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Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.07.28 15:53:00 - [31] Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 28/07/2008 15:53:52 Originally by: soldieroffortune258 Post 1 Linkage Made Easy by Dietrich and co. Linkage made easy by Dietrich and co. Linkage made easy by Dietrich and co. Linkage made easy by Dietrich and co. post 12 Linkage made easy by Dietrich and co. Linkage made easy by Dietrich and co. Post 21 Linkage made easy by Dietrich and co. post 26 Linkage made easy by Dietrich and co. Linkage made easy by Dietrich and co. Linkage made easy by Dietrich and co. Originally by: Zephyr Rengate post 24 Linkage made easy Dietrich and co. I'm gonna have to make an instructional video on how to make linky's.
Plumpy McPudding	Posted - 2008.07.28 16:00:00 - [32] This thread is now about mascot bloopers. __________________________ Fear me for I have an insatiable appetite! Proprietor and inventor of Chocolate Chip Chocolate Donut flavored Ice Cream.
Mark Lucius Kinetic Vector	Posted - 2008.07.28 16:01:00 - [33] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich I'm gonna have to make an instructional video on how to make linky's. I am sure you'll have no trouble linking it here. ---
Mazzarins Demise Profit Development and Research Association	Posted - 2008.07.28 16:17:00 - [34] While I wish death and destruction upon those who wrought it upon the innocents, increasing jail time and punishment will not deter crime. It doesn't matter how high you set the punishments, people will still be desperate enough to do them. When the day comes when the chance of punishing an innocent reaches zero, then you may have an argument. If not, then no.
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2008.07.28 16:21:00 - [35] Edited by: YouGotRipped on 28/07/2008 16:27:54 So the OP is really sick... what's new? Prison never made anyone better. It is a failure of the society to understand the limitations of certain individuals and act accordingly. Motherships
soldieroffortune 258	Posted - 2008.07.28 16:28:00 - [36] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 28/07/2008 15:53:52 Originally by: soldieroffortune258 Post 1 Linkage Made Easy by Dietrich and co. Linkage made easy by Dietrich and co. Linkage made easy by Dietrich and co. Linkage made easy by Dietrich and co. post 12 Linkage made easy by Dietrich and co. Linkage made easy by Dietrich and co. Post 21 Linkage made easy by Dietrich and co. post 26 Linkage made easy by Dietrich and co. Linkage made easy by Dietrich and co. Linkage made easy by Dietrich and co. Originally by: Zephyr Rengate post 24 Linkage made easy Dietrich and co. I'm gonna have to make an instructional video on how to make linky's. please do, lol
soldieroffortune 258	Posted - 2008.07.28 16:32:00 - [37] Edited by: soldieroffortune 258 on 28/07/2008 16:35:48 Originally by: Machimpy Edited by: Machimpy on 28/07/2008 15:21:35 Quote: honestly i think that woman's husband and family would laugh at that guy if he were the one screaming like a little ***** after murdering a woman and her child, and wouldnt think twice about it, and if YOU or ANYONE thinks otherwise, idk how you sleep at night, knowing a gang of thugs beat an old man to death for his watch, or his nice classic car, and maybe you should be locked up as well, and actually i think the death penalty might be to easy on them, maybe they SHOULD live the rest of their pathetic lives out in russian prisons, and when there 60 (if they live that long) and getting beat by the guards, they will konw how the man they beat to death felt It's not about good or bad you ejaculating moron. Sounds like you could do with a hug though. Go see your mother or something. im sorry to put it so bluntly, and i guess graphically, but this is simply the world we live in, if the criminals only understand violence, as i said before, why not respond in kind ten fold, it would at least make them think before thinking about doing it again, lol EDIT: why are people resorting to name calling and insults now? i have not insulted anyone on this board, lol
Tarminic 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.07.28 16:34:00 - [38] Vast oversimplification of the problem of crime and hilarious ignorance in this thread. ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3)
Machimpy	Posted - 2008.07.28 16:43:00 - [39] Edited by: Machimpy on 28/07/2008 16:47:30 Quote: EDIT: why are people resorting to name calling and insults now? i have not insulted anyone on this board, lol Because you'd use every excuse to say that kind of crap to pleasure yourself with when people do. Quote: as i said before, why not respond in kind ten fold, it would at least make them think before thinking about doing it again, lol Like I said, you also need hug.
soldieroffortune 258	Posted - 2008.07.28 16:50:00 - [40] Originally by: YouGotRipped Edited by: YouGotRipped on 28/07/2008 16:30:23 So the OP is really sick... what's new? Prison never made anyone better. It is a failure on behalf of the society to understand the limitations of certain individuals and act accordingly. ok, could you suggest an "alternate rehabilitation plan" to someone who gets drunk and high and smashes into a bus stop of people (not graphic, and something that has been happening here in vegas the last few years) what are we going to do with that person that won't "hurt the offender's feelings"? but still punish him for doing something stupid? please enlighten everyone on a way where no one will get hurt, not the drunk/high driver who knew what he was doing when he started taking shots and lighting up, and wont hurt the family of the victim either (we dont have to worry about that person that is dead/sent to the hospital do we?)

