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Herman Klaus Touched By Klaus 41	Posted - 2012.03.17 13:52:00 - [1] - Quote As we know the drop rates for Intact Plates and a couple of other high priced salvage items have increased, thus bringing the prices down. But... It seems some of the lower valued items are now rising sharply, are these lower priced items actually gonna become the new IAP and jump up to 30m etc? It makes interesting viewing, especially as someone has totally bought up a few of these items. :TINFOILHATMODE: The CSM and the super powers with people on the inside are stocking up now in preparation for a sharp increase in prices because they know the new drop rate means for these items there are reduced drops.
Skydell Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums 177	Posted - 2012.03.17 16:53:00 - [2] - Quote I'm not sure what ones are spiking. I've been tracking T2 salvage for a very long time. Everything seems in line in Jita anyway. I don't use any kind of spreadsheet, uber perfect methods. I just check daily, keep mental notes and while it's not super efficient or going to help me "win EVE" it gets the job done. More to your point though, If there was a buyout, these are the options I can think of - - Someone saw a chance to corner the market and did - Someone got info on a patch - Someone noticed with the last shuffle of belt rats, T2 spawns took a dive The thing right now is, aside from small astronautics rigs there aren't any that I would say justify the cost. PvP ships are going to die, we have all come to accept that so anything below a capital doesn't justify a T2 rig even at cheaper rates. That leaves PvE fits and they all still require 20 mill plus in parts to make. While supply is up, right now there is still no demand for T2 rigs or salvage as a result. If this was an insider info trade, summer expack is coming. Nothing is impossible.
Kara Books Deal with IT. 92	Posted - 2012.03.18 00:34:00 - [3] - Quote Herman Klaus wrote: As we know the drop rates for Intact Plates and a couple of other high priced salvage items have increased, thus bringing the prices down. But... It seems some of the lower valued items are now rising sharply, are these lower priced items actually gonna become the new IAP and jump up to 30m etc? It makes interesting viewing, especially as someone has totally bought up a few of these items. :TINFOILHATMODE: The CSM and the super powers with people on the inside are stocking up now in preparation for a sharp increase in prices because they know the new drop rate means for these items there are reduced drops. Intelligent question, Yet, I still grapple onto my tinfoil hat.
Lord Jita Lord Jita's Big Gay Corp 27	Posted - 2012.03.18 02:34:00 - [4] - Quote YES I have noticed this, have been very perplexed. I was sure after crucible the prices would drop across the board due to the "increased salvage from t2 wrecks" patch note, but the opposite has largely happened. Power circuits have jumped from 1m to almost 6m. I had a large stock of current pumps I dumped at 30k, and now they are up to 118k. I really am at a loss of what is going on. Well maybe its just that due to incursion more people have ISK to spend on T2 rigs.
Herman Klaus Touched By Klaus 42	Posted - 2012.03.18 03:18:00 - [5] - Quote Lord Jita wrote: YES I have noticed this, have been very perplexed. I was sure after crucible the prices would drop across the board due to the "increased salvage from t2 wrecks" patch note, but the opposite has largely happened. Power circuits have jumped from 1m to almost 6m. I had a large stock of current pumps I dumped at 30k, and now they are up to 118k. I really am at a loss of what is going on. Well maybe its just that due to incursion more people have ISK to spend on T2 rigs. And intact plate drop due to the supercarrier nerf so less demand. First of all, I love your Avatar. It just makes me smile, haha. This a very valid point. Capacitor Console's have remained high but IAP and the T2 shield ones have definately dropped. Might be SC Nerf related. Still, the jump on some of the lower items is quite substantial.
Maeste Madeveda The Spawning Pool Team Liquid 6	Posted - 2012.03.18 11:02:00 - [6] - Quote What if people realized that T2 rigs aren't that bad if you can afford it.
