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![ALoneHobo ALoneHobo](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1295793200/portrait?size=64)
ALoneHobo
Caldari Isonami Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.07.21 17:54:00 -
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Edited by: ALoneHobo on 21/07/2008 17:55:21 Ok lets assume all skills are level 5 and you have the ideal setup for the missions :P
What is a better isk/hour earner?
A Raven soloing level 4s or a Drake soloing level 3s?
Discuss.
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![Arvald Arvald](https://images.evetech.net/characters/560266351/portrait?size=64)
Arvald
Caldari Ninjas N Pirates
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Posted - 2008.07.21 17:54:00 -
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Edited by: Arvald on 21/07/2008 17:55:13 raven l4's
in class so dont have any of my fits handy, ill post a few when i get home
Originally by: Reem Fairchild The fact that people who post stupid things get instant and honest feedback letting them know how stupid they are, is one of the best qualities of the Eve forums.
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![justsometrader justsometrader](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1936680665/portrait?size=64)
justsometrader
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Posted - 2008.07.21 18:02:00 -
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is this a real question, or are you just kidding around?
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![Akita T Akita T](https://images.evetech.net/characters/776304952/portrait?size=64)
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.21 18:04:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 21/07/2008 18:05:02
"Discuss"
Hmm. OP never ever actually ran any L4s. How's that for a discussion ? If you ever ran just a couple of L4s, the answer should be obvious.
Would you have asked "assuming maxed skills, whet's better, Drake running L4s aor Drake running L3s", and the answer would STILL be L4s.
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![mentalmonkey mentalmonkey](https://images.evetech.net/characters/186334589/portrait?size=64)
mentalmonkey
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2008.07.21 18:04:00 -
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L4s for sure, Raven is pretty fast, you can find fits in sticky / battleclinic
Here is quite a nice raven fit, you don't need to perma run in mission but if you want to you could probably drop a CPR for another BCU if you have 5/5 cap skills (alot of people do with overloading) or an implant.
I have just started dual boxing L4s, got a Domi on my main 2X LAR II, 4 X hardener II perma tank, with ogre IIs (450DPS) which also works well solo. Was wondering weather it would be better to use low SP raven pilot or 'geddon? I guess raven because you can change DMG type and also because my Ammar char isn't ready.
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![Prometius Prometius](https://images.evetech.net/characters/228695654/portrait?size=64)
Prometius
Caldari Dark Nebula Gallente Division Dark Nebula Galactic Empire
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Posted - 2008.07.21 18:05:00 -
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how about a drake soloing lvl 4's?
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![Boz Well Boz Well](https://images.evetech.net/characters/387791821/portrait?size=64)
Boz Well
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Posted - 2008.07.21 18:06:00 -
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Neither. Stick with speed-running level 2's in a Caracal. The only way to top that is to farm level 1's in a commander-fit kestrel.
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![Akita T Akita T](https://images.evetech.net/characters/776304952/portrait?size=64)
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.21 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Prometius how about a drake soloing lvl 4's?
Drake L3s < Drake L4s < Nighthawk L4s <= Raven L4s < Golem L4s <= CNR L4s.
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![Prometius Prometius](https://images.evetech.net/characters/228695654/portrait?size=64)
Prometius
Caldari Dark Nebula Gallente Division Dark Nebula Galactic Empire
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Posted - 2008.07.21 18:08:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Prometius how about a drake soloing lvl 4's?
Drake L3s < Drake L4s < Nighthawk L4s <= Raven L4s < Golem L4s <= CNR L4s.
good point.
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![justsometrader justsometrader](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1936680665/portrait?size=64)
justsometrader
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Posted - 2008.07.21 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: Boz Well Neither. Stick with speed-running level 2's in a Caracal. The only way to top that is to farm level 1's in a commander-fit kestrel.
no sorry, but commander-fit Kestrels are considered an exploit and are therefore forbidden !!!
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![Prometius Prometius](https://images.evetech.net/characters/228695654/portrait?size=64)
Prometius
Caldari Dark Nebula Gallente Division Dark Nebula Galactic Empire
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Posted - 2008.07.21 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: Boz Well Neither. Stick with speed-running level 2's in a Caracal. The only way to top that is to farm level 1's in a commander-fit kestrel.
