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YORK CRAFT
Caldari
KRAFTWERK
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Posted - 2008.07.29 19:11:00 -
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 Originally by: Chronos VIII
It would be great to get some information from ccp on how many people actually participating in factional warfare in my opinion.
Productive Link, Joakim. Not working, but can be typed in manually till you edit, np.
Originally by: Mattduk
Where do you think he learned the English he does know? 
This. Spent to much time withs dem ivil SI, mOo and Biomass in Aunnenen and passari low sec that ol days.
But my favourite so far is pilot Gence Hal : dry, quite smart and very moderate for a Goon. Gimme mo!
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Marlenus, - good points, m8. Indeed, trust grows in FW.
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Solar Typhon, sure thing, would be great to have a ppl Pirate Fraction implemented in FW - I like spiced food.
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And Onionico ... erm ... let me think. Well, I support that kind of spirit. You are excused, keep it going.
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Evil Synns, very nice signature, I have to admit. I love them shiny red neutralisers in background. Hope not you can update this signature with a Final Blow one day.
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Exactly Sinder Ohm 07
ps: Forgive me, peeps. Didnt want to quote every single one, so I made it that way. Stil first page, should'nt be a problem.
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Frank Monkey
dearg doom
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Posted - 2008.07.30 12:47:00 -
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Edited by: Frank Monkey on 30/07/2008 12:54:50
Edited by: Frank Monkey on 30/07/2008 12:52:40
Edited by: Frank Monkey on 30/07/2008 12:50:26
To echo what Evil said.
Its been great as an 0.0 pilot to play in the FW side of the game.
Slightly dyslexic-pimp-my-ride-dawg OP. Even monkeys can write better English than that.
Some very good PvP corps will emerge I believe out of FW and many novices will be turned into combat pilots from it. FC'ing in 0.0 has more complexities, so though people may get their start at this in FW, they will still have a lot to learn in the 0.0 arena.
Dearg Doom are already a burgeoning PvP corp, started to reap the FW crop. We will no doubt move up to 0.0 at some time. But it's too much fun at the minute...
Franko - Monkey of Doom
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Zapsus
Amarr
Tritanium Transportations
R.H.I.N.O.
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Posted - 2008.07.30 14:22:00 -
[33]
Good morning YORK CRAFT,
the following part is analised well: "Analysis : Overall FW pilots abilities R quite decent. Indeed Outstanding in 50% of cases and very skilled. Wide range of warefare tactics, also cause of no bubbles ( sure, they R usefull in claiming systems and in cutting support not only in allie warefare, so nothing against bubbles, peeps ). Huge fleets as well as smaler gangs involved willin to kill and/or die. Professional FCs leading battles coming along quite frequently every day."
Please, learn to write grammatically sound, because you write grammatically unsound. German: "Der Englisch Unterricht im Gymnasium wurde von YORK CRAFT nicht bestanden."
Yours sincerely,
Zapsus
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Xol'tan
dearg doom
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Posted - 2008.07.30 18:13:00 -
[34]
10 more kills frank! anyway fw is fun but plexes are boring caldari are very plex focused and it shows but we gall will have the fun of takeing them back when theres actualy a reward to it.
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Ugluuk
Caldari
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.07.31 15:51:00 -
[35]
Originally by: YORK CRAFT
Analysis :
Cant hear no mo some, I said some!, of them 2 year old Alliance-Toons : oh FW? ---> noob da noobie nub nub Black Rise noob ship Sandbox. Wtf, wanne dance?
I started reading your post but when i came here all i could think about was fo ****zle dizzle nizzle and low hanging **** my brother!
You need more metal in your life man..
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BaconLL
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.31 19:41:00 -
[36]
It is official. CCP now confirms: FW is dying
One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered FW community when CCP confirmed that FW pilot numbers has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all pilots. Coming on the heels of a recent forum survey which plainly states that FW has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. FW is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent EVE Politics test.
You don't need to be the YORK CRAFT to predict FW's future. The hand writing is on the wall: FW faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for FW because FW is dying. Things are looking very bad for FW. As many of us are already aware, FW continues to lose pilots. Red ink flows like a river of blood.
