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kieron	Posted - 2004.05.26 03:08:00 - [1] Take a look at the EVE Insider News page for an update on the Jovian storyline. There is a hint for the RP-impaired. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online
Carmen Priano	Posted - 2004.05.26 03:36:00 - [2] 'hint for the RP-impaired' -- oi.
Tyrrax Thorrk	Posted - 2004.05.26 04:23:00 - [3] HAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAH 20k EACH http://eve.klaki.net/
Frankinator	Posted - 2004.05.26 04:24:00 - [4] Edited by: Frankinator on 26/05/2004 04:35:52 So let's say I myself would want to be doing this. I would need about 5b isk to be sure to get enough of them. Then I get the limited cloacking bp's and make about 15b. Which is very nice. Of course I do not have 5b in the first place, guess who does? The alliance people or mega corps. Why doesn't this have anything to do with other aspects of the game? Like the people who have been waiting half a year while doing agent missions in the hope they would get something back for it, to name one. This is just for the people who are into the 'Make-as-much-isk-as-possible' aspect of the game.
Drakxter	Posted - 2004.05.26 04:59:00 - [5] One thing I see as a problem: Those that have donated parts will not get any chance to see the BPCs, but will MAYBE get a good standing with the jove (yay.. thats usefull or is it? Really?? Not right now anyway.) I think there should be handed out more BPCs (to the one that sells), split up the runs on them, so they can be split out to the different corps that donated/helped. ------------- Most tired of thing atm: - Mods on the forum saying: "Please use the bug report page to submit bugs, the forum is not the place to post them." and then closing a topic.
Centauri	Posted - 2004.05.26 06:35:00 - [6] 20k each? Ouch. And with so many Caldari in the game, guess who's going to win Centauri, Former Fleet Admiral of Star Control
FreeTofi	Posted - 2004.05.26 06:54:00 - [7] OMFG, What a joke. Hope this causes uproar!
Artean	Posted - 2004.05.26 07:03:00 - [8] Cloaking finally... ........ There is a fine line between gate camping and just standing by a gate, looking like an idiot...
Jowen Datloran	Posted - 2004.05.26 07:36:00 - [9] No way I'm going to hand my items over to a mega corp to support their ever increasing wallets. They already have their megacyte, NPC battleships and valuable meta items to make money on. I'm not lettting any non-RP group going to profit on this one. I would much rather hand in my few items and then have a symbolic reward all caldari can share. ---------------- What's a rumor on page one is a fact on page two
meowcat	Posted - 2004.05.26 07:38:00 - [10] Edited by: meowcat on 26/05/2004 08:09:14 "... ahead of general availability ..." good... so at least the little guy might actually see a cloaking device... in 6 months WTS: one blood drop; 5 million isk Seriously though, i think i'll keep my blood drop as a souvenir It is a shame that i cannot donate it directly to the Federation ~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~ yeah but no but yeah but no but
Atandros	Posted - 2004.05.26 08:40:00 - [11] Regrding the news itself...That response to the cloaking question was a really cheap pun. I hope the press grills him for it (maintaining realism and all that).
XuevranLed	Posted - 2004.05.26 09:17:00 - [12] Question: What about the thousands of epidermis that got spread around? I saw no mention of that on the buyback thing...this Jovian dude's gonna look pretty messed up if they dont get his skin back on... And BTW yeah, this whole thing smacks of corp profit, unless all members of the winning empire get something.
Oveur	Posted - 2004.05.26 09:26:00 - [13] Originally by: Frankinator So let's say I myself would want to be doing this. I would need about 5b isk to be sure to get enough of them. If you actually buy them at that price, the lucky bastards selling them would make a steal. And everybody can sell them. Originally by: Frankinator Then I get the limited cloacking bp's and make about 15b. Which is very nice. Wow, thats an big assumption _____________________________ I say hey sky, s'other say I won say, I pray to J I get the same ol' same ol.
Oveur	Posted - 2004.05.26 09:27:00 - [14] Originally by: Drakxter One thing I see as a problem: Those that have donated parts will not get any chance to see the BPCs, but will MAYBE get a good standing with the jove (yay.. thats usefull or is it? Really?? Not right now anyway.) I think there should be handed out more BPCs (to the one that sells), split up the runs on them, so they can be split out to the different corps that donated/helped. We could do that. _____________________________ I say hey sky, s'other say I won say, I pray to J I get the same ol' same ol.
Oveur	Posted - 2004.05.26 09:31:00 - [15] Originally by: Jowen Datloran No way I'm going to hand my items over to a mega corp to support their ever increasing wallets. They already have their megacyte, NPC battleships and valuable meta items to make money on. I'm not lettting any non-RP group going to profit on this one. I would much rather hand in my few items and then have a symbolic reward all caldari can share. If really many are interested in this, we can set up a demand where the minimum order is only 1 but it would not count towards the BPC's only as a donation to the Empire, which would help the races reach the common goal. _____________________________ I say hey sky, s'other say I won say, I pray to J I get the same ol' same ol.