I wonder if someone actually compared all of that in a spreadsheet, it would be an interesting find. In my opinion CCP probably did the numbers when they designed the level missions.
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![Akita T Akita T](https://images.evetech.net/characters/776304952/portrait?size=64)
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.21 18:10:00 -
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Assuming L5 skills of course. If your skills are crap, Drake L3s > all rest ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
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![Boz Well Boz Well](https://images.evetech.net/characters/387791821/portrait?size=64)
Boz Well
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Posted - 2008.07.21 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: Prometius
Originally by: Boz Well Neither. Stick with speed-running level 2's in a Caracal. The only way to top that is to farm level 1's in a commander-fit kestrel.
I wonder if someone actually compared all of that in a spreadsheet, it would be an interesting find. In my opinion CCP probably did the numbers when they designed the level missions.
What a valuable use of someone's time. Seriously, I'm being serious here. What? I'm serious.
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![Akita T Akita T](https://images.evetech.net/characters/776304952/portrait?size=64)
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.21 18:12:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 21/07/2008 18:13:37
The fact you have to jump on average at least a system makes running L2s, no matter how speedy, quite pointless. But IF you could find some (hypothetical) cul-de-sac system with shedloads of L2 combat agents, it might be worth trying.
Although if it's *ONLY* faction standings you're going for, a pimped afterburner quad-BCU NH running L3s should be awesome.
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![Chainsaw Plankton Chainsaw Plankton](https://images.evetech.net/characters/733671405/portrait?size=64)
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.07.21 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Prometius how about a drake soloing lvl 4's?
Drake L3s < Drake L4s < Nighthawk L4s <= Raven L4s < Golem L4s <= CNR L4s.
< torp golem lv4s
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![Staggerr Staggerr](https://images.evetech.net/characters/583578843/portrait?size=64)
Staggerr
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Posted - 2008.07.21 18:13:00 -
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But what about soloing l4s in a Raven against soloing L5s in a capital (not taking the missions you can't enter in a cap in account)? ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
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![Akita T Akita T](https://images.evetech.net/characters/776304952/portrait?size=64)
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.21 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton < torp golem lv4s
Who the hell still flies cruise Ravens in missions ? Want range and tank ? That's what Nighthawks are for ![Twisted Evil](/images/icon_twisted.gif)
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![justsometrader justsometrader](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1936680665/portrait?size=64)
justsometrader
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Posted - 2008.07.21 18:15:00 -
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1. get a titan 2. get a lvl 5 mission without deadspace 3. get the titan in there 4. DD !!!! 5. profit ?
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![Boz Well Boz Well](https://images.evetech.net/characters/387791821/portrait?size=64)
Boz Well
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Posted - 2008.07.21 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Prometius how about a drake soloing lvl 4's?
Drake L3s < Drake L4s < Nighthawk L4s <= Raven L4s < Golem L4s <= CNR L4s.
< torp golem lv4s
< estamel kestrel
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![Akita T Akita T](https://images.evetech.net/characters/776304952/portrait?size=64)
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.21 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Staggerr But what about soloing l4s in a Raven against soloing L5s in a capital (not taking the missions you can't enter in a cap in account)? ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
You don't bring capships in L5s, you bring swarms of BSs and BCs ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif)
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![Akita T Akita T](https://images.evetech.net/characters/776304952/portrait?size=64)
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.21 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: justsometrader 1. get a titan 2. get a lvl 5 mission without deadspace 3. get the titan in there 4. DD !!!!
5. profit ? lose ISK 6. wait one hour 7. repeat steps 4-6 as necessary
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![Staggerr Staggerr](https://images.evetech.net/characters/583578843/portrait?size=64)
Staggerr
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Posted - 2008.07.21 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Staggerr But what about soloing l4s in a Raven against soloing L5s in a capital (not taking the missions you can't enter in a cap in account)? ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
You don't bring capships in L5s, you bring swarms of BSs and BCs ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif)
Kinda hard to do that solo tho.