Caldari is the most endangered of them all, having lost 25% of its core PVPers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time Caldari PVPers Boromor and RapidTaco only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FW is dying.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
CCP leader Theo states that there are 7000 users on CAOD. How many users of FW are there? Let's see. The number of 0.0 versus FW posts on CAOD is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 FW posters. TROLL posts on CAOD are about half of the volume of TOTAL posts. Therefore there are about 700 TRUE FW pilots.
All major surveys show that FW has steadily declined in market share. FW is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If FW is to survive at all it will be among Carebear dabblers. FW continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, FW is dead.
Fact: FW is dying
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Arodi
Caldari
0rdo Batavi
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Posted - 2008.08.01 10:39:00 -
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Then what would it need to survive? Control over nulsec territories represents definite rewards; FW should offer reward for the players involved. There shud be a Killboard, there should be designated forum section away from here where members of the different factions can post their battle reports, discuss them, flame away at eachother and start their feuds, rivalries, vendettas or in 1 word: competition. The fact that killboards and FW stats all have to come from player made inet pages says CCP isnt giving Empryan Age the proper backup. Doing a half job there.
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Steyr Daghan
thx for all the fish
Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2008.08.01 11:28:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Arodi
Then what would it need to survive? Control over nulsec territories represents definite rewards; FW should offer reward for the players involved.
No, you are wrong. FW is working just fine for it's intended purpose. It's not broken, it does exactly what it's supposed to do.
FW is kindergarden pvp for carebears. They already have ample rewards: shiny badges and ranks that they can show to even nubbier nubs who will get really impressed.
FW is to carebears what a SUV is to an accountant. You dont need killboards and sov rewards for that to work.
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dojocan81
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Posted - 2008.08.01 11:46:00 -
[39]
to fight for Mordu's, Guristas, Angels etc is the future of fw...
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Arodi
Caldari
0rdo Batavi
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Posted - 2008.08.01 12:11:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Steyr Daghan
FW is kindergarden pvp for carebears. They already have ample rewards: shiny badges and ranks that they can show to even nubbier nubs who will get really impressed.
Wow, that sounds like fun. You know what, I'll hop right on it. Broken or not, I dont care. If too many sign out it must be no fun, and if it aint that, then whats the point of trying at it in a game.
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YORK CRAFT
Caldari
KRAFTWERK
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Posted - 2008.08.01 13:02:00 -
[41]
Originally by: BaconLL
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
Yes, I urge you to do that, not based on a speculative CAOD trackdown, but on verified data provided with Joakim Wasyl's linky.
And even there are ups and downs in the graphs, that's nothing but normal, because its always the same : in the first Phase of FW, lots of ppl are jumping on it ( and some of them are just curious ), then theres a natural down, and after that, it starts to grow again. Atm, ppl numbers in FW are back growing. There is and will be a constant flow. - Anyways, Im not here to defend anything and any further intel on that is welcome.
Originally by: BaconLL
Fact: FW is dying.
Oh really. - As I already said : expect FW corps to merge within FW and/or leave it to head for 0.0. Plus, lot of captains will be recruited out of FW into corps and alliances ( Btw, there are Killboards for every Fraction, showing individual skills ).
Sorry, all I see is a natural flow, not FW dying on longterm.
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I agree with Arodi's argument, that rewards in FW should be pushed-up. E.g. atm, for pvpers theres only loot ...
/me points to captain Steyr Daghan ... and/or a wardec, dude.
Ships are exploding same way as they do in 0.0 and must be replaced. Besides the fact, that you and your corp, Mr. Daghan, can hide in your alliance ( Im not saying, that alliances are made exclusively for that special kind of purpose. Its just a sideeffect, that is NOT working in FW.
But no worries, any statement is welcome. Keep it up.
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Arodi
Caldari
0rdo Batavi
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Posted - 2008.08.02 10:14:00 -
[42]
Originally by: YORK CRAFT
there are Killboards for every Fraction, showing individual skills.
N which do you mean here?
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Corstaad
Minmatar
Vardr ok Lidskjalv
Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.08.02 16:30:00 -
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FW promotes gang warfare in "dead" regions. Your ******ed if you think this makes quality gaming.
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Arodi
Caldari
0rdo Batavi
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Posted - 2008.08.05 14:12:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Corstaad
FW promotes gang warfare in "dead" regions. Your ******ed if you think this makes quality gaming.
