 30 mil or more. Originally by: Mag's Originally by: Shigsy One sure way to beat this setup is to use a drake! /me agrees with this statment -Arazel Originally by: Tsanse Kinske Mutual Incomprehension is one of the Four Horsemen of most internet arguments, I guess, along with Unfettered Hostility, Overwhelming Vagueness, and Lack of Evidence.

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