Deadflip2	Posted - 2004.05.26 09:32:00 - [16] Edited by: Deadflip2 on 26/05/2004 09:34:01 roflmao at the ppl that bought for 5 mil a piece . pretty neat btw, i found 3 broken promisses/crappy things: 1. it was ment to be doen previous friday, hint a few newsitems ago 2. the winning RACE was ment to get somethign special (not some stupid standing), not the person SELLING MOST. 3. CLOACKign is of no use till covert ops get out, not only will they suck immense amounts of cpu. there is also absolutely no use for it on a scorp (most likely the onyl ship able to equip it for now). seriously, there is nothing you can do with it, scouting ur better of in a interceptor... --- "this song reminds me of the girl i met on a schooltrip, she was really nice, and she really liked me. I forgot to ask her her phone number" - Nelix trist OMG im a pretzel!!!
Oveur	Posted - 2004.05.26 09:33:00 - [17] Originally by: XuevranLed Question: What about the thousands of epidermis that got spread around? I saw no mention of that on the buyback thing...this Jovian dude's gonna look pretty messed up if they dont get his skin back on... From news "All will buy Epidermis Sliver in minimum batches of 1000, each unit at 20.000 ISK totalling 20M ISK for each batch." Originally by: XuevranLed And BTW yeah, this whole thing smacks of corp profit, unless all members of the winning empire get something. From hint in news "The race that fills the most batches will gain positive standing towards Jove" _____________________________ I say hey sky, s'other say I won say, I pray to J I get the same ol' same ol.
Oveur	Posted - 2004.05.26 09:37:00 - [18] Originally by: meowcat "... ahead of general availability ..." good... so at least the little guy might actually see a cloaking device... in 6 months No, sooner. Originally by: meowcat Seriously though, i think i'll keep my blood drop as a souvenir Thats a good idea, there will be more ways to utilize the bodyparts. Originally by: meowcat It is a shame that i cannot donate it directly to the Federation Like I mentioned earlier, if many are interested in this, we can put up a special demand for this. _____________________________ I say hey sky, s'other say I won say, I pray to J I get the same ol' same ol.
meowcat	Posted - 2004.05.26 09:50:00 - [19] Edited by: meowcat on 26/05/2004 09:53:50 Originally by: Oveur Thats a good idea, there will be more ways to utilize the bodyparts. AAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~ yeah but no but yeah but no but
Xendie	Posted - 2004.05.26 10:59:00 - [20] i doubt ill go out of my way to sell my 6 parts for 20k each. looks like they will sit and rot in that station.
seoul	Posted - 2004.05.26 12:17:00 - [21] All i can say is CCP make your mind up!!!! It seems to me the goalposts on this topic change daily and it sounds like there is still the possibility of further change.
cashman	Posted - 2004.05.26 12:35:00 - [22] And the red thingies? ____________________________________ »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»
Oosel	Posted - 2004.05.26 13:01:00 - [23] i like the idea of setting up single item donation to ure race.....at least then you feel like ure a part of something. if your a small corp even if you dont get a bpc you still get to do your bit for your race so to speak....as somebody else has stated though its a racing bet that with so many bods playing as caldari that they are almost certain to come out on top
Bad Harlequin	Posted - 2004.05.26 13:14:00 - [24] Edited by: Bad Harlequin on 26/05/2004 13:16:07 could be funny. if they set up individual buy orders that don't count for bpcs, and/or enough people decide Jove standing isn't worth it, and/or there aren't enough RP type folks and the majority don't feel like handing the gatherers some free cloaking devices... then there's a strong possibility that NO ONE will achieve the minimum buy orders. but IMHO that's one of the things CCP wants to find out, anyway, so i wouldn't hold my breath waiting for this to get easier PS Oracle is collecting Splinters and Epidermis on behalf of all freedom-loving Minmatar! PPS c'mon, i hadda You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike.