Apearantly it gets ppl there otherwise nonexistant 1v1s and beats gatecamping in 0.0
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SwindonBadger
0utbreak
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Posted - 2008.08.05 20:18:00 -
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Well I can tell u that the quality of the average fw pvper is less then the average 0.0 dweller... however its not been around very long and that gap is changing rapidly week by week.
I can tell u from someone who cares only about fighting its better then 0.0 in terms of mechanics. I used to love flying a sabre and bubling lagre groupse of folks but the flip side was I would have to work maybe 3 hours to go 15 jumps in an inty when solo. Since most small plexes u can capture only allow friges ect u can get past many road blocks with ease. Letteting there be action even when things look one sided.
Most 0.0 features ( bubles, posses and cyno chains ) by there nature increase the blob/lag factor. They really seem to be trying to push for (CCP) a more broken up way to decrease numbers.
I am seeing a few recent reports of capitol fights of 100 with no lagg? I really hope so, I do miss being in 0.0 :) but not when I think of lag and posses, just the small skirmish stuff or old school fleet fights.
I can highly recomend FW if u want to log in to a good days hunting and feasting on frozen yet warm corpses. Though I only look at this from the mimi arrmar side ( some of the recent rr arrmar gangs I rate higher then some allainces I got to eat ). Caldari gallent looks a bit lag blobier.
anyway this is my last ileagle ramble on here, I just wanted to say that inty fighting without bubles is back in and that is my most favourite kind of battle so for me its a little slice of old school heaven soon to be enhanced by the much need nanno nanoo nerf.
I garranti u the rails ranis will become more powerful the u can possibly imagine if they can bring snake inties under 10 k again./
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Solar Typhon
R.U.S.T.
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Posted - 2008.08.05 22:57:00 -
[46]
Originally by: SwindonBadger
Edited by: SwindonBadger on 05/08/2008 20:31:18
Well the quality of the average fw pvper is less then the average 0.0 dweller... however its not been around very long and that gap is changing rapidly week by week.
I can tell u from someone who cares only about fighting its better then 0.0 in terms of mechanics. I used to love flying a sabre and bubling lagre groupse of folks but the flip side was u would have to work maybe 3 hours to go 15 jumps in an inty when solo. Since most small plexes u can capture only allow friges ect u can get past many road blocks with ease. Letteting there be action even when things look one sided.
Most 0.0 features ( bubles, posses and cyno chains ) by there nature increase the blob/lag factor. They really seem to be trying to push for (CCP) a more broken up way to decrease numbers.
I am seeing a few recent reports of capitol fights of 100 with no lagg? I really hope so, I do miss being in 0.0 :) but not when I think of lag and posses, just the small skirmish stuff or old school fleet fights.
I can highly recomend FW if u want to log in to a good days hunting and feasting on frozen yet warm corpses. Though I only look at this from the mimi arrmar side ( some of the recent rr arrmar gangs I rate higher then some allainces I got to eat ). Caldari gallent looks a bit lag blobier.
anyway this is my last ileagle ramble on here, I just wanted to say that inty fighting without bubles is back in and that is my most favourite kind of battle so for me its a little slice of old school heaven soon to be enhanced by the much need nanno nanoo nerf.
I garranti u the rails ranis will become more powerful the u can possibly imagine if they can bring snake inties under 10 k again./
Do you have a farmers accent?
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CheezMatarBurger
No Dukt Teip
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:19:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Solar Typhon
Do you have a farmers accent?
I do...
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Enjia Fullblood
Gallente
Black Serpent Technologies
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.08.11 19:29:00 -
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FW is the most pointless thing ever made, you can't go into enemy high-sec. you can't gain any space, and you just lose ships. it's fun Pvping up until the point you realize YOU GAIN NOTHING.
if you want a PvP game go play team fortress 2, same effect.
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Mira O'karr
Minmatar
Templars of Space
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Posted - 2008.08.11 21:24:00 -
[49]
Edited by: Mira O''karr on 11/08/2008 21:24:16
i joined a militia for a couple of hours yesterday and it was shite.
i mean, it was really really bad...
it was .. ugh nevermind. i suppose it is better they pvp then mission ho.
