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AMF2
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Posted - 2008.07.20 12:20:00 -
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Yea when I 1st warped whit my BC and saw how many BS,BC,HAS etc were there I immediately warped home to mommy.And so I'm asking can a Megathron whit: 6 x 420 rails,2 x heavy assault ML,medium and light scout drones T2,3 x exp and 2 x knt AH,tracking computer whit tracking scrip,shadow serp LAR, 3 cap rechargers T2, a GL navy MFS and 3 x 15% cap recharge rings do the job whit out the help of wing mate?
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justsometrader
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Posted - 2008.07.20 12:57:00 -
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no you NEED a carrier, thats why it is called BONUS room
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Blue Disk
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Posted - 2008.07.20 14:02:00 -
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That's good to know. But nothing in the term "BONUS room" implies the word carrier. I don't think it was obvious.
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Arous Drephius
Alpha Research Group
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Posted - 2008.07.20 14:09:00 -
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Send me 10 million and EVEMail me with the mission system and I'll go help you. --
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Dzajic
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Posted - 2008.07.20 14:14:00 -
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I did L3 AE bonus room with 10m SP in T1 fitted Domi with Ogres and 4x350mm. If I had better tank skills or that disgusting passive shield tank, could have done it in Myrm.
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Ivanauskas
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Posted - 2008.07.20 14:15:00 -
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OMG, you find the bonus room too hard to do in a BC? Well... You told us you warped to your Mommy - I advice you to ask her for some training or some genetical improvement.
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syphurous
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.07.21 00:01:00 -
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I did this the other night in my Ishtar, kited till it was only the BS left, then just stopped and popped out my ogre II's. Killed the tower sentry last, as I stayed 80km away from it at all times.
I think I had 80% explo / therm / kin resists. Never got below 90% armor. Most people will read this thinking it's part of my post, when its actually my sig :P
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Pteranodon
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Posted - 2008.07.21 10:00:00 -
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I did the level 4 bonus room last night with members of my Corp.
The Drake went in first & got all the agro-the whole room!
We took a fully passive Drake tank, 2 Dominix & 1 typhoon. I have battle cruiser 5 for the drake & my other Character very hard armor skills. The Drake has 15.5K shields, 4 shield power relays & 2 large shield extenders (with +8 shield implants). It was fitted for Kinetic, Thermal & Explosive. It kited the whole room-orbiting at 12K whilst the other ships dealt with the agro using Warden2, Ogre 2 & Hammerhead2.
This was a very satisfying mission-The level of gank on the drake really tested those shields as I stayed close & did not run-probably got down to 30% or less shields at one point but quickly recovered. I would anticipate that one ship-if it stayed close to the main agro would be in trouble if you did not run & gank.
The level 4 of this mission, bonus room, offers plenty of opportunity to find out how hard your tank really is. The concensus from my colleagues was we were glad we did it.
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Pteranodon
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Posted - 2008.07.21 11:02:00 -
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Originally by: justsometrader no you NEED a carrier, thats why it is called BONUS room
it's either a troll or your a plonker!
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el M
Caldari Romanian Space Explorer
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Posted - 2008.07.21 11:21:00 -
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Edited by: el M on 21/07/2008 11:22:31
Originally by: Pteranodon I did the level 4 bonus room last night with members of my Corp.
The Drake went in first & got all the agro-the whole room!
We took a fully passive Drake tank...
We use a passive drake (lvl 3 BC) 2 SPRs 2BCUs with 5% shield capacity and recharge implants. A caldary navy invul (rest t2 tank) ... It gets full room aggro and starts calling targets based on level of threat (distance, cruisers and bc first)... The CNR ,1400mm Maelstorm and Drake then quickly reduce the amount of dps. Done it twice this way .. guess 3 SPRs would take a bit off the adrenaline away . 4 SPSs would be overkill ... You sure they don't deal heavy EM damage on bonus room and you had low EM resist there ?
BTW this thread is about the lvl 3 AE bonus ... :)mission ----------------- aspiring carebear |
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Pteranodon
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Posted - 2008.07.21 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: el M Edited by: el M on 21/07/2008 11:22:31
Originally by: Pteranodon I did the level 4 bonus room last night with members of my Corp.
The Drake went in first & got all the agro-the whole room!
We took a fully passive Drake tank...
We use a passive drake (lvl 3 BC) 2 SPRs 2BCUs with 5% shield capacity and recharge implants. A caldary navy invul (rest t2 tank) ... It gets full room aggro and starts calling targets based on level of threat (distance, cruisers and bc first)... The CNR ,1400mm Maelstorm and Drake then quickly reduce the amount of dps. Done it twice this way .. guess 3 SPRs would take a bit off the adrenaline away . 4 SPSs would be overkill ... You sure they don't deal heavy EM damage on bonus room and you had low EM resist there ?