Herman Klaus Touched By Klaus 42	Posted - 2012.03.19 09:17:00 - [7] - Quote Well it looks like someone bought up all the cheap stock from elsewhere in eve and dumped it in Jita. Back to civilised prices now. Still an increase on 4 weeks ago tho. missile and drone rigs are going ro rise noticeably.
Herman Klaus Touched By Klaus 44	Posted - 2012.03.27 21:46:00 - [8] - Quote UPDATE: Another jump in price across a few items. Buy prices up 10-15% on a couple of them. Noticing the amount available on the market isn't enough to satisfy daily demand. Defo been a shift in drop tables. The shiny flying carebears will notice the most over time.
Skydell Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums 193	Posted - 2012.03.29 05:07:00 - [9] - Quote Herman Klaus wrote: UPDATE: Another jump in price across a few items. Buy prices up 10-15% on a couple of them. Noticing the amount available on the market isn't enough to satisfy daily demand. Defo been a shift in drop tables. The shiny flying carebears will notice the most over time. Micro Circuits Logic Circuits ANN's? That would be me. Medium Particle Dispersion Projector II Extends Ewar optimals to 70 km for a Lachesis 103 km for Pilgrim and Curse, respective to thier ewar. That means you can put a gun boat at 45% tracking speed and keep your tactical Logi off the primary list. Nothing to do with carebears
Herman Klaus Touched By Klaus 44	Posted - 2012.03.29 12:28:00 - [10] - Quote Skydell wrote: Herman Klaus wrote: UPDATE: Another jump in price across a few items. Buy prices up 10-15% on a couple of them. Noticing the amount available on the market isn't enough to satisfy daily demand. Defo been a shift in drop tables. The shiny flying carebears will notice the most over time. Micro Circuits Logic Circuits ANN's? That would be me. Medium Particle Dispersion Projector II Extends Ewar optimals to 70 km for a Lachesis 103 km for Pilgrim and Curse, respective to thier ewar. That means you can put a gun boat at 45% tracking speed and keep your tactical Logi off the primary list. Nothing to do with carebears And there is that too. you evil bunny

Mathias Hex Hillcrest Armaments 18	Posted - 2012.03.30 00:18:00 - [11] - Quote Lord Jita wrote: YES I have noticed this, have been very perplexed. I was sure after crucible the prices would drop across the board due to the "increased salvage from t2 wrecks" patch note, but the opposite has largely happened. Power circuits have jumped from 1m to almost 6m. I had a large stock of current pumps I dumped at 30k, and now they are up to 118k. I really am at a loss of what is going on. Well maybe its just that due to incursion more people have ISK to spend on T2 rigs. And intact plate drop due to the supercarrier nerf so less demand. Well hello there little pup! Have you been outcathst? I recall one night in a nightclub called the matrix, there I was... Mother of god there I am! Holy f**k.
Herman Klaus Touched By Klaus 44	Posted - 2012.04.01 21:58:00 - [12] - Quote Interface Circuits Power Circuits Logic Circuits All flying up in price. There was a levelling out when people dumped their stocks but we're past that now and onto the next spike. Too late to invest?
Skydell Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums 194	Posted - 2012.04.02 02:05:00 - [13] - Quote I don't think it's a demand spike, I think the supply is in decline. I asked twice and got 0 replies about the RnG on Elite spawns after they shuffled the way rats spawn. While they seemed to have fixed the bottleneck on Cap consoles and Intact stuff, they have crushed the PvE method of getting T2 salvage. It might have been allocated to PvP reward goods meaning that these things are all about to go rare. True Sansha, Domination, Shadow Serpentis, Dark Blood and Dread Guristas are still in the game but they are no where near where they used to be in spawning. The only other place to get T2 salvage is player wrecks. I'm just speculating because as I said, no reply was given when I asked about the 95% drop in Elite spawns ratio.
Herman Klaus Touched By Klaus 44	Posted - 2012.04.02 12:04:00 - [14] - Quote I've noticed this actually. Plus when I've found elite spawns, the salvage has been rubbish. So CCP have fixed a bottleneck by creating another. standard stuff then!