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Onionico
Series of Tubes
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Posted - 2008.08.12 05:29:00 -
[50]
Edited by: Onionico on 12/08/2008 05:31:09
Originally by: Enjia Fullblood
FW is the most pointless thing ever made, you can't go into enemy high-sec. you can't gain any space, and you just lose ships. it's fun Pvping up until the point you realize YOU GAIN NOTHING.
I personally don't want to "gain" anything other than lots and lots of kills. 500 a month or so. Does pvp always have to be about isk?
Tbh, 0.0 large scale alliance warfare is so laggy it borders on unplayable. At least in FW you can reliably log in, get a solid 30 on 30 - and get on with your life. Just my opinion of course, but FW rocks my socks off.
Edit - Props to outbreak (in mimmie militia) for being an awful lot of fun to tangle with. Classy gents.
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S3dINSTBE
Just Another Indy Corp
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Posted - 2008.08.12 09:28:00 -
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YORK CRAFT is the new Kuzim Blaky'all. Ya herd?
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Leinad tir
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Posted - 2008.08.12 11:53:00 -
[52]
Originally by: BaconLL
It is official. CCP now confirms: FW is dying
One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered FW community when CCP confirmed that FW pilot numbers has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all pilots. Coming on the heels of a recent forum survey which plainly states that FW has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. FW is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent EVE Politics test.
You don't need to be the YORK CRAFT to predict FW's future. The hand writing is on the wall: FW faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for FW because FW is dying. Things are looking very bad for FW. As many of us are already aware, FW continues to lose pilots. Red ink flows like a river of blood.
Caldari is the most endangered of them all, having lost 25% of its core PVPers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time Caldari PVPers Boromor and RapidTaco only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FW is dying.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
CCP leader Theo states that there are 7000 users on CAOD. How many users of FW are there? Let's see. The number of 0.0 versus FW posts on CAOD is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 FW posters. TROLL posts on CAOD are about half of the volume of TOTAL posts. Therefore there are about 700 TRUE FW pilots.
All major surveys show that FW has steadily declined in market share. FW is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If FW is to survive at all it will be among Carebear dabblers. FW continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, FW is dead.
Fact: FW is dying
Can u say more time FW is dying in a post? its a hard challenge...
So u have eve statics about the percentage of troll post on CAOD, the percentage of hardcore gamers loosed by Caldari, and a lot more of hilarious "studies" lol must be a complicated algorithm to calculate so accurately those relative numbers.
That post its so funny keep it up.
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YORK CRAFT
Caldari
KRAFTWERK
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Posted - 2008.08.12 12:18:00 -
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Originally by: S3dINSTBE
YORK CRAFT is the new Kuzim Blaky'all. Ya herd?
Hahaha, nice. Kuzim is da "must read" fo yo allz da nu eden ghetto peeps. In fuct, hes da nu kid on da block. - Am da olda Tuppic Posta! (oh noes, cant believe this is happening to me : I hate ghetto-cap-da-rap-nap-map-wtf-shitz. Im a minimal progressive electro dude. I like Kraftwerk).
Back on Topic : FW has no borders. Nothing in EVE has borders. Why not bust some bored 0.0 gatecamps? Or is this an out of FW-Sandbox mechanic? Btw, I think, we already got some very interesting 0.0 invites for a decent old school Party in here, thx for that.
Oh, and just for info : Pos/Cap warefare already took place in FW.
/me points to Outbreak.
I know Outbreak as a quality pvp-corp, always looking for quality fights. - Well, Im sure, in FW they get what they deserve : insta-fun with some brain.
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Funkcikle
Gallente
MicroFunks
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Posted - 2008.08.13 10:11:00 -
[54]
NEWSFLASH!
Not only is factional Warfare dying, everyone IN factional warfare is dying (GASP)
Yes, thats right, Our Department of Made up statistics estimates 100% of FW players have less than 70 or 80 years to live.
Moar news at 10
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Lord WarATron
Amarr
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.13 10:23:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Joakim Wasyl
FW Statistics
You know something is wrong with FW if Danial Jackson is rated number 1 all time player........
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Faekurias
Black Legion Command
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Posted - 2008.08.13 11:12:00 -
[56]
Didn't really read OP, but the last two (above) posts made me chuckle 
We are recruiting.
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Wraithstorm
Armada.