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![Akita T Akita T](https://images.evetech.net/characters/776304952/portrait?size=64)
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.21 18:19:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 21/07/2008 18:19:22
Originally by: Staggerr Kinda hard to do that solo tho.
Kinda' hard to solo missions designed for groups tho' ESPECIALLY when the stupid agent sends you in another system. Or worse, in highsec ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
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![Prometius Prometius](https://images.evetech.net/characters/228695654/portrait?size=64)
Prometius
Caldari Dark Nebula Gallente Division Dark Nebula Galactic Empire
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Posted - 2008.07.21 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: Boz Well
Originally by: Prometius
Originally by: Boz Well Neither. Stick with speed-running level 2's in a Caracal. The only way to top that is to farm level 1's in a commander-fit kestrel.
I wonder if someone actually compared all of that in a spreadsheet, it would be an interesting find. In my opinion CCP probably did the numbers when they designed the level missions.
What a valuable use of someone's time. Seriously, I'm being serious here. What? I'm serious.
Well sarcasm aside it would be interesting to see the numbers, but i also agree with what was said about moving around to different systems. IMO the big money maker is lvl3's en masse.
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![justsometrader justsometrader](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1936680665/portrait?size=64)
justsometrader
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Posted - 2008.07.21 18:21:00 -
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Edited by: justsometrader on 21/07/2008 18:20:49
Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 21/07/2008 18:19:22
Originally by: Staggerr Kinda hard to do that solo tho.
Kinda' hard to solo missions designed for groups tho'
But my paladin in WoW can do groupquests solo !!!! Why cant my Paladin marauder ???
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![Prometius Prometius](https://images.evetech.net/characters/228695654/portrait?size=64)
Prometius
Caldari Dark Nebula Gallente Division Dark Nebula Galactic Empire
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Posted - 2008.07.21 18:21:00 -
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Originally by: justsometrader Edited by: justsometrader on 21/07/2008 18:20:49
Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 21/07/2008 18:19:22
Originally by: Staggerr Kinda hard to do that solo tho.
Kinda' hard to solo missions designed for groups tho'
But my paladin in WoW can do groupquests solo !!!! Why cant my Paladin marauder ???
haha
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![Staggerr Staggerr](https://images.evetech.net/characters/583578843/portrait?size=64)
Staggerr
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Posted - 2008.07.21 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 21/07/2008 18:19:22
Originally by: Staggerr Kinda hard to do that solo tho.
Kinda' hard to solo missions designed for groups tho' ESPECIALLY when the stupid agent sends you in another system. Or worse, in highsec ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
Comparing L1s to L4s isk/hour solo... Throwing L5s into the discussion, figured the ' ' would had pointed out it wasn't a serious question.
And I mentioned you can't do them all in a cap anyway, didn't I?
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![Akita T Akita T](https://images.evetech.net/characters/776304952/portrait?size=64)
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.21 18:30:00 -
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You're using logic in a silly thread ! How the hell am I supposed to know ? ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
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![Derek Sigres Derek Sigres](https://images.evetech.net/characters/883220914/portrait?size=64)
Derek Sigres
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Posted - 2008.07.21 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton < torp golem lv4s
Who the hell still flies cruise Ravens in missions ? Want range and tank ? That's what Nighthawks are for ![Twisted Evil](/images/icon_twisted.gif)
I still fly a Cruise raven for missions because I'm ever so lazy. I've often thought about slapping torps and range rigs on my raven because I don't really need my rig slots for tank (I do fine with 5 slot active tank and 2 PDS as it stands now) but then I might actually have to MOVE during missions rather than just doze while mashing keys.
Still, I'd agree with the general chart for caldari ships and whatnot. I feel that certain ships do missions against particular rats better (Paladin Agaisnt Blood Raiders/Sansha for example) but since the OP gave no indication they wanted to know about such nonsense I won't muddy the waters further.
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![Akita T Akita T](https://images.evetech.net/characters/776304952/portrait?size=64)
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.21 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Derek Sigres I still fly a Cruise raven for missions because I'm ever so lazy.
NH works better with "lazy" ![Wink](/images/icon_wink.gif)
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