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Oriahn
Minmatar Maximum Yarrage
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Posted - 2008.07.28 22:28:00 -
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The fastest cruiser invented to date, this vessel is ideal for hit-and-run ops where both speed and firepower are required. Its on-board power core may not be strong enough to handle some of the larger weapons out there, but when it comes to guerilla work, the Vagabond can't be beat.
What a description.......
Its a shame they will have to change it. With this new nano nerf coming up. The ship description will be HIGHLY inaccurate and a liar and I don't like liars! Now this would be my description when the new nerf comes out.
This use to be one of the fastest cruisers invented to date, this vessel is ideal for being laughed at because of its ridiculously, r3tardly low speed. Its on-board power core still can't support large guns but that doesn't matter because this ship will just get horribly owned as soon as it enters the battlefield, but when it comes to guerilla work its amazing, just kidding its horrible now. If you want the best has been thats been around, you won't be surprised by the Vagabonds shear lack of speed and ability to wtf pwn.
Do you agree with this description?
*Takes off sprinting because he hears trolls coming*
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Ruze
Amarr No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2008.07.28 22:29:00 -
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Originally by: Oriahn
*Takes off sprinting because he hears trolls coming*
Why would trolls be running from one another?
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Rhanna Khurin
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.07.28 22:30:00 -
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It still is the fastest cruiser, that hasn't changed.
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Karentaki
Gallente Maximum Yarrage
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Posted - 2008.07.28 22:32:00 -
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Edited by: Karentaki on 28/07/2008 22:40:06 Blatant troll...
I'm just happy they're boosting the Arazu
EDIT: Apparently this is now 'Unintentional Trolling' according to the OP ingame
However, now you are just reading my signature... Or are you...
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.28 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: Ruze
Originally by: Oriahn *Takes off sprinting because he hears trolls coming*
Why would trolls be running from one another?
Indeed, usually trolls congregate in threads like this. Hrm...
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Artemis Rose
Eleckrostatik
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Posted - 2008.07.28 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: Rhanna Khurin It still is the fastest cruiser, that hasn't changed.
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Halkin
Locus Solus
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Posted - 2008.07.28 23:29:00 -
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maximum yawnage
Originally by: Elise Randolph Everybody wins when trolls get trolled.
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Nexus Kinnon
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.07.28 23:49:00 -
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hey thanks for pointing out something that no one else has ever noticed, your contribution is valuable and has improved my forum experience
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.07.28 23:58:00 -
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Originally by: Rhanna Khurin It still is the fastest cruiser, that hasn't changed.
it can go about twice as fast as any cruiser.
but for some people it's means insta death if your not going 5 times faster than the target.
if you outrun frigates in your cruiser then the ship is slow.
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Lickin Lenny
Around the Rim
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Posted - 2008.07.29 00:02:00 -
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just throw a ****ing tracking disruptor on your nanoships, it's will be fine you etards.
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Buff Plankchest
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Posted - 2008.07.29 00:15:00 -
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Hey, I'm a nanonoob and I can't wait for the changes... this is gonna be fun
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Sweet Rosella
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Posted - 2008.07.29 00:18:00 -
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is so true is sad, in a pvp situation your guarantee to be doing less than 500ms, almost 0 dps to any missile boat that is with in touching range, your shields armor and structure will melt under kinetic missile fire, but look at the bright side you can fit a afterburner ROFL
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.07.29 00:24:00 -
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Edited by: Rawr Cristina on 29/07/2008 00:24:32 Because now it'l only go 5km/sec instead of 7km/sec. Oh noes!
And Vaga has the 2nd highest Powergrid out of all of the speedy HACs; easily fitting MWD and Dual Extenders without fitting mods. It'l still be the overall best HAC after this change IMO.
