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Doc Fury
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Posted - 2008.07.23 00:05:00 -
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Edited by: Doc Fury on 23/07/2008 00:21:46
Originally by: Zephyr Rengate
Originally by: Doc Fury My guess is that "Distract-U-lation" will be released far sooner than it actually works properly, and just as soon as CCP decides it needs another influx of subscribers.
Lol why would CCP release something in-complete to try gain sub numbers? Surely that would lessen sub numbers.
Revelations still isn't complete, and yet here we are. FW still isn't complete either.
Because marketing > common sense.
Remember, CCP only expects you to stick around for 7 months anyway, that is their published "churn rate". If they can do a marketing push for "Distract-U-lation" and get 20K new subscribers to last for 7 months, that's 2.1 million bucks. This does not take into account the perhaps 30K (or more) other new subbies that might sign up and leave after 6 months or less.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder and politics will foam up about their waists and all the world will look up and shout 'Save us!'.. and I will look down and whisper, 'No'.. |

Jocian Orem
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.07.23 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: Skipdog thats right, you must work in ccp's finance department!! OF COURSE!!!!
loan me that magic 8-ball when you are done, kthx!
I know it's hard to read through your raging desire for more e-peen, but as has been repeatedly stated, the tech behind Ambulation was always going to be developed, it was never going to be cancelled so that money could go toward giving you a bigger internet spaceship to blow up other internet spaceships after you get turned down for yet another date.
The only question was whether or not EVE was actually going to get anything out of the project.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.07.23 00:09:00 -
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Originally by: Dihania
Originally by: Lui Kai
Originally by: Zhenga You want full body Avatar, go play WoW. This is internet spaceships and imo I think it is stupid that CCP is making this kind of addition to this game.
/hug
/grouphug
/grouphug-ShiftyEyes-Farts-backaway
Comming SoonÖ
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Kyle'dyr Endermark
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.23 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: Skipdog
They are spending money to have ambulation. They could use that money and hire staff or even hire a third party company to create something that would be USEFUL! Stop trying to ignore the fact that the folks we pay each month, are spending their money on pointless things when they could have hired a team to create something that would actually have a POINT! The fact that they are hiring a 3rd party company to do this, is POINTLESS. They could hire more staff or hire a company to make something that would actually enhance the game.
The point is that the money spent for Ambulation may not have been spent otherwise. ROI will likely be higher for Ambulation as it's a far more visible expansion of the game. You may not like it, but ambulation is likely to broaden the potential subscriber base more than lag fixes or some of the other eve-centric suggestions put forward here.
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Spaztick
Canadian Imperial Armaments EVESpace
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Posted - 2008.07.23 00:43:00 -
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Man you people will ***** about anything. It doesn't affect you or EVE in any negative way, why the **** should we care if you don't like it? You don't like it don't use it. But seriously, more people should have some type of spacer in their sigs to show it's not part of the post. |

Althea Nar'agh
StarHunt Fallout Project
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Posted - 2008.07.23 06:21:00 -
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Originally by: Aprudena Gist
Originally by: Arvald
Originally by: Zhenga You want full body Avatar, go play WoW. This is internet spaceships and imo I think it is stupid that CCP is making this kind of addition to this game.
its not taking any resources from the important shings ccp are doing,m and it has been said several times by ccp that you will not ever have to even look at it if you dont want to , so shut it you whinny little pansy
No this is ****ing stupid too think that ambulation isn't taking away from other thing. They could have had this team work on something else that would have been useful like i dunno more ships. How ****ing hard is this to understand? This is a game about internet spaceships not walking around in a station like a magical elf.
As per my knowledge the Ambulation team is indeed working on "something else". It's working on a forking something else game with Ambulation being the prototype /POC... so no, you would not get those people doing anything for the spaceships ever... War. War never changes.
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Piotr Anatolev
Gallente Coalition of Nations Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2008.07.23 06:29:00 -
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Originally by: Aprudena Gist This is a game about internet spaceships not walking around in a station like a magical elf.
To you it is.
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Kaiszer Sose
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Posted - 2008.07.23 08:31:00 -
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The amount of nerd rage in this thread is staggering.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.07.23 08:50:00 -
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It interests me that people continually put forward that ambulation does not belong in EVE because it is a exclusively spaceships game, and that people who want it should play a game such as World of Warcraft instead.
