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Syrinity
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Posted - 2008.07.26 21:02:00 -
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What are the pro's and con's and what would be better at t2 eventaully. Im just starting into them so I need to decide.
What has a better range vs damage and what is the starting range and maximum potential range.
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DubanFP
Caldari
Out of Order
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.07.26 21:11:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 26/07/2008 21:11:55
 Originally by: Syrinity
What are the pro's and con's and what would be better at t2 eventaully. Im just starting into them so I need to decide.
What has a better range vs damage and what is the starting range and maximum potential range.
Heavy launchers: Long range, effected by guided missile precision.
Heavy Assault Launchers: Shorter range. More damage. More PG usage.
Basically choose what you want to do and how much PG you have to spare. then pick the missiles accordingly.
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Reem Fairchild
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.07.26 21:14:00 -
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Heavy missiles: Longer range, heavier volley damage, less dps, and easier to fit.
Heavy Assault missiles: Shorter range, smaller volley damage, more dps, and takes up more powergrid to fit.
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Jim Raynor
Caldari
Shinra
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Posted - 2008.07.27 04:42:00 -
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If you are flying Caldari you can simply skip training for heavy assault missiles, for some unknown reason they aren't Caldari weapons I am told.
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Corstaad
Minmatar
Vardr ok Lidskjalv
Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.07.27 05:13:00 -
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Unless your in delayed 1vs1 fight volley dmg is very important. DPS looks great on paper but alpha/burst dmg is a better way to go in group pvp.
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DubanFP
Caldari
Out of Order
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.07.27 05:16:00 -
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Originally by: Jim Raynor
If you are flying Caldari you can simply skip training for heavy assault missiles, for some unknown reason they aren't Caldari weapons I am told.
heh. HAMS are caldari weapons. They were added to EVE after the fact. Putting them in somewhere would jsut screw with the current skilltree, that works.
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Jim Raynor
Caldari
Shinra
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Posted - 2008.07.27 05:34:00 -
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Edited by: Jim Raynor on 27/07/2008 05:35:30
Originally by: DubanFP
Originally by: Jim Raynor
If you are flying Caldari you can simply skip training for heavy assault missiles, for some unknown reason they aren't Caldari weapons I am told.
heh. HAMS are caldari weapons. They were added to EVE after the fact. Putting them in somewhere would jsut screw with the current skilltree, that works.
I'm aware, I crusaded for a long time to get them added to EVE, as cruisers did not have a high dps/lower range launcher akin to rockets/torpedoes for a very long time.
I am just bummed they don't fit on Caldari ships and every setup that uses them is completely gimped.
Next post or so should tell me to train for a Sacrilege if I want to use heavy assault launchers effectively, wait and see.
(where are you Gympio III???)
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Rexthor Hammerfists
The Movement
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Posted - 2008.07.27 07:26:00 -
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I have to disagree jim, the hamdrake is a very powerful ship, i really like mine.
While atm the cerb with hams is outperformed by the drake it may get its chance with the new mwd/ab changes, too.
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Jim Raynor
Caldari
Shinra
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Posted - 2008.07.27 07:39:00 -
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Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists
I have to disagree jim, the hamdrake is a very powerful ship, i really like mine.
While atm the cerb with hams is outperformed by the drake it may get its chance with the new mwd/ab changes, too.
uh drakes might be an exception i dont know, i dont fly it..
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Derek Sigres
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Posted - 2008.07.27 08:56:00 -
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Originally by: Jim Raynor
Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists
I have to disagree jim, the hamdrake is a very powerful ship, i really like mine.
While atm the cerb with hams is outperformed by the drake it may get its chance with the new mwd/ab changes, too.
uh drakes might be an exception i dont know, i dont fly it..
The problem with HAM's and caldari is they are PG hungy - and our ships have fairly weak PG output. As such fitting those HAM's along with the MWD and Extenders meant you need some VERY high fitting skills and in some cases a fitting mod to make it work. The HAM Drake is a notable exception to most of the rules about Caldari. It CAN fit the PVP gear of MWD, Point and Web, it CAN gank with reasonable output (600 DPS with good skills and faction ammo) and it CAN tank all at the same time.
To me, it would make more sense for the HAM's to be CPU hungry as caldari ships tend to have more CPU than average but then that would make fitting hardners/BCS etc a bit difficult (not to mention a nightmare for Khanid ship pilots).
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Poision Kevin
Amarr
Cult of Death
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Posted - 2008.07.27 09:41:00 -
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tip of te day: u actuly dont need to use reactor controll units use rigs instead the prob is that the rigs are sellig for around 28 mil in amarr
i'm looking for players that want a good corp!
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Felix Dzerzhinsky
Caldari
Wreckless Abandon
Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.07.27 09:54:00 -
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With an exception for some HAM drake fits, for the most part:
Sac HAM > Cerb HAM
HM Cerb > HM Sac
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With regards to the Nighthawk, unless its PG is boosted, you cannot fit a HAM setup decently.
So to answer your question: the ship choses the wepons sytem best suited for it (with the Drake exception).
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