Originally by: Sweet Rosella is so true is sad, in a pvp situation your guarantee to be doing less than 500ms, almost 0 dps to any missile boat that is with in touching range, your shields armor and structure will melt under kinetic missile fire, but look at the bright side you can fit a afterburner ROFL
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Aria Seniste
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Posted - 2008.07.29 00:27:00 -
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The nano nerf was definately overdone. Missle and drone ships are shredding everything on the field now. Everything has slowed down.
My claw (which was the fastest inty, or rather second fastest, losing by 1 m/s to the crusader) is now going 4.5k/s... assault frigates can tear interceptors apart.
A small nerf is understandable. Intys were not broken. HACs may now be a bit too slow. It doesn't feel like a "balancing", it feels like the game has been smashed with a nerf hammer.
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Cailais
Amarr VITOC
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Posted - 2008.07.29 00:31:00 -
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The vagabond is still fast. It still rips up ships. Sure the game on SISI has slowed down, but thats mainly because there arent nano-hacs hurtling about at 5km/s being followed hopelessly by a trail of missiles and drones which cant scratch them.
Its actually quite a lot of fun.
C.
Originally by: Tarminic Your continued whining is somewhat diminished by your continued willingness to give your money to CCP.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.07.29 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: Aria Seniste The nano nerf was definately overdone. Missle and drone ships are shredding everything on the field now.
Erm, not really.
Vaga will still be able to outrun Heavy Missiles in a straight line, but may take slight damage when orbiting
the other HACs will take heavier damage and will have to eventually disengage to HML fire, but will only be getting shredded if being fired upon by 100 Caracals - in which case it's your own damn fault for staying in range too long. ...
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Chr0nosX
Ore Mongers Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.07.29 00:32:00 -
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Edited by: Chr0nosX on 29/07/2008 00:34:40
Originally by: Rawr Cristina Edited by: Rawr Cristina on 29/07/2008 00:24:32 Because now it'l only go 5km/sec instead of 7km/sec. Oh noes!
And Vaga has the 2nd highest Powergrid out of all of the speedy HACs; easily fitting MWD and Dual Extenders without fitting mods. It'l still be the overall best HAC after this change IMO.
Actually it goes about 3.2k with t2.
Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Erm, not really.
Vaga will still be able to outrun Heavy Missiles in a straight line, but may take slight damage when orbiting
the other HACs will take heavier damage and will have to eventually disengage to HML fire, but will only be getting shredded if being fired upon by 100 Caracals - in which case it's your own damn fault for staying in range too long.
The vaga will loose all its buffer in about 30 seconds to a drake with heavy missiles because a vaga can't perma-run an mwd so it will be going about 450m/s.
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Pantaloon McPants
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Posted - 2008.07.29 00:32:00 -
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vaga will still be fastest, it is not like they are nerfing just the freeking vaga. open your the eyeboalls! OPEN THEM! like this --> and see what dev has writed. OKAY GUY?
excuse my languisgae u no a speaka englaise to good
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GallenteCitizen20080615
Gallente Federation War News
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Posted - 2008.07.29 00:36:00 -
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OMG another whine
go and loose a freighter over it >_>
Originally by: CCP Wrangler We are pleased to aim!
Or was that the other way around?
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.07.29 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: Chr0nosX
Originally by: Rawr Cristina Edited by: Rawr Cristina on 29/07/2008 00:24:32 Because now it'l only go 5km/sec instead of 7km/sec. Oh noes!
And Vaga has the 2nd highest Powergrid out of all of the speedy HACs; easily fitting MWD and Dual Extenders without fitting mods. It'l still be the overall best HAC after this change IMO.
Actually it goes about 3.2k with t2.
Unrigged, maybe. You can get a Vaga to reach that speed ATM with just an MWD. ...
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Chr0nosX
Ore Mongers Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.07.29 00:50:00 -
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Edited by: Chr0nosX on 29/07/2008 00:51:25
Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Unrigged, maybe. You can get a Vaga to reach that speed ATM with just an MWD.
No that's with 2xOD 1xNano max you can reach without snakes, no gyros and max skills is about 3400.
