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Myoga Fyre Minmatar Fight For Your Life	Posted - 2008.07.24 03:16:00 - [1] Do you think if I get 10k signatures from the players of EVE, minmatar slavery would end? Would CPP even recognize it and put into the news? I think the fact that slavery is still around in EVE is bull. If we have the power to stop it, we should. ================================================== I am a very curious fellow.
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.24 03:25:00 - [2] No, no, and you realize this is a game, right? Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
Goremageddon Box Minmatar Soldiers Of Mercy Valhalla Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.24 03:26:00 - [3] join FW and kill all amarr? _______________________ Hottest Character Ever.
Cambarus The Baros Syndicate	Posted - 2008.07.24 03:31:00 - [4] Change Hucklberry Finn! It has slaves too! Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Myoga Fyre Minmatar Fight For Your Life	Posted - 2008.07.24 03:48:00 - [5] I was just curious if we could truly change the game or if we were just by standers in a never changing universe. That and shut up Amarrian! ================================================== I am a very curious fellow.
Sakura Nihil Stimulus	Posted - 2008.07.24 04:04:00 - [6] facepalm Click me! You know you want to...
Artemis Rose Eleckrostatik	Posted - 2008.07.24 04:32:00 - [7] Probably not. Why should a pod pilot, an immortal with more personal ISK than entire regions of planets and billions of indivuals, care about the slavery of less beings that himself/herself. __________________________________________________ Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine. WTB Purple Nerf Bat.
Mara Rinn Minmatar	Posted - 2008.07.24 04:33:00 - [8] Originally by: Myoga Fyre I think the fact that slavery is still around in EVE is bull. If we have the power to stop it, we should. The pen may be mightier than the sword, but the 720mm Prototype 1 Siege Cannon trumps them both.
Myoga Fyre Minmatar Fight For Your Life	Posted - 2008.07.24 04:57:00 - [9] So then the only answer is join the Militia and fight? I was hoping there was a more civil way but the Minmatar blood flows strongly through me and it knows violence better than negotiation. ================================================== I am a very curious fellow.
Cambarus The Baros Syndicate	Posted - 2008.07.24 05:24:00 - [10] The blood of the minmatar flows through a lot of people, unfortunately the people through which the amarrian blood flows are notably better at pvp in eve (Ironically enough I fought alongside UK when they were defending Karishal's defiance and Unity Station, but then I fell in love with the abaddon ) Now I have slaves sitting in the middle of matari space, in a republic fleet station no less Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Nareth Mordonis	Posted - 2008.07.24 05:44:00 - [11] You know, it would be nice though if we could do something with slaves other than to trash them. Maybe like a free them button or a release option? I know it's just a game but I feel bad about just trashing them.
Myoga Fyre Minmatar Fight For Your Life	Posted - 2008.07.24 06:08:00 - [12] yeah...jettisoning them into space or recycling/trashing them doesn't seem like a good way to handle 'em. And selling them only completes the cycle :/ ================================================== I am a very curious fellow.
Taradis Amarr The Imperial Assassins Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2008.07.24 06:29:00 - [13] Negative Slavery is part of the Amarrian background which is why the amarr are always flamed in the RP forums I tend to think of myself as a Khanid first Amarrian second
adriaans Amarr The Movement	Posted - 2008.07.24 09:45:00 - [14] you could always go and shoot amarr, but be prepared for a facefull of tachyon beam lasers ;) that said, it's part of the history of amarr, and a very interesting history it is, so no taking it away, would take away a good aspect of it, amarr will always consider themselves better than the other races (and rightly so :P). I chose amarr as my starting race back when i started because they had awesome looking ships, but I've come to love my race as well as all the other races ships. It provides good options for roleplay, and since we can't actually enslave real matar players (or even NPC's (those icons (being slaves) in station doesn't count)) i see no reason to remove it :P -sig- Support the introduction of Blaze M crystals for Amarr!
Micia Minmatar Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.07.24 10:54:00 - [15] Originally by: Cambarus Ironically enough I fought alongside UK when they were defending Karishal's defiance and Unity Station, but then I fell in love with the abaddon ) Now I have slaves sitting in the middle of matari space, in a republic fleet station no less Noted.