Skydell Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums 194	Posted - 2012.04.03 19:46:00 - [15] - Quote Most bottlenecks right now is market saturation and lack of market saturation. Many of the parts are universal, many are core. The saturations are there due to low demand. Looking at calibration cost, looking at the ships the rigs are suited to, T2 rigs are just not mainstream and I don't think CCP wanted them to be with all the pre-nerfs in place. It's a high end, niche market and I guess if I am going to enter it I need to deal with that.
Aloe Cloveris The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple 95	Posted - 2012.04.04 10:00:00 - [16] - Quote Someone mentioned a thing about the Drone Matriarchs (or one of those drone bosses ... idk, never do drone anoms myself) no longer dropping T2 salvage after a recent patch and that Power Circuits were one of the most common salvage drops up until that patch. Considering how, uh, 'dedicated' the harvesters of all things drone in certain regions were, they kept power circuit prices nice and agreeable. On the bright side, at least Serpentis mag sites aren't completely worthless anymore.
Skydell Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums 201	Posted - 2012.04.04 13:19:00 - [17] - Quote I found my first Shadow in a .7 belt since the shuffle and he dropped a Power Circuit ironicly enough. So they are still in the belts, it's just a matter of figuring out what ratting patterns they want from us now. I never really figured out the reason why those spiked but that's as good a reason as any. As I said in another thread, these things are never rare as you can take any Interceptor under 14 mill, insure it and jet it in to space with a carrier and pop it with drones for the salvage and make ISK from it. The fact that nobody is doing it simply says there is no demand for t2 rigs. Due to penalty, due to calibration restrictions, due to steep diminishing returns on the bonus and on some, due to cost. The point is, they aren't popular.
Herman Klaus Touched By Klaus 44	Posted - 2012.04.04 14:11:00 - [18] - Quote Skydell wrote: I found my first Shadow in a .7 belt since the shuffle and he dropped a Power Circuit ironicly enough. So they are still in the belts, it's just a matter of figuring out what ratting patterns they want from us now. I never really figured out the reason why those spiked but that's as good a reason as any. As I said in another thread, these things are never rare as you can take any Interceptor under 14 mill, insure it and jet it in to space with a carrier and pop it with drones for the salvage and make ISK from it. The fact that nobody is doing it simply says there is no demand for t2 rigs. Due to penalty, due to calibration restrictions, due to steep diminishing returns on the bonus and on some, due to cost. The point is, they aren't popular. Rich kids with too much ISK will always want more shiny bits on their fail fit ships.
Yamadori Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.04.06 20:02:00 - [19] - Quote and now interface circuits wth is up
Yamadori Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.04.08 21:34:00 - [20] - Quote Holy fukc prices are totally out of wack now. Not only interface circuits and logic circuits. I 'm wondering why this doesn't gather more attention. I have have to assume everyone involved is playing their cards close to their chest.

Ioci Bad Girl Posse 106	Posted - 2012.04.09 02:37:00 - [21] - Quote Micro, Logic, Interface, anything with a green chip is a universal ingredient. Control those the other stuff becomes junk. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg-_HeVNYOk Save Derpy!
Herman Klaus Touched By Klaus 46	Posted - 2012.04.10 14:11:00 - [22] - Quote When i started this thread I expected a pickup in a few products and bought in then sold out. I Cant believe the increases keep coming. It is clear that these items are in short supply. I mean as an example; Interface Circuits have seen an increase off 400% and i dont think its going to stop. There aren't even enough on the markets throughout eve to satisfy demand so they will keep going up. I wouldn't be surprised if they hit 1m/pu by may. Power Circuits are doing well also, getting held down currently by small sell orders tho. Wouldn't be surprised to see them brake 10m
Skydell Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums 210	Posted - 2012.04.10 16:34:00 - [23] - Quote Interface and Micro are used in the infamous Hellcat fit and I expect them to keep moving untill the markets catch up. Years of bottlenecking has created gluts on specific parts. Untill we start to see what is actually being looted it will be hard to know what the stuff is worth. T2 Salvage is alot like Dog Tags. People simply could never bring themselves to get rid of it due to the rare nature, so it has been accumulating for years and years. We will eventually see what it's all going to be worth but only in time.