The fact that they see EVE as such a shallow game that they implicitly deny the existence of aspects of the game such as trading, industry and just plain old socialising, all of which can and do happen on a large scale in EVE and all of which can be and are done exclusively from in-station, suggests to me that rather than the people who support ambulation needing to go back to World of Warcraft, it is in fact those who decry ambulation in this manner who instead need to go back to Unreal Tournament, or their online FPS of choice.
In short, EVE is more that UT In Space, STFU. -
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Vasili vonHolst
Minmatar Gargamel's Lair
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Posted - 2008.07.23 08:57:00 -
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Originally by: Piotr Anatolev
Originally by: Aprudena Gist This is a game about internet spaceships not walking around in a station like a magical elf.
lulz
TBH i'm pro-anything that is new and out of the ordinary for EvE (including this upgrade), maybe then i will actually play again instead of just paying for the 2x accounts i only change skills on! Imo EvE needs new radical changes like this to keep the older players interested and to attract new accounts. CCP realizes that not everyone wants to think of themselfs as "a ship"
We need things like:
Non-human races (aliens) - Yes please Walk around in stations - Yes please Mod your ship with a logo or something - Yes please Optional crew on ship - Yes please
Not:
55 More ships with SAME model, turn them silver and give different specs - Sigh Typical ccp content addition - Yawn
--->Movie: + Trillion damage to CareBear community--->LOL Pic: Mitnal R4pes!
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Lui Kai
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.07.23 09:15:00 -
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In reply to the OP's question - the various older interviews state "2008," but the later interviews don't state a date.
So, a reasonable chance for December (Only expansion left for 2008), but it may have been pushed back (And thus the silence on dates in the later posts/interviews/videos).
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Reven Cordelle
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.07.23 09:50:00 -
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Late this year, mid next year.
Its a big expansion and CCPs team is quite small considering the task at hand.
I'm looking forward to it, but you have to remember that a lot of people would prefer EVE if it had no graphics at all. You know, the people that constantly ***** about the lag that the ambulation project won't actually bring.
Therefore;
Threads about Ambulation = Formal Invite for a Cheese and Whine Box Social on the forums.
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Zinras
Caldari Order of draugr
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Posted - 2008.07.23 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn It interests me that people continually put forward that ambulation does not belong in EVE because it is a exclusively spaceships game, and that people who want it should play a game such as World of Warcraft instead.
The fact that they see EVE as such a shallow game that they implicitly deny the existence of aspects of the game such as trading, industry and just plain old socialising, all of which can and do happen on a large scale in EVE and all of which can be and are done exclusively from in-station, suggests to me that rather than the people who support ambulation needing to go back to World of Warcraft, it is in fact those who decry ambulation in this manner who instead need to go back to Unreal Tournament, or their online FPS of choice.
In short, EVE is more that UT In Space, STFU.
Logic? In General Discussion? DOES NOT COMPUTE!
You are, however, correct.
Originally by: CCP Greyscale *moderated - mother abuse - Mitnal*
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire That si a fact comming out from my bran.
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Astria Tiphareth
Caldari 24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.23 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn It interests me that people continually put forward that ambulation does not belong in EVE because it is a exclusively spaceships game, and that people who want it should play a game such as World of Warcraft instead.
The fact that they see EVE as such a shallow game that they implicitly deny the existence of aspects of the game such as trading, industry and just plain old socialising, all of which can and do happen on a large scale in EVE and all of which can be and are done exclusively from in-station, suggests to me that rather than the people who support ambulation needing to go back to World of Warcraft, it is in fact those who decry ambulation in this manner who instead need to go back to Unreal Tournament, or their online FPS of choice.
In short, EVE is more that UT In Space, STFU.
Well said. ___ My views may not represent those of my corporation or alliance, which is why I never get invited to those diplomatic parties... |

Tennoku
Amarr Hedion University
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Posted - 2008.07.23 13:54:00 -
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Need to add my voice to the list of those who bring reason. I spend a lot of time docked in stations, and I enjoy the non-spaceship aspects of the game. I pay to play as well - you're not the only ones - and I am quite happy for that money to go towards building ambulation. I'm a paying customer, and I want ambulation. Don't presume to speak on my behalf.