Mendolus Gallente Aurelius Federation	Posted - 2008.07.24 19:09:00 - [16] Edited by: Mendolus on 24/07/2008 19:16:18 This reminds of that time I was watching C-Span (Yes, yes I was) during an open floor panel discussion about violence in television and some lady in her mid-forties came up to the microphone. She started rambling on about how she could not believe that the values, decency, and morals of the country had stooped so low that her kids could turn on the TV day or night, and watch Looney Tunes cartoons, rife with violence, with innocent animals being chased by malevolent wolves or cats, and all sorts of abhorrent behavior that was spoiling the good nature of her children and ruining the world. She wanted it all off the television stations, every last bit of it. While we're at it, let's ban the news channels, and in fact, let's just ignore real life in general, because it's just so rough, I dunno if our poor feeble mental and emotional states can handle it. I vote, ban real life! It's just so violent and... real! :gasp: Oh, I guess I should try to stay on topic, this is a game, slavery has historical significance and ignoring or trying to erase the memory of it is worse than addressing it, and the fact that the game provides you with the means to fight a fictional battle AGAINST slavery is pretty much brilliant IMO. So hop in a frigate, go off and pop some slave traders, and be proud of yourself. But claiming it's inclusion in the game is an affront to human society and universal rights and values is a joke at best. Mistakes are repeated when history is forgotten. {...and they will respect a line drawn in the sand more than forgiveness}
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.25 02:05:00 - [17] Your mistake was trying to take this out of game. CCP won't care what you do with an online petition (I don't think anyone does). But if you take your actions ingame, that's another matter. If you want to destroy the Amarr and all slavers with your ingame ships and rhetoric, more power to you. If you persuade a large enough amount of the playerbase to target these groups, you may actually make a difference with the game's story which CCP will recognize. But an online petition is definitely NOT the way to do this. Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
Pegleg Punk Minmatar	Posted - 2008.07.25 03:26:00 - [18] If slavery were to be removed, now, the Minmatar nation would have no hope in enslaving their usurpers. Leave slavery in game. Originally by: Naga Saddow [16:38:06] "i must admit for an ahole ur pretty funny"
Myoga Fyre Minmatar Fight For Your Life	Posted - 2008.07.25 05:03:00 - [19] Originally by: Mendolus Edited by: Mendolus on 24/07/2008 19:16:18 This reminds of that time I was watching C-Span (Yes, yes I was) during an open floor panel discussion about violence in television and some lady in her mid-forties came up to the microphone. She started rambling on about how she could not believe that the values, decency, and morals of the country had stooped so low that her kids could turn on the TV day or night, and watch Looney Tunes cartoons, rife with violence, with innocent animals being chased by malevolent wolves or cats, and all sorts of abhorrent behavior that was spoiling the good nature of her children and ruining the world. She wanted it all off the television stations, every last bit of it. While we're at it, let's ban the news channels, and in fact, let's just ignore real life in general, because it's just so rough, I dunno if our poor feeble mental and emotional states can handle it. I vote, ban real life! It's just so violent and... real! :gasp: Oh, I guess I should try to stay on topic, this is a game, slavery has historical significance and ignoring or trying to erase the memory of it is worse than addressing it, and the fact that the game provides you with the means to fight a fictional battle AGAINST slavery is pretty much brilliant IMO. So hop in a frigate, go off and pop some slave traders, and be proud of yourself. But claiming it's inclusion in the game is an affront to human society and universal rights and values is a joke at best. Mistakes are repeated when history is forgotten. I'm not talking about censoring or anything like that. Uncensore everything is my motto, but I'm saying that it would be cool if in game I could make a difference. I don't want slavery taken out of the game, I want me, in the game, to take it out. So...no don't censor the game, I'm not offended about slavery. I just wanted to see if enough Ammarrians petitioned against slavery with the Minmatar, if CCP would recognize that a majority of Amarians don't use slavery and are against it, thusly making slaves illegal. Of course if Amarrians don't want to get rid of slavery, there is always the Minmatar way of getting things done. And enslaving them is a good idea but only for as long as we were enslaved ================================================== I am a very curious fellow.