Yamadori Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.04.10 17:09:00 - [24] - Quote I'm sorry but what the hell are you blabbing about ? These have very clearly been market manipulations . There might very well have been a slight bottleneck/undersupply on the market as well .... but nothing of of this sort. 400% increase doesn't even come close to some of the prices that have skyrocketed. Specifically the interface circuits you mentioned are up to 370.000 from 2000.
Herman Klaus Touched By Klaus 46	Posted - 2012.04.10 19:33:00 - [25] - Quote Yamadori wrote: I'm sorry but what the hell are you blabbing about ? These have very clearly been market manipulations . There might very well have been a slight bottleneck/undersupply on the market as well .... but nothing of of this sort. 400% increase doesn't even come close to some of the prices that have skyrocketed. Specifically the interface circuits you mentioned are up to 370.000 from 2000. Err no! Missed the boat have you?
Skydell Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums 210	Posted - 2012.04.10 22:52:00 - [26] - Quote Yamadori wrote: I'm sorry but what the hell are you blabbing about ? These have very clearly been market manipulations . There might very well have been a slight bottleneck/undersupply on the market as well .... but nothing of of this sort. 400% increase doesn't even come close to some of the prices that have skyrocketed. Specifically the interface circuits you mentioned are up to 370.000 from 2000. There was never a demand for tertiary parts because there was a bottleneck on certain key parts. Now that the bottlenecks are freed up, all the parts are being bought cheap that can be. It isn't manipulation, it's smart shopping. If the bottlenecks are fixed the parts to make T2 rigs will in time all be priced around the same because the parts are needed on even numbers. Large Energy Discharge Elutriation T2 with a -4 bpc. 6 Current Pump 18 Interface circuit 18 Micro Circuit If drops are balanced, Micro Circuits and interface circuits should in time end up costing the same. Current pumps will always be cheaper because they tend to drop as much or more than the other 2 and there will always be more available than we need. Right now, Interface circuits are skightly over priced but Micro circuits are horribly under priced. Both will correct themselves in time.
Hemmo Paskiainen Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities 319	Posted - 2012.04.13 00:49:00 - [27] - Quote its part of ccp new stealth nerf. they are slowly making normal faction candy more expensive. this increased price is a indicator of less salvaged commander wrecks. ether players dont salvage & loot them anymore or less is spawning CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS
Sisohiv Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 50	Posted - 2012.04.13 00:54:00 - [28] - Quote Hemmo Paskiainen wrote: its part of ccp new stealth nerf. they are slowly making normal faction candy more expensive. this increased price is a indicator of less salvaged commander wrecks. ether players dont salvage & loot them anymore or less is spawning No. There was a decline in Commander spawns just after they chuffled the spawning system. It has returned though. They actually increased T2 salvage. Before that it was pretty much a capital, super capital only thing to use T2 Rigs. Now that the drops are balanced on all parts for the most part, the demand has gone beyond multi billion ISK fits and we are seeing real demand rather than bottleneck parts prices.
Herman Klaus Touched By Klaus 47	Posted - 2012.04.16 11:10:00 - [29] - Quote Looks like we've peaked. that was a nice little earner whilst it lasted but prices are starting to drop now.
Skydell Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums 214	Posted - 2012.04.16 22:42:00 - [30] - Quote Herman Klaus wrote: Looks like we've peaked. that was a nice little earner whilst it lasted but prices are starting to drop now. Untill Inferno comes out and Dust is established I'd see all markets as manipulated, even this one. Sell offs will benefit people like me because I'm doing it for all the wrong reasons but maybe in time my ISK sinking will pay off. I guess we will see.