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Becq Starforged
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
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Posted - 2008.07.29 01:06:00 -
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Originally by: Chr0nosX Edited by: Chr0nosX on 29/07/2008 00:51:25
Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Unrigged, maybe. You can get a Vaga to reach that speed ATM with just an MWD.
No that's with 2xOD 1xNano max you can reach without snakes, no gyros and max skills is about 3400.
He said 'unrigged', not 'unfit'. How fast will the Vaga go when rigged with the proper mix of modules and rigs (including aux thrusters, which might now outperform polys)?
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Chr0nosX
Ore Mongers Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.07.29 01:09:00 -
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Edited by: Chr0nosX on 29/07/2008 01:12:01
Originally by: Becq Starforged
No that's with 2xOD 1xNano max you can reach without snakes, no gyros and max skills is about 3400.
He said 'unrigged', not 'unfit'. How fast will the Vaga go when rigged with the proper mix of modules and rigs (including aux thrusters, which might now outperform polys)?
He said with just an mwd. About 3400 is max I think. I currently get just under 3.1k with 2 gyros and no speed rigs. Due to stacking nerf rigs are pretty useless anyway.
The best fit is: Vagabond: High: nothing Med: 10mn microwarpdrive Low: Overdrive Injector System II x2
Rigs: Auxilliary thrusters II x2
Implants. full snake set.
No special named modules etc.
Barely breaks 4k. Everybody has a snake set and t2 rigs duh.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.07.29 01:32:00 -
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Originally by: Chr0nosX Barely breaks 4k.
Sounds reasonable to me TBH. Problem is everyone has gotten so used to speeds of current nano that the concept of PvP without it evades them completely. ...
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Chr0nosX
Ore Mongers Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.07.29 01:43:00 -
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Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Originally by: Chr0nosX Barely breaks 4k.
Sounds reasonable to me TBH. Problem is everyone has gotten so used to speeds of current nano that the concept of PvP without it evades them completely.
That's with t2 rigs and a snake set - I recon only 2% of eve have one if that. I PvP in a battleship alot but roaming needs nanos - maybe slower than current but not the supposed changes slow.
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Oriahn
Minmatar Maximum Yarrage
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Posted - 2008.07.29 02:53:00 -
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Originally by: Rhanna Khurin It still is the fastest cruiser, that hasn't changed.
Not yet....................
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Oriahn
Minmatar Maximum Yarrage
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Posted - 2008.07.29 02:53:00 -
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Originally by: GallenteCitizen20080615 OMG another whine
go and loose a freighter over it >_>
I've already lost 10
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Admiral Pelleon
Caldari White Shadow Imperium Burning Horizons
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Posted - 2008.07.29 03:10:00 -
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Originally by: Chr0nosX Edited by: Chr0nosX on 29/07/2008 00:34:40
Originally by: Rawr Cristina Edited by: Rawr Cristina on 29/07/2008 00:24:32 Because now it'l only go 5km/sec instead of 7km/sec. Oh noes!
And Vaga has the 2nd highest Powergrid out of all of the speedy HACs; easily fitting MWD and Dual Extenders without fitting mods. It'l still be the overall best HAC after this change IMO.
Actually it goes about 3.2k with t2.
Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Erm, not really.
Vaga will still be able to outrun Heavy Missiles in a straight line, but may take slight damage when orbiting
the other HACs will take heavier damage and will have to eventually disengage to HML fire, but will only be getting shredded if being fired upon by 100 Caracals - in which case it's your own damn fault for staying in range too long.
The vaga will loose all its buffer in about 30 seconds to a drake with heavy missiles because a vaga can't perma-run an mwd so it will be going about 450m/s.
Explain to me how this is different. If you can't run your MWD forever you're going to die to the damn drake anyways aren't you? Or are you telling me your vaga can do enough DPS to kill the drake and have enough speed mods at the same time to outrun the fire while permarunning the MWD anyways? ________
Originally by: Tarminic I believe your mother should have re-rolled her birth control.
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