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Nicholas Barker
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.07.23 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Skipdog
Originally by: Cutter Isaacson
Originally by: Aprudena Gist And the Team doing Ambulatio currently would have what sat on their asses twiddling their thumbs? No they could have done something more constructive to contriube to this internet SPACESHIP game then let people walk around in a ******ed station. This was such a waste of man power its not even funny.
If anyone had ever bothered to look up the various videos posted about ambulation, which you quite obviously haven't, ambulation is being prepped by a THIRD PARTY. Thats right, the people responsible for ambulation were hired jointly by CCP and White Wolf for their upcoming joint MMO "World of Darkness". The programmers and graphics artists produced a small video (namely the one people have been talking about) as a proof of concept. They most likely used EVE as the basis because of the available data and graphics components rather than make one for World of Darkness from scratch.
It seems that CCP liked their presentation so much that the go ahead was given for this third party to be employed not only to work on World of Darkness, but also to expand upon their demo of ambulation into a full blown add-on for EVE.
It has been stated time and again that Ambulation is NOT being prepped by CCP employees who would otherwise have been working on lag or balancing issues, in fact until they produced their demo they weren't even employed by either CCP or White Wolf.
No "extra funding" that would have otherwise have been used to improve the current problems with EVE have been appropriated, nor will ambulation have any, repeat ANY, adverse effects on the lag in EVE as it will be running on a different system. And finally, its free and you don't have to use it so please, please quit whining about it. If you don't like it, then don't use it. simple.
They are spending money to have ambulation. They could use that money and hire staff or even hire a third party company to create something that would be USEFUL! Stop trying to ignore the fact that the folks we pay each month, are spending their money on pointless things when they could have hired a team to create something that would actually have a POINT! The fact that they are hiring a 3rd party company to do this, is POINTLESS. They could hire more staff or hire a company to make something that would actually enhance the game.
Even if they wern't adding this to eve, they'd still be developing it, it's mainly going to be in use for their new MMO world of darkness (the world that vampire the masquerade and the other white wolf stuff is based in).
They just happen to be so nice as to be adding it into eve so we get the benefit too. CCP are nolonger just the company that makes eve, they're the company that makes eve, and world of darkness. Alot of whitewolfs money will be going into this too which we wouldn't have had without the merger, and without them making WOD we wouldn't have had the merger either. They've allready got teams working on everything so the staff working on this would literally be twiddling their thumbs in the dole office.
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Lui Kai
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.07.23 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: Reven Cordelle
Threads about Ambulation = Formal Invite for a Cheese and Whine Box Social on the forums.
No kidding. Though, shockingly, my info thread has stayed clean of that so far. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
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Rodney Caston
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.23 15:43:00 -
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I still think this will be implemented as a way to eliminate a great deal of the lag from Jita and other high-sec systems.
When you are in the station post-ambulation, you'll be on different node than those who are flying outside, so less people on the node. This would move all the day traders who just sit in the Jita station to another node.
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Kyra Felann
Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies
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Posted - 2008.07.23 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Zhenga
Originally by: Kyra Felann
Originally by: Zhenga You want full body Avatar, go play WoW. This is internet spaceships and imo I think it is stupid that CCP is making this kind of addition to this game.
Nobody cares what you think.
Nobody cares what you WoW players think either. WoW --->
I've never touched WoW. You fail.
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Camino Archer
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Posted - 2008.07.24 00:40:00 -
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I want It! I think its a great Addition,...In theory. If it has captains moddable quarters, I want it NOW..Anything to put me IN the ship and were I can make it MY ship..Not a Clone Of the best tank, the best sniper, the best, ect, ect. I really wish they would add external modifications.( If I have a Afterburner U would know it by looking at my ship. If I have Torp launchers or Cruise missle launchers it would be visible externaly.)
BTW, WOW sucks!
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Lui Kai
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.07.24 01:02:00 -
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There are captain's quarters, and we know they're modifiable in so far as you can put things in them at least. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
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Felix Mibaz
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Posted - 2008.07.24 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: Aprudena Gist
Originally by: Arvald
Originally by: Zhenga You want full body Avatar, go play WoW. This is internet spaceships and imo I think it is stupid that CCP is making this kind of addition to this game.
its not taking any resources from the important shings ccp are doing,m and it has been said several times by ccp that you will not ever have to even look at it if you dont want to , so shut it you whinny little pansy
No this is ****ing stupid too think that ambulation isn't taking away from other thing. They could have had this team work on something else that would have been useful like i dunno more ships. How ****ing hard is this to understand? This is a game about internet spaceships not walking around in a station like a magical elf.