Etharion Calthon Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.04.18 08:21:00 - [31] - Quote Evening! Finally someone wants to discuss this mess. Ive been producing T2 rigs for several years and I'm usually the only producer in the whole Galaxy on some rigs. The steep increase in prices ESPECIALLY power circuits seems to be a combined market manip and a general decrease in supply. CCP promised player wrecks would drop more....it hasn't happened. I have salvaged a few hundred player wrecks since the change...they FAILED. I salvaged a Tengu wreck the other day and got two Conductive Thermoplastic and METAL SCRAPS. WTF CCP! Metal Scraps from a Tengu? Also, commander spawns seem to be more frequent but FFS I get tons and tons of T1 salvage from them. I URGED CCP to make a T2 drop from commanders mandatory...simple table. If you got a drop, you got at least 1 piece of T2. But no.... If they really want T2 rigs to come down...power circuits have GOT to come down. I just don't see it happening. The suggestion of blowing up insured T2 works..somewhat..Ive blown up nearly 50b in T2 ships in Jita for salvage and its pretty much a break even proposition. The RNG is just too random...and you can really take a bath if you go too crazy. And you dont use a carrier, you use your old buddy Orca. The ME: 0 blueprints in all sizes have helped out the rig market somewhat...but most people are grossly overpricing their copies. I have my doubts about CCP interfering here since they seem content to let prices on almost everything float upwards to sink more ISK. I guess we will see. I also seriously doubt there is much loose T2 salvage floating in hangars. The high prices and immediate access to market data virtually ensures all T2 salvage gets to market rapidly. Again, this is going to be a wait-and-see proposition. -- EC
Skydell Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums 221	Posted - 2012.04.20 04:02:00 - [32] - Quote Have to agree, something new went down under the hood. I have salvaged around 12 Commander spawns in 3 days and my salvage from them is 0. No T1, no T2, no salvage. I've said before, RNG in EVE is, uncontested, hands down the most punishing, unrewarding in any MMO I have ever played. In the course of 7 years I have killed thousands of T2 commanders and I have gotten 2 blueprints, both Daredevils. One I took from a miners abandoned Shadow kill. The tags are trash, the ammo is always 40%, 60% ranged. It's like finding a chunk of gravel shaped like a button. Rare, unique but still just worthless gravel. My tests on Farming T2 salvage were done in a 3 rig Noctis with Salvage 5 and I can tell you, avoid anything but Amarr just because they are the only ones that drop Intact armor and Cap consoles on a regular basis. I don't know what CCP are doing in this department any more and I don't know if I care at this point.
Dmw882 Licentia Ex Vereor Intrepid Crossing 1	Posted - 2012.04.20 10:54:00 - [33] - Quote CCP starts to fix botting --> bots can be programmed to do certain things like salvage wrecks with "dread guristas" in their name --> salvage prices increase --> ???
Skydell Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums 222	Posted - 2012.04.20 15:46:00 - [34] - Quote Dmw882 wrote: CCP starts to fix botting --> bots can be programmed to do certain things like salvage wrecks with "dread guristas" in their name --> salvage prices increase --> ??? That would be true "if" but that isn't what's happening. ANN's prices are down, volume is through the roof. Current Pump prices are static, volume is up. Micro Curcuit prices are down Interface circuits, Logic Circuits, Power circuits are all up in price but volumes are as well. That's market manipulation. Add to that the salvage rates are down in certain spots. I'm actually going to speculate and say most of this stuff comes from Faction War, not macro farming in null. The same with the tags.
Master Domai Germaniacs 0	Posted - 2012.04.20 23:44:00 - [35] - Quote remember the old sting song "its probably me"? i just returned from bittervetting and restarted my olde t2 rig productions. btw anyone wanna buy? just mail me.


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