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Posted - 2008.08.13 12:50:00 -
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There are definitely some misconceptions about FW. As a veteran pvper and FC I can tell you that what drew me to it was the ability to get a fight without having to go 15+ jumps. I quite enjoy watching tacklers test their mettle without the "I-win" button that are dictors/heavy Dictors. I also enjoy the ability to pewpew without having to worry about a DD going off around me. Small skirmishes, and dogfight are something you can see at every gate/complex station and its quite refreshing.
As was stated earlier, the average skillpoint/experience level of a FW pilot is likely less then that of a 0.0 pilot, however it doesnt take away from the fact that there have been and will be some truly epic battles fought. The one thing about FW that I dont like is that it is infact an isk sink. This is fine with me and most other veterans who either have isk to spend or have established an isk making scheme such as missions, mining, or 0.0 Ninja ratting, but for those truly new to the game and pvp FW can be a dangerous lull. Ofc Corporations are becoming more hip to this and are establishing ways of generating revenue as are individual pilots.
You would be amazed at how many veteran fighters, and FCs actually play in the FW arena, not on alts but on their mains. I believe FW has a solid future. CCP ofc need to add a little bit of enticement to the bag, but its already been stated that FW will be worked on so I look forward to seeing what they come up with. Right or wrong CCP definitely keep the game interesting.
I mean seriously where else can a guy go in a plated Vexor and get 3 kills before going down in a blaze of glooooooory!!!
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Cosmic Raider
The Archaeological Squirrel Society
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Posted - 2008.08.13 23:59:00 -
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I think FW is a success. There are many people, like me, who spent little time in low sec PvPing because we were trying to figure the game out, make some money, etc. I spend more time in low sec every day now than I did in all my few months in Eve before FW started.
FW makes the game alot more fun for me. I particularly like PVPing solo or in small gangs rather than the large fleets. I'm no good at it yet, but maybe there's hope in time.
I'm interested to see how FW develops. As Caldari, I'm most curious to see how we will be able to successfully confront corps such as FOOM and Star Fraction, both of which have thrown their lot in with Gallente and enjoy huge advantages in PVP experience, tactics, team chemistry, FC leadership, ISK, etc. Whatever you might think about well known corps like these feasting on noobs like me rather than facing peer competition, the fact is this represents a real challenge for us. Whether the presence of "pro" corps lining up on one side could doom FW is yet to be seen, but its certainly a possibility and perhaps it is their intent. Surely for pro corps such as FOOM and SF, FW presents no special challenge and its hard for me to imagine that players such as Jade Constantine or Freidrich Psitalon would take pride in dominating new players, so forgive me for imagining that they might have grander, if darker, designs.
0.0. alliances should be pleased that many players are gaining basic PVP skills through FW. Some 0.0 players might put down the baubles that FW players earn, but I would suggest they can give a good indication to 0.0 corps looking to recruit from FW players which of those have been agressively pursuing their faction's goals.
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Frank Monkey
dearg doom
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Posted - 2008.08.15 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: Funkcikle
NEWSFLASH!
Not only is factional Warfare dying, everyone IN factional warfare is dying (GASP)
Yes, thats right, Our Department of Made up statistics estimates 100% of FW players have less than 70 or 80 years to live.
Moar news at 10
14% of people know that all statistics are crap and are made up by the same ballpoint pen, called Mr. Scribble.
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PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik
Gallente
aurorae pacificas
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Posted - 2008.08.16 13:30:00 -
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While FW has alot of holes that im hoping are either being worked on, noticed by, or at the very least registered by ccp I would hardly call it "a failure". Yes, there are alot of nubs out there fighting, but isnt that the point? Yes its an isk sink- but again I dont think thats necessarily bad. There are also some decent pvpers out there and I havn't had so much fun/ gf's in eve for years.
As for the outbreak pilot who joined for an hour or so and decided it was shite, I really hope that you were being sarcastic.
If anything the main problem and turn off for FW was player generated blobs that were unnecessary and ultimately damaging to morale in the fleets who consistently lost them, namely the Caldari militia. You cant blame ccp for that. Mechanics can be tweaked to better support smaller gangs, and perhaps a re-think of the number of plexes needed to flip a system etc but overall big thumbs up as far as im concerned.
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