Machimpy	Posted - 2008.07.28 16:57:00 - [41] Edited by: Machimpy on 28/07/2008 16:57:42 Quote: ok, could you suggest an "alternate rehabilitation plan" to someone who gets drunk and high and smashes into a bus stop of people (not graphic, and something that has been happening here in vegas the last few years) what are we going to do with that person that won't "hurt the offender's feelings"? but still punish him for doing something stupid? please enlighten everyone on a way where no one will get hurt, not the drunk/high driver who knew what he was doing when he started taking shots and lighting up, and wont hurt the family of the victim either (we dont have to worry about that person that is dead/sent to the hospital do we?) You're close to answering your own questions here, how are WE supposed to respond to this?
soldieroffortune 258	Posted - 2008.07.28 17:00:00 - [42] Originally by: Tarminic Vast oversimplification of the problem of crime and hilarious ignorance in this thread. i konw, all i did was post a video of what i think is proper justice, and some other funny videos' and people start the name calling cant say your opinion these days w/out being swarmed by the masses of people who disagree, and start the name calling someone busting themselves on a pole is funny, and i get a: Originally by: Zephyr Rengate Oh wow you seem you like a total ****** laughing at peoples injuries however stupid the person may have been to get themselves injured. overall your a jackass** http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=mtvjackass so now other people's simple misfortunes cant even be laughed at (those are like 80% of the best jokes), woohoo, if i busted myself on a pole, i would get laughed at without remorse by my friends AND family my girlfriend hit me downstairs with some brass knuckles one time (she said she was trying to hit my knee, and my brother had trouble breathing he was laughing so hard, it hurt, but you konw what? i laughed at it afterwards, then laughed at him, when i turned the washer on "hot" while he was in the shower, when i snuck into his house
soldieroffortune 258	Posted - 2008.07.28 17:06:00 - [43] Edited by: soldieroffortune 258 on 28/07/2008 17:07:08 Originally by: Machimpy Edited by: Machimpy on 28/07/2008 16:57:42 Originally by: YouGotRipped Edited by: YouGotRipped on 28/07/2008 16:30:23 So the OP is really sick... what's new? Prison never made anyone better. It is a failure on behalf of the society to understand the limitations of certain individuals and act accordingly. Quote: ok, could you suggest an "alternate rehabilitation plan" to someone who gets drunk and high and smashes into a bus stop of people (not graphic, and something that has been happening here in vegas the last few years) what are we going to do with that person that won't "hurt the offender's feelings"? but still punish him for doing something stupid? please enlighten everyone on a way where no one will get hurt, not the drunk/high driver who knew what he was doing when he started taking shots and lighting up, and wont hurt the family of the victim either (we dont have to worry about that person that is dead/sent to the hospital do we?) You're close to answering your own questions here, how are WE supposed to respond to this? fixed it for you, convienant how you left out the post i was asking that question to i was giving him the chance to suggest an alternate way of "rehabilitating" criminals since my way is obviously without a question and doubt going to fail, and since the criminal's "feelings" would be hurt lol im leaving this thread ducks his head and darts for the door, while angry sensationolists, and the politically correct masses throw bricks at him*
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2008.07.28 17:07:00 - [44] I have to finish eating my french fries. Just a moment. Motherships
Machimpy	Posted - 2008.07.28 17:20:00 - [45] Quote: i konw, all i did was post a video of what i think is proper justice, and some other funny videos' and people start the name calling cant say your opinion these days w/out being swarmed by the masses of people who disagree, and start the name calling You placed those videos in the form and intent of imposing your will to us, much like the behaviour of the same people you want in prison for, quote: Quote: no, and hell no if they murder someone i konw, or anyone for that matter notice i said that murderers and child rapists should be sent to russian prisons, and maybe even drug dealers, since they are selling *******, crack, ect, which is hurting people (despite the fact that those people are using it, what justifies you capitalizing on someone killing themselves slowly, if you value life so much, why allow the people that are giving them the means to kill themselves out in public?) p.s. child rapists and murderers forfeit their humanity once they murder an old man for his nice watch; or that guy sodimizes a little 8 year girl because he cant seduce an adult woman so therfore, murderers and child rapists = rabid animals that need to be put down Therefore we respond to you asking you to stop treating your own opinion like a drug as it may be affecting all of us, like you said. The bus stop peeps thank you in advance for keeping off yourself a bit.
Machimpy	Posted - 2008.07.28 17:32:00 - [46] Edited by: Machimpy on 28/07/2008 17:32:49 Quote: i was giving him the chance to suggest an alternate way of "rehabilitating" criminals since my way is obviously without a question and doubt going to fail, and since the criminal's "feelings" would be hurt and since the criminal's "feelings" would be hurt Starting a thread with a biased material you have devotion for has never been a smart move for discussion as it may hide intents of imposture.