Riggght. There is always something bigger and better that can be worked on. However, this is a business, and to compete with other games in it's class that have or are coming out, it would be an added nothc on the belt for them to offer to new and existing members to make sure they keep their numbers.
Yes this is a internet spaceships game, but there are some players that do, do some poker things for isk, there are players that role play in-game, and some other characteristics that this would benefit.
With that, I do believe that CCP even said, with this implementation, that it wouldn't TAKE AWAY from the what EvE is all about, it would just be some more dimensions for players that find these things interesting. I for one, think it's a decent idea, as long as it stays only an optional, non-essential gameplay aspect that doesn't lag the rest of the game, because there is enough of that at times already.
So if it brings more players, and/or keeps more people interested, being a business, I think they should do it. Seriously, CCP is a business, and business like to make money. Not just pleasing one narrow-minded group of people. If it can be done without creating more lag and isn't mandatory then what the hell can it hurt?
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Ballamahamabad Madas
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Posted - 2008.07.24 01:30:00 -
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dunno why people keep flaming ambulation, since they're developing the engine for world of darkness, and eve is just benefiting from it (and we'll be beta testing it).
and its not coming out soon enough imo.
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Yelan Zhou
Amarr Hedion University
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Posted - 2008.07.24 01:33:00 -
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Cant wait for it to come.Such a nice addition. War, War never changes.
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ViRUS Pottage
Caldari hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.07.24 01:37:00 -
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Originally by: Skipdog
Originally by: Cutter Isaacson
Originally by: Aprudena Gist And the Team doing Ambulatio currently would have what sat on their asses twiddling their thumbs? No they could have done something more constructive to contriube to this internet SPACESHIP game then let people walk around in a ******ed station. This was such a waste of man power its not even funny.
If anyone had ever bothered to look up the various videos posted about ambulation, which you quite obviously haven't, ambulation is being prepped by a THIRD PARTY. Thats right, the people responsible for ambulation were hired jointly by CCP and White Wolf for their upcoming joint MMO "World of Darkness". The programmers and graphics artists produced a small video (namely the one people have been talking about) as a proof of concept. They most likely used EVE as the basis because of the available data and graphics components rather than make one for World of Darkness from scratch.
It seems that CCP liked their presentation so much that the go ahead was given for this third party to be employed not only to work on World of Darkness, but also to expand upon their demo of ambulation into a full blown add-on for EVE.
It has been stated time and again that Ambulation is NOT being prepped by CCP employees who would otherwise have been working on lag or balancing issues, in fact until they produced their demo they weren't even employed by either CCP or White Wolf.
No "extra funding" that would have otherwise have been used to improve the current problems with EVE have been appropriated, nor will ambulation have any, repeat ANY, adverse effects on the lag in EVE as it will be running on a different system. And finally, its free and you don't have to use it so please, please quit whining about it. If you don't like it, then don't use it. simple.
They are spending money to have ambulation. They could use that money and hire staff or even hire a third party company to create something that would be USEFUL! Stop trying to ignore the fact that the folks we pay each month, are spending their money on pointless things when they could have hired a team to create something that would actually have a POINT! The fact that they are hiring a 3rd party company to do this, is POINTLESS. They could hire more staff or hire a company to make something that would actually enhance the game.
Nobody cares what you want or think. Do you own the game? Do you control CCP?
I think CCP will do what THEY want with THEIR game, and YOU can't do anything about it. _________
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Dessa DesPlains
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.07.24 05:27:00 -
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I hope its released soon. It seems like I've been in this stinky pod forever and could use some time with a nice, oiled minmatar dancer named "Lance".
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Garia666
Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E White Core
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Posted - 2008.07.24 08:31:00 -
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Originally by: Karii Ildarian
Originally by: Garia666 to soom.. if ya ask meh.. more lag more trouble
Ummm, Ambulation will occur on a separate server, so if anything, will help reduce lag on Tranq...
Like it will have no impact on eve at all.. i dont buy it.. www.garia.net |
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