BTW this thread is about the lvl 3 AE bonus ... :)mission
I was aware that this thread is level 3. The tank for the level 4 was not overkill-maybe for the level3. Anything less than this tank in the level4 & you will melt. I kited at 12K & my tank barely held-might have been better if I aligned & ran.
The tank had no EM hardener-relying on the 25% from the natural resists at BC5. There is a bit of EM in the room but the majority damage is explosive, kinetic & thermal mostly so I amplified for these resists.
The level 4 bonus room is a nightmare as your getting every type of damage melting you. It would be quite daunting if you were doing this alone or for the first time even with 3 friends as I had. I don't consider my skills bad either so it was quite an experience-level4 at its worse! or best
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el M
Caldari Romanian Space Explorer
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Posted - 2008.07.21 13:21:00 -
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Data from eve-survival forums:
DPS value of Bonus room (based on ships I got, excluding reinforcement): Total DPS: 2,296.08hp/s (EM: 1,193hp/s, Expl: 740.97hp/s, Kin: 173.73hp/s, Therm: 188.38hp/s)
Bonus pocket raw DPS is somewhere in the neighborhood of: (maybe somewhat less than this if you don't choose the most damaging ship types) Total DPS: 3,454.88hp/s (EM: 2,350hp/s, Expl: 802.50hp/s, Kin: 186.53hp/s, Therm: 115.85hp/s)
If this is true anyone using just 25% EM resits in that room will be in trouble... ----------------- aspiring carebear |
Pteranodon
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Posted - 2008.07.21 14:38:00 -
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Edited by: Pteranodon on 21/07/2008 14:39:45
Originally by: el M Data from eve-survival forums:
DPS value of Bonus room (based on ships I got, excluding reinforcement): Total DPS: 2,296.08hp/s (EM: 1,193hp/s, Expl: 740.97hp/s, Kin: 173.73hp/s, Therm: 188.38hp/s)
Bonus pocket raw DPS is somewhere in the neighborhood of: (maybe somewhat less than this if you don't choose the most damaging ship types) Total DPS: 3,454.88hp/s (EM: 2,350hp/s, Expl: 802.50hp/s, Kin: 186.53hp/s, Therm: 115.85hp/s)
If this is true anyone using just 25% EM resits in that room will be in trouble...
Remember that the relative EM damage compared to everything else is low even if it looks high at a standalone level. I took the gamble that as I had friends with me who could give good damage really quick I had sufficent shield buffer to last. 15K+ shield on a passive Drake with 3 Core Defence rigs & 4 SPR2 is quiet a powerful tank. If I would have tanked for EM I know I would have significantly increased the damage being received & would have melted. We Had 20 combat drones in the mix, 5 Warden 2, 5 Ogre 2, 5 Hammer2 & 5 Valkrie 1 (from my Drake). The Wardens are cracking they took out the cruise towers at 100K+- this was a great mission.
Edit: your EM damage figure is not right. I think EM is far lower.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.21 14:49:00 -
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Originally by: el M Bonus pocket raw DPS is somewhere in the neighborhood of: (maybe somewhat less than this if you don't choose the most damaging ship types) Total DPS: 3,454.88hp/s (EM: 2,350hp/s, Expl: 802.50hp/s, Kin: 186.53hp/s, Therm: 115.85hp/s)
That can't possibly be right... somebody gravely miscalculated that. They must have confused NPC volley damages with NPC DPS values or somesuch. AFAIK, it's more like 200 EM, 1000 EXP, 250 KIN and 250 TH (very roughly).
But then again, I might be wrong... oh well.
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THE APPRENTICE || mineral balance || nanofix
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Yevgeny Bazarov
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2008.07.21 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Dzajic I did L3 AE bonus room with 10m SP in T1 fitted Domi with Ogres and 4x350mm. If I had better tank skills or that disgusting passive shield tank, could have done it in Myrm.
Done with 2m sp in t1 fitted drake with disgusting passive shield tank. Kited everything, shields stabilized at around 40%.
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Forge Lag
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Posted - 2008.07.21 23:11:00 -
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L3?
Did in Vexor while I was on trial I think or shortly after. Was tense and took ages though. Speaking of bonus room ofc.
L4?
Tbh since they nerfed loot I am skipping it, it is all nice money but AE is already long and I would need to refit. Single LAR Domi can do it but needs warpout and all the warping back is boring.
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X'Alor
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Posted - 2008.07.22 21:27:00 -
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cerb and navy scourge works fine for me.
actually a bit too easy on the lvl 3.
but then again i dont mind taking 5'000 missles out and solo lvl 4's with it either.
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Dzajic
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Posted - 2008.07.23 07:11:00 -
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How in name of have you done L3 AE in a Vexor? Release drones and burn away and kite the entire stage? I remember trying L3 missions in Vexor, tried several missions with non missile rats, did them easily, first one with missile spewing rats almost cost me my Vex.
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