YouGotRipped Ewigkeit	Posted - 2008.07.28 18:11:00 - [47] Edited by: YouGotRipped on 28/07/2008 18:14:05 Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 Originally by: YouGotRipped Edited by: YouGotRipped on 28/07/2008 16:30:23 So the OP is really sick... what's new? Prison never made anyone better. It is a failure on behalf of the society to understand the limitations of certain individuals and act accordingly. [...] but still punish him for doing something stupid? please enlighten everyone on a way where no one will get hurt, not the drunk/high driver who knew what he was doing when he started taking shots and lighting up, and wont hurt the family of the victim either (we dont have to worry about that person that is dead/sent to the hospital do we?) In case you haven't realized I was suggesting preemptive measures. Drunk driver case: All new car models will feature an alcohol testing device that would not allow the car to start/move unless the test results are within acceptable parameters. GPS assisted onboard computer that will automatically adjust speed to the road's difficulty, trafic and weather conditions / or even parts of the roads where accidents happened with an increased frequency. The governments could allocate more money to training / retraining programs to ensure that each and everyone of us has a job and thus a place in the society. Healthy education system that ensure kids understand the risks and consequences of certain actions and better prepares them to meet life's challenges. Responsible parents that will not have 15 kids unless they can afford raising and supporting such a big family. Controlling aggression. Did you know aggression could have genetic or hormonal causes? Those people can be helped by counseling or even proper medicamentation. Genetics has come a long way since charting the human genome has been completed. It is estimated that in the near future we'll be able to change the color of our eyes just by taking pills etc. And if all of the above fails: Video surveillance at every corner - has done wonders for reducing criminality levels in UK. Motherships
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.07.28 18:18:00 - [48] Originally by: YouGotRipped And if all of the above fails: Video surveillance at every corner - has done wonders for reducing criminality levels in UK. Plus it makes for easy amusement when your bored at work. We've got like 30 or so spread around the city and I like sort through to see what people are up to
Tarminic 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.07.28 18:38:00 - [49] Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 Originally by: Tarminic Vast oversimplification of the problem of crime and hilarious ignorance in this thread. i konw, all i did was post a video of what i think is proper justice, and some other funny videos' and people start the name calling cant say your opinion these days w/out being swarmed by the masses of people who disagree, and start the name calling Welcome to the internet? ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3)
Highwind Cid	Posted - 2008.07.28 19:55:00 - [50] Originally by: Davina Braben If punishments of this sort really cut back on crime why do these countries still have to enact them? Why is Russia not at the bottom for these statistics? http://www.nationmaster.com/country/rs-russia/cri-crime&b_define=1 Russian jails have been like that longer than "2 or 3 years". Iran have been executing people in the most grizzly public fashion for the longest time too and it doesn't seem to have dried up crime there either. They're hanging drug dealers but they come #2 on these figures for drug trafficking. Could it be that harshness of punishment alone does not form an effective deterrent and that by their very nature the levels of some kinds of crime are not really affected by deterrent measures? Curses. Back to the drawing board. To sum yours up either way the crime levels remain the same, even with, or without the 'bad' punishment. Well at least with executions there's that less many mouths to feed and people to sell the stuff.

Highwind Cid	Posted - 2008.07.28 19:57:00 - [51] Originally by: Zephyr Rengate Originally by: Remata Lakira Edited by: Remata Lakira on 28/07/2008 01:42:56 Originally by: Zephyr Rengate I'm not even gonna post a serious reply in this thread. So heres my answer, your solution causes nothing but other problems. Maybe, but being soft on criminals has also caused quite a few problems: - The rights of criminals valued more than the rights of victims - Lack of deterrant for potential criminals - When a loved one of yours will be brutally ****d and/or by a 'gangsa' type who just wanted to have fun you will want to feel secure in the knowledge that this offender will suffer greatly. However, the current system will most likely make you feel as if the criminal won, despite going to prison. Every solution opens up a can of worms. What this comes down to is do we want to feel like bad things happen to bad people, or do we want to feel like we work our asses off being law-abiding citizens just so that the government can take a percentage of your wages and use it to treat criminals in a humane manner? Criminals should not be treated like humans? Exactly, beat them like the diseases they are. Clean up the gene pool. Afterall don't the bums in northern America purposefully get jail sentences to escape the cold winters. Not bad. 2 star hotel with free clothing and food.
Tarminic 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.07.28 20:31:00 - [52] Originally by: Highwind Cid Exactly, beat them like the diseases they are. Clean up the gene pool. Afterall don't the bums in northern America purposefully get jail sentences to escape the cold winters. Not bad. 2 star hotel with free clothing and food. Last time I checked, people convicted of a crime still have human rights under the rule of law. Homeless people using jail as a free home doesn't have a damn thing to do with crime, it has to do with homelessness. Is that fact a failure of our justice system to punish criminals or a failure of society to ensure that people aren't homeless? ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3)


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