Xrak	Posted - 2004.05.26 13:19:00 - [25] Edited by: Xrak on 26/05/2004 13:48:46 Ok CCP I think that at first this whole collection thing was a good idea, but you have really messed it up. a)You are changing the rules and settings every 2 mins so it makes it hard for people to keep up. You still havent even made up your mind about what your doing as further changes will follow. b)For all the hard work being put in by people like myself the rest of the ETC and others like Faramir and Lord E to get a better standing with the jove is, well not worth all the work we put in. c)The BPc's what is the point in them? not only are they useless to everyone, but everyone who contributed to the cause will want one. Unless they are about 1000 runs this isnt going to happen. How are we ment to share the cloaking devices out between 400 people? EDIT: ok just read up they arent totally useless and can be used on ships other then the CO frigate. d)Also many corperations and alliances are going to try to get the parts themselves now I suspect breaking up all the teamwork behind each of the empires efforts (ie the ETC, the GU, the PRM, and PIE collections) This is only my honest opinon but does no one agree with me here? Xrak
Oveur	Posted - 2004.05.26 13:24:00 - [26] Originally by: Deadflip2 Edited by: Deadflip2 on 26/05/2004 09:34:01 roflmao at the ppl that bought for 5 mil a piece . pretty neat btw, i found 3 broken promisses/crappy things: 1. it was ment to be doen previous friday, hint a few newsitems ago 2. the winning RACE was ment to get somethign special (not some stupid standing), not the person SELLING MOST. 3. CLOACKign is of no use till covert ops get out, not only will they suck immense amounts of cpu. there is also absolutely no use for it on a scorp (most likely the onyl ship able to equip it for now). seriously, there is nothing you can do with it, scouting ur better of in a interceptor... Didn't we just discuss this here? _____________________________ I say hey sky, s'other say I won say, I pray to J I get the same ol' same ol.
Oveur	Posted - 2004.05.26 13:26:00 - [27] Originally by: cashman And the red thingies? They are not used in this round, they have another purpose further down the line. _____________________________ I say hey sky, s'other say I won say, I pray to J I get the same ol' same ol.
Oveur	Posted - 2004.05.26 13:29:00 - [28] Originally by: Oosel i like the idea of setting up single item donation to ure race.....at least then you feel like ure a part of something. if your a small corp even if you dont get a bpc you still get to do your bit for your race so to speak....as somebody else has stated though its a racing bet that with so many bods playing as caldari that they are almost certain to come out on top Noted, but don't forget, before this buyback, these corporations were buying this stuff from the little players for large amounts of ISK, so those that cashed in on that aren't really loosing. Oh, and the bodyparts will have further usage down the line, so it's also sensible to keep them in your hangar - for now _____________________________ I say hey sky, s'other say I won say, I pray to J I get the same ol' same ol.
Enigma Eight	Posted - 2004.05.26 13:41:00 - [29] Oveur: Thx for bringing some light into this mess. Two Questions: What about the pirate drops that were mentioned in the dev blog? How long will the empires collect the parts?
Oveur	Posted - 2004.05.26 13:57:00 - [30] Originally by: Xrak Ok CCP I think that at first this whole collection thing was a good idea, but you have really messed it up. a)You are changing the rules and settings every 2 mins so it makes it hard for people to keep up. You still havent even made up your mind about what your doing as further changes will follow. b)For all the hard work being put in by people like myself the rest of the ETC and others like Faramir and Lord E to get a better standing with the jove is, well not worth all the work we put in. c)The BPc's what is the point in them? not only are they useless to everyone, but everyone who contributed to the cause will want one. Unless they are about 1000 runs this isnt going to happen. How are we ment to share the cloaking devices out between 400 people? d)Also many corperations and alliances are going to try to get the parts themselves now I suspect breaking up all the teamwork behind each of the empires efforts (ie the ETC, the GU, the PRM, and PIE collections) This is only my honest opinon but does no one agree with me here? Xrak A) Yes, we could have been more clear from the beginning, but we reduced order sizes according to rarity. We are also awarding the Race that wins and the parties filling the orders as we stated. This is based on feedback and problems that arose, should we not respond to them? B) You have the choice of not participating, waiting to use your bodyparts for something else. People have different motivations for doing this, some just want their race to win. We can't possibly match all expectations and motivations, hence we do a series of events catering to different people - problem is, we can't do it all at the same time. C) Why do you consider them useless? The reasons that people base their opinion on are usually because of misunderstanding or lack of knowledge of how cloaking technology works. We haven't even released what part of the cloaking tech will be rewarded, it could be a jovian smurgleblaster cloaking cannon mark 4 for all you know D) We can't be held responsible for the actions of players. If it causes dilemma for players what to do, thats great really! We shouldn't dictate what player do or make everything easy, that takes out the challenge. If corps decide to work with their alliance instead of their race then thats their choice and I'm not going to do anything about it. The options I see is : - Gather the parts by buying them - Gather the parts within and with other corps (or alliances) - Gather the parts by joining the RP efforts that want their race to win - Keep the parts to yourself and wait. I see nothing wrong with providing these choices. Events can never cater to everyone, this catering to a large group of people, but by far not all. I know that, but there are more coming, maybe you'll see something there that you like But thats just my honest opinion - and I know that everybody won't agree with me here Thanks for noticing though, if there is much feedback and debate - positive and negative - I guess we are reaching people. Imagine if there was no feedback since nobody cared or noticed, then we would first be doing something wrong _____________________________ I say hey sky, s'other say I won say, I pray to J I get the same ol' same ol.

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