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pietplaat Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.07.21 12:05:00 - [1] Edited by: pietplaat on 21/07/2008 12:07:41 Edited by: pietplaat on 21/07/2008 12:05:52 Greetings, My question is would it be usefull to crosstrain for a drake? I have bc at lvl 5 and I have only skills for matari ships. Also have shield and armor skills (active) at max. I did read a lot of the drake and like the resistance bonus on it. It would take about 22 days to train to drake include training some missile skills a bit higher. It will be mostly used for missions and maby later pvp. And what kind of setup would u use for pve? I was working to something like this, what do you think of it? [Drake, pve] Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Capacitor Flux Coil II Co-Processor II Large Shield Booster II Photon Scattering Field II Heat Dissipation Field II Ballistic Deflection Field II Cap Recharger II Invulnerability Field II Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile [empty high slot] Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I Thanks!
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.07.21 12:10:00 - [2] Horrible. Active Drakes for PvE. Ungh. Just train Shield Upgrades level 4 and Advanced Weapon Upgrades level 4. Get a CPU implant (slot 6) to help fit "all T2". You may use best named T1 for similar results. Use 3 purger rigs. Fit 2xSPR, 2xBCU, 2x LSE-II, 4x active mission-specific hardeners. _ THE APPRENTICE \|\| mineral balance \|\| nanofix
Pteranodon	Posted - 2008.07.21 12:18:00 - [3] The Drake is not a gank ship so I would spec it for maximum resists & use it as a level 4 mission tank. It will kill nicely upto to level 3 missions but you will suffer lack of damage in the majority of level4 missions as not every rat has Kinectic as the weakest resist. The Drake is a shield tank ship so you will need to look at a fit which will enhance the shield operation. I fly a fully passive Drake & is great for missions like new Horizons with heavy neut towers. I got a bit obsessed with making the tank the best it could be but it paid off last night when I was able to tank the whole of AE level 4 bonus room for my corp mates. The setup was Lows 4 Tec2 Shield Power Relay Mids 4 tec2 passive shield amplifiers (suit to mission) 2 Large Shield Extenders Highs Fill with Heavy Missile launcers with +8 shield implants I get 15250 shield & when I train shields a bit more this will go to over 16K. With 1.5 million in engineering skills-including tactical shield manipulation at 4 -you will be able to tank anything that a level 4 can throw at you (with the right amplifiers). The active setup for this is even harder shield wise but will cap out after 20 minutes or so-drop a SPR for a PDU might prevent this. (PDU= power dignostic unit) The Drake is a fine ship & my corp mates wanted one last night when they saw how well it can tank. Fine tank but not a lot of gank but a great support ship for a corp mission effort.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.07.21 12:24:00 - [4] Edited by: Akita T on 21/07/2008 12:24:34 Originally by: Pteranodon The Drake is not a gank ship No idea about you, but I can get around 400 DPS out of it with the fit above and T1 Scourge, which is "ganky enough" for most L4s, especially considering the tank is overkill for most missions already. As for AE4 bonus room, I just don't go there solo - but yeah, THERE you do want a full tank setup. P.S. Same goes for EA5/5 - ideally, you want around 800 DPS output there. _ THE APPRENTICE \|\| mineral balance \|\| nanofix
Daisy Blossom Caldari Alpha27 Diabolic Paradox	Posted - 2008.07.21 12:30:00 - [5] Originally by: Pteranodon The Drake is not a gank ship so I would spec it for maximum resists & use it as a level 4 mission tank. It will kill nicely upto to level 3 missions but you will suffer lack of damage in the majority of level4 missions as not every rat has Kinectic as the weakest resist. bollox. [Drake, LVL 4's] Ballistic Control System II Cross-linked Bolt Array I Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Recharger II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Heat Dissipation Field II Ballistic Deflection Field II Invulnerability Field II Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile [empty high slot] Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I Hobgoblin I x5 with my missile and shield skills that nets 308 EFT DPS which is enough to take on any lvl 4 BS I've ever encountered (through 1.5mill bounty). Also, by making sure you have the right active hardeners for the faction you're fighting, I've never once had to warp out because my shield tank was breaking. No GANK???? I'm not going to post my exact pvp setup but let's just say throw some HAMs on that thing and people will sh*t themselves when they see 600dps coming out of CCP's "mission boat". I have never lost a 1 v 1 to any other battlecruiser and I have fought dozens of gank-canes and harbi's. Being underestimated in pvp is....quite fun.
