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Rimase
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.18 14:35:00 -
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Inherently, quite possibly, a low priority update though with recent blog of Rebalancing EVE, One Ship At A Time I think this can correlate quite well together.
The proposal is to better-define the differentiation of the Battlecruiser from the Battleship and the Cruiser by simply renaming it. There is much to a name especially in the encyclopaedia of names items that is EVE Online. I questioned folks in Deep Core Mining Inc. and they seemed ok with the idea of renaming Battlecruiser from its in-between similarity of Cruiser and Battleship.
What would re-indentified Battlecruisers be known as?
Condition: Must remain a militaristic impression.
- Gunboat (English)
Probably the only and the best re-identification of the list of Battlecruisers. It is still an impression of militaristic, similarly to 'Battleship' yet curiously smaller than Battleship and very much role-specified by the name 'Gunboat'.
- Other foreign titles?
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mxzf
Shovel Bros
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Posted - 2012.03.18 14:52:00 -
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Why? Simply changing the name doesn't really do anything at all. Besides, all the older players will still call them BCs, despite whatever name there is on the group of ships, which would just confuse newer players that are seeing "gunboat" abbreviated as "BC". |
Rimase
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.18 15:00:00 -
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Explained why. 
If it were Gunboat [Gb] already and this thread existed to change it to "Battlecruiser", you'd likely say the same thing of it confusing players and new players and it'd probably be more believable. e.g. 'Battlecruiser sounds like Battleship. Be confusing.'
See?
It works. Plus it sounds rather awesome; Gunboat.  |
Eidric
Shadows of HyperSpace
Wormholes Holders
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Posted - 2012.03.18 17:14:00 -
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What about missile battlecruisers? They aren't "gun"boats. Besides having a general Gunboat name would cause much more confusion, than Battlecruiser, since 70-80% of current ships are technically gunboats.
But with Battlecruiser name the name pinpoints the connection to the cruiser class albeit with modification - Battle specialized cruiser.
I would be more towards changing Gb into BC if it was the initial set up. |
Rimase
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.18 17:24:00 -
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Eidric wrote:What about missile battlecruisers? They aren't "gun"boats. Handheld guns shoot projectiles projected from the barrel.
Turrets shoot projectiles & lasers projected from the barrel.
Launchers shoot missiles projected from the barrel.
Eidric wrote: -- since 70-80% of current ships are technically gunboats. technically equally 'Battleships', too.
Eidric wrote:But with Battlecruiser name the name pinpoints the connection to the cruiser class albeit with modification - Battle specialized cruiser. Yet it's a different ship. A battle-specialized Cruiser can equally be a Gunboat and a battle-specialized Cruiser would be a TECH2 variation (Specialized) of a Cruiser in EVE Online terms, recently. |
Drake Draconis
Nexus Advanced Technologies
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2012.03.18 18:40:00 -
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Just changing the "name" accomplishes nothing and is too trivial to waste the dev's time on.
And your reasoning is a matter of interpretation.
Not supporting.
Oh and no one ever calls a missile centric ship a gun boat... Battlecruiser / Battleship makes a hell of a lot more sense at that rate.
Just look at the ships of the Navy.
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Anshio Tamark
Avitus Lugus
Ab Jove Principium
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Posted - 2012.03.19 10:49:00 -
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Not supported. Nobody is going to gain anything from this, and it won't change anything either.
Besides, neither the Drake nor the Myrmidon (coincidentally my two favorite Battlecruisers and the only two I ever fly/buy) are gun-boats. The Myrmidon is a Drone-Boat, the Drake is a Missile-Boat, every other Battlecruiser is a Gun-boat. Sure, the Myrmidon can utilize guns, but it doesn't get any kind of bonus to its guns.
At the moment, Gun-boat is one of three unofficial classifications that apply to multiple ship-types. We have Gun-Boats, which are ships that have good guns. We have Missile-Boats, which are ships with good missiles and we have Drone-Boats, which are ships with good drones, and then we have the Typhoon, which tries being all three and fails horribly at it.
Why should Battlecruisers suddenly be renamed Gun-Boats? It'll just create more confusion when people mention the word and actually talk about ships like the Rifter or Hurricane. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
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Posted - 2012.03.19 14:46:00 -
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I'd much rather "gunboat" be used for a T2 destroyer designed for killing swarms of frigates.
It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic
Tragedy.
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Posted - 2012.03.19 16:44:00 -
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Cruiser, Battlecruiser and Battleship are 3 different names with 3 different meanings for 3 different shiptypes with 3 different roles. Doesn't get much more different than that. No renaming of an entire class of ships is necessary.
Now the idea of "gunboats" as a new class of ship might be interesting. Needs a purpose to create them though...
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Rimase
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.19 17:32:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Now the idea of "gunboats" as a new class of ship might be interesting. Needs a purpose to create them though... Ok. Sounds cool.
> [Standard Gunboat] (T1, previously named "Destroyer")
>> [Advanced Gunboat] Destroyers (Specialized T2) - Rocket masters.
>> [Advanced Gunboat] Interdictors (Specialized T2) - Anti-warp masters. |
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Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic
Tragedy.
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Posted - 2012.03.19 17:50:00 -
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Rimase wrote:Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Now the idea of "gunboats" as a new class of ship might be interesting. Needs a purpose to create them though... Ok. Sounds cool. > [Standard Gunboat] ( T1, previously named "Destroyer") >> [Advanced Gunboat] Destroyers ( Specialized T2) - Multi-Rocket masters. >> [Advanced Gunboat] Interdictors ( Specialized T2) - Anti-Warp masters.
Apparently you just don't get it. Either that or you are trolling which is violating forum rules and I should report you.
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Rimase
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.19 18:02:00 -
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Don't like it? No need to be judgemental and unnecessary about a harmless post. Just say no and move on. Now please... It's a suggestion.
I considered the name 'Destroyer' as a titled specialized ship like most Specialized T2 are, and so I suggest Gunboat as being the more generic militarist impression as the new T1 standard of this group of spaceships.
Understand my perspective now? |
Drake Draconis
Nexus Advanced Technologies
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2012.03.19 18:46:00 -
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Rimase wrote:Don't like it? No need to be judgemental and unnecessary about a harmless post. Just say no and move on. Now please... It's a suggestion.
I considered the name 'Destroyer' as a titled specialized ship like most Specialized T2 are, and so I suggest Gunboat as being the more generic militarist impression as the new T1 standard of this group of spaceships.
Understand my perspective now?
You came here asking for an opinion and you got it....if YOU don't like it...then kindly walk away.
PS: If you can't take criticsim then don't expect mercy.
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Mechael
Team Pizza
Viro Mors Non Est
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Posted - 2012.03.20 10:33:00 -
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlecruiser
Any of that sound familiar?
It's a staple naming convention not just IRL, but also in a lot of spaceship fiction (even titles as big as Star Wars ... ever play TIE Fighter?)
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Ventro69
Manson Family
Corcoran State
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Posted - 2012.03.20 10:40:00 -
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****** suggestion. Burn post del... wait... wat?
Ventro69: There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
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Smiling Menace
Star Nebulae Holdings Inc.
212
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Posted - 2012.03.21 15:18:00 -
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Well the naming convention we currently have seems just fine.
Don't see the point of a pointless name change for the sake of it.
And just for your information, Gunboats would be most closely associated with Cruiser size ships and not Battlecruiser size. So you would actually be renaming the wrong ship class anyway and causing more :confusion:
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Blatant Forum Alt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.21 16:25:00 -
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If someone cannot tell the difference between a cruiser, a battlecruiser and a battleship, then Eve is the wrong game. Also, they should not be allowed to vote. Or breed. |
Jalmari Huitsikko
draketrain
Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
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Posted - 2012.03.24 07:43:00 -
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someone dig eyes out of my face
give back the old module names
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