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.25 05:09:00 - [20] Originally by: Myoga Fyre Originally by: Mendolus Edited by: Mendolus on 24/07/2008 19:16:18 This reminds of that time I was watching C-Span (Yes, yes I was) during an open floor panel discussion about violence in television and some lady in her mid-forties came up to the microphone. She started rambling on about how she could not believe that the values, decency, and morals of the country had stooped so low that her kids could turn on the TV day or night, and watch Looney Tunes cartoons, rife with violence, with innocent animals being chased by malevolent wolves or cats, and all sorts of abhorrent behavior that was spoiling the good nature of her children and ruining the world. She wanted it all off the television stations, every last bit of it. While we're at it, let's ban the news channels, and in fact, let's just ignore real life in general, because it's just so rough, I dunno if our poor feeble mental and emotional states can handle it. I vote, ban real life! It's just so violent and... real! :gasp: Oh, I guess I should try to stay on topic, this is a game, slavery has historical significance and ignoring or trying to erase the memory of it is worse than addressing it, and the fact that the game provides you with the means to fight a fictional battle AGAINST slavery is pretty much brilliant IMO. So hop in a frigate, go off and pop some slave traders, and be proud of yourself. But claiming it's inclusion in the game is an affront to human society and universal rights and values is a joke at best. Mistakes are repeated when history is forgotten. I'm not talking about censoring or anything like that. Uncensore everything is my motto, but I'm saying that it would be cool if in game I could make a difference. I don't want slavery taken out of the game, I want me, in the game, to take it out. So...no don't censor the game, I'm not offended about slavery. I just wanted to see if enough Ammarrians petitioned against slavery with the Minmatar, if CCP would recognize that a majority of Amarians don't use slavery and are against it, thusly making slaves illegal. Of course if Amarrians don't want to get rid of slavery, there is always the Minmatar way of getting things done. And enslaving them is a good idea but only for as long as we were enslaved Wow, you really went about the worst possible way of demonstrating this. Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
Myoga Fyre Minmatar Fight For Your Life	Posted - 2008.07.25 05:19:00 - [21] I figured this topic is this close to catching fire and exploding into a flame fest so I just want to clear it up that I was asking a dumb question in a dumb way. I will now focus on minmatar missions and FW. ================================================== I am a very curious fellow.
Mendolus Gallente Aurelius Federation	Posted - 2008.07.25 17:38:00 - [22] Edited by: Mendolus on 25/07/2008 17:41:49 Originally by: Myoga Fyre I figured this topic is this close to catching fire and exploding into a flame fest so I just want to clear it up that I was asking a dumb question in a dumb way. I will now focus on minmatar missions and FW. Point taken, please in the future clarify what you mean by "online petition" because it came across as being absurdly naive and blown out of proportion. We appreciate you explaining what you really meant by your post. And on that note, per your idea, it would be ineffective to try to form an ingame petition of Amarr players because it would severely break with the lore as I highly doubt the ruling counsel of the Amarr would just up and give up eons of tradition because it's populous forms a non-violent coalition against said tradition. It would be more effective lore-wise if you formed an Amarr-only alliance of ingame corporations and tried to take back Amarr space in FW and then claim your stake and ideas against slavery after reclaiming Amarr space through the ingame FW lore. Then again, as some have noted above, CCP is still unlikely to be concerned or address the issue, as the ingame RP is just that, RP. {...and they will respect a line drawn in the sand more than forgiveness}
Sj01 No Slack	Posted - 2008.07.25 17:43:00 - [23] I wish you could capture them and make them work in mines.
Zuggy Fighter	Posted - 2008.07.25 17:50:00 - [24] The most peaceful option would be to join FW then jump into the middle of an amarr blob in a shuttle and say "Can't we all just get along?" They may even take pity on you and let you live, just be forewarned I'd laugh and blow you up, and I'm an ally.
Amandin Adouin	Posted - 2008.07.25 18:00:00 - [25] Edited by: Amandin Adouin on 25/07/2008 18:03:22 Ummm... F-U-K whitey? Down with 'The Man'? Power to your black brethern? Personally I think it's all due to the patriarchal death machine... the hegemony of white male imperialism... the um, tyranny of you know, man. Wow what I said doesn't even make sense.
Tiberius Rhavinia A MAGUS INDUSTRIES	Posted - 2008.07.27 17:20:00 - [26] Tiberius Rhavinia is an ex-federation navy pilot who turned traitor to fly for the Imperial Navy. He now cruises around low-sec searching for matari to destroy while always keeping a pack of slaver hounds and a pack of spirits in his cargohold. In all seriousness; an in-game petition by amarrian avatars would do nothing as it would be relativly easy for a large number of matari characters to make amarrian alts and then sign your petition. Besides, though powerful, pod pilots aren't likely to overturn millenia old tradtional intitutions.