Felix Dzerzhinsky Caldari Wreckless Abandon Un-Natural Selection	Posted - 2008.07.21 12:49:00 - [6] Then you are not fighting decent Harbinger pilots. . .becaue 400 dps as a 'gank' setup is pathetic. . . All in all, the Drake is a good ship, but caldari and gank is an oxymoron. ---- GO BLUE!!
Kitana Muerte 7th Space Cavalry R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.07.21 12:49:00 - [7] Drake is the most boring ship I have ever flown. lock f1-f7 that's it your shield is passive and you don't care about tracking. It doesn't mean it is bad ship, but it's just sooo boring..
Pteranodon	Posted - 2008.07.21 12:54:00 - [8] Edited by: Pteranodon on 21/07/2008 12:54:16 Originally by: Kitana Muerte Drake is the most boring ship I have ever flown. lock f1-f7 that's it your shield is passive and you don't care about tracking. It doesn't mean it is bad ship, but it's just sooo boring.. When you run missions-I'd sooner be bored than in a pod]
Hannobaal Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.07.21 13:57:00 - [9] Originally by: Felix Dzerzhinsky Then you are not fighting decent Harbinger pilots. . .becaue 400 dps as a 'gank' setup is pathetic. . . All in all, the Drake is a good ship, but caldari and gank is an oxymoron. He said 600. And actually up to 700 is possible (with maxed skills and missile damage implants). --------------- I'm not as think as you drunk I am.
Derek Sigres	Posted - 2008.07.21 14:08:00 - [10] Originally by: Felix Dzerzhinsky Then you are not fighting decent Harbinger pilots. . .becaue 400 dps as a 'gank' setup is pathetic. . . All in all, the Drake is a good ship, but caldari and gank is an oxymoron. HAM Drakes spit up to 600 reasonable DPS using faction kinetic missiles all the while having stout buffers AND throwing the ability to tackle in the mix - hardly something to sneeze at in any case. If one went with a pure gank drake they can probably up those numbers to 650 DPS using the terrible T2 ammo.

Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.07.21 14:16:00 - [11] Originally by: Hannobaal He said 600. And actually up to 700 is possible (with maxed skills and missile damage implants). All L5, 3% implants (PG4, ZME1000, KYA1000, ZMM100) -> 666 DPS [Drake, expensive gank barely fits] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive 'Langour' Drive Disruptor I Warp Disruptor I Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Caldari Navy Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile [empty high slot] Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Hobgoblin II x5 _ THE APPRENTICE \|\| mineral balance \|\| nanofix
Artemis Rose Eleckrostatik	Posted - 2008.07.21 14:38:00 - [12] Edited by: Artemis Rose on 21/07/2008 14:39:19 I dislike the Drake for PvE because it does in my opinion, woefully low damage to be running level 4s. If I had to run missions in one, I'd use this. PvE: 3x Purger 1 Rigs 3x BCS T2 1x SPR t2 2x LSE T2 1x Shield Recharger 2x Active Rat specific primary resist 1x Active rat specific seconday resist 7x Arbalest Heavy Missile Launchers w/ Scourge loaded 5x Rat specific drones You'd need a CPU implant to get T2 launchers to fit. With the rigs, its (usually) woefully overtanked for missions, so you won't need anything stronger than that imho. You may get different results. For PvP 3x Core Extender Rigs 3x BCS t2 1x DC t2 (Power Diag if you want T2 HAM launchers) 1x LSE t2 2x Invul t2 1x MWD 1x Scram 1x Web 7x Arby HAM w/ CN Terror Missiles 5x w/e drones (ECM usually) Enjoy. EDIT: Typos. __________________________________________________ Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine. WTB Purple Nerf Bat.
pietplaat Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.07.21 19:41:00 - [13] Greetings, Thank you all for all the comments, I go and train for it and try it


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