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Felizardo
Caldari Imperial House Ordos
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Posted - 2008.07.17 01:16:00 -
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Ok, in militia¦s war, i ask what¦s the logic of a station to accept a hostile militia¦s pilot to dock there and stay safe?
I¦ve seen a lot of this. Your faction stations safely preserve your hostiles safe in there. It¦s not logic. CCP fix this please...
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Tiger313
313th Squadron
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Posted - 2008.07.17 01:23:00 -
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lol I'm not into FW but that does sound a bit dubious if you ask me... 
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Felizardo
Caldari Imperial House Ordos
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Posted - 2008.07.17 01:28:00 -
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it¦s not dubious... it¦s hilarious 
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Synapse Archae
Amarr Demonic Retribution Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.07.17 01:29:00 -
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This is why I don't join FW. Station games are worse than sov warfare, and thats saying a lot. - - - Originally by: CCP Garthagk While these forums may not give you everything that you want, they will usually let you post.
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Siddy
Minmatar Gay Nationalist Association of Amamake
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Posted - 2008.07.17 01:36:00 -
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Edited by: Siddy on 17/07/2008 01:36:39 make it simpple:
Minmatar hold the system only minmatar and gallente can dock. + militia
amarr hold the system only amarr and caldari can dock + militia
everyon is happy, FW get some meaning in important systems.
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Synapse Archae
Amarr Demonic Retribution Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.07.17 01:38:00 -
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Would be nice if taking a system in FW had any beneficial effect at all, TBH. - - - Originally by: CCP Garthagk While these forums may not give you everything that you want, they will usually let you post.
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Felizardo
Caldari Imperial House Ordos
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Posted - 2008.07.17 01:44:00 -
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Originally by: Siddy Edited by: Siddy on 17/07/2008 01:36:39 make it simpple:
Minmatar hold the system only minmatar and gallente can dock. + militia
amarr hold the system only amarr and caldari can dock + militia
everyone is happy, FW get some meaning in important systems.
Yup that would be a solution. I mean i do understand a neutral from any race can dock everywhere. ofc... but a militia¦s hostile pilot??
Do Amarr servants will provide the minmatar militia¦s pilot cookies and milk in "walking in stations" while he waits his enemies get out of front of the station?
Now, an hostile can dock in war contestable systems and.... everywhere! non contestable high sec, low sec ...what a hell were they thinking about...
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voorsk
Sten Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.17 13:11:00 -
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Edited by: voorsk on 17/07/2008 13:12:56 Perhaps the logic is that having the militia pilot in the station is better than having him somewhere else, blowing up your stuff.
CONCORD allow outlaws to dock in their stations, too, which is a similar oddity.. when I was a naughy pirate, our home station was a CONCORD station. Hiding right where they least expected to find us, obviously. 
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Neth'Rae
Gallente Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.17 13:25:00 -
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Edited by: Neth''Rae on 17/07/2008 13:29:56 I remember asking a dev this on the test server, I don't remember whom but he said he agreed and had been trying to pursuade the other devs aswell but I guess the others were carebears 
I also remember someone asking if there would be any rewards of capturing a system and the answer was "capturing a system gives you that system, that's the reward" But honestly, that's just a token reward since it doesn't really do anything. There's no real benefit.
Originally by: voorsk CONCORD allow outlaws to dock in their stations, too, which is a similar oddity.. when I was a naughy pirate, our home station was a CONCORD station. Hiding right where they least expected to find us, obviously. 
Concord doesn't have any authority in lowsec but I guess they should have in their stations, but it might be some kind of amnesty rule.
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Jmanis Catharg
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.07.17 13:41:00 -
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Quote: Ok, in militia¦s war, i ask what¦s the logic of a station to accept a hostile militia¦s pilot to dock there and stay safe?
The same logic that allows the 10-spawn-capped Navy NPCs to target a neutral (read: not part of FW) they simply don't like preferentially over opposing militia pilots.  ---
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Kade Jeekin
Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2008.07.17 14:16:00 -
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This issue has been around a long time. ie pilots with bad standings to station owner's faction, or even corp, being able to dock. FW has just highlighted the issue for a new crop of players.
CCP's normal response has been that they'd love to do it, they've even talked about moving, for example, Gallente stations out of Caldari space, but the ramifications are too hard for too many players. So, they back off.
Think about it. All those people with assets in Angel, Caldari etc stations being unable to access them.
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Belatu Cadro
Minmatar Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2008.07.17 14:42:00 -
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Originally by: Kade Jeekin This issue has been around a long time. ie pilots with bad standings to station owner's faction, or even corp, being able to dock. FW has just highlighted the issue for a new crop of players.
CCP's normal response has been that they'd love to do it, they've even talked about moving, for example, Gallente stations out of Caldari space, but the ramifications are too hard for too many players. So, they back off.
Think about it. All those people with assets in Angel, Caldari etc stations being unable to access them.
CCP would have to be very brave to make their world that dark and dangerous...
This is where InterBus would come in, you get banned from access to a certain factions stations, if you have any assets there, you can pay InterBus to move it for you.
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Kruntologist
Red Eye .Inc. Rare Faction
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Posted - 2008.07.17 14:49:00 -
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This is particularly interesting given if what I've read is true that you can't cloak in enemy faction space..
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Neth'Rae
Gallente Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.17 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: Kruntologist This is particularly interesting given if what I've read is true that you can't cloak in enemy faction space..
I thought that was just enemy faction high-sec? :o
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Amberly Coteaz
Amarr The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2008.07.17 15:18:00 -
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Well if they changed it so you could only dock in a pod at a hostile militia station, there would be no trouble getting your assets out of a hostile station but an absolute pain to get anything in.
If you find yourself in a fair fight, something has gone wrong
Originally by: Patch86 OK people, Amberly Coteaz has won life for the time being. Everyone go home and wait for the round reset.[/quote
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Alora Venoda
GalTech Giant Space Amoeba
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Posted - 2008.07.17 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: Neth'Rae
Originally by: Kruntologist This is particularly interesting given if what I've read is true that you can't cloak in enemy faction space..
I thought that was just enemy faction high-sec? :o
i believe it's due to the faction NPCs attacking you, even if cloaked... or does a cloak simply not work and give an error message? ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ Take away the risk and it would make flying around in space utterly pointless.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.07.17 17:12:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 17/07/2008 17:13:34
Originally by: Alora Venoda
Originally by: Neth'Rae
Originally by: Kruntologist This is particularly interesting given if what I've read is true that you can't cloak in enemy faction space..
I thought that was just enemy faction high-sec? :o
i believe it's due to the faction NPCs attacking you, even if cloaked... or does a cloak simply not work and give an error message?
You cant cloak, you get a message about the navy interfering with your systems or similar, even when they are not anywhere close. This is if you have a negative standing to them so they want to pop you.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2008.08.17 15:27:00 -
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ccp isnt prepared for all the implications of clones - taxes and agents if stations of foreign control start dying Trashed sig, Shark was here |
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