Dirk Magnum Spearhead Endeavors	Posted - 2008.07.27 17:34:00 - [27] Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 27/07/2008 17:36:15 Originally by: Myoga Fyre Do you think if I get 10k signatures from the players of EVE, minmatar slavery would end? Would CPP even recognize it and put into the news? I think the fact that slavery is still around in EVE is bull. If we have the power to stop it, we should. First, no, I don't think that CCP will say that the Amarr have emancipated all their slaves. However CCP might take note of your efforts to get them to do that, especially if you had 10,000 signatures as you said. I think that you could get the RP community involved in this, as well as people such as myself who don't RP per se but still take some notice of the goings on in the Eve backstory. If you figure out a way to get 10,000 signatures (or something representing signatures) from verified Eve players I have no doubt that CCP would take notice. It'd be worth some kind of entry on the news page I'm sure. If you want to pursue this idea the people to talk to the more noteworthy Minmatar RP alliances and get some sort of announcement out about it in the Events board. It'd be a major undertaking but good luck if you try to do it.
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.27 19:15:00 - [28] Roleplay forum: Over there ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Gealbhan Caldari Infernal Syndicate	Posted - 2008.07.27 19:31:00 - [29] Originally by: Myoga Fyre Do you think if I get 10k signatures from the players of EVE, minmatar slavery would end? Would CPP even recognize it and put into the news? I think the fact that slavery is still around in EVE is bull. If we have the power to stop it, we should. What a pathetic attempt at trolling.
Rachel Silverside Caldari K Directorate	Posted - 2008.07.28 08:13:00 - [30] Edited by: Rachel Silverside on 28/07/2008 08:15:24 you could always start a corp that kills amarr npc's but if you made a petion the amarr would just ignore you and probably kill youand who ever said the pen is mightier than the sword obviously never encoutered automatic weapons. -------------------- veritas vos liberate
Xindi Kraid	Posted - 2008.07.28 10:23:00 - [31] Originally by: F'nog Your mistake was trying to take this out of game. CCP won't care what you do with an online petition (I don't think anyone does). But if you take your actions ingame, that's another matter. If you want to destroy the Amarr and all slavers with your ingame ships and rhetoric, more power to you. If you persuade a large enough amount of the playerbase to target these groups, you may actually make a difference with the game's story which CCP will recognize. But an online petition is definitely NOT the way to do this. Now see doing that kind of In game anti-slavery RP sounds fun. Out here on the forums sans RP its kinda lame. So yeah +1 for trying this in game. Now hurry up and create and abolitionist corp --Bird of Prey: Forum God Caveat Emptor Caveat Venditor CAVEAT
Reygrimm	Posted - 2008.07.30 20:25:00 - [32] I think they should have made it a type of FW objective. Say if Amarr get down to 0 (zero) controlled systems then they run a story stating that there are no more Minmatar slaves. Or for the mission runners, if you're Minmatar and grab slaves as your loot, give us a simple option to right click and 'free slaves'. Perhaps a minor faction gain %. Caldari/Gallente can have something similar. If Gallente take all of Caldari systems, then Caldari lose the rights to have missiles. Reygrimm
Tlalexa Ky	Posted - 2008.07.30 22:43:00 - [33] We should also have CCP abolish violence by removing all weapons from the game. This might make the game a little tedious but I think it's very important to restore peace to the entire universe ASAP.
Slade Hoo Amarr xPlaguex	Posted - 2008.07.31 03:52:00 - [34] Amarr doesn't need another nerf!
Buff Plankchest Minmatar	Posted - 2008.07.31 04:19:00 - [35] I liked my time in amarr slavery... those hot sexually starved amarr girls want that big bad Brutor
Syrion1984 Gallente PezCo - Ice Services	Posted - 2008.07.31 12:08:00 - [36] Know what, I'm going to create an Amarr character just because of this thread when I get home tonight
Neeros Caldari NailorTech Industries Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2008.08.01 12:43:00 - [37] I hope in ambulation we can get high res slave dancers to pole dance in our rooms fap fap fap
Naiqton	Posted - 2008.08.07 01:03:00 - [38] Anyways it would be cool if can do anything else with "freed slaves" not only trash if you dont want hold them for a game life. My dream about this: an attached mission... transport freed slaves to their home planet but its in deep 0.0 for high reward (if got in high sec mission), or just an option at right click "lets go free" or idk lol. Any idea from players? Any plan from CCP?
PaRaZiTuRL Amarr IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.08.07 06:40:00 - [39] Slaves? There are no slaves in Eve, just minmatars who are just good for picking my cotton in the morning.I love the feeling when you sip your quafe an look down at your... sl.. cotton pickers.Just makes the mornings feel special. Inappropriate signature removed. ~WeatherMan
Taradis Amarr The Imperial Assassins Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2008.08.07 09:19:00 - [40] Originally by: Neeros I hope in ambulation we can get high res slave dancers to pole dance in our rooms fap